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SSP Daily Digest: 10/8 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Fri Oct 08, 2010 at 6:19 PM EDT


AK-Sen: Joe Miller finally got around to belatedly filing his financial disclosures, maybe feeling he had something to hide. He really shouldn't, because he's just like the rest of us: he's carrying a lot of credit card debt. He owes between $35K and $80K on three separate charge accounts, and also owes himself $103K for a campaign loan.  That, my friends, is fiscal conservatism you can believe in. (His biggest asset seems to be undeveloped farmland worth at least $250K, apparently the same Delta Jct. land for which he was receiving farm subsidies.)

FL-Sen: Here's a freaky rumor (and I think it's nothing more than that, as everything seems to be business as usual with the Kendrick Meek camp today, at least on the surface). The Wall St. Journal alludes to increased chatter that a Meek/Charlie Crist deal might be in the works for Meek to drop out of the race and clear the way for Crist to take all the left-of-center votes.

IL-Sen, IL-Gov: The DGA is out with an internal poll of Illinois, via Global Strategy Group. The poll, though, has better news on the Senate front than the gubernatorial battle. Alexi Giannoulias leads Mark Kirk by 3: 40-37, with 3 each to the Green and Libertarian candidates. On the other hand, Pat Quinn, who's popped up in the lead in a couple polls lately, trails Bill Brady by 1, at 36-35, with 4 for Green Rich Whitney, 2 for Lex Green, and 6 for Scott Lee Cohen. Just the fact that Quinn seems to be climbing back into the thick of things at this late date seems to be newsworthy in itself, though.

MO-Sen: As is often the case with these advancing-in-a-different-direction stories, there have been some mixed signals about whether the DSCC is packing up in Missouri. Hotline is observing that this seems to be at least partially the case: they've canceled buys from Oct. 11 to Oct. 25, although the buy still seems intact for the last week before the election. They've spent $1.8 million in Missouri so far, but probably will be looking to spend that money on defense in West Virginia, or maybe even Washington, which seems to be slowly edging back onto the map.

NV-Sen: We might expect a steady stream of endorsements on a regular basis from now until the election for Harry Reid from not-insane Republicans. Two were just unveiled in the last few days. One is from Bill Raggio, the former Republican leader in the state Senate (and a legislator since 1972), who has particular reason to dislike Sharron Angle, as she tried to primary him out of his Reno-area seat in 2008. The other is Dema Guinn, the widow of the recently deceased ex-Gov. Kenny Guinn, who also says that her former husband would have backed Reid in this case too.

NY-Sen-B, NY-Gov: Quinnipiac (10/1-5, likely voters, 9/16-20 in parens):

Kirsten Gillibrand (D-inc): 55 (48)
Joe DioGuardi (R): 34 (42)
Undecided: 11 (9)
(MoE: ±2.9%)

SurveyUSA (10/5-7, likely voters, 9/20-21 in parens):

Kirsten Gillibrand (D-inc): 54 (45)
Joe DioGuardi (R): 35 (44)
Other: 8 (8)
Undecided: 3 (4)

Andrew Cuomo (D): 57 (49)
Carl Paladino (R): 34 (40)
Other: 5 (8)
Undecided: 3 (3)
(MoE: ±4%)

I think we can conclude that both those previous Quinnipiac and SurveyUSA polls -- the two ones that came out simultaneously and had the big New York races in single digits, spurring a wave of panic -- were some combination of a perfect wave of primary bounce and big honkin' outlier. These races have resumed looking pretty much the way they have all cycle except for those two blips.

We also have NY-Sen-A numbers (60-30 for Chuck Schumer over Jay Townsend in SurveyUSA, and 63-32 in Quinnipiac), and NY-AG numbers (Eric Schneiderman leads Dan Donovan 46-40 in SurveyUSA, and 43-32 in Quinnipiac). Quinnipiac also has Thomas DiNapoli leading Harry Wilson 49-31 in the Comptroller race.

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Is half this post missing or is it just  a really short post?

Glad to see NY SEN, SEN and GOV seem safe, I'm hoping it will be enough to pull Bishop across the finish line.

29/D/Male/NY-01


I didn't
have time for the usual-sized digest today, so I just threw up some of the most important stuff.

[ Parent ]
FL-Sen Meek
I don't get why Meek would drop out.
Yes, strategically it's better for us for a Crist win over Rubio since there's the likelihood (though not certainty) he'd caucus with us. But Meek telling his supports to go with Crist might also probably move any moderate Repubs out of Crist's column. So no guarantee that ultimately Rubio still wouldn't win.

