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SSP Daily Digest: 9/13 (Morning Edition)

by: DavidNYC

Mon Sep 13, 2010 at 8:00 AM EDT


  • AK-Sen: As of Friday, Lisa Murkowski was saying that she still hasn't made a decision about whether to pursue a write-in bid. At least one major Republican is opposed to the idea: Sen. John Cornyn says that Murkowski would have to quit her job as vice chair of the NRSC if she goes the third-party route. I also wonder if her Senate committee spots might be in jeopardy, too. Anyhow, Eric Ostermeier of the University of Minnesota's excellent Smart Politics blog has a good post on the history of write-in campaigns in the Land of the Midnight Sun. In eight statewide contests, the best-ever score in a senate race was 17%, and 26% in a gubernatorial race. I actually think those numbers aren't bad at all!
  • More importantly, we're very close to our fundraising goal for Dem Scott McAdams. So far, 61 people have donated $2,080. I'd love to see us hit our goal of $2,400 - the equivalent of one maximum federal donation - by the end of this week. Think we can do it? Help make it happen!

  • DE-Sen: While everyone's still abuzz about last night's poll numbers, there's some other DE-Sen news worth reporting. For one, the NRA endorsed Christine O'Donnell. For another, so did Sen. Jim DeMint, Kingmaker of Loons. For yet another, Sarah Palin recorded a robocall for O'Donnell, playing up their shared sense of victimhood.
  • Meanwhile, The Hill says that the Tea Party Express has spent some $300K on radio and TV ads on O'Donnell's behalf, but it's a little hard to double-check that since TPX's FEC filings seem to use, shall we say, "new math." Finally, a reporter asked Mike Castle if he'd pursue an independent bid if he lost the primary. (DE's laws are apparently similar to Alaska's in this regard.) Castle was surprisingly non-committal, saying he'd "have to give it thought."

  • GA-Sen: Big Dog Alert (retroactive)! Bill Clinton was in Atlanta late last week to do a fundraiser for Labor Comm'r Michael Thurmond, the Dem senate nominee challenging GOPer Johnny Isakson. Thurmond, as you'd expect, was a big-time Hillary Clinton supporter.
  • IA-Sen: Chuck Grassley, making a play for the dirty old man vote, had this to say when asked why he didn't once look at opponent Roxanne Conlin during a recent debate:
  • "I wish you had told me because I would have been very happy to look at her. She's a very nice looking woman."

  • NH-Sen: The New Hampshire Union Leader has been combing through a batch of emails released by the NH attorney general's office pursuant to a freedom of information request, and they've turned up a doozy: Then-AG Kelly Ayotte used her official email account to discuss campaign strategy with a guy who later became one of her consultants. In better news for Ayotte, Sarah Palin recorded a robocall for her, too (see DE-Sen item above), but man is this imagery getting crazy: She calls Ayotte a "Granite Grizzly." Zuh? Anyhow, Jim DeMint's also decided to get involved here (again, see DE-Sen), endorsing surging wingnut Ovide Lamontagne.
  • NV-Sen: Jon Ralston has the complete tick-tock on how he got Harry Reid and Sharron Angle to agree to a debate on his show - only to have Angle, in a spasm of campaign dysfunction, pull out, despite being the one to throw down the challenge to Reid in the first place.
  • AK-Gov: Anchorage attorney Bill Walker, who drew about 30% in his primary against Gov. Sean Parnell (thanks to $300K in self-funding), says he's still waiting to see if either the Alaskan Independence Party or Libertarian Party candidates withdraw from the race. If there's a drop-out by Wednesday, Walker could take that spot for the general election.
  • HI-Gov: A new robopoll by Aloha Vote (taken for online news service Civil Beat) shows ex-Rep. Neil Abercrombie beating Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann by 48-31 in the Democratic primary. That's a pretty different picture from a Ward Research survey a few weeks ago which had Abercrombie leading just 49-44.
  • NY-Gov: It's been a long time since anyone has come out with any interesting statewide poll numbers in New York, but with just days to go before the primary, Siena has finally managed to surprise us (well, sorta): They show scuzzbucket businessman Carl Paladino in a dead heat with ex-Rep. Rick Lazio, trailing just 43-42. In mid-August, Lazio had a 43-30 lead, so this is all Paladino surge. The rest of the numbers (which test the senate races) are all meh - click the link if you want `em.
  • In other NY-Gov news, the Working Families Party decided to endorse Andrew Cuomo, and Cuomo - who had kept the WFP at arms' length for a long time - accepted. A federal investigation of the WFP was recently dropped, which seemingly helped smooth things. The party was in a very tough spot, though, as without Cuomo on their ballot spot, there was no real path for them to get the 50,000 votes they needed to avoid losing their ballot line. So I'm guessing there may be more to this story.

