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SSP Daily Digest: 10/23

by: Crisitunity

Fri Oct 23, 2009 at 3:43 PM EDT


VA-Gov: It's grown exceedingly hard to see a path to victory for Creigh Deeds in Virginia's gubernatorial race. The polls aren't closing (if anything, the gap may be widening), and there's less than two weeks until election day. What's more, the highest echelons of the Democratic Party are now distancing themselves from Deeds, saying he rejected Barack Obama & Tim Kaine's "road map to victory." The Swing State Project is therefore changing its rating on this race from Lean R to Likely R. (D)

Also, while the second-guessing has begun, PPP suggests that it's just a bad year for Dems and/or a strong opponent in Bob McDonnell: they found that if Tim Kaine had been able to run for re-election, he'd be losing too, 51-43. Nevertheless, 57% think that governors should be able to run for re-election in Virginia (which is the only state left that doesn't allow gubernatorial re-elections), with 35% opposed. Still, Kaine probably wouldn't be running anti-cap-and-trade ads as Deeds is doing in the state's southwest; with the public option already with the Deeds' bus treads all over it, it's one more reason for the Democratic base to lose interest in him.

CA-Sen: The war between movement conservative candidate Chuck DeVore and the NRSC just keeps building. DeVore is calling attention to a seemingly loose-lips quote from Carly Fiorina that "the chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee has encouraged me to enter the race, reaffirming my belief that Chuck DeVore cannot beat Barbara Boxer," which he says contradicts the NRSC's claim they haven't endorsed in the race. Of course, that's not really an endorsement per se, but his camp also claims that the NRSC has rebuffed his attempts to dialogue with them.

IA-Sen: Wealthy attorney and one-time Democratic gubernatorial candidate Roxanne Conlin seems to be moving closer to a matchup with Chuck Grassley. She's says she's "more likely than not" to step up. While Grassley would start out with the edge, it would push one more competitive race onto the map for 2010.

MA-Sen: Rep. Michael Capuano pulled down the endorsement of the state's biggest union in his Democratic primary bid in the special Senate election: the 107,000-member Massachusetts Teachers Association. Capuano has a 96% rating from the MTA's national affiliate, the National Education Association.

NV-Sen: Former Assemblywoman Sharron Angle has made it official: she's getting into the Nevada Senate race. She had sounded hesitant earlier, but she's emboldened either by her fundraising or by the general climate for conservative candidates right now to jump in. This sets up a confusing and potentially bloody 5-way primary in the Nevada GOP primary (although there's likely to be some field winnowing before then), and potentially, Angle could sneak through with, say, 33%, if she consolidates the hard-right/Club for Growth/teabagger vote (remember that she was the CfG's candidate in the open seat primary in NV-02 in 2006, where she barely lost to Dean Heller). With the opposition consisting of an establishment-backed but empty-suitish candidate in Sue Lowden, a random rich guy (John Chachas), a random name-recognition guy (Danny Tarkanian), and Mark Amodei as seemingly what passes for a moderate in the race, she seems likeliest to become the standard-bearer on the movement conservative right, especially if she somehow gets a CfG endorsement again. And the hard-right Angle would be a rather less imposing general election candidate for Harry Reid than, say, Lowden.

NY-Sen-B: Former Governor George Pataki seems to be taking note of polls showing him competitive with Kirsten Gillibrand in the Senate race, although he doesn't sound enthusiastic about it. His spokesperson tells the Daily News that he'll make a decision about the race in the coming weeks, but "friends" say that he's leaning toward "no."

UT-Sen: The name of Tim Bridgewater (the former Utah County GOP chair who's lost several primary elections) surfaced earlier in the year in connection with a GOP primary challenge to Bob Bennett in the Senate race, but faded away as AG Mark Shurtleff seemed to gobble up all the oxygen to Bennett's right. Suddenly, Bridgewater's back, saying he'll join the primary field.