Also what's in it for Meek? A job offer from the WH? Doubtful since he was a huge Hilary supporter (though Obama may let bygones be bygones, especially if it means a Rubio defeat).
Meek will probably go down fighting and lose honorably. FL does get 1 or 2 extra House seats next year. He might go for getting back into the House.  


Meek
Meek isn't going to drop out.  The Dem party in FL doesn't want him to; it probably wouldn't mean a Crist win and it could cost them some house seats and the governorship.  I also don't see him getting back into the house.  I don't see any way that one of the new seats would be in an area that he could win.

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22

[ Parent ]
Agree
Alex Sink and Alan Boyd would have a shitfit were Meek to drop out.

[ Parent ]
good point about the Gov. & other downballot races.
So the Meek rumor is really probably just a Repub disinformation effort (considering the right-wing WSJ source) attempting to hurt us there.

[ Parent ]
Growth in South Florida is pretty good
But not in the AA sections of Miami, so it looks like there will be only 2 black-majority seats in the area after the census (Hastings and Wilson.) If the area gets a new district, it will probably be outside of Miami and even if it's D-leaning it probably won't be as favorable to Meek as his current seat.

I've tinkered with Florida in the DRA a few times and usually get one new district in Orlando and another south of I-4 (essentially splitting the current FL-16 into an eastern half represented by Rooney and a western and central FL-27.)

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
I'll be awfully surprised if Meek bolts
The Dem bigwigs would have to prove Crist is a guaranteed winner vs. Rubio, and that just isn't the case - a Crist/Rubio showdown would be a bonifide toss-up, and, at this point, it looks like Meek might well finish second in a three-way match-up. If he managed that, he could probably run for something else in the future.

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[ Parent ]
How?
"at this point, it looks like Meek might well finish second in a three-way match-up"

How do you figure that? Meek's had trouble hitting 20% in most polls. There have been a few close ones for second, but for the most part he's sitting far back in third.

I don't see him dropping out. By now it won't really change anything. His left leaning base might move to Crist, but at the same time Crist would probably lose the moderate Democrats/Republicans and Conservative Democrats.

Meek can talk about being the "real Democrat" all he wants, but he should of stepped down in the Primary.

Maybe he'll decide to run against Rubio in 6 years.


[ Parent ]
I've now come around to the idea
that neither should drop out, even though I think Rubio will win. They should fight until the bitter end, and get every possible Democrat and left to moderate independent (or left-leaning Republican) to the polls. And they should turn their fire on Rubio, and Rubio alone, dredging out whatever dirt they have on him.

Doing so will help Sink over the finish line, and probably carry 1-2 of our endangered House members to victory.

So: Go Meek!

Wait, I mean: Go Crist! ;-)


[ Parent ]
For Crist
To come in second, he'd have to hold a high single digit edge because of two factors that does not go into polls: the lack of a party structure for a proven and tested GOTV effort and Crist's ballot placement (9/10) that will cost him a few points. I think his Dem support will tank in the coming weeks.  

[ Parent ]
I think one big difference in NY
is that Schumer, Cuomo, and Gilibrand have gotten on TV in a big way, against no opposition.

The SUSA regional crosstabs are interesting: Gilibrand is losing the NYC suburbs, but cleaning up in upstate and WNY. Schniederman leads only in NYC, so hopefully the various Dem campaigns will do a real GOTV drive there.

But there's no question that the region with highest variability is WNY. It makes me worry a lot about Maffei, Higgins, and even Slaughter (who has a very safe district, but. . .)


You're right about Schneiderman
The only way he prevails is by running up a massive margin in NYC. He's gonna lose big time everywhere else, though Gillibrand might be able to drag him to victory in the Capital Region. Donovan has plenty of material to attack him with - not to mention the backing of Ed Koch and Mike Bloomberg - and more than enough financial resources to keep up. This is definitely the GOP's best shot at grabbing a statewide race, though, to be fair, my voter model still shows Schneiderman up high single-digits.

Oh, and to touch upon Survey USA's cross-tabs for a moment (in all fairness, of course, SUSA's internals are always very quirky) - there's not a shot in hell there's that many voters in Western NY voting for a Paladino/Gillibrand ticket. I mean, really? I don't doubt she's up double-digits, but her lead ain't stemmed from that region - she's probably up 2-to-1 in the Capital District and up 3-to-1 in NYC, but Paladinoland doesn't strike me as prime territory at all.

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[ Parent ]
Iowa early voting numbers
Was looking at the Iowa absentee ballot requests.  As of today, Dems have a 13.5% advantage over Reps in ballot requests.  This compares to a 20% advantage at a similar time away from the election in 2008.  The 2008 number is from 5 days closer to the election, though, and the Dem/Rep gap seems to be shrinking as the election nears.