  • CO-03: What is wrong with GOPer Scott Tipton?
  • "John Salazar, it's time to come home," Tipton said as he opened the debate. "It's 9/11. Let's roll."

  • FL-25: Another mystery teabagger has (not really) come out of the woodwork. Roly Arrojo is running on the Florida Tea Party line, and it seems no one knows a thing about him, except for the fact that he hasn't filed any FEC reports - except for a Statement of Candidacy in which he identified himself as a Democrat. Republicans are suggesting this is a Dem put-up job, but Joe Garcia's camp is of course denying any knowledge of this guy. Interestingly, so is the head of the FL Tea Party!
  • ND-AL: I know, it sounds like parody, but Republican Rick Berg has a great idea: Drill for oil in North Dakota's Theodore Roosevelt National Park! Not only is it, of course, illegal to do so, but it's also a fucking national park!
  • NY-13: Republican Michael Allegretti just got bounced from the new teabaggish Taxpayers Party line, thanks to a lack of sufficient signatures. Rival Mike Grimm already has the Conservative line, come hell or high water.
  • NY-15: Of all people, Mayor Mike Bloomberg wound up recording a robocall for Rep. Charlie Rangel.
  • PA-08 (PDF): Yikes. Sophomore Dem Patrick Murphy just put out an internal from the Global Strategy Group showing him up by a mere 47-43 margin over the man he beat in 2006, Republican Mike Fitzpatrick. This is scary.
  • VA-05: The Weiner Watch continues: Republican Rob Hurt has already skipped two debates, and now he's announced he's skipping a third. Weiner!
  • Chicago-Mayor: Outgoing Chicago Mayor Richard Daley says he won't make an endorsement in the race to succeed him.
  • NY-AG (PDF): Siena also released some final attorney general numbers, finding Eric Schneiderman narrowly in the lead at 25, with Kathleen Rice nipping his heels at 23. Sean Coffey is at 13, Richard Brodsky at 7, and Eric Dinallo at 4. The race has continued to get nasty in its final days, with Rice putting out a TV ad trying to link Schneiderman to scumbag state Sen. Pedro Espada, while a Schneiderman spot hits Rice for only becoming a Democrat in 2005.
  • DCCC: Blah blah blah, Dems not paying their DCCC dues. It's old news, and I'm beyond sick of these stories, but not (only) for the reason you might expect. Oh yeah, I'm pissed at the schmucks who are holding out on their party for no discernible reason, but I'm also frustrated with the DCCC. We've repeatedly told them we want to help them raise money from their members - the netroots is not all-powerful, but we can bring some pressure on stingy Dems. But the DCCC steadfastly refuses to share their dues spreadsheet with us - even though they have no problem sharing it with the likes of Politico, and even though they actually promised to give us a copy at Netroots Nation. Not just obnoxious, but weirdly self-defeating.
  • SSP-TV:

    • NV-Sen: Dem Sen. Harry Reid
    • PA-Sen: Dem Joe Sestak
    • CA-47: Dem Rep. Loretta Sanchez
    • IA-02: Dem Rep. Dave Loebsack
    • PA-08: GOPer Mike Fitzpatrick

    Independent Expenditures:

    • DE-Sen: Tea Party Express ($13K & $55K on media on behalf of Christine O'Donnell)
    • MO-Sen: AFSCME ($43K on anti-Roy Blunt mailer)
    • PA-Sen: CFG ($122K on anti-Joe Sestak ads)
    • KY-06: NRCC ($96K on anti-Ben Chandler ads and polls from two different firms)

    More generally, the NRCC's IE arm said that it would go up with anti-Dem ads in eight districts (though no IE reports have yet been filed): AZ-01, AL-02, FL-02, MS-01, TN-08, TX-17, VA-05 & WI-07. A representative ad is available at the link.

