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SSP Daily Digest: 10/13

by: Crisitunity

Tue Oct 13, 2009 at 3:46 PM EDT


AZ-Sen: Does the persistent rumor of a J.D. Hayworth primary challenge to John McCain boil down to nothing more than a Hayworth grudge against former key McCain aide Mark Salter (and thus a way for Hayworth to keep yanking McCain's chain)? That's what the Arizona Republic is proposing, pointing to a 2005 dust-up between Hayworth and Salter over immigration reform. Hayworth, for his part, says that "spite" would never fuel a primary bid.

IL-Sen: GOP Rep. Mark Kirk is touting an internal poll taken for him by Magellan Data and Mapping Strategies that has him beating Democratic state Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias in a Senate head-to-head, 42-35. It also shows Kirk in strong shape in the primary, leading developer Patrick Hughes (who seems to be cornering the wingnut vote) 61-3.

KY-Sen: The allegedly third tape (although nobody seems to remember what the second one was) involving Lt. Gov. and Senate candidate Dan Mongiardo trashing his boss (and one of his few endorsers), Gov. Steve Beshear, has surfaced. This time, Mongiardo says people he talks to want to "yell" about Beshear and says, "It's like being married to a whore." This time it popped up directly on YouTube instead of on a Rand Paul fan blog.

NV-Sen: Markos has an interesting observation, that may give some comfort to the Reid boys as they face an onslaught of bad polls. Democrats now have a registration edge of nearly 100,000 in Nevada, and it's growing: since February, Dems have added 4,860 while the GOP has added 1,549. In fact, this sad performance puts the GOP fourth, as both nonpartisan registration and the right-wing Independent American Party gained more new registrants.

PA-Sen (pdf): One more poll from Dane & Associates via GrassrootsPA, and it gives narrow edges to both Arlen Specter and Joe Sestak over Republican ex-Rep. Pat Toomey in the 2010 Senate race (46-43 for Specter and 43-38 for Sestak). Worth noting: this is only the second poll (after that freaky Rasmussen poll in August) that shows Sestak performing better against Toomey than does Specter.

TX-Sen, Gov: Kay Bailey Hutchison may be getting some cold feet about committing to a resignation date from the Senate. In response to questions on a conservative radio talk show, it's sounding like she's unlikely to resign her seat by year's end. However, she also doesn't sound like she'll stay in her seat all the way through to the gubernatorial primary election in March, saying "that's not what [she wants] to do." (Although it's understandable she may want to keep her day job if the whole being-governor thing doesn't work out.)

NJ-Gov: PPP has its poll of the New Jersey gubernatorial race out, and like everyone else these days, they're seeing it as pure tossup. Chris Christie leads Jon Corzine 40-39, with 13 for independent Chris Daggett. (It's right in line with today's Pollster.com average of 41-40 for Christie.)That's tremendous progress for Corzine, who was down 44-35-13 last month. Also, it's worth noting that not only is Corzine dragging Christie down to his level but he's actually starting to improve his own favorables; he's up to 37/55, still terrible but better than last month's 32/60. The race will still depend on getting unlikely Dem voters to turn out; the likely voter pool went for Obama by only 4% last year, way off from the actual 15% margin. One last tidbit: the poll asks Daggett voters their second choice, and Christie wins that one 48-34 (suggesting that Daggett does more damage to Christie, but that Christie's best hope is to peel off some of the vacillating Daggett supporters).

VA-Gov: Not much change in Virginia, where Rasmussen finds a 50-43 lead for Republican Bob McDonnell in that gubernatorial race. (This is right in line with today's Pollster.com average of 51-43.) Two weeks ago, Rasmussen found that McD led Creigh Deeds 51-42.

FL-08: This seems kind of surprising, given freshman Rep. Alan Grayson's over-the-top invitations to rumble (or who knows... maybe being aggressive actually works to cow Republicans?). After a lot of public vacillating, it turns out that Republican former state Sen. Daniel Webster, considered the strongest contender to go up against Grayson, won't run. Rich guys Jerry Pierce and Armando Gutierrez Jr. are in the race, but the establishmenet Plan D (with Webster, state House speaker Larry Cretul, and Orange Co. Mayor Rich Crotty out) seems likely to fall to state Rep. Stephen Precourt, who expressed interest but said he'd defer to Webster.