Not sure if you can extrapolate too much from them or not, though it seems you can get some information about general enthusiasm in each camp.  So would a 6.5% drop in Dem enthusiasm advantage translate to a good or bad outcome for dems?  At the least, it seems like if the proportion held out that Boswell could survive in IA-03.


But
Two days ago Dems had a 20% advantage in ballot requests, though, so the gap is closing very quickly.  A bit troubling.

[ Parent ]
More fun with numbers
In IA-03 in Polk county in 2006, Dems made up 56% of absentee/early ballots.  In that election, Boswell got 52% of the vote in the district.  This year in Polk county, Dems make up 55% of ballot requests so far.  If the trendline toward the election is Republicans outpacing in early voting as they currently are, I'd say that's not a good number.

Even worse number... Johnson County (location of Iowa City) in IA-02 has really great statistics for comparing 2010 to 2006.  In 2006, at the same number of days away from the election as now, the ballot requests were 69% Dem, 13% Rep, and 17% Ind.  In this cycle, as of today, the ballot requests are 57% Dem, 21% Rep, and 22% Ind.

That's Dems down 12%, and Rep up 8% in ballot requests in comparative points between the two midterm elections.  Dems had a 56% advantage at this point in 2006, but only a 36% advantage this cycle.  And this is in a county where youth participation (and therefore Dem performance) was expected to be relatively high due to a referendum on making bars 21+ only after 10 p.m.

Early voting can be difficult to use as an indicator of what overall turnout will be like, but those Johnson County numbers seem awful.


[ Parent ]
The Democrats have a different strategy
this election for Iowa absentee votes. They are trying to get infrequent voters to do absentee voting this year. Hopefully, it is working. The in-person early voting seems to be breaking records in Johnson County, so that is good news as that is Dem territory.

[ Parent ]
Great...
So rmpatrick's numbers may significantly understate our advantage in early + absentee voting.

[ Parent ]
Not great...
Ballot request numbers include both absentee mail AND in-person/satellite voting.  If you early vote in person, you essentially request an absentee ballot and then cast it immediately.  The numbers above do not understate the situation, overall our early voting + absentee voting advantage in the county is 20% lower than this point in 2006.  In spite of the record early vote turnout in Johnson County, as a proportion of total voters Dems are still way down from 2006.  Enough so that I'm starting to think the predictions that we're going to get hosed this election are more accurate than I had hoped.

[ Parent ]
I don't know jack about Iowa, but ...
you seem to be missing the point. What was said is that Iowa Dems are pushing infrequent absentees this year, as opposed to partisan base Dems (who would vote anyway, so it's kind of useless). That's the more useful strategy. Whether it works or not we'll know on E-day, as we'd expect partisan Dems to show up in larger numbers then, since they haven't voted early.

[ Parent ]
Scoreboard

Senate - Republicans +10

Republican pickups: AR, CO, IL, IN, ND, NV, PA, WA, WI, WV

House - Republicans +42

Republican pickups (47): AR-01, AR-02, AZ-01, AZ-05, CO-04, FL-02, FL-08, FL-22, FL-24, GA-08, IL-11, IL-14, IN-08, KS-03, LA-03, MD-01, MI-01, MI-07, MS-01, NC-07, NC-08, ND-AL, NH-01, NH-02, NM-02, NV-03, NY-19, NY-23, NY-29, OH-01, OH-15, OH-16, PA-03, PA-07, PA-08, PA-11, SD-AL, TN-06, TN-08, TX-17, TX-23, VA-02, VA-05, VA-11, WA-03, WI-07, WI-08

Democratic pickups (5): DE-AL, FL-25, HI-01, IL-10, LA-02

Governors - Republicans +6

Republican pickups (13): IA, IL, KS, ME, MI, NM, OH, OR, OK, PA, TN, WI, WY

Democratic pickups (7): CA, CT, FL, HI, MN, RI, VT

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


Sorry, but I have to disagree...
With some of these.

Y'all know why I disagree with NV-Sen and NV-03, so I'll move on to the rest.

Bennet's internals have him up slightly in CO-Sen, but PPP is backing them up and the CO GOP is a hot mess almost as ugly as the NV GOP (another reason not to bet so much on Angle just yet).

Recent polling has also shown Giannoulias either tied or slightly ahead in IL-Sen, and the Chicago Dem machine is probably still strong enough to overcome whatever weaknesses he has downstate. (Also why I'm not writing off IL-14.)

And SUSA's polls are simply screwy, so I'm definitely not writing off Murray in WA-Sen just because they and Razzy say something that other polls aren't showing. And Rossi has a track record of coming close, but missing the cigar. (Also not writing off WA-03 just yet.)