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    Bloomberg?
    Just when you think you've seen it all, Bloomberg robocalls for Rangel.

    26, male, Dem, NJ-12

    PA-08
    I'm sure there's something tackier than associating one's own (admirable) recovery from colon cancer with the need for economic recovery, but I can't think of what it is right now.

    That Fitzpatrick commercial is the sappiest thing I ever saw
    Murphy can provide a nice contrast by being direct and hard-hitting.

    26, male, Dem, NJ-12

    I actually liked this from Jerry Brown
    but Halperin spins it as apocalyptic for his campaign.  Brown (fairly genially I thought) goes after Bill Clinton for lying about his tax record in the 1992 race.  Halperin astutely notes that this likely ends the chances that Clinton campaigns with Brown (like that was ever going to happen).

    http://politicalwire.com/archi...

    34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


    Couldn't disagree more, this is an awful response by Brown......
    Halperin is not very smart, his political analysis frankly is poorer than the average SSPer.  You're right that Clinton was never going to campaign for Brown, so Halperin is being silly.

    But regarding Brown's reaction to the ad, I think it's a no-brainer that you can't get more off-message than to take the bait and dive into an intraparty feud while your Republican opponent stands by and laughs.

    Brown so far is worse than Creigh Deeds.  That's saying somethin', because I'm a Virginia voter and was here for the Deeds debacle.  And Brown up to now has been worse.  If he were in a purple state, he'd be down 20 by now.

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


    [ Parent ]
    The orginal video in the article was taken down
    So I embedded it here for everyone:

    Not only does Brown call Clinton a "liar" Brown also brings up the Lewinsky stuff and says "I did not have taxes with this state".

    Cant see Clinton coming in to help Jerry out after this.

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    [ Parent ]
    Dumb, dumb, dumb
    Why is he attacking Clinton? Why?  

    [ Parent ]
    Agreed. Is Jerry Brown losing it?
    Jeez, just as I was getting a little more confident about him, he blows it yet again. Is he trying to lose?

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    Agreed. The only reasons Brown is even close...
    Are:

    a) California is such a blue state.

    b) Meg Whitman has done plenty on her own to turn off voters.

    c) Boxer's Senate race is motivating Dems to vote.

    However as I said below, Barbara Boxer is keeping her distance with her own campaign and the California Democratic Party (CDP) is always in such disarray that it's a real fool's error to expect the CDP to do any meaningful GOTV. There isn't much time left, so Jerry Brown REALLY needs to cut the crap and campaign for real if he actually expects to win this.

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    Jerry Brown/Bill Clinton
    In Bill Clinton's autobiography, Bubba states something to the effect that Jerry Brown takes every conversation very seriously.  I gathered that Bill Clinton doesn't dislike Brown as much as he can't relate to Brown.  As far as Jerry Brown goes, I found him being somewhat bitter in this video towards Clinton.  

    After Clinton was defeated in 1980, Jerry Brown extended a hand to him and asked Clinton to join his staff (I think Gray Davis was leaving as chief-of-staff and Brown wanted to replace Davis with Clinton).  As usual, Clinton's great political instincts prevented him from exploring that opportunity.

    40, male, Democrat, NC-04


    [ Parent ]
    Bubba also turned down the chance to be DNC chair
    He knew that to make a political comeback he needed to stay in Arkansas.

    [ Parent ]
    Stick a fork in this guy
    Really? You include THAT in your stump speech? Ugh...if I were a Californian, I'd buy a Whitman yard sign now.

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    [ Parent ]
    There
    are so many people i know that are voting Boxer/Whitman. Ya know, if Whitman hadn't spent her way to victory, she'd have a lot more supporters.

    28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

    [ Parent ]
    How is Kamala Harris doing?