GA-Gov: Rasmussen has another poll of the gubernatorial primaries in Georgia; the only news is that Thurbert Baker seems to be gaining on ex-gov Roy Barnes. Barnes still has a big lead on the Dem side at 43 (42 in August), followed by Baker at 19 (up from 9 in August), David Poythress at 4, Dubose Porter at 4, and Carl Camon at 3. On the GOP side, Insurance Comm. John Oxendine is in command at 27, with Karen Handel at 12, Nathan Deal at 9, and Eric Johnson, Ray McBerry, and Austin Scott all at 3.

IL-Gov: Rasmussen also looked at the Illinois governor's race, apparently as part of their IL-Sen sample from last week; since nobody seems to know who any of the Republicans are, they just ran a Generic D/Generic R ballot, which Generic D won, 43-36. Incumbent Dem Governor Pat Quinn clocks in with approvals that are much lower than any other pollster has seen, at 45/53.

ME-Gov (pdf): PPP polled the Maine governor's race as part of its poll on Question 1, and finds what R2K found a few weeks ago, which is that nobody has any idea what's going on. As with R2K, they found "not sure" dominating the head-to-heads and even the favorability questions. Unlike R2K, though, they found that moderate GOP state Sen. Peter Mills matches up well against the Dems, beating state Sen. President Libby Mitchell 34-31 and ex-AG Steve Rowe 33-25. Mitchell beats rich guy Les Otten 34-26, but Otten beats Rowe 28-26. Meanwhile, one more sorta-prominent Republican now says he's seriously considering the race: Steve Abbott, who's currently Susan Collins' chief of staff.

NJ-Gov: Two more polls split the difference between Jon Corzine and Chris Christie in New Jersey. Democracy Corps, who've usually been Corzine's most favorable pollster, finds a 3-point race, with Corzine at 42, Christie at 39, and Chris Daggett at 13. SurveyUSA, on the hand, has tended to lean toward Christie and continue to do so, giving him a 2-point lead, with Christie at 41, Corzine at 39, and Daggett at 19. Christie, for his part, is turning for help to the one Republican in New Jersey that most people still like: ex-Governor Tom Kean, who just cut a TV ad on Christie's behalf.

RI-Gov: Businessman Rory Smith has announced his candidacy on the Republican side for Rhode Island governor. Insiders are comparing him to current GOP Gov. Don Carcieri, who was also a little-known businessman before winning in 2002; unlike Carcieri, though, Smith is socially liberal. He may have the field to himself; little-known state Rep. Joe Trillo, who was viewed as the default frontrunner after former Senate candidate Stephen Laffey declined, recently said that he too is leaning against the race.

AK-AL: Trouble just keeps following Republican Rep. Don Young around, and there's more of it today. A retired oil industry exec from VECO, Bill Allen, told the Justice Department that his company gave paid for fundraising events for Young to the tune of $130K to $195K, and also gave gifts to Young which didn't get disclosed. This provides the first hard evidence linking Young to the same VECO scandal that took down Ted Stevens last year. Young has not been charged in the matter, although suspicion was cast his way in previous VECO-related testimony. Young, who narrowly won in 2008, faces another competitive race in 2010 (assuming he's still in office at that point) from Democratic state Rep. Harry Crawford.

IL-08: On the "some dude" front, businessman (and apparently, not the former Eagles guitarist) Joe Walsh (who ran unsuccessfully against Sidney Yates in the 9th back in the 90s) announced that he'll run against Melissa Bean in the 8th.

NY-23: Now that all the cool kids are endorsing Doug Hoffman, the floodgates are starting to open among the cognoscenti of the conservative movement: Rick Santorum endorsed, and so too did former presidential candidate Michael Steve Forbes. Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty, who seems like he's still trying to decide whether to be establishment or movement in 2012, has his finger in the air but said he'll probably endorsed and gave a clue by saying he had issues with the way Scozzafava got the nomination.

VA-05: Also on the "some dude" front, businessman and first-time candidate Ron Ferrin got into the overstuffed Republican field to go against freshman Rep. Tom Perriello. State Sen. Robert Hurt seems to have the inside track, though.

VA-St. House: One other worry for Democrats in Virginia is that Creigh Deeds' seeming negative coattails could cost them some seats in the state House of Delegates (where the GOP has a 53-43 edge, with 2 R-caucusing indies and 2 vacancies). Not Larry Sabato gives a preview of the hot races there, helpfully breaking it down into Tossup, Lean, and Likely for us. They see 2 GOP seats and 3 Dem seats as leaning toward takeovers, with 5 true tossups, but a strong McDonnell performance could push things more in the GOP direction.