NC-11: Looks like businessman Jeff Miller declined for a good reason yesterday, as the GOP nailed down a stronger-sounding competitor to go up against Rep. Heath Shuler in the R+6 11th. Greg Newman, the mayor of Hendersonville (pop. 10,000 in 2000) since 2005, says he'll take on Shuler.

SC-05: State Sen. Mick Mulvaney looks ready to launch his candidacy, most likely on the 17th at a GOP gathering in the district. He'll take on 27-year incumbent and House Budget chair John Spratt.

TN-St. House: There's a small House special election in Tennessee tonight, with big stakes. HD 62, located in rural south central Tennessee (its major town is Shelbyville) was vacated by a Democrat, Curt Cobb, who resigned to take a better-paying job; Cobb's brother Ty is facing off against Republican Pat Marsh. It's GOP leaning territory, though (this is part of the 6th CD, which had a very sharp Democratic falloff in 2008). The stakes are high because the Democrats hold the chamber by a 1-vote margin, 50-49, thanks only to a power-sharing arrangement with renegade Republican Kent Williams who serves as the Speaker elected with Democratic votes. A Republican victory here could give control of the House back to the GOP, if they're able to reorganize in midterm. If the Republicans can control the state House and pick up the governor's office in 2010, they'll control the resdistricting trifecta.

Mayors: One other election on the docket in Tennessee tonight Thursday: Shelby Co. Mayor A.C. Wharton is looking likely to become the new mayor in Memphis. Polling has him leading Mayor Pro Tem Myron Lowery by a wide margin. (There are 25 candidates in the race, including professional wrestler Jerry Lawler.) The mayoral job was vacated, of course, by long-time mayor Willie Herenton, who after several abortive attempts to resign in the past is leaving to challenge Rep. Steve Cohen in a primary.

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Obama could really blow the doors open
For Corzine when he visits. And of course the better Daggett does the more Christie hurts. The shock endorsement really helps with that. Will there be another debate?

10/16 is the second and final NJ debate
I agree that the Obama visit is necessary for a Corzine win. If he can just shore up about 80% of Dems as opposed to the 70%-ish he generally is at the moment, he should be able to pull this off. It seems like Indies are more torn between Christie and Daggett, so this is all about Dem GOTV on Corzine's part.

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There's actually going to be a third debate
But it will only be broadcast on the radio. It's about a week after the second one, and all three candidates are participating.

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I wonder if they're doing like that since over the radio
Christie isn't risking that people are reminded how fat he is?

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An Obama "talking head" ad would likely help
But the bottom line is that if the Democratic machine can produce 3-4% "unlikely" voters, Corzine can walk away with the race.

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Must be coming
The WH knows how important this is. And it isn't even a risk really more like a slam dunk IMO.

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I wouldn't call it a slam dunk.
In particular, independent candidates have a way of fading once voters face an actual ballot.  Franken/Coleman/Barkley was a notable exception, and this race has obvious parallels to that one, but I still wouldn't be shocked to see Daggett fall back to 8% or so on election day, with Christie winning most of the defectors and the election.

The countervailing force will be the Dem machine, Corzine's money, and Obama's actions.  Here's hoping that all three come through in a big way.

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


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Slam dunk
If Obama goes in big.

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Best/worst case scenarios for Corzine...
This is how I see it...

BCS:
Corzine - 46%
Christie - 36%
Daggett - 18%

Obama gives it his all for Corzine, whether that means holding a massive rally, touring the state for the day with him, or both; as a result, he wins 85-90% of Dems. As a bonus, Daggett's ballot placement doesn't hurt him after all and he's able to keep Christie under 75% among Republicans.