    19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

    [ Parent ]
    Not good.
    I live in CA-26 (Dreier's district) and I'd say that there will be a lot of people voting for Cooley. He is very popular in Los Angeles.

    On a side note, regarding the governors race, if Tom Campbell had stayed in and won the primary (probably not likely with Meg's millions), I probably wouldn't have voted for Brown. It speaks volumes to the state of the California Democratic Party that they couldn't find an alternative to someone from the 1970s. Expect younger voters to go Whitman; older ones to go Brown.

    28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


    [ Parent ]
    Whitman is pro-Prop 8...
    hopefully this limits her upside with younger voters although who knows how many people even know about her position there.

    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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    [ Parent ]
    That's nuts
    Swing voters in California (like most of the rest of the country) like Bill Clinton. The sensible thing for Brown would have been to do whatever it took to get Clinton to cut a short ad saying something like, "Jerry and I had our differences in 1992, but you should vote for him because..."

    41, Ind, CA-05

    [ Parent ]
    Facepalm
    What in the world was he thinking?  To paraphrase DCCyclone, this guy is worse than Deeds.

    Someone can call Whitman and tell her she won already.  She can stop torturing the world with every advertisement on television and the internet being about her because Brown is done.

    If I was a down ballot Dem, I would be worried about this clown pulling me down.  The last thing Dems need is dead political weight pulling down other candidates.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


    [ Parent ]
    Most Dems still have a favorable view...
    Of President Clinton. This certainly does NOT enthuse much of the base, and it also risks turning away those swing voters who still have fond memories of Clinton.

    At this point, all I can say is thank goodness Barbara Boxer is running her own campaign...

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    When it comes down to it, it's not going to make much of a difference
    He had to rebut the ad somehow. Whitman used an old clip with a Democrat to misrepresent his tax record, there wasn't a lot of room on what to do here. This will not effect the race how some people think it will.

    24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

    [ Parent ]
    Yup
    If anyone actually gave a rat's ass about the race at this point, it might have an effect, but no one does. I heard a Meg Whitman ad on the radio the other day while driving with a completely apolitical friend and unprompted he issued a string of expletives that basically indicated he was sick and tired of Meg Whitman's commercials. He ended with "Besides, WTF does she know about running a state? The only similarity between eBay & California is that at this rate we'll have to sell the Golden Gate Bridge on eBay to make ends meet."

    Which is both sad and true.  

    Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


    [ Parent ]
    Agree with your take
    Obviously he knew Clinton wouldn't campaign for him so is hitting back hard. Not writing this off just yet.

    [ Parent ]
    PA-08: I think it's a mistake to think Murphy's poll is problematic. Remember that...
    ...Fitzpatrick was the incumbent Congressmen in this district with the same boundaries, and has been on these voters' ballots twice before the past 6 years.  So we're talking equal or near-equal name recognition.

    I think all that considered, Murphy's numbers can be taken at face value, not as "yikes."  I suppose it's "yikes" if you didn't regard Murphy as endangered until this poll came out, but it's been known Murphy is vulnerable for much of the year.

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


    As usual I agree
    Also don't forget he barely won the first time.

    [ Parent ]
    Its close
    The more I look at the two polls put out by the respective camps, the more I look at the other races they polled.  They have nearly identical results in the Gubernatorial and Senate races.  If Toomey is up by 10 and Corbett up by 11 in PA-8, it indicates that the environment is toxic in this district and the state as a whole.  

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    [ Parent ]
    Loretta, not Linda Sanchez


    POLL ALERT in NV-03!
    I don't want to say, "I told you so"...

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/titus...

    But heh. ;-)

    (Dina Titus bumped up her lead over Joe Heck to 47-43. And remember, this is R-J/Mason-Dixon!)

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    I am, indeed, heartened by those numbers. If Titus survives...
    ...then we have a chance to shock the nation and hold the House.  No seat is definitive, but once you have a few incumbents who "should" lose in a wave but suddenly look like they won't, like Titus and Herseth-Sandlin, then it starts looking like, "hmmmmmm......"