And while I'm still jittery about WV-Sen and PA-Sen, I'm not writing off either just yet. PA-Sen leans R at worst, and WV-Sen may turn yet again with all the Raese crap coming out.

 

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


[ Parent ]
Murray has only been down
according to one "independent" pollster: Rasmussen.

[ Parent ]
I am pretty much taking the most recent public polls,
including Ras and Survey USA, at face value here.  I'm a strong believer in the predictive value of public polling averages.

And I'm not writing anybody off.  This is just a snapshot.  It could all change tomorrow.

Dems are behind in polling averages in NV, CO, and IL.  No amount of Jon Ralston tweets is going to convince me otherwise.

Patty Murray is behind in the last two Rasmussen polls, is behind 6 in that Fabrizio, McLaughlin poll, and lost 8 points to end up +1 in the latest CNN poll.  Plus we haven't seen any internals from her recently in spite of mounting evidence that she is slipping.

It would take a historic comeback against a clear national wave to win in PA.

WV is a wait and see because of the "hicky" ad and the residence issue for Raese.  We haven't seen how big a deal those things will be.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


[ Parent ]
In general, I believe in polling averages too
but the open question is whether there's something new this cycle. Two premises:

1) There are two different basic assumptions on turnout -- the Rasmussen model and everyone else. Sure, there's been some convergence in numbers as we come closer to the election, but that's natural based on the (presumed) very tight Rasmussen voter screen.

Normally in statistics, the truth is somewhere in-between. But when the model is faulty -- either Rasmussen or everyone else, is it statistically legitimate to drop one or the other?

2) There's a lot of "internals" out there. Are they equally biased towards one side or another? Are the outliers equally nutty, based on "push poll" type questions?

If I'm hearing the mean opinion here correctly, Rasmussen should be dropped, and R internals are significantly more biased on average than D internals.

The unknown is whether that's objective, or whether that's a function of the blue tint in our collective glasses.


[ Parent ]
I don't really agree
that Rasmussen is an extreme in the polling world.  He just used a likely voter model long before anyone else, and his numbers were different when he was using LV's and everyone else was using RV's.  He developed a reputation for being an outlier.  Once others started using LV's too, Rasmussen's results fell right in the mainstream.

If anything, the wackiest results have been Quinnipiac and Survey USA.  Mason-Dixon and Reuters have been pretty close to Rasmussen.  Even CNN and PPP have not been far off of Rasmussen.  It is silly to "drop" Rasmussen.

Partisan polls I do take with a grain of salt on a case-by-case basis.  I tend to believe NRCC and DCCC polls more than leaked internals, and leaked internals more than interest group polling.  

It's funny how the conventional wisdom always seem to find its way to being "this year is different."  To me, 2008 was different from anything we've seen for a long time, with a momentous Democratic primary, soaring Democratic enthusiasm, and so many first time voters.  Yet the pollsters on average nailed it in most states.  My guess based on experience is that the polling averages will be pretty close to the mark this time too.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


[ Parent ]
Yup
I'm past the happy talk: this is clearly and unavoidably going to be a brutal election. 2006 in reverse--if not worse.  

[ Parent ]
Yep
In 2004, all I heard was that cell phone users were not being polled, so Kerry would go in flying.

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22

[ Parent ]
Well cell phone use is a much different beast in 2010 than it was in 2004
And as always popularly mentioned, SUSA numbers for MN in 2008, what a fucking disaster for them.  I agree with your overall point, but that point may be a lot weaker for 2010 than it was for 2004.

[ Parent ]
I dont know if he's extreme
but he's had a very clear agenda and has done as much as he can to help shape the narrative that he has wanted to create from the get go.  While his numbers aren't always necessarily crap, the fact they are coming from him is what makes them unreliable to a permanent degree.

[ Parent ]
And I don't...
One thing no one can say about Ralston is that he's a shill. If he says the public polls are wrong, then the public polls are likely wrong. (He's not the only one talking up the private polls, and I just can't look the other way when CNN projects plurality Independent turnout and NO ONE YOUNGER THAN 35 turning out, while Razzy projects no one will vote None of the Above.)

And yes, my experience with flawed public polling here is making me wonder if they're also getting it wrong elsewhere. When even national pundits are calling into question the quality of Ken Buck's campaign and the overall sanity of the CO GOP, I must wonder if all these public polls showing Buck ahead are correct. And CNN has already produced some wacky results here, so it's not out of the question that their Washington results may be out of whack as well. (So what were the internals there?)

I'm not usually one to go all out hating on Razzy, but when they leave a very significant ballot choice off their poll, I must wonder what they're up to.