Campaign Finance: Here's an interesting development on the campaign finance arena, although experts are still trying to sort out just what it means. The FEC won't appeal an appellate court decision that would allow outside groups to spend significantly more money on elections. The case was brought by EMILY's List; the decision allows them and other 527s to use soft money (in addition to hard money) to pay for ads and GOTV. The Obama administration's Solicitor General, Elena Kagen, however, can still appeal the case without the FEC's involvement.

2010: It sounds like some of the more timid members of the House Democrats were in need of a pep talk, so Chris Van Hollen of the DCCC sent around a memo with a nice list of bullet points on why 2010 won't be 1994.

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NY-23
I think you mean former presidential candidate Steve Forbes, not former New York congressman Michael Forbes.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

Heh
As DougNYC and Bill L. will attest, I'm pretty bad with first names.

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NY-Sen: Cornyn courting Pataki, Giuliani
NLS is pessimistic
I don't think Nichols or Bowling are leaning towards the Republicans, nor do I think the open 35th is going to be nearly that competitive. He also has the 10th on the list despite the Republican having run basically no campaign, and the 41st is on there just because he hates Dave Marsden.

My last update of the House races will probably be posted this weekend. I doubt much will change in the next week and a half.


When you do, please include
your assumptions how Deeds' performance (negative coattails as Crisitunity put it) affects your estimates, if at all.
I'm now thinking that just as the size of his big win in the primary was surprising, the size of his loss in the upcoming general may be surprising as well.
I'm just hoping the collateral damage in the Delegates races won't be too serious.

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Ri-Gov
Comparison of Smith to Carcieri is probably bad for Smith. It wouldn't surprise me if whoever the Democrats cough up turns to be as bad as Myrth York (the RI Democratic Party being both corrupt and incompetent), but I'll go out on a limb and say that despite recent history the next gov will be either Lincoln Chafee or a Democrat.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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GA GOV
Eric Johnson at 3 percent? Shows what a million dollars will get you...

NJ-Gov
National Journal wonders if Daggett can pull a Ventura.

http://www.nationaljournal.com...

I say no but the more there is talk the better for Corzine since it encourages people to actually vote for Daggett.


NY-Sen, Gov: What's the deal with Siena?
Are they a Republican pollster or just NY-based? It seems like every two weeks they release a poll touting Guiliani and Pataki. Almost as if they are trying to convince them to run. No other pollster is paying any attention to NY-Sen or NY-Gov.

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Sorry, I replied to the wrong thread


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New York based
Remember they are also the only firm to poll the special election other than Kos.

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Siena is a Catholic college
Outside of Albany.

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I would be more worried
about Hoffman winning NY-23; that is possible if GOP voters start to understand that Scozzafava is a loser.

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I don't think either is a slam dunk yet
Ask me again in a week. :)

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Not all bad
First of all, Hoffman hasn't really proven himself to be an electable candidate nor has he really campaigned that he can beat Owens.  Most of his schtick seems to be all about proving an ideological point and attacking the hell out of Scozzafava.  Plus, he will need to start doing some campaigning outside of friendly echo chambers if he wants to appeal to independents, the one group of voters who (besides Democrats) don't seem too thrilled with him.

Even if Hoffman were to win, it may help us out.  For starters, he'd have a huge target on his back and would force the NRCC to constantly spend resources defending him, and he could likely produce bad soundbites for the GOP caucus.  Secondly, it may embolden more Club for Growth types to take on other moderate GOPers, particularly in the Senate races where there's already a lot of resentment over the NRSC playing kingmaker to more moderate candidates (Crist, Norton, Kirk, and Ayotte all come to mind).  That will lead to more chaos on their side, and it won't replicate its success.  It's easy to catch lightning in a bottle when it's just one off-year race that has become the darling of national conservatives and allows activists to focus all their energies.  If it were to occur nationwide it will diffuse a lot of that energy but still cause undue heartburn for establishment Republicans.