    43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

    [ Parent ]
    Believe me now?
    Without a doubt, you're right that no seat is definitive and this is still too close to be taken for granted. However, IMHO Dina really is running a solid campaign and the additional help from the state party, AFSCME, EMILY's List, and others is coming at just the right time. I'm definitely feeling more confident now about Reid AND Titus than I did 6 months ago or even 3 months ago.

    Plus, you have a point on the macro situation. If "bellwether races" like NV-03, SD-AL, and AZ-08 show increasing Democratic strength, then perhaps the coming "Red Tide" won't be as powerful as the DC talking heads had previously proclaimed. It definitely makes me feel more confident in believing we have a much better chance of maintaining our House majority than the pundits had given us. :-)

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    While I think we'll hold the House
    It depends on Ds in seemingly (somewhat) safe seats actually campaigning, incumbents under the radar who win easily in normal years.

    (The following is sheer speculation, based solely on instinct, from fearful memories of waves in '80 and '94).

    In every 'wave,' there are surprise losses, along with unexpected holds. That depends on individual candidates and campaigns. Those "surprise losses" in '10 would come (I'd guess) in D+5 <-> D+10 districts, along with more marginal districts where D incumbents haven't been tested for several elections. (I count 49 districts in the D+5 <-> D+10 range -- in a true wave, 5 to 10 of such incumbents may lose.)

    (However, losses in those districts become prime candidates for pickups in '12.)

    Fortunately, we're being helped by a number of Tea Party-quality candidates. Sure, some will win. But more will lose, (hopefully) forming a break against the R wave this election. That (should be) one statistical bias in our favor.

    However, if the Generic Ballot is still at R+7 or above at the end of October, the "nationalization" of the ballot may be just too much for our candidates to overcome.


    [ Parent ]
    And I agree with you...
    It depends on Ds in seemingly (somewhat) safe seats actually campaigning, incumbents under the radar who win easily in normal years.

    We can't take anything for granted this year. The economy sucks, and people are angry. That's why it's more important than ever to hit the ground running... And I mean HIT THE GROUND! There's no excuse for campaigns not to walk precincts, hold phone banks, do meet-n-greet's, and just engage local voters in the way that many incumbents get too lazy to do when they feel so "safe".

    Fortunately, Dina Titus has been doing this ever since she was sworn in, and her campaign is top notch. Even Shelley Berkley in neighboring NV-01, a much safer Dem seat, is going out and campaigning... Although I think with her, it's more as a favor to Harry Reid (to get out those base votes for him, too).

    But yes, at this point I'm still concerned about those other Congresscritters who haven't yet put their campaigns into full gear. We may already know who some of them are. They need to get out and get working ASAP.

    However, if the Generic Ballot is still at R+7 or above at the end of October, the "nationalization" of the ballot may be just too much for our candidates to overcome.

    I guess anything is possible, but I doubt it. I really do think unless the economy significantly worsens (which could always happen), the GOP may have peaked too early. Obama's now in full campaign mode, and the unions are stepping it up BIG TIME. And if the last Gallup poll is to be believed, the generic numbers are tightening.

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    Great news
    Ads and active campaigning kicking in. Similar to Herseth Sandlin now leading according to Rasmussen.

    [ Parent ]
    hey atdleft
    I read your diary on the situation on the ground in NV-3, and I thought it was some really wholesome coverage.  Polling here seems to bear out the micro dynamics that you were talking about.  

    23, Male, Democrat, OH-13

    [ Parent ]
    Well, I told y'all so...
    Hehe. ;-)

    No really, you're right on the money on the micro-dynamics. In the last couple weeks of phone calls and talking in person, local voters have been more open to Dina. I really do think it's a combo of Dina's AWESOME constituent service & outreach, the state party's solid field/GOTV campaign, and the help coming from friends like AFSCME and EMILY's List. If you read the article, you'll see our "newspaper" and the GOP consultants try to make this sound bad. However, they're full of **it and just jealous that the Dem side is roaring into full gear while they're still trying to get their act together.

    (Btw this morning, I finally saw Heck's ad. It was a fairly good bio spot, but it was on broadcast news and I STILL haven't caught it on any cable channels. Dina's campaign, AFSCME, and EMILY's List ads, OTOH, are on both broadcast and cable.)