Many of the public polls missed Obama's margin in a number of states (including here in Nevada), and missed Obama winning states like Indiana altogether, and I suspect it had to do with them not expecting the kind of turnout we ended up seeing. I'm now wondering if we'll see this again to some extent this year. "The Enthusiasm Gap" has been talked to death, and it's been pretty much factored into all the public polls. However, what's definitely not factored into these polls are field operations. Most folks in The Beltway have been completely dismissive of OFA, but I see them in action here and I know not all of those first time Obama voters have told them they can't vote now because they're under the spell of "The Enthusiasm Gap". While the teabaggers are unquestionably strongly motivated to vote this year and Dems have had base problems with last year's elections, I'm just not seeing Dems stay home en masse while teabaggers flood the polling places.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if a number of pundits, and even math wizards like Nate Silver, end up getting a number of these races wrong just because they took all the public polls at face value.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


[ Parent ]
Nevada
was the only state I remember the polls being pretty far off in 2008.  Polling had Indiana very tight, and was pretty close to Obama's 1% margin overall.

I didn't know about the methodological problem of Rasmussen leaving off a ballot choice (none of the above?).  That's something I could buy into.  But Ras is confirmed by CNN.  Although I will say that the POS polling memo showing Reid up 5 looked awfully professional, thorough, and internally consistent.

I don't agree with you that polls don't take into account field operation.  A good field operation should produce people who are likely to vote who weren't before, and a good likely voter screen should pick that up eventually AFAIK.  So if you're right that Dem field operations are going to give us an advantage, it should show in the polls at some point in the near future.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


[ Parent ]
But what if the public pollsters...
Have already written them off?

So if you're right that Dem field operations are going to give us an advantage, it should show in the polls at some point in the near future.

That probably explains why POS showed something radically different from CNN and Razzy. Razzy doesn't expect much minority turnout. And as I pointed out earlier, CNN expects fewer Dems to show up than Indies AND Reeps, and CNN doesn't expect anyone under 35 to vote. Sorry, but I must call BS on that!

Again, what I'm seeing on the ground here is radically different from what CNN and Razzy say, and probably much closer to that POS poll. While I'm not seeing the kind of wild enthusiasm now that I saw for Obama in 2008, I'm also not seeing all of those voters planning to give up and skip voting. I'm a Democrat under 35, and I DEFINITELY plan to vote, so I can already tell you CNN's model is pure crap.

And the Nevada Dems (coordinated effort for Reid) have a field office on The East Side, engaging those Latin@ voters that Razzy claims won't turn out much at all. And Rory's campaign has a functioning office there as well. And Dina Titus' campaign is now doing outreach there as well. I just don't expect the early voting sites there to be completely empty next week.

And I live in Henderson, which may be the most critical swing area of Nevada this cycle. Now yes, in some neighborhoods I see more Angle signs than Reid signs. But in other areas, I see all Reid and Titus signs and no Angle signs at all. And in my neighborhood, I've talked with Independents, moderate D's and moderate R's, including a couple who usually don't vote in Midterms, and they're all breaking for Reid.

So trust me, I'm NOT out to be some Pollyanna here. I'm saying what I'm saying because what I see on the ground AND what Ralston sees in the private polls just don't line up with many of these public polls we're seeing.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


[ Parent ]
I may be wrong
But I think I remember the polls predicting the Presidential results in Colorado would be much closer than they were, too.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
The sinking feeling that I'm getting
is that the polling errors in '08 were based on pollsters missing the enthusiasm gap, which was on our side that year.  

[ Parent ]
I don't think we're going to lose IL, NV, or WA
I agree with atdleft, especially regarding Washington.

I also think we have a better chance than is acknowledged of holding Colorado and West Virginia.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
I'm not writing off any of those.
See above response to atdleft.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
nitpick
I would be very surprised if Angle or Rossi win. Angle is far behind in RV polls and the Dems have a much better ground operation there. Murray got more votes in the primary and most polls have her ahead outside the margin of error.

House seats I think are definitely off:
NC-7: is there any indication that Pantano is ahead?
SD-AL: most polls have Herseth well ahead. That one recent Ras poll with Noem slightly ahead looks like an outlier.
VA-11: again, is there any evidence favoring the Republican?

House seats I think are probably off: FL-22, GA-8, NC-8, NV-3.

41, Ind, CA-05


[ Parent ]
See above on Angle and Rossi.
NC-07 - Last Survey USA had Pantano up 1.
SD-AL - I'm taking the Ras poll at face value until contradicted.  That's what I do.
VA-11 - Dusty Republican internal had Fimian up 5.  Has never been rebutted.  And Dems are spending here early.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
The rest of the ones you mentioned
FL-22 - This ones probably really close.  Dueling internals are almost identical on either side.  I'm giving the "ties" to the GOP because of the wave.

