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Monday, September 13, 2004

Zogby Polls (ME & OR)

Posted by DavidNYC

I'm sorry that I don't have time for a longer post. Zogby has a new (telephone) poll out in Maine. Bush and Kerry are tied at 43% apiece. Larry Sabato (of whom I'm no fan) says that this is due to a convention bounce, but given that the poll was done on Sept. 9th, I'm wondering how much of an effect the convention still might have had. One detail for those of you obsessed with Maine's EV-splitting system: Northern ME appears to have substantially similar numbers to southern ME.

Also, I missed a Zogby Oregon poll from last week (also a traditional telephone survey). Kerry led Bush by a hefty 53-43. This poll was taken during the convention, so go figure.

Posted at 11:40 AM in Maine, Oregon | Technorati


Is anyone else excited about the Kitty Kelly book due out tomorrow? It details Bush's history with cocaine abuse, among other shady incidences.. I am certainly not happy to have someone's personal troubles highlighted in the press but there is no question that the Republicans would do this to Kerry. The book could be disgregarded as filth or it could put Bush on the defensive in a very destructive way.

Posted by: Peter at September 13, 2004 12:39 PM | Permalink | Edit Comment | Delete Comment

People won't believe it. Bush is god in many conservative Americans minds. They'll just write it off as liberal rubbish. From what I've heard from people living in Texas, there's a lot of truth to the rumors that Bush was a coke user when in college and other shenanigans. But, people won't believe it or won't care. I still can't believe that the media let Bush off so easy in 2000 over his past behavior. Bush played them like a fiddle and said he wouldn't discuss such issues.

Posted by: Rock_nj at September 13, 2004 01:27 PM | Permalink | Edit Comment | Delete Comment

I just hope Kitty Kelly has used primary source documents and highly reliable people to back up her claims. 60 Minutes/CBS News did not do Kerry any favors regarding Bush's Nat'l. Guard service in AL. As Rock says, no one will believe it if it's just a "she said, he said" kind of expose, with no possibility of backing up the allegations, true or not.

Posted by: Pepe at September 13, 2004 06:40 PM | Permalink | Edit Comment | Delete Comment

The book is worthless, give it up. Bush isn't going to win OR either, and I doubt seriously if he will get even a single electoral vote from ME. Kerry's poll numbers will be underestimated through the final weekend of the election, and then the late deciders will break heavily his way.

To be honest folks, I just don't believe these polls. Call it Bush logic if you want, where I throw out the data when it conflicts with my intuition. My political intuition tells me that OR, PA, and MI are not close, they are strong Kerry. Why? Because Bush has certainly alienated former Gore voters, and hasn't really done much to retain waffling Bush voters from 2000, particularly in these states. And Gore voters/leaners who didn't show up last time, will definately show up this time. I don't believe a single "Likely Voter" survey. Period. I'm not convinced that LA is a swing state either. Bush did well with the "Bubba" voters before, and I think they will like him even better this time in the parishes. OH will be close, but the state has an inherant GOP tilt. The five Ohio's article is cute, and has some truth to it, but does not really capture how difficult the state really is.

Posted by: Mark Olsen at September 13, 2004 07:56 PM | Permalink | Edit Comment | Delete Comment

Not worried about Maine. 10% undecides will break 70/30 Kerry. Nor about Pennsylvania, nor anywhere Kerry has even the slightest lead. But the states where Bush went up with the Convention bounce are the ones that need triage. One is Minnesota, one is Iowa.

The inclusion of Nader on the Florida ballot despite the wishes of a state judge is something that might backfire with voters. It must look devious to an undecided.

The winner of this election still I think will be the candidate who makes the next to last mistake.