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    I just caught this AFSCME ad on TV...
    Just a minute ago. Have any of you seen this on air?

    I like it. It makes a VERY CLEAR contrast on who's on our side & who isn't. It's too bad the DCCC can't do something like this... But hey, I'll take our friends at AFSCME!

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    Playing in Nv, Mi and Pa I believe.
    I've seen it 2-3 times and am not a big teevee watcher.  

    [ Parent ]
    DE-Sen: Team Castle ain't buying the PPP poll
    The link
    says Castle leads by 7 in internals.

    28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

    [ Parent ]
    Still not good and close enough for an upset.


    [ Parent ]
    if he's only up 7 in his internals
    Than I'm thinking O'Donnel wins this one.  Murkowski clearly was taken by surprise indicating her internals showed good numbers.  Castle is prepared, doing all he can and is still in the danger zone.

    Go O'Donnel!


    [ Parent ]
    what else would they say? nt


    [ Parent ]
    Only up by 7... that is sad...


    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    [ Parent ]
    In the sober light of day, I see this as a win-win
    I posted last night about feeling sad that a fraudulent nut job like Christine O'Donnell could pull an upset against Castle (I mean, Angle is bad, but at least she hasn't thrown around homophobic accusation against her opponents - yet). But as I think about it, this is a win-win from my perspective. If O'Donnell loses, good - there's proof of sanity left in the Republican party. If O'Donnell wins, then Delaware gets Coons as a representative (and I think he'll be a good one), and the TPE, DeMint, and Palin, all get an object lesson that it doesn't pay to endorse every crazy tax hater that comes their way.

    Bottom line - no way O'Donnell wins this one. This is not like Angle or Joe Miller or someone like Bob Vander Plaats in Iowa, all of whom could conceivably win this year, and all whom I rooted against in the primaries for just that reason.  


    [ Parent ]
    Just to clarify, I mean no way O'Donnell wins the Senate seat
    I still think she's the favorite for winning the primary, although this might motivate Castle voters who thought this was in the bag to go out and vote for him.  

    [ Parent ]
    It can also motivate O'Donnell voters
    many of whom, I suspect, didn't think she had a chance.

    DE used to be an R state, based on R blue bloods. I suspect many of those blue blood Rs are now Ds, at least in a way similar to those in suburban SE PA.

    The question is what kind of R voters remain in the R party of DE.


    [ Parent ]
    I suspect the progression is even more than in SEPA
    Whereas registration is critical in local elections in SEPA as Republicans dominate local government and the primary is often the equivalent to the general, that is not the case in Delaware.  Additionally, the blue bloods still control the party machine in Pennsylvania particularly in SEPA where that appears not to be the case in Delaware.  Most importantly, the Republicans have actually regained some of their lost voters in terms of registration over the last year.  Again we have not seen this in Delaware.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

    [ Parent ]
    TPX will not see O'Donnell's defeat as a lose
    I agree in general, but I think you are really misreading the mentality of the more militant factions of the tea party movement.  If she wins the primary, which I think is a huge IF, the party is not going to support her in any form.  This will lead the TPX people to cry that the establishment is against them and whatever other nonsensical dribble we hear from them on a daily basis.  Remember they do not see the folly in their own electoral acts, but blame others.  Assuming these more militant elements will learn their lesson is a stretch in my book.  I think they will continue this nonsense for awhile and might be more emboldened by such a loss.

    Otherwise your analysis of the situation is dead on.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


    [ Parent ]
    But then again...
    This is not like Angle or Joe Miller or someone like Bob Vander Plaats in Iowa, all of whom could conceivably win this year, and all whom I rooted against in the primaries for just that reason.

    They're blowing it with many of these races as well. As I've been saying here, the Nevada GOP establishment HATES Sharron Angle and they've either kept silent or joined "Republicans for Reid". While we certainly can't take anything for granted here, everything I've seen with my own eyes and heard from reliable sources indicates "Tea Party, Inc." blew it in pushing Angle here in Nevada.