GA-08 - Scott internal had an 8-point lead.  Haven't seen anything from Marshall since.

NC-08 - Taking Survey USA poll with 5-point LV lead for Johnson at face value until rebutted.

NV-03 - Taking Penn poll showing 3-point lead for Heck at face value until rebutted.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


[ Parent ]
So,
in mid-September a Marshall internal had him leading by 12. Then Scott released an internal showing him leading by 8 the next week. What changed the race so fast? (RuralDem?)

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
Nothing Really
Nothing major has come out on either side. My guess is that one of the polls is way off.

Remember that the previous Scott internal (I think from July) had him down by 9 or so.

So, to sum it up, one of 'em is probably way off. Scott might be tied with Marshall, but I highly doubt he's leading.


[ Parent ]
I knew about
The Marshall poll but will need to see a new one to believe he is still up.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
interesting that
even with such a dire view of the congressional races, Democrats don't fare as bad in governor elections.  Yes, a net loss of six is ugly, but it could have been much worse, given the climate.  The amazing thing is that we are still favored to take 7 governorships away from Republicans, even as we lose 13 (although I'm not ready to write off Maine or Ohio, personally).  Compare that to 2006 when we held all of our seats and just took 6 from Republicans.  Shocking to see 20 states all favored to switch parties of their governors.

[ Parent ]
My governor predictions have been
very stable.  I've flipped back and forth on Florida (where Mason-Dixon seems to have confirmed that the DGA's excellent ad on Scott "taking the fifth" may be resonating).

It's just a matter of the way the states set up.  There were lots of Republicans sitting in Democratic states and vice versa.  A realignment was always in the wings.

I am actually hopeful that we can do even better than 6.  OR could go either way, and there is some evidence of Dem surges in IL, OH, and ME.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


[ Parent ]
Numbers
Have the same net 42 in the House, although some of the races are different.

I have a loss of 7 in the senate, although I can see how you get 10.  NV and IL are still too close to call, and I think Murray will win.

Agree with you on the -6 governors.


[ Parent ]
Ah, the NY GOP's lack of intelligence saves us again
It looks like Paladino is up for a big loss, and will take Dioguardi and Donovan down with him.



21,Democrat, NY-02, male


NV-Sen leading to GOP infighting!
Ralston got the goods today on two prominent Nevada Republicans bashing each other over Reid vs. Angle (casino lobbyist Sig Rogich founded "Republicans for Reid", while nuclear industry lobbyist and ex-Governor Bob List switched support to Angle after Lowden lost the GOP Primary). And even funnier, all the fallout here may hurt the CALIFORNIA GOP! Both were supposed to do a Las Vegas fundraiser for Carly Fiorina, but List objected to Rogich hosting this fundraiser because he supports Reid. Rogich then fired back that List was an EPIC FAIL of a Governor who sold out the state to lobby for Yucca Mountain.

I'm passing the popcorn, but I have a feeling iCarly isn't liking this (and both Harry Reid AND Barbara Boxer are getting good LOLs over this!)...

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


La-03: Sangisetty goes VERY negative in 1st ad, plays for downer supporters
http://dirtylandry.com/
See the ad on the left sidebar. Playing for Downer supporters is a smart move. Many of Downer's supporters were Independents and Democrats who had been voting for him forever, and have voted Republican in federal elections for years.  

Cocaine
I thought that ad with 'Cocaine' playing in the background was kind of funny.  Is that actually running on the air?

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22

[ Parent ]
No
There is no "I'm Ravi Sangisetty and I approve this message"
Plus, it does not tell what they are talking about.
Zornorph, could you e-mail me? My e-mail is jmlee0695@hotmail.com

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CA-Sen: Fresno Bee backs Fiorina
http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/...

Dunno their politics, though.

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Moderate-Conservative...
And more importantly, they're in The Central Valley. They support the peripheral canal project to divert water from The Sacramento River Delta, which Barbara Boxer opposes. IMHO that's the biggest reason they tipped to Carly Fiorina.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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Though...
they did endorse both Obama and Kerry in the last two Presidential elections, and endorsed Gore in 2000, so they're not what you would consider a right-wing newspaper like the Chicago Tribune.

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Expected
Fiorina to sweep up the support of Central Valley newspapers. If there's one area in California where Democrats will take a thrashing this year its going to be in the Central Valley. I would not be surprised if Cardoza and Costa go down or win narrowly this year.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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I just played with NV-Sen #s...
And ended up projecting what I've thought the numbers may very well end up. We've been seeing all sorts of wild numbers from the public polls, numbers that completely contradict the private polls and what most Nevada observers think will happen on Election Day. I tried my best not to be overconfident, so I sobered up and tried my best to make a realistic projection of what the general electorate would look like.

