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KY-Sen: Paul Leads Primary, General

by: Crisitunity

Fri Mar 19, 2010 at 1:33 PM EDT


Research 2000 for the Daily Kos (3/15-17, likely voters, 8/31-9/2/2009 in parens):

Rand Paul (R): 40 (25)
Trey Grayson (R): 28 (40)
Other: 14 (18)
Undecided: 18 (17)

Dan Mongiardo (D): 47 (37)
Jack Conway (D): 31 (30)
Other: 8 (15)
Undecided: 14 (18)
(MoE: ±5%)

Dan Mongiardo (D): 37 (42)
Rand Paul (R): 46 (37)
Undecided: 17 (21)

Dan Mongiardo (D): 38 (41)
Trey Grayson (R): 43 (45)
Undecided: 19 (14)

Jack Conway (D): 39 (41)
Rand Paul (R): 45 (37)
Undecided: 16 (22)

Jack Conway (D): 36 (40)
Trey Grayson (R): 44 (46)
Undecided: 20 (14)
(MoE: ±4%)

Research 2000 doesn't have very appealing numbers out of the Kentucky Senate race, where, over the last half a year, Rand Paul seems to have strengthened his position considerably. Very little else has changed -- in the Dem primary, Dan Mongiardo leads Jack Conway by about the same a bigger margin, while Mongiardo and Conway both poll about the same as before vis-a-vis Trey Grayson -- but Paul has shot into the lead in the GOP primary. And Paul is now overperforming Grayson in relation to the Dems, instead of losing to them, as was the case in September.

Color me a little puzzled; the libertarian-minded Paul just seems to have the wrong profile for Kentucky, an Appalachian-flavored state that's socially conservative and likes its earmarks. The SurveyUSA poll of a few weeks ago seemed to promise a competitive race in Kentucky, but it was based on a Generic D/R question. The problem seems to be that Paul is by no means a Generic Republican, and Grayson hasn't seemed to be able to find a way to make a case on just how weird Paul is (while the Dems have been mostly focused on walloping each other). Let's hope the Dems' May 18 nominee will fare a little better on that front.

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Look at the Dem primary numbers again
Mongiardo is now CRUSHING Conway -- more's the pity.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

if paul wins
it'll be funny.  Either he'll be constantly feuding with McConnell, or he'll sit back on the bench and disappoint his rabid followers.  think libertarians will ever realize that their philosophy of no government, no earmarks, etc is with a few small exceptions, only followed by those without power?

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

If Paul wins
If Paul wins, that's a big slap in the face to McConnell.  I bet McConnell had some big dreams of getting rid of his crazywhacked counterpart (Bunning), but now he's facing the big possibility of serving with Paul, who is as equally as crazy.

I'm not at all writing this race off.  Paul's rhetoric might be helping him now, but once the onion is peeled, I bet many Kentucky folks will start wondering if they really want another crazy Senator who won't help their state out at all in this position for 6 years.  The Democrat might not win, but it should be close.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


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if this were 06/08
I'd be liking my chops expecting a dem victory with Paul as the nominee but this is not the year to reject the crazies... this is the year of the disheartened base and ramped up rabid right.  Oh well, let's see what 2016 looks like.  Might be a chance for us to have a repeat of history (remember, they are kicking out Bunning this cycle).

Well
I think we can just about take this one off the board folks.  We've got no chance in the general with Mongiardo as the nominee.  Even if Conway were to win it looks like our chances against either Paul or Grayson would be very small.  

Not gonna happen.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


You don't take anything off the board in March ...
... nevertheless, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) is a definite possibility.  

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Eh
Maybe not off the board entirely, but I'm finding it very hard to imagine the democrat winning this race in Kentucky, in a very republican year, when the state is trending rightward in federal races.  

Currently I don't have ratings for the Senate races, but I'd put this one no better than Likely R.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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It is still only March
A million different things could happen.

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dude c'mon
"very republican year"????

It's freaking March.  Seriously, talking about taking anything off the board eight months out is just not very logical.

This is especially true with an aggressive candidate like Paul.  He'll be attacked by Trey and by the Dem nominee for months.  Assuming that will have no effect on a first time candidate is naive.


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Given that the Democrats are playing defense in upward of 10 states...
They're not going to have much room for offense.

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I think given KY's conservative lean + Mongiardo's general weakness, this is probably Likely-to-Lean GOP
I wanna say Grayson's the more formidable opponent, but then again, he may not get out the tea-bagging vote as well as Paul. Either Republican will garner Bunning's '04 votes, which, in theory, should alone be enough to cross the finish line. I think Conway would only perform about 3% better than Mongiardo.

Democrat - 42%
Republican - 40%
Independent - 18%

Mongiardo - 83/7/43 = 46%
Paul - 17/93/57 = 54%

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In case you couldn't tell already
I'm a pretty pessimistic guy about the 2010 elections, but I wouldn't write this one off -- Rand Paul is an effin' weirdo. He may look strong now, but he has some weak points that I think could definitely be exploited in a general election. This could be a real wild card race.

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Weaknesses
I haven't been following this race that closely.. but everyone keeps talking about Paul's weaknesses. Given his last name (well, and his first), I can imagine several, but is there any indication he will be a senator version of his father? Or are his politics a bit less libertarian?  

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For one thing
Paul has, on his record, some pretty unfriendly comments towards coal.

For another, check out this 9/11 weirdness.


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That's why we need to make this election about being crazy
If Trey Grayson is the nominee, I think we lose.  He's not a great candidate, but he's fine for a generic Republican -- and that will be good enough in Kentucky in 2010.  I'm also not sure the changes of taking this seat depends all that much on which of the two Democratic candidates gets the nomination -- they're both competent and fine and all, but nothing all that special.

If we're going to win, we need Rand Paul to be the nominee, and show the people of Kentucky how crazy he is.  I'm not talking about what people around here would consider "Right Wing Crazy" (the average voter in Kentucky might like that too much!), or just a little eccentric.  I'm talking about full-on Birther, Truther, Black Helicopter, Social Security is Communist, Gold Bullion currency, the Earth is Flat, cue the circus music crazy!!

Then we MIGHT have a shot at it.


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Rand Paul has "mainstreamed" his positions away from his dad......
At least that's what Politico reported in a piece about this race.

And if you believe the one quote from Rand on what he "really" believes on several things on national security matters, then he really is more mainstream wingnut than his libertarian purist dad.  And of course Rand is, like his dad, anti-choice, which often is enough to appease cultural conservatives into accepting him as "one of their own."

I have a feeling it's harder to paint Rand as a crazy than it appears on the surface.  And I think his clearly growing strength underscores that point.

That said, James L. is right that an opportunity to exploit whatever non-mainstream views Rand doesn't deny still is there.

But I don't think Mongiardo is the right guy.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


Wow, wtf happened
Conway had momentum, how is he now 16 points down?!

If Conway doesn't win the primary, I don't think we will get KY unfortunately :(

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)


Conway always seemed to have momentum
but I dont remember ever seeing any good numbers for him in the primary.  i always look a them and think, man no matter how the race is turning, the numbers aren't!  The Mongiardo tirade about Beshear didnt result in any meaningful shifts in the numbers IIRC.

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