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AR-Sen, IL-Gov: Ratings Changes

by: Crisitunity

Mon Feb 08, 2010 at 2:14 PM EST


  • AR-Sen (Lincoln): Tossup to Lean R
  • Rep. John Boozman officially entered the Arkansas Senate race this weekend. While he had telegraphed this for weeks, his official entry means that there's finally a top-tier candidate for the Republicans. This race was a tossup even with a grab-bag of state legislators and self-funders, thanks to the Democratic brand's decay in Arkansas and Blanche Lincoln's play-it-down-the-middle-and-appeal-to-nobody approach. Two polls this week gave Boozman a lead over Lincoln in the 20-point ballpark, though, indicating that a stronger Republican probably pushes this one out of Lincoln's grasp.

    Boozman will still have to fight his way out of the crowded GOP primary -- state Sen. Gilbert Baker and businessman Curtis Coleman aren't getting out of the way (although some of the lesser opposition, like Tom Cox and Buddy Rogers, have bailed out), and Boozman's long House tenure may be a liability in an anti-incumbent, anti-establishment year. His base in the state's dark-red northwest will probably see him through the primary, though.

  • IL-Gov (Quinn): Likely D to Tossup
  • It's a bit of a surprise that Pat Quinn survived the primary election, as the primary campaign revealed he had something of a glass jaw, and the last few polls of the race showed him with terrible approval ratings and getting edged by challenger Dan Hynes. It's never a good sign to have a bloody, depleted victor staggering out of a barely-won primary, and his problems are compounded by general anti-incumbent fervor and bad economic conditions in the Rust Belt, which is enough for us to move this race all the way up to Tossup.

    Still, there are a few things that Quinn has in his favor: he has an extremely long period (nine months) to rehabilitate himself, while the Republicans won't even have a nominee for a while, and most likely it'll be Bill Brady -- while Illinois throughout the 80s and 90s was happy to elect moderate, suburban Republicans to statewide office, it remains to be seen whether a socially conservative downstate resident can get over the hump. Finally, the Scott Lee Cohen sideshow quickly and suitably resolved itself this weekend, leaving the state party to pick a more appealing running mate... although, after some initial lukewarm interest, Hynes has now taken his name out of consideration for a unity ticket.

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    Very thoughful ratings changes
    However, I'm sure the Cook political report will jump all over the Boozman entry to push their own narrative of a sinking ship for Dems - it seems they're increasingly taking the fox news path. Biden decides not to run and they move Delaware straight to solid R without even giving a thought to Chris Coons's entry. But when Blumenthal runs in place of Dodd that only makes it lean D. What a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if they just jumped Arkansas all the way to super-solid R.

    In fairness to Cook...
    Almost everybody is rating Delaware as a solid R right now. That could change, but Coons starts off as far behind, and even though many Dems are excited about him he still hasn't shown he can win against a proven commodity like Castle.

    I have more problem defending the Blumenthal ranking. I think he's buying the Repubs spin about Blumenthal not having run a tough race in awhile, but couldn't the same thing be said about Castle?  


    [ Parent ]
    "but couldn't the same thing be said about Castle? "
    It can since Castle been in the House since 1992 and hasn't seen a competitive race in years and has changed his moderate persona and is pretty old. They can't compare Castle to Blumenthal because Blumenthal has always been uber-popular a Dem in a Dem state and since he entered the race, every poll has shown him wiping the floor of Simmons, McMahon and Co. I expect this crap from Stu Rothenberg, but not Charlie Cook.

    As for the changes for the SSP rating, completely agree with AR-Sen but IL-Gov rating should of stayed the same.

    22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


    [ Parent ]
    Ill Gov
    should not have been likely D, at the most leans D, but SSP's tossup fits. I mean Quinn's numbers are in the toilet right now, lets just hope they get back up soon.  

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

    [ Parent ]
    There in the toilet
    Because Hynes ran him into the ground with all the negative ads he ran on him. He should be fine since Novermber is a while from now and that Scott Lee Cohen isn't his runningmate anymore (shsme on you IL Dems for even for his guy in the first place).

    22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

    [ Parent ]
    His republican is going to be just as bas as Hynes was,
    probabl worse. We have the upper hand in Illinois, but the republicans have a good shot.  

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

    [ Parent ]
    Gosh I can't type
    his republican canidate

    and add a y to probably  

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  


    [ Parent ]
    I'm not saying it's safe Dem
    They have a chance like what you said but that's it. Probally less if Hynes didn't try to take Quinn to the abyss with his negative campaign but hey in IL that shit helps. I suspect once we actually know who the GOP nom is Quinn will know what to do, hell Blago knew what to do and that man was insane...literally.

    22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

    [ Parent ]
    If Brady is the republican nominee then its
    leans democrat, if Dillard gets it then it's a tossup. Brady is WAY too conservative for Illinois, I mean when you oppose abortion even when the mothers life is at risk then you aren't going to be loved. Dillard on the other hand is a faux moderate that everyone seems to love, and he really could win it. As for Quinn, he did a Coakley and let Hynes step all over him without putting up much of a fight. He does not seem like the best candidate in the world.

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

    [ Parent ]
    Agreed...
    Espically on Dillard, didn't that guy endorse Barack for President. I mean that will go very will for his moderate creds when your a Repubican running for statewide office in a blue state and you endorsed the ststes second favorite son (Abe Lincoln most likely is number one)for President. As for Quinn I can't say he's the sharpest pol because I don't know that much. But if he didn't fight back againist the Hynes ads, shame on him because going negative does help a candidate and in the primary it can bloody up the opponent your trying to defeat if he survives. Of course Quinn is lucky because he's got nine months to campaign and clean up his act.