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You're making some bad assumptions about Hoffman......
There's no reason to think Hoffman, if he pulls off the upset in the special, can't hold this seat with normal effort for an incumbent in a slight-GOP-leaning seat in a neutral-to-good year for his own party.

And there's no reason to think he'd embarrass the GOP House Caucus.

Hoffman as far as I can tell is a garden-variety conservative.  He's not said or done anything to prove himself a whack job on the level of Michele Bachmann or Steve King.  Yes a "garden-variety conservative" puts one out of today's American mainstream, but not on a level to be per se embarrassing.

A Hoffman win frankly is good for Republicans and conservatives, and bad for Democrats and liberals.  The whole DeDe fiasco would be forgotten as Hoffman immediately would caucus with the GOP and also make conservatives happy.

All that said, I think it's purely hypothetical.  Politico did a piece just today laying out the NRCC argument for DeDe against Hoffman, and it's all about electability.  Bottom line is the NRCC and its like-minded brethren see Hoffman as having too low a ceiling to be able to win a three-way, with DeDe's ceiling higher.  Now, that surely was true in the abstract in this swing district, but doesn't take into account the failure of the GOP candidate and campaign.  But that the RNC and NRCC insist on trying to prop up DeDe ultimately makes for an insurmountable obstacle for Hoffman and virtually ensures an Owens win.  And that makes me happy!

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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The NRCC has to prop up Dede
The implications of endorsing and spending so much resources on a campaign only to lose to a more conservative candidate would be a huge embarrassment for them, and would only continue the current meme that the national establishment GOP is out of touch with and unable to control its wingnut base.  They can't just ditch Dede either, as that would only be conceding the argument and would make the NRCC look like a finger-in-the-wind group that is willing to turn its back on the very people it recruits.  There's no way they'd be able to recruit strong candidates in the future if they could pull the rug out from underneath them.

And I don't think Hoffman would be an automatic re-election either.  This is still a district that Obama was able to carry, and even if (hypothetically) Hoffman were to win in 2010 I think he'd be in serious trouble by 2012 with both Obama and a US Senate race at the top of the ticket.  The turnout operation from Obama, not to mention a favored Democrat in the US Senate race (likely Gillibrand) would seriously depress turnout from Republicans and make him vulnerable.  He's tacked hard right for this election - and he'd likely face the "is he too conservative for the district?" question every election.  Plus, I think he will be a long-term liability.  He has rarely appeared out of friendly settings and controlled campaign appearances, and his dismal showing at the Watertown Daily News editorial board meeting shows he has little grasp of policy issues.  That's a recipe for saying stupid crap down the line and embarrassing yourself.  


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This is amusing
http://www.rasmussenreports.co...

I think partly the reason Rasmussen finds so many likey Republican voters is because they are impatient to vote while Dems aren't interested. They will be by this time next year when campaigns are in full swing. That and the fact he is a Republican himself and prone to inflate GOP performance generally, as has been proven on a number of occasions.


Rasmussen truly has become junk, sad because...
...they had been developing a nice little reputation for good election polling.

Even now their close-to-election day toplines are in line with everyone else, and therefore accurate.

But that they lie outright about what is the topline in their last couple NJ-Gov polls is embarrassingly bad, as are all the other polls they run with a combination of loaded questions and loaded sample selection and weighting.

I don't take anything they say seriously anymore short of the close-to-election day horse race data, and even then only the REAL data, not what they claim as in NJ-Gov.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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with the MOE in each survey
there is very little difference between SUSA's poll and the Democracy Corps polling. The point is Corzine is around 40% but these last two months, he has managed to pull down Christie's numbers to around 40% as well by going very negative against Christie's supposed strong points. I always look at SUSA very last poll (a couple of days before the election) since it has more often the not been very accurate. I suspect it will be the late deciders that will decide this election ... that's potentially good news if Democrats come home to Corzine or if Republicans stay home because of the negative ads.  

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Patrick Kenedy campaigned for Corzine today


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I am extremely worried about the VA state races
Not the GOV race. Deeds will lose it w/o any help.

I still do not understand why the bluedogs did not advise him.

My concern is that he will drag the local races down.


What do you mean when you say...
..."the bluedogs did not advise" Deeds?