WCS:
Christie - 46%
Corzine - 42%
Daggett - 12%

Obama doesn't make a valiant effort (if any at all) on behalf of Corzine, and he's only able to hold about 70-75% of Dems. Worse, Daggett doesn't deliver come election day, instead bleeding his anti-Corzine votes to Christie.

What I currently expect:
Christie - 44%
Corzine - 43%
Daggett - 13%

Obama does stump for Corzine, and it helps to shore up the Dem base. However, polls overestimate Daggett, and Christie scores a double-digit victory among non-affiliateds.

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I would flip your final Christie/Corzine numbers (and hence the victor)
But basically I agree with your bottom line assessment.  This is all about Democratic turnout and Daggett's election day strength.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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Worst case scenario is us winning by a point?
Not true...

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Er
There is only one best and one worst case scenario IMO. The margin doesn't matter at all.

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Not worst case scenario
I meant the most likely scenario (i.e., Corzine by a point).

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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Ty Cobb?
Really?

Well, I suppose you might pick up some undecided voters who are baseball fans.


Now there's a dog whistle if I've ever heard one
At least given the reports of (baseball player) Ty Cobb's history of racism.

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What's even more fun
Is that there is already a Dem Ty Cobb (District 64) in the TN House.  This would be the second.

28, male, NC-13 formerly NC-01, 04, 05, 07, 11

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Whatever the name
The dude got spanked -- more bad news out of Tennessee.

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TX-Gov: Is KBH still serious about running for Gov anymore?
If Kay Bailey Hutchison were, she'd have resigned from the Senate a while back in order to campaign in Texas 24/7. And not hanging around in DC.
Plus, reading between the lines of that linked interview, she seems not likely to be resigning before the Repub primary.

Too bad, it would have been nice to have an open seat contest in Texas.


From what I understand...
...she doesn't want to officially resign until the health care debate is settled.  

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Cold feet?
I think she still wants to run, but she's less confident than before in her ability to beat Perry in the primary. If she loses the primary, she doesn't want to be left out in the cold without her seat in the Senate.  

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She Oughtta Be MORE Confident
Not that it's a slam dunk, but between Perry's stupid economy comments and his death penalty shenanigans, there's a lot of room to run against him.

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SC-05
I forgot to post this before, but Campaign Diaries had a link to an interesting article on the Palmetto Scoop suggesting that Spratt may be planning to retire in 2012 and that Mulvaney is only running in 2010 to make a claim at being the first in line for the GOP nomination when the seat is open. Interesting speculation, though it doesn't really offer any evidence that Spratt is actually planning on retiring then.

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

How is reapportionment supposed to affect South Carolina?
Which party will control redistricting?  Which party controlled it in 2000?

I don't know the answers, but those three questions should tell us if Spratt has firm retirement plans or not.

Because if he's not going to be drawn out, it seems like he'd stay around; he's second in line at Armed Services, and Ike Skelton is old, ain't he?

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


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Not too good
The estimate I've heard is that SC will pick up an additional seat. As for redistricting, according to FairVote.com the legislature has the primary role in redistricting. There was a Republican majority in both houses in 2001, and their majority has only expanded since then.

I'd point out that 2012 would probably be the most advantageous time for him to retire, as additional turnout from the presidential election would probably benefit the Dem nominee. That's assuming the substantial black population of SC-05 isn't drawn out of the district after 2010, though.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09


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The Legislature controls the process pretty much...
They will most likely try to assure the new seat is a GOP pickup.  In doing so, they will leave Spratt alone or shore him up.  

There are some pragmatists that control the process that realize having the Budget chairman is positive for the state.  Spratt MIGHT retire, but not because of redirecting,IMO.  


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This was always why
Id get really annoyed when people tried to draw Rep. Peterson out of his district when they'd do their own redistricting of MN.  I think it'd be a safe assumption that every person in MN agrees that having the chairman of Agriculture Committee being a member of Minnesota's delegation is one giant bonus and trying to oust him would be a dumb idea for Minnesotans.

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Good point
I forgot that was the chairmanship Spratt has. I wouldn't want to lose that, either.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

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Memphis correction
the election is on Thursday, not today

Thanks
Why a Thursday election? Usually if an election isn't on Tuesday, it's on Saturday, which is good as far as promoting turnout, but Thursday makes no sense.