Posted by: joseph at September 13, 2004 08:25 PM | Permalink | Edit Comment | Delete Comment

Mrs. Heinz-Kerry and her connection to The Tides Foundation is not ���new��� news. The Tides Foundation���s connection to moveon.org isn���t breaking news, either. Nor is moveon.org���s connection to Texans for Truth. What is lesser known is the Communist Party���s willingness to back Kerry in this election. They���ve encouraged their members to vote for him instead of their own candidate. Their sole reason? Getting rid of President Bush. The W.W.W.P. (The Socialist Party) openly brags of infiltrating the unions. They brag about having Party members placed in positions to negotiate contracts for union memberships. Many of the people who give money to these organizations and political parties are common to all of them as financial endorsers - except for The Tides Foundation. They���ve created a loophole. It���s called the Tides Center. Many of these individuals and organizations also finance International A.N.S.W.E.R., Greenpeace, and other such political activism. CBS has some members of the Communist Party employed in rather high places as well. A comparative analysis between ���The Communist Manifesto��� and the current mission statements of several known groups and political parties is also in order. Pop Quiz: Guess whose philanthropic trust is financing, in part or in whole, all of these rabidly anti-American groups, lobbyists, PAC���s, and parties? Hint: The AFL-CIO is technically not a trust.

You don���t have to believe me. Do your own research.

Warren "Bones" Bonesteel
Sgt USMC 1976-1983
Author and E-zine columnist
"Morning Coffee"
P. O. Box 1413
Rapid City,SD 57709
(605) 388-3005


A CBS connection:


"And he said, "We established to our satisfaction, which is a high standard, that the memos are accurate or we wouldn't have put them on television." The memos are forgeries! Everybody knows this now and we now know where they came from, they came from -- get this -- a Kinko's! A Kinko's copy center in Abilene, Texas. Now, Abilene, let me tell you where all roads lead in this story. All roads lead to the Travis County Democratic Party. That's where all roads lead. This guy Bill Burkett or Burk-ett is how he pronounces his name. He's got ties to people, his lawyer, big Democrat in Texas, got his bio. Then this guy, the other guest that this on this show -- what was the other guest's name? Both these guys hate Bush. I can't remember his name. Ben Barnes. Yeah, Ben Barnes. Ben Barnes, Travis County. It was Rather who went to Travis County to do a fund-raiser at the request of his daughter Robin who's a big muckety-muck Democrat in Travis County.

So all roads here lead to the... Texas, Democratic Party, ladies and gentlemen. So can you imagine CBS accepting documents faxed from a Kinko's in Abilene, Texas, as their source? Now, you know what it appears be to me? When you have Hayward's statement here saying, "Well, the memos are right; they may be wrong, but they're right," what we have here is a classic liberal behavioral pattern. Mr. Snerdley and I were talking about it this morning. Remember, it was okay to lie; it was okay to lie to a federal judge; it was okay to commit perjury, as long as it was "about sex." The liberal view of lies is: "If they are for the common good or the better good, then by all means lie," and by "common good" I mean in their agenda. So in that era, protecting Bill Clinton was the good, Bill Clinton was the overriding objective, so if you have to lie to do that, lying is good. Well, in this case the agenda is get Bush. So if you've got some people out there who are claiming to have seen things and claiming to know things about Bush's service, and you need a paper trail for it, "Okay, let's go ahead and make it up, because it's for the better good, getting rid of Bush. If these people say it, but they can't prove it, let's give them some backup." "















find out who is connected with who...











...and follow the money:



Pay particular attention to moveon.org...and its connections...

Much of the money is coming from out of the country. Follow it, if you dare.

I do recommend that one does one's own research into these matters.