    Brady even opposes abortion even if the mothers life is at risk? Oh yeah that will go real great statewide in Illinois.

    22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


    [ Parent ]
    Quinn's no Coakley
    Quinn is a much better politician than Hynes. If you watched the last debate on PBS, he was taking the fight to Hynes (who appeared somewhat meek and nervous by comparison). I mean, Quinn didn't give an inch. He was asked questions about the biggest mistake he's made in office and whether he would support Hynes if he lost, and he ended up somehow turning his answers into attacks on Hynes without answering them. I don't know if he'll be a good governor, but I have no doubts about Quinn's political skills.

    I can see how you would think that if you only watched the commercials though. It was strange to see Hynes have such hard-hitting ads when he's the exact opposite himself. But Quinn did finally respond to the prison ads with the cemetery attack, which was smart.


    [ Parent ]
    "Almost everybody is rating Delaware as a solid R right now."
    Except: CQ (Likely R), Rothenberg (Lean Takeover), and Sabato (Lean R).

    Really, the only mainstream prog I can find who went all the way with DE-Sen was Cook.

    So, your statement, on its face, is just false.


    [ Parent ]
    I think DE-Sen is probably Likely GOP for now
    I suspect Castle does win by double-digits, but you can't overlook the state's overwhelming Dem registration, not to mention Coons hails from, by far, the most populous area in the state. The problem is, I think Castle can win 20-25% of Dems, and 60%+ Indies.

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    [ Parent ]
    Point taken...
    I see it likely GOP for now until Coons really starts to campaign and your right you can't overlook the state political tilt and where Coons is from but I could see Castle getting over 20 percent of Dems if he was still voting like a moderate lke he has in previous Congresses, he isn't now like how he voted againist the stimulus which he then later toted the $5 million DE got as part of it and HCR and made various teabagger talkingpoints about it on the House. If Coons and bring that to the Dem voters attention there that percent could go down.

    22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

    [ Parent ]
    I think P Quinn is not in a Toss-Up
    I think P Quinn defeat in the primary a strong, very strong challenger and this is not sign of weakness, I think this is sign of strenght. I can not assume Hynes voters will think: "without Hynes, better a republican". Sorry, but I can not assume that.

    I think D Hynes has not the correct attitude in this moment. Im more critic with Hynes than with Quinn. And Hynes let open the door for Topinka return, an important mistake for me. Quinn take office the same month than Obama, he can not to hold responsible of all in Illinois.

    The republican primaries out the republicans with higher name id and with better polls, and let a candidate what may need a recount for assure the nomination. With a 20% of the votes the republican candidate has very hard work in next months in his own side. He seems not a new Scott Brown, who run alone since the first day with all republicans helping him.

    I think Hynes is stronger than Brady, and Quinn defeat Hynes, that should be a good point for Quinn chance of win in nombember. With Cohen out, I think Quinn's chance of win improve after the primaries, specially after the republican primary what end not still.

    Hynes should support Quinn over the republicans, but if he denies the support, in my mind only lose Hynes.


    Quinn
    turned a high double digit primary lead into nothing. He let Hynes walk all over him. The fact that the primary was so close shows Quinn's weakness' not his strength's, he should have won it easy. Although I still think he can win the general, at least I hope so.

    Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

    [ Parent ]
    I have different point about this

    Hynes is not an unknown emerging candidate, he is a young three term statewide officer what win three statwide races previously. Is not rare he close the race for the nomination.

    Hynes is stronger than much other democratic frontrunners for governor in much other states, including some blue states.

    But now would be righ time for union against the republican of the 20%, and Hynes can recover his political career as candidate for Lieutenant Governor. Only telling a so obvious thing: "Quinn is much better than a republican".

    If the stablishment forget Hynes for Lieutenant Governor, only the stablisment lose in my mind, and if Hynes denies the help to Quinn, only Hynes lose in my mind.


    [ Parent ]
    I actually think this race is a legit toss-up
    Though Brady's gonna be a tough sell to moderates, Quinn still needs to weather the severly anti-incumbent storm; he could barely get over the finish line with the members of his own party. Plus, Rich Whitney, the Green candidate who garnered 10% of the vote in '06, is back once again. I dunno if he can quite muster double-digits again, but then again, this environment is much less Dem-friendly than four years ago. Of course, on the flip side of that, Judy Baar Topinka, the GOP nominee in '06, was a bonifide liberal Republican who performed very well among Independents and moderates. Brady's gonna have a tough time there.

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    [ Parent ]
    The last poll Quinn-Brady from Rasmussen (12-14-09) tell:

    Quinn 45% Brady 30%

    That in the middle of the storm and from Rasmussen. And PPP forget poll Brady... I think this should be not a Toss-Up. They are not signs still for this change. With the next Rasmussen poll, maybe, because sure they will wish make appear Brady as a new star in Illinois, but not still.

    Abercrombie or Boxer and much others have worse numbers than Quinn vs Brady.


    [ Parent ]
    middle of the storm?
    I live in Illinois and Pat Quinn isn't getting any more popular here. An incumbent governor without a major scandal barely hanging on is not a good sign. And that poll was taken before the brunt of Hynes' hardest-hitting attacks. Quinn has his work come out for him overcoming negative perceptions of him.

    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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