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Always a Thursday in the UK
I have no idea why.  

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lots of Thursday elections in Tennessee
the August primaries are in August, for one

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A Swing State Project - Special Election Project
Those of us activists that are invested on this level - SSP ought to work with state parties to organize virtual phonebanks to support our standardbearer in races like todays very important special in TN.  We've had several specials where a few hundred to a few thousand calls virtually by activists like us when we can could make the difference.

Several campaigns do do this
But only races on larger scales.  I bet a lot of smaller races dont even have the capacity and manpower to set this up for us to do.  Unfortunate but true, :(  Although I do love all the stories I hear on this blog about northerns phone banking into the South and getting comments on their accents!

If we do end up with a TX-Sen special, I have no doubt White will have virtual phone banking and Id hope every netrooter commits at least an hour to it.  What a giant fucking slap in the face to win Texas!


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PPP NJ-Gov poll
The biggest single undecided demographic is women. No wonder they are pushing the mammogram issue.

Important addendum on FL-08
Precourt has already said he will NOT run.

What's up with Milkulski?
Milford Sound in New Zealand

Is she technically a little person?  She doesnt even reach Gillibrand's shoulders and Gillibrand is only like 5'2 IIRC.  I always knew Milkulski was a munchkin (a powerful munchkin), but hot damn!  She's probably the most powerful person under 5-foot in the world!


Kim Jong Il?


Male, 23, DC-At Large

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Danny DeVito?


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I think she's 4'10"
Although Google is turning up 4'11" as her listed height.

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Boxer too is 4'11.
When she gives speeches, she stands on a "Boxer Box". And despite her small stature, she is big in the Senate, being one of the most outspoken liberals along with Ted Kennedy and Russ Feingold.

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Barbara Boxer
She is the same height as Mikulski I believe.  

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Yes she is.
She stands on a "Boxer Box" when giving speeches.

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Snowe
Sens: Snowe's healthcare vote puts her top Commerce perch at risk
Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine) is risking a shot at becoming the top Republican on an influential Senate committee by backing Democratic healthcare legislation, according to senators on the panel.
A Senate Democrat on the Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee said Republicans on the panel are threatening to vote against Snowe, who is in line for the senior GOP post that is about to come open.
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (Texas), the senior Republican on Commerce, is preparing to leave the chamber to run for governor in the coming weeks.
The Republicans on Commerce will pick Hutchison's replacement, with the entire conference ratifying that decision. Seniority is usually the most important consideration, but party loyalty could trump that.
I's bet that if the Repubs do punish Snowe like that, it would be her signal to leave them, and caucus with the Democrats as an independent, (probably more likely than her completely switching parties)

If she changes parties
I hope she brings Collins with her.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

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Check the front page of MSNBC
"Another GOP Senator Open to Health Overhaul", its Collins.  Monkey see, monkey do.  

If Snowe switches Collins would probably be quite compelled to switch as hell.  She's a bit more conservative but she does everything Snowe does.  When Snowe voted for the torture legislation last year and didnt tell Collins, thus causing Collins to vote the other way from Snowe, she was PISSED.


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God, I knew we called them the "Maine Twins"
But this is just ridiculous!

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

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Quote of the day
Paul Mulshine is probably the best columnist at the Star-Ledger, the main newspaper in New Jersey. Although he's the resident conservative columnist, his writing style is punchy and engaging, while his arguments are usually pretty thoughtful. Mulshine is an old-style conservative, leaning towards pragmatic libertarianism and conspicuously non-Bible-thumping. In any case, the fact that he typically dislikes both the Democrat and the Republican in an election makes his analysis of a race pretty accurate and unbiased in favor of one or the other.

Today's column sums up the governor's race extremely well, and I highly recommend you click here to read it.

Mulshine also hits the nail on the head with this quote:

So much for the major-party candidates. I have yet to meet a voter who has offered any motivation for supporting one except for the prospect of keeping the other out of office.