43% Democratic, 39% Republican, 14% Nonpartisan (Independent), 4% Others

(Actual registration is 42% Democratic, 37% Republican, 15% Nonpartisan, and 6% Others.)

And in light of recent news, what I've been seeing in my area, and what I've been hearing both from political insiders and my social circles here in Nevada, here's the breakdown I came up with.

Democrats: 89% Reid, 5% Angle, 3% None of These, 3% Others
Republicans: 10% Reid, 86% Angle, 2% None of These, 2% Others
Nonpartisans: 40% Reid, 45% Angle, 9% None of These, 6% Others
Other Parties: 10% Reid, 10% Angle, 20% None of These, 60% Others

And this led to:

47% Reid
42% Angle
5% None
6% Others

I was actually fairly surprised that None didn't finish higher, but then again I guess it makes sense since both parties are, for the most part, coalescing around their respective candidates. The one exception, obviously, is "Republicans for Reid", which I can testify is quite real.

And whatever the final numbers are, here are some tips to watch in the coming weeks:

- Look at Early Voting turnout, and more specifically who turns out early. A clear sign of a coming Obama romp in 2008 was NOT the public polling, which didn't show any sort of wide Obama lead until late October, but rather the early vote totals showing Dems voting in HUGE numbers.

- Look at where the voters are coming from. One of Angle's lifelines right now is all her support in the rurals. Even though they're not heavily populated, they regularly vote and can tip elections. BUT if Clark County (Las Vegas area, and Reid's strongest area) turns out thanks to all the NV Dem organizing down here, then it will be more than enough to cancel out the rurals.

- Look at who is organizing where. While TV ads can do plenty to drive narrative, TV ads can't make people vote. It simply comes down to field, and who's doing it (and who's snoozing it). And in this cycle, it comes down to whether Karl Rove's 527 and Tea Party enthusiasm can outdo the Nevada Democratic Party's GOTV Machine and the unions' outreach efforts.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


I agree with your assessment
Reid will win with under 50, but it will be an even more embarrassing finish for Angle.  Literally the worst candidate they could have nominated.

Angle won't run up the margin among independent voters that she'd need to win.


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Disagree about early voting
Early voting numbers are a legendarily bad way to predict elections (in fact, I've sat through training sessions where these kinds of elections are case study #1). To get an idea of what's going to happen, you have to know what KIND of Dem or Repub is showing up early. If it's partisan base types, doesn't mean a thing. If it's (like 2008 turned out to be) unlikely or swing voters, that means a great deal. So unless you're out there matching early voters to the voter file and figuring out who's who, you know nothing. There are loads of examples in recent history of early voting edges getting swamped on E-day, because they shot their wad early and didn't get the unlikelies out.

BTW, sophisticated campaigns know exactly who's showing up early. So they KNOW. We, unfortuntely, don't. That's one of the main reasons you'll see national parties abandon races when they seem so close.  


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Just got my sample ballot today.
First time I'll vote in CA.

Of the statewide candidates, I'm voting Democratic with the exception of Bill Lockyer. (I'm voting for the Green Party)

Does anyone know anything about the judicial races and the state measures?  

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


There's a 2010 Progressive Voter Guide (pdf) for the CA propositions
which summarizes the positions of nine different progressive groups with a write-up.
http://www.couragecampaign.org...

the result:
YES on Proposition 19
NO on Proposition 20
YES on Proposition 21
NO on Proposition 22
HELL NO! on Proposition 23
YES on Proposition 24
YES on Proposition 25
NO on Proposition 26
No recommendation on Proposition 27


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I believe I will be voting yes on Prop 20, and no on Prop 27. We NEED to get redistricting out of the state legislature's hands.
I think we've had only one party change in congressional districts (CD-11) in the past couple elections.

Otherwise, I would agree with their choices. Prop 23 is particularly dangerous if it is to pass.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


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Exactly
As much as i want more Dems in Congress from California, it makes no sense at all that the Legislature can draw their own districts, its way too greedy. Same thing about Congress, i read in the LA Times that if say a legislator who's termed out (see Repubs, this is what term limits does!) and they're eyeing the next bigger prize, they would want to influence how their district is made. If there's one person to blame in all of this, is Michael Berman: the guy in charge of redistricting in 2000, and the brother of Congressman Howard Berman. Berman is the most slimy member of the Calif. delegation and i hope he'll retire soon, his district is getting way too Hispanic for him to dilute it any more than it is.