    And with Alaska, all of a sudden we have a pickup opportunity. Given, it's a longshot, but now there's a competitive race where there wasn't one just a month ago. Joe Miller is wackadoodle beyond belief... Unless one believes Sharron Angle is NOT from Area 51! ;-)

    And in Colorado, Mike Bennet may very well be saved by Ken Buck running his mouth into deep doo-doo. Yet again, "Tea Party, Inc." let their hubris get in the way of making a smart electoral choice.

    Now don't get me wrong, even though I'm a Yellow Dog Democrat, I've always appreciated talking with smart Republicans and I've admired those Republicans (like our late Governor, Kenny Guinn) who've shown real policy chops. However, I just can't take the whole "Tea Party" nonsense seriously because they can't offer any serious policy and they push their agenda through these laughably awful candidates who look like they were ripped from an SNL or Mad TV skit.

    While a few teabagger candidates will certainly win, I really do think the whole "tea party movement" may end up hurting the GOP in the near term by negating whatever advantage they have this cycle, and in the longer term by weakening their credibility as a serious conservative party.

    Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
    24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


    [ Parent ]
    They've definitely put themselves in a worst position
    From my perspective, I would rather never have a Angle or Joe Miller or Rand Paul come close to the Senate (and in the latter's case, I think he has to be considered the favorite), so I rooted for other candidates. Nor, being originally from Iowa, could I even fathom the possibility (however remote), of Bob Vander Plaats being governor. But if you were looking at it from a purely "what improves Dems chances of winning these seats," (which I realize a lot of people on this site do), then yeah, you'd always want to root for the Tea Party candidates because they are objectively hurting the party's chances of winning. (in Colorado, I think, it might be debatable, since Jane Norton was no great shakes as a nominee either).

    But I guess my point is that unlike all of the above mentioned candidates, I honestely have no worries at all Christine O'Donnell will be the next Senator from Delaware. She doesn't just hurt Republican chances, she kills them. I would be actively hoping she's win if I didn't despise her so much. She is exactly the kind of person who should not be around in politics.  


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    This is a bipartisan dislike of her
    My twitter feed over the last few days has been filled with my dislike of her personally.

    In terms of winning races, I think nominating a tea party candidate in Alaska, Nevada, and Kentucky has hurt the GOP's chances.  Colorado is a wash at best on whether Buck helps or hurts.  Norton came off as the Republican Coakley where as Buck seems to be a stronger campaigner even if he suffers from foot in mouth syndrome at times.  Of all of them, Angle is probably the most destructive.  Any other Republican would be up 5 to 10 on Reid at this point.  Kentucky would have been easier for the Republicans, but I do not think Conway would have been blown out if he was facing a better candidate as Conway himself is a good candidate.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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    Sounds about right.


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    and we havent even gotten
    To where they actually get to run against Obama!  This isn't even grab the popcorn time yet!

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    2012
    While I will avoid getting too deep into 2012, I doubt a tea party candidate wins because there are too many candidates carrying that banner.  Palin, Huckabee, plus several other freaks will split that vote and someone like Romney or Daniels is going to come up the middle.  This will be 2008 all over again with the most moderate candidate in the field walking up the middle while the freaks fight it out.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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    Fuck the candidates running
    Im more excited to see what happens at rallies and such.  Remember the calls to "Kill him!" before he was even elected?  People were terrified of him before and they're even more scared shitless now.  Which could mean two years from now when he's actually on the ballot, these people could finally be ready for their armed insurrection.

    Cannot wait; it's going to be extremely ugly and fascinating to watch.


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    IA-Senate. I'll leave the political implications to desmoninesdem
    But given that Roxanne Conlin is (I believe) 65, does Chuck Grassley really qualify as a "dirty old man" for saying this?  

    Interesting question
    Electorally does it matter?  Probably not.  Actually this might be a plus seeing as the country ages, the dirty old man demographic is probably increasing.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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    Nah, it doesn't matter at all.
    Heck, I support Conlin and I can't even pretend to get upset. I guess there's the whole "this is sexist" (which it is) and "this is a sign of how we're not taking women politicians seriously," but given the respective ages of the two politicians, those critisms probably don't carry as much weight as they usually would.

    But I'm hoping desmoinesdem, who in addition to being an expert on Iowa politics is also a woman, will weigh in on whether this is more offensive than I'm giving it credit for.  