NJ GOV
Christie's Expenses Questioned
Chris Christie (R), "who has campaigned on a platform of ethical integrity and cutting government waste, regularly spent beyond federal guidelines on business travel while U.S. attorney," the AP reports.

Newly released travel records show that Christie "occasionally billed taxpayers more than $400 a night for stays in luxury hotels and exceeded the government's hotel allowance on 14 of 16 business trips he took in 2008."

That's according to politicalwire.com

Shocked noone has posted this on here yet.   More of Christie throwing his weight around....  Too bad we can't get one of the for McDonnall.


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I take it he spent it on food


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What's Christie's favorite conservative fast-food eatery?
McDonnell's. Heh. I can do Scozza-fava bean jokes too.

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Mike Huckabee would be proud
The question is, can he eat at Taco Bell for seven dollars?

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I read that earlier
Frankly, I wasn't surprised at all. Christie's not the first politician to pull this kind of stuff, and he won't be the last. Ultimately this just fits in with his pattern of sleaze.

So I guess this means the U.S. Attorney's Office finally released Christie's travel, expense, etc. records. The Corzine requested their release under FOIA back in the springtime, and has been accusing the U.S. Attorney's Office of "stonewalling" them ever since. Acting U.S. Attorney Ralph Marra (since replaced by Obama's pick, Paul Fishman) protested, saying there's no stonewalling, Corzine just asked for a lot of damn records.  


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State House Special Elections TN & OK
Looks like the Republicans are set to pick up both Democratic seats.

From the Tennessee Sec. of State:
Pat Marsh (R): 3405
Ty Cobb (D): 2739
Christopher T. Brown (I): 158

Good news: Republicans can't elect a new Speaker.
Bad news: Republicans have a clearer majority in the House.

From the Oklahoma Election Board with 51 percent reporting:
Todd Russ (R): 1752
Larry W. Peck (D): 1238

Republicans will increase their majority to 62.


More Results
TN:
Marsh: 3705
Cobb: 2942
Brown: 177

OK with 60 percent reporting:
Russ: 1783
Peck: 1260


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Update

Pat Marsh (R): 4208
Ty Cobb II (D): 3261
Christopher T. Brown (I): 222

TN State House Special Election results

http://tnsos.org/elections/Res...

TODD RUSS (R): 2,235  
LARRY W. PECK (D) 1,779

OK State House Special Election results

http://www.ok.gov/~elections/s...


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TN Rep Pick up
TN:
Marsh: 4931
Cobb: 3663
Brown: 255

Absentee, early vote, and all precincts have reported in Tennessee.


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OK Rep Pick Up
97 percent or 34 of 35 precincts reporting:
Russ: 2846
Peck: 2265

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Pathetic
Both these State Democratic Parties suck. Total collapse in both states over the past 3 years compared to gains across the rest of the country. Pretty sad.

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Then comes this from Virginia
From Not Larry Sabato:
I want to be blunt.  The analogy to the Democrats current situation in the House of Delegates is a hospital ward.  The Democratic Caucus is trying to decide now who gets left in the hallway to die and who they will try to save.

Because of a couple pick-up opportunities the toll could be as low as a one seat GOP pickup.  It could be as high as an eleven seat GOP pickup.



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Where is the DLCC on this?
Tennessee and Virginia have critical redistricting going on for 2012 and in order for us to get what we want out of that or just hold serve by protecting our incumbents (fine by me) we need to pay attention to special elections like the one in TN tonight and the general election for VA in a few weeks. Otherwise we'll let Republican draw out up to 4 Democratic Congressional Reps in 2012 for these two states alone. I don't like abandoning any state especially states where we currently have control or are within striking distance (who ever thought we win control of NH's legislature?).  

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maybe

The comments left are rather skeptical of that after going through their lists of vulnerable seats.

Deeds is polling 43% (as are the other Democrats running for office statewide, with slight variations).  The Virginia House of Delegates has 105 members, and 43% of that is 45 seats.  Which is just what Virginia Democrats happen to have in the chamber.  The lower House tends to reflect the popular vote split in most competitive states rather closely, so I'm inclined to side with the skeptics.

