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OR-Gov, OR-Sen: Two Very Different Results

by: Crisitunity

Thu Sep 16, 2010 at 5:58 PM EDT


SurveyUSA for KATU-TV (9/12-14, likely voters, 7/25-27 in parentheses):

John Kitzhaber (D): 43 (44)
Chris Dudley (R): 49 (46)
Other: 5 (7)
Undecided: 3 (4)

Ron Wyden (D-inc): 54 (53)
Jim Huffman (R): 38 (35)
Other: 4 (9)
Undecided: 3 (3)
(MoE: ±4.2%)

SurveyUSA's newest poll of the Oregon governor's race continues to have Republican Chris Dudley leading Dem John Kitzhaber, this time by 6 points. It's superficially easy to take this poll with a grain of salt, seeing as how SurveyUSA has wound up significantly in outlier territory in the states that bookend Oregon (in CA-Sen and WA-Sen) and the crosstabs offer the usual confounding details (like a 48-48 tie between the two in the Portland area). Even if you think this race is closer to a tie, though, geez, what a missed opportunity... John Kitzhaber spent a year trying to occupy the intellectual high ground, completely foregoing the opportunity to define Dudley early as a dilettanteish empty vessel, and all he got for his good intentions was a completely avoidable Tossup.

Riley Research (pdf) (8/31-9/9, likely voters, no trendlines):

John Kitzhaber (D): 40
Chris Dudley (R): 39
Other: 5
Undecided: 16
(MoE: ±5%)

This has been a woefully underserved race, with SurveyUSA and Rasmussen left to set the story (with the only other poll I can think of, from well-respected local pollster Tim Hibbitts, showing the race a tie in early summer). So it's good to get a second opinion from someone who's a local pollster and not an auto-dialer (even if it's one I'm not familiar with). They see this as a much closer race, giving Kitzhaber a tiny lead, although with a much bigger share of undecideds. Maybe most interestingly, Kitzhaber actually leads among indies (38-29); the problem here seems to be that Dudley fares much better among GOPers (79%) than Kitzhaber does among Dems (69%).

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Oregon has mail in balloting...
Meaning the ballyhooed enthusiasm gap won't have near the effect.  

But also meaning
Kitz doesn't have very long to turn this around.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

[ Parent ]
Well given all the crap polls SUSA has been spweing this week and beyond
I tend to take that poll with a grain of salt. A huge grain of salt. The Riley poll makes sense because it's showing a much closer ballgame that we been seeing thoughout this race. I see Kitz pulling this out but by a point or so.

OR
This is one I really hope we hold on to.  The difference between Dudley and Kitz is HUGE.

29/D/Male/NY-01

Same here
Because I really like Kitz. If I didn't give all my free money to congressional candidates I give a few bucks to him. You said this

The difference between Dudley and Kitz is HUGE

When you say difference do you mean polling or politically. Dumb question but I question I want to ask.


[ Parent ]
OR
Politically.  I mean I guess thats true in most races now as Republicans are going farther and farther right, but Kitz is pretty progressive, so the difference is kind of maxed out here.

29/D/Male/NY-01

[ Parent ]
That's what I thought
Thank you for clearing that up for me.

[ Parent ]
I don't understand why Dems are down on Kitz
They had the chance to vote for another well-respected progressive against him in the primary, and they chose Kitz by a wide margin.  Now they're considering dumping him for Dudley?  Doesn't make sense.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

Not to mention
Bradbury had the backing of Dean and Gore and still got his butt kicked bad. I see nothing special in Dudley. I'm puzzled as well.

[ Parent ]
Unknown problem: do voters consider Kitz the "incumbent"?
with the favorability issues so associated? I see no overall favorability numbers in the internals of either poll.

He was Gov for 8 years '94-'02.  


Imagine what this would look like if
Greg Walden had run...


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