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    I am curious what desmoinesdem thinks too
    Her take on this will be interesting.

    I admit I would find it more offensive if she was substantially younger.  Again that might be because I am younger and I would also infuse ageism into it.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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    The whole context is important
    desmoinesdem posted the whole quote in another thread, and it seemed light-hearted, funny, and not disrespectful to Conlin.

    "I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
    --  Will Rogers  


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    Good
    If this was a standard joke you would hear among senior citizens at the local senior citizens center, I think it is even more meaningless.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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    doubt many people will hear about
    Grassley's comments at the post-Iowa Public tv press conference. It is bizarre and makes me wonder what Grassley is thinking, but I don't see it as a game-changer.

    I thought Conlin did quite well during the taping, but again, not many people were watching the the show. Grassley has already got positive tv ads running, and Conlin can't afford full tv buys yet. If I were her, I would use some of the video of his flubs on Iowa Public Tv in a future ad.


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    When are the Delaware and New Hampshire primaries?
    Tomorrow?

    Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

    Yes


    24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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    More DE-Senate: Spot on analysis (IMHO) from Kos
    I realize Kos can be wrong (most notably, on the NJ governor's race last year), but this sounds exactly right to me. For those who haven't seen it, see what you think.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/...


    Good analysis
    Castle would be DOA if O'Donnell was not a scumbag.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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    You're right
    If he had a conserative opponent who had only have the scandal and questions of O'Donnell, he'd get clocked.  It really shows how far the mood in the GOP has shifted to the right that someone like this is even in the ballgame.

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    Two reasons
    I have two reasons for what is going on here:

    1)  Many people do not know about her status as a con artist.  I have encountered a few people who did not know and changed their mind after my statements.

    2)  These people do not care about facts.  This is typical among people who believe they are victims of some vast conspiracy against them.  Basically this is what I called the Victim Conservatism mentality.  I am going to leave it here as this really is not the forum to fully articulate what Victim Conservatism is.

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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    if it relates to elections then spill
    And I already like your terminology of Victim Conservatism because as many can probably tell, Im firmly in the "this is racism" camp and they all feel like they are victims due to the government ruining their lives and they all felt like victims then when the government ruined their lives and freed their slaves.

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    Victim Conservatism
    I admit I stole the term.  Here is a suggested article on the topic:
    http://themoderatevoice.com/38...

    23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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    This wed ad would be way more fun to watch after Prop 19 passes!
    Its from Nancy Pelosi's long shot Republican opponent John Dennis.

    I'm not sure if it sychs up with Darkside of the Moon but I'm sure someone here at SSP will look into it.

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    woops, left out the ad. Here it is.


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    In the wake of DE-Sen (R) numbers, this comes as no suprise
    GOP Mainers want Snowe out.

    http://publicpolicypolling.blo...

    She is losing to 2006 GOP gov nominee Chandler Woodcock 38-33%, with 63% of Republicans wanting her out of the senate.

    Holy Crap mah boys.  I sure hope this sentiment stands, We could make some epic gains in 2012 (Ensign, Kyl, Snowe, Liberman and  KBH).  I hope it's in a better environment than this though...

    20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)


    Question...
    Are Maine primaries open or party-exclusive?  Cause Snowe may actually be popular enough among moderates and Democrats to pull off a primary win if it's not closed.

    Male, 23, NJ-12

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    I think there closed
    Remember, Paul LePage won. Reps need to change that before LePage is elected!  

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    Speaking of LePage:
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

    Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
    So little time, so much to know!


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    NY State dumb question
    I know that NYC has runoffs. But what about NY State?

    We have five strong candidates seeking the nomination
    to be Attorney General. One of them could win it with
    only 25% of the vote?

    Or if there will be a runoff, when's that?


    Wow!
    Another reform needed in this state.

    I don't think runoffs should be necessary just because the leading candidate falls short of 50%. I'd be happy with a 40% threshold common in many other places.

    But with a wide field like this, really, someone could take it with 25% and be absolutely the wrong one to win.

    ---------------

    Thanks for the info, Johnny.


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