Deeds has campaigned as if he DID take much of his advice from Blue Dogs.  He's been insufferably pathetic in doing so.  He spends too much time campaigning in Southside and the Shenandoah and other rural white areas where he can gain only very small margins in a very inefficient use of time.  He avoids talking about hot button issues at all until toward the end where he goes out of his way to piss off the Democratic base by announcing unpopular positions with the base--when he should have done that very early post-primary to let the anger die down or just kept his mouth shut to the end.  He has done little to rally base Democrats in the urban crescent besides small events with little media coverage and no buzz.

And set aside who ideologically is advising him, Deeds didn't set up his basic campaign infrastructure until late August.

He's been pathetic, and I'm not forgiving.

My only remaining investment and hope is in the Delegate races, where I hope the very excellent campaigns local Democrats in NoVA have run will prove resilient against the McDonnell tide.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Begich
From the Anchorage Daily News: The more serious news from Alaska is that the City of Anchorage with its new Republican Mayor is investigating former Mayor Begich hot and heavy.  The claim is that two city contracts were domehow influenced.  Since the city's "assembly" is officially non-partisan, I can only suspect that the one city legislator behind the witch hunt is a Republican.

The city attorney wants to look at every private e-mail Begich sent from August, 2008 through January 1, 2009.  Fishing expedition in Republican hands.  They are also pushing Begich associates hard.  Begich will only answer written questions at this point.  That sems like a very smart move on his part.  He has no lawyer and I don't think he is a lawyer so he's doing good on his own with common sense.

Can anyone here tell me why letting the convicted Ted Stevens go was the right move?  It was just seen as weakness.  


Because we don't let political perception override justice.
The prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence- that's a HUGE fuck up with direct implications about the integrity of the verdict. You can't just ignore that, no matter how much easier that would be on your political standing. C'mon, that's the kind of shit Gonzales' DoJ would pull.

Besides, the Anchorage Republicans would be pulling this exact same shit even if Stevens was in jail. Hell, probably even if Stevens was still in the SENATE.

They're just vindictive little shits, so we shouldn't let their fury psyche us out of doing the right thing.


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Common knowledge
Stevens was convicted, I think, on common knowledge as much as testimony and only the screw up by the prosecutors saved him.

He was guilty of far more serious misdeeds re: looting Katrina funding at the rate of $26,000 per trailer.  I really don't care if he got gree house repairs and cars.  It is the Katrina stuff, uncharged that gets me.  Who knows, it may have been "legal."  But it was dead wrong at the expense of the neediest and most helpless.


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Pataki
I wouldn't be surprised if Pataki didn't run in NY even if early (and so perhaps not entirely reliable) polls show him to be competitive.

There's a big difference between an executive position and a legislative one, and just because one won the former doesn't mean one would enjoy the latter. An executive gets to run things, but a legislator is one of many trying to turn policy into law. They are two very different jobs. NYC mayor Bloomberg is a good example of someone who likes running things but who probably would go nuts in a legislative capacity.

It's not enough to show you can win statewide; you also have to want the job you're running for. And maybe Pataki (or Giuliani for that matter) will decide he wants it. But it's not automatic.


Pawlenty's endorsement would
Be IMO the biggest for Hoffman, to date. It won't get the press clips the Palin endorsement did but Palin seems to want to be more identified with the conservative movement rather than the Republican party. Forbes is a relative nobody. But Pawlenty very much has a mainstream Republican persona and if a member of that group endorses Hoffman, I think that's big news.

I agree that he's mainstream...
...but he also has about 15% name recognition. Even Michelle Bachmann may have a higher number.

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I agree
But the winner of this race is kind of a secondary story. The primary story is how this race has become a proxy war between the GOP establishment and the Free Republic/Teabagger drowd and if someone like Pawlenty who is viewed as a member of that establishment aligns himself with the latter group it speaks volumes about the direction this party could be headed.

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Hoffman says to no to earmarks
And gets hit pretty hard by this article: http://www.watertowndailytimes...

Basically insinuating that Fort Drum might close under Hoffman.

Probably isn't going to help Hoffman much, other than to get more money from the CFG.



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