* Harold Ickes Is A Member Of DNC's Executive Committee And Head Of The
Media Fund And Chief Of Staff To America Coming Together. Ickes "Admits That
He Occasionally Tells The Kerry Camp What He's Up To, And He Insists It's
Perfectly Legal."
(Jim Drinkard, "'Outside' Political Groups Full Of Party Insiders," USA
Today, 6/28/04; Paula Dwyer, "Why 527 Is The Dems' Lucky Number,"
BusinessWeek Online, 7/28/04)

* Bob Bauer Of Perkins Coie Is Legal Counsel To Both Kerry Campaign And
America Coming Together (ACT).
(Jim Rutenberg And Kate Zernike, "Veteran's Group Had GOP Lawyer," The New
York Times, 8/25/04)

* Kerry Campaign Paid Bauer's Law Firm, Perkins Coie, $360,244.28 For Legal
Services And Other Expenses.
(Federal Election Commission Records, http://www.fec.gov, Accessed 8/5/04)

* Joe Sandler Is General Counsel To DNC While Serving As Legal Counsel To
527s MoveOn.org And Moving America Forward.
(Jonathan Groner, "Power Punch," Legal Times, 4/26/04)

* Erik Smith Is The Media Fund's Executive Director And Worked With Steve
Elmendorf, Kerry's Deputy Campaign Manager, On Dick Gephardt's Presidential
(Jim VandeHei, "Kerry Expected To Emerge From Battle Stronger Than Ever,"
The Washington Post, 3/3/04)

* Minyon Moore, A Kerry Campaign Consultant, Serves On Executive Committee
Of America Coming Together.
(Glen Johnson, "Kerry To Press 'Environmental Justice,'" The Boston Globe,
4/22/03; Lisa Getter, "Kerry Aided By 'Illegal' Soft Money, GOP Claims," Los
Angeles Times, 4/1/04)

* Media Fund Ad Consultant Bill Knapp Hired By Kerry Campaign.
(Thomas B. Edsall, "Shifting The Money So The Votes Will Follow," The
Washington Post, 5/11/04)

* Kerry's New Mexico Caucus Director, Geri Prado, Is Leading ACT's GOTV
Effort In That State.
(Michael Finnegan, "Kerry's Low Profile May Cost Crucial Latino Votes," Los
Angeles Times, 5/3/04)

* The Dewey Square Group Provides Political Consulting Services For Both
Kerry Campaign And America Coming Together (ACT).

* Kerry Campaign Has Paid Dewey Square Group $194,936.48 For Political
Consulting And Other Expenses.
(Federal Election Commission Records, www.fec.gov, Accessed 8/5/04)

* America Coming Together (ACT) Has Paid Dewey Square Group $51,808 For
Political Consulting And Other Expenses.
(Political Money Line Website, www.tray.com, Accessed 8/5/04)

* At Least Four Kerry Advisors Are Associated With Dewey Square Group:
Michael Whouley, Jill Alper, Minyon Moore And Joe Ricca.
(Glen Johnson, "Kerry To Press 'Environmental Justice,'" The Boston Globe,
4/22/03; Dewey Square Group Website, http://www.deweysquare.com/, Accessed
2/5/04; Peter Grier, "How Kerry Turned The Corner," Christian Science
Monitor, 2/5/04; Glen Johnson and John Aloysius Farrell, "Kerry's New-Look
Campaign Relies On A Few Key Players," The Boston Globe, 1/9/03)

* Michael Meehan, Now A Communications Advisor To Kerry, Was Hired By NARAL
In 2003 To "Oversee Its Vastly Expanded Soft-Money Operation." His Hiring
Was "Billed As A Two-Month Leave From His Job As Political Director Of
(Carol Beggy and Mark Shanahan, "Names," The Boston Globe, 11/21/03; Chris
Cillizza, "NARAL Plans Big '04 Effort," Roll Call, 5/8/03)

http://www.democrats.org/wvc/weekinreview/200305120002.html Open admission
to affiliation with moveon.org.
















SOROS LINK! http://thecollege.wlu.edu/grants/soros.asp

"Grants and Fellowships
Soros FellowshipThe Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans
provides opportunities for continuing generations of able and accomplished
New Americans to achieve leadership in their chosen fields. All applicants
must be either resident aliens (e.g. hold a Green Card), naturalized U.S.
citizens, or children of two parents who are both naturalized citizens.

