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KY-Sen: Republicans Take the Lead

by: James L.

Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 4:31 PM EST


Public Policy Polling (12/18-21, registered voters, 4/2-3 in parens):

Jack Conway (D): 33 (37)
Trey Grayson (R): 40 (33)

Jack Conway (D): 36
Rand Paul (R): 42

Dan Mongiardo (D): 35 (36)
Trey Grayson (R): 44 (40)

Dan Mongiardo (D): 36
Rand Paul (R): 42
(MoE: ±2.8%)

There are a few takeways from this: First, all of these candidates are fairly unknown and undefined. Conway and Grayson have "Not Sure" numbers of 63% and 64%, respectively, in their favorability scores. The circus act that is Rand Paul, on the other hand, has left more of an impression than either of these statewide-elected officials, with only 51% of the electorate being unfamiliar with him. The best known of this lot, Lt. Gov. Dan Mongiardo, has less room for growth: only 38% are unfamiliar with him, while his favorables are underwater at 25-37 (Conway, Grayson, and Paul all have close to net neutral favorable ratings). I'm still kind of surprised that Mongiardo stayed in the primary after a string of profanity-laced tirades against Gov. Steve Beshear were released on tape, but the primary head-to-heads released yesterday suggest that he still has shot at the pie.

Next, speaking only for myself, I'm not optimistic about this race if Grayson can squeak through the primary. Now, perhaps the national environment will improve enough to give a guy like Conway an easier shot in such a race, but I'm not going to hold my breath. However, if Paul can ride a wave of his own freaknut base and forge an alliance with the teabag crowd in the GOP primary, I like the general election a lot better. As we've mentioned many times in the past, Paul represents a weirder strain of conservatism, one that isn't exactly a perfect fit for a mainstream Kentucky electorate. It's possible that a candidate cut from his cloth could get swept into office if the national trends are that bad, but his libertarian views will be vulnerable against a competently-run Democratic campaign in a general election. It should be a very fun race to watch.

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No Open Thread yet today, so . . .
WHAT IS THIS ?!?!?!?!?

http://www.politico.com/news/s...

Sen.McCain called Rep. Chris Carney (D PA-10) about switching parties today and Carney didn't come right out and say "I'm a Democrat, and always will be." Carney has a district that is moving left (up from 40% for Kerry to 45% for Obama) and he's considering a switch?????

WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?????

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


That would be bizarre
Other than cap and trade and Stupak he voted for the entire Democratic agenda.

[ Parent ]
Because switching parties
Is working out oh so well for Parker Griffith.

Or Arlen Specter.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09


[ Parent ]
Actually, it is working out for Specter
Specter was dead until he switched.

But you can't go in the other direction.  


[ Parent ]
At least Specter probably wins his primary
Carney has no opponent yet wants to risk a GOP primary against a no-name with his voting record? Madness is the right word.

[ Parent ]
Carney would be crazy to do that
He would lose the Republican primary, and he's really not having any trouble as a Democrat. However, he did outright lie to activists in 2006 about where he he is on gay rights. So he is clearly a calculator.

[ Parent ]
If this is true
His calculator needs knew batteries.

[ Parent ]
Yup
Not to mention, Rahm spent big bucks on him. If he can't hold on to Carney. . .

[ Parent ]
It could be strategic
String them along and make it more likely he doesn't get a top-tier challenger.

[ Parent ]
I think Carney is not in this way, i think McCain try to destabilize
Carney vote YES to Health Care Reform with Public Option.

[ Parent ]
While some switches are ideological...
...most of the time people switch for two reasons.  Political or because of disagreements with their own party.

Ralph Hall though conservative as hell only switched once he was threatened in the wake of the Tom Delay engineer midterm redistricting.  And was quite up front and honest about how that was the reason he switched.  That is a classic political switch.  No animosity towards the party he left  Just a matter of what one can get in return and political survival.

Disagreement with ones party is of course the other reason.  Ben Nighthorse-Campbell is a good example of the second.  He was a moderate Democrat.  Not the most liberal Democrat.  Not the most conservative.  But somewhere in between.  On paper he seemed way too liberal to be considered a candidate for a party switch.  But he had bitter disagreements with members of the Colorado Democratic Party that resulted in him packing his bags and becoming a Republican where he moved dramatically to the right (most party switchers move their positions towards the ideological center of their new party after switching).

So my question is considering he is certainly not the most endangered Democrat and his positions certainly don't put him outside that of most Democrats... what is his relationship with his local Democratic organizations and the statewide party and is there anything there to suggest any tension?

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


[ Parent ]
Probably best to move this
To the diary. We have already hijacked the thread here.

[ Parent ]
Wrong place, guys.
If you want to talk Carney, go to the user diaries.

Otherwise, hold up -- I'll have a post up on this soon.


Sorry James
I was heading out for the evening (just got back) and didn't have time to write up a diary, but figured it needed mentioning here. Due to lack of Daily Open Thread, figured the top was the best option.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

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Of freaknut bases and a future US Senator
Posts like this make me realize how much I prefer the biased but civil presentation of orthodox news.  

Rand Paul's position overlaps a greater number of voters and candidates who support an end to foreign escalations rather that an increase.  Rand Paul's beliefs may certainly be weird compared to what people might think of as conservatives (for instance US Senators Kyl and McCain), but that only goes to show the common usage of the term conservative is so broad as to be nearly useless.



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