I'm afraid Prop 21 might fail because people are buying into the "Oh noes taxes!!1" and major papers like the LA Times are buying into the nonsense. Prop 23 is a must fail, the requirements are ridiculous (suspend until 5.5% unemployment? Yeah right). Wish i could vote this year.

16, Male, Democrat, CA-42/sometimes CA-32.


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What are your opinion on the downballot races in CA? (or at least that you know of)


28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

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Well
I'm confident in all the statewide races, except LG and AG. I think Newsom will win this but not by much, much like Garamendi vs McClintock 2006 (ironically, now both are in congress!). He's trying to focus more on the environment/education and less on gay marriage, which he's known (in)famously for. Maldo is really the Marco Rubio of California if he gets his cards right (like winning), he's Hispanic, maybe more moderate than Rubio and well-liked.

the AG race is where i'm biting my nails at. Here we have your Law-and-Order candidate (Cooley) vs the reformer/fresh face (Harris), but one lingering issue is the death penalty. Harris opposes it, but says she'll enforce it anyways and Cooley supports it. There was a cop shooting in SF i believe and she said quickly that they wouldn't support the death penalty on the cop-killer, really dumb idea and probably the only reason she's behind so far, alot of SF Dems are torn between "Yeah, elect her AG! She'll be out of here!" and "No, she was a failure as DA, why let the whole state suffer with her?". Another hill to climb is that Cooley is the D.A for true-blue L.A County where he'd get a lot of ticketsplitters. Really wish we'd get more SoCal representation..

I think Prop 23 will lose, as there's been a track-record of defeating bought and paid for props (Props 16 and 17 in June) which will probably continue with Brown defeating eMeg. I'm concerned about Prop 21 the most, but i think we'll pass Prop 20 and oppose Prop 27 by a larger margin than Prop 13 did in 08 because of the general anti-incumbent mood. I hope that happens.

16, Male, Democrat, CA-42/sometimes CA-32.


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The CA-AG race is so depressing.
 I can't think about a Prop 8-supporting AG being elected in a state I very well may end up in for grad school.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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Prop 20 will not lead to more competitive districts
Competitiveness is not a critereon the commission can use.  They are also expressly prohibited from using any partisan voting data.  Prop 20 would insetead lead to more homogeneous districts since it requires grouping people that "share common social and economic interests", "similar living standards" and "similar work opportunities."

Prop 20 would likely eliminate several incumbents, putting California at a disadvantage since other states do not use this system.

The Commission would be made up of 14 members (5 Democrats, 5 Republicans and 4 Other/No Party).  A map needs 9 votes for approval, with support from at least 3 Democrats, 3 Republicans and 3 Others).

The biggest danger with Prop 20 is if the Commission is unable to reach agreement on any of the maps.  If this occurs, the State Supreme Court (6 out of 7 of whom where appointed by Republican governors) would appoint "spcial masters" (most likely retired judgets) to draw the map, which would become law without any further debate.

All the Republicans would need to do would be to convince 3 of their 5 commission members to oppose any map and it would go straight to these Republican-appointed special masters.


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Judges would likely go with a noncontroversial Incumbent Protection Plan
which I would dislike.

It is not as much the competitive districts thing (I would prefer competitive districts though, definitely), but getting rid of the current incumbents that annoy me. We can have good incumbents who are in office for 30 or 40 years (Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, and David Obey come to mind) but the 17 California incumbents who were listed in the Weekly Open Thread 2 are so corrupt they need to go. And sadly, that means putting two incumbents in one district.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


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Seems about right.


28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

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Rubio, Hickenlooper, Patrick.
Interesting how many three way races have played out with one side being divided almost in 2 with the other remaining solid.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

And of course Alaska
allthough Murkowski seems to have some Dem support keeping here in contention.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

OH-09 - Ohio Nazis... I hate Ohio Nazis...
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

So Marcy Kaptur's opponent Rich Lott likes to dress up like a Nazi.  He hopes voters will give him the benefit of the doubt though.  I'm sure they will.

In other news, SSP has this rated "Likely D," leaving us brimming with speculation as to whether the entrenched Kaptur will fall to Lott's vaunted "blitzkrieg" campaign style.  Is this worthy of a ratings change?

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


Pretty selective reporting.
[Iott] added that he has participated in re-enactments as a Civil War Union infantryman, a World War I dough boy and World War II American infantryman and paratrooper.


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Whitman and Fiorina's Hispanic strategy? Get trashed on tequila!
They must be pretty smashed
They're about to hug! Don't they, especially Meg, want to strangle each other?  

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Cardoza responds to SUSA
with his own poll showing him up 53-37.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11



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