The Soros Foundation annually awards thirty scholarships of $20,000, plus
half of the tuition owed to the graduate school program of the applicant's
choice, for a period of two years. A Fellow may pursue a graduate degree in
any professional field (e.g., engineering, medicine, law, social work, etc.)
or scholarly discipline in the Arts, Humanities, Social Sciences, and
Sciences. The Fine and Performing Arts are included.

Applications are due from seniors in early November, and candidates should
expect to participate in an interview as the vetting process transpires."

Liaison Officer: Professor Robert Strong (Politics) or Associate Dean Bent



"Lobbying may now be considered a Daschle family profession. The Senator and
Mrs. Daschle's son Nathan was a lobbyist for the American Federation of
State, County and Municipal Employees before taking a position at the
Washington lobbying firm of Covington and Burling. Covington and Burling
represents Microsoft, Merck, and the Washington Post among others.
The Daschles' daughter-in-law, Jill Gimmel Daschle, has started her own
lobbying firm, JD Consulting, which will lobby with Sullivan & Baldick. Jill
was a finance director for the 2000 re-election campaign of Sen. Ted Kennedy
(D-MA). She moved on to New Hampshire Gov. Jeanne Shaheen's 2002 senate
campaign as a fundraiser."









I put this next one in here because I thought it was interesting.


> http://uslaboragainstwar.org/links.html
> http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/5637/1/143/
> http://www.publicintegrity.org/527/search.aspx?act=com&orgid=648
> http://www.publicintegrity.org/527/docs/460450996-8872-0012.pdf
> http://dbease.argusleader.com/dbEase/cgi-bin/go_get.pl
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0201.mencimer.html

evidence of duplicity.












This one is more about Bush than kerry, but answers questions concerning the President's NG service.






You just gotta like folks from Iowa...


"Kerry's VVAW was far more radical than just visiting the Paris Peace Talks and meeting with Communist Agents of North Vietnam, consider the following:

From the FBI files it can be proved that leaders of the VVAW;

1. Met with Soviet KGB agents in DC.
2. Coorodinated antiwar efforts (protests) with the NV Communists to coincide with attacks on US troops by the NV Army in an effort to get Nixon to stop bombing NV troops during the attack on our troops.
3. Collected information from Vietnam vets concerning tactics and weapons and passed the information on to the Soviets and NV Communists.
4. Had a plan and was training members as a hit squad to assassinate up to 20 of our government leaders.
5. Developing plans that involved kidnapping elected officials and holding them until the US pulled troops out of Vietnam. Some members were arested for this plot.
6. Two members arrested while enroute to a VP Agnew speech with a "bomb" in their car.
7. VVAW was funded by the Communist Party USA, and a Communist Party of a country in Europe.
8. Members and leaders were running weapons to a black militant group in Cairo Il, and later this resulted in members of the group shooting a police officer."

. So, John Kerry worked for Communist Organizations attempting to overthrow the Government of the United States of America.

FBI Documents indicate that while John Kerry was with the VVAW, VVAW leaders met with KGB agents in the US. ���VVAW collusion with foreign spies? ���The Diplomatic List published by U.S. Department of State, in 1971 listed Grigoriy Sergeyvich Milhaylovskiy as an assistant Military Attache, Embassy of the U.S.S.R., Washington, D.C.���

Highlights of the FBI files and John Kerry, section 7 (October 1971)

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, John Kerry, FBI files Section 8 (Oct-Nov 1971)

Do the FBI Files concerning the VVAW (Kerry���s antiwar group) indicate a plot to assassinate Pres. Nixon?

Here is what I have found in the FBI files re: VVAW and John Kerry

John Kerry caused a fracture in VVAW for his own selfish goals (FBI Files reveal)

Kerry, Watergate: DNC Links Caused Break-in? (Kerry lied! Still with the VVAW after February 1972)

Lets watch the film of John Kerry and VVAW members throwing combat medals over the fence

Treat as Yellow ��� John Kerry���s VVAW coordinating with the North Vietnam Communist Government when US forces are under attack

VVAW leader meets with Communists to discuss tactics in the US antiwar movement. Kerry���s group!

Vietnam Veterans Against the War, John Kerry, FBI files Section 8 (Oct-Nov 1971)


From: "Stan Merriman" Date: Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:11 pm Subject: Bill Burkett and David Van Os vs. Karl Rove
Fellow Progressive Populist Caucus Members:
Our brother, Bill Burkett is under siege by the Carl Rove smear machine. Bill is a charter member of the PPC and our friend. Co-founder of the PPC with me,
David Van Os assures me that as Bill's legal Counsel on a longstanding basis, any assertions that Bill has engaged in "forgery" vis a vis the now infamous documentation of the Bush desertion of duty as a Texas National Guardsman is total smear with the footprints of the Karl Rove modus operandi all over it. Representing the PPC, I stand with both our brothers Burkett and Van Os and applaud their guts to stand up to the right wing slander machine; President Kerry and many of our DNC brethren can take a lesson from our two populist fellow-Texans who have the cajones to look contemptuously in the eye these ruthless cowards bringing down our formerly proud democracy and tell them to go to h*ll.
Stan Merriman Chair, Progressive Populist Caucus of the Texas Democratic Party.

"The Progressive Populist Caucus, in their own words, is "the democratic wing of the Democratic Party in Texas". Their Steering Committee is comprised of a stellar group of Texas Democrats: OFFICERS
Chair: Stan Merriman, Harris County Secretary: Kathy Curley, Dallas County Treasurer: Armando C. Cadena, Bexar County Sgt. at Arms: Anna V. Casey, Collin County Membership: John Curley, Dallas County Strategy Chair: Melissa McIntosh, Dallas County Convention Strategy Chair: John Behrman, Harris County Parlimentarian: David Van Os, Bexar County
Vice Chairs:
San Antonio/South: Ann Marie Schroeder, Bexar County Austin/Central: Bruce W. Barrick, Travis County Houston/SouthEast: Julie Jackson Lusby, Harris County DFW/North: Bill Howell, Dallas County West: Wild Horse, El Paso"












Following in Canada���s Footsteps

One month ago, Canada approved similar legislation, which was aimed at preventing all language that could lead to the ���incitement of hatred��� toward homosexuals. The bill was dubbed the ���Bible as Hate Speech��� bill by pro-family advocates, who warned that such legislation could criminalize portions of the Bible that denounce homosexuality.

Already, in a disturbing example of the implications of this bill, one Canadian court has upheld a fine against a Saskatchewan newspaper publisher for running an advertisement that listed the various Bible verses dealing with homosexuality.

In Sweden, a pastor was arrested at his church after he began reading Bible verses about homosexuality.

In Britain, an Anglican bishop was placed under criminal investigation for suggesting that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation.

Recently in Tennessee -- even without this law in effect -- two men were arrested for carrying large wooden crosses during a "Gay Day" Parade. The men were charged with "disorderly conduct" and "interfering with a special event."

Bob Knight, director of the Culture and Family Institute, believes that if this legislation is passed, it will undoubtedly be used to ���muzzle public discussion of homosexuality and even someday silence pastors.���


Warren "Bones" Bonesteel
Sgt USMC 1976-1983
Author and E-zine columnist
"Morning Coffee"
P. O. Box 1413
Rapid City,SD 57709
(605) 388-3005


"The virtues of men are of more consequence to society
than their abilities, and for this reason, the heart
should be cultivated with more assiduity than
the head." -Noah Webster
Use fer tellin' 'em about politics, press releases, local news...

















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Keep it quite, keep it clean, and don't get anyone killed!

Well...you could tell 'em about my book, too, if'n ya wanted, but the media's been havin' things their own way too much recent like, and it's about time we told 'em what we think...






Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at September 25, 2004 10:49 AM | Permalink | Edit Comment | Delete Comment