That's the worst case scenario.  The Virginia electorate is a lot closer to 50/50 split than that, and sorting out, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are actually a few 'surprise' D pickups.


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Ignore him
NLS is a hysterical drama queen who's been bitter about the primary since June. He's already started pushing the "we should have nominated McAuliffe" spiel.

Republicans at best (running the board on close races, which never happens) could win a net 5 seats in Virginia, not 11.


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Agree wholeheartedly
But hey, I guess rural Oklahomans like candidates who say stuff like this:

I will stand  for Godly values and Godly leadership in government.  We as citizens have let government take prayer out of our schools, take the Ten Commandments out of our capitols, and they continue to tell us as Christians to be quiet about our fundamental beliefs.  Our  Christian values are the very things that have made our state and nation so great.

From new State Rep.-elect Todd Russ's website.


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TN
The TN House is now a complete mess.  So, every ruling the Speaker makes can be overturned by the "minority?"  How is this going to work?  Can the GOP pass resolutions to replace committee chairs?  Can the GOP replace entire bills the Speaker brings to the floor via amendment?  Has this happened elsewhere?

Libertarian secular Republican, MO-7

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Every legislative chamber I'm familiar with
has a means to vacate the Speaker's chair. Of course, there are ways to obstruct that. . .

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There is still a vacancy in the TN House
Republican state Rep. Brian Kelsey resigned so he could focus on running in the special election to replace Paul Stanley, the state senator who resigned after revealing that he had an affair with an intern (which he announced publicly after the intern's boyfriend tried to extort money from him...a la David Letterman). According to this article, the district is at least the fifth-most Republican state house districts in the state, which very likely means that this is an easy Republican hold, but at the very least, before any speaker machinations go down, both parties would likely prefer to get this other special election (special primary on December 1, special general on January 10) out of the way first. However, from what I've read, the current speaker sounds safe. The Republican caucus chair in the state house said that they aren't able to challenge the speakership.

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meh
That can't be our excuse. You can't tell me that there aren't people in rural Oklahoma who like things like, sex, free speech, not being forced to go to church, not being forced to pray, etc... We probably just had a lackluster candidate who thought he could win because the seat was held by a Democrat. He was probably too afraid to take any positions for fear of being seen as "too liberal," which I think is an overhyped fear, since people like candidates who actually stand for something; trying to be a moderate allows your opponent to stand for something while you just sit and twiddle your thumbs.

Also, I agree with an earlier poster who wishes we would've gotten involved in some way. We need to start scouring the state BOE websites weeks and months in advance checking for special elections. We can't wait around for the DNC to give any sort of guidance on this because they might not be aware of the situation as much as we are.

21, Male, Democrat, MD-02 (home/registered), MD-05 (college)


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People from Oklahoma City and Tulsa too
I'm not surprised we lost this one. Even though there are more registered Democrats than Republicans, this state is gone, gone, gone for Democrats.  

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Exactly
After 2010, the Oklahoma Democratic Party will be a shell of its former self.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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While this sounds really callous
Im okay with that.  Oklahoma isnt a state with a shred of liberalism and its ideology doesnt fit into the modern day Democratic Party.  Im fine with admitting to defeat where defeat is imminent.

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yup
But you forget, these are conservative Southern Democrat parties.  They're a different species, and that species is in rapid decline.  As far as I can tell, the rationale for how they've lasted so long had to do with Republican policies and behavior leading to racial violence.  Now that that's a relatively minor danger, and with a Democratic government in Washington that can/will intervene in the worst cases, that rationale is fading away.

I expect Republican trifectas in Wyoming, Kansas, Oklahoma and Tennessee next year.  Probably joining them, Louisiana.  And there's no real telling where things go in Mississippi and Alabama.  (I'd guess the Mississippi state Senate finally goes Republican for keeps, and the majorities in Alabama shrink.)  And when Republicans reemerge in Arkansas is a good question; state Democrats probably peaked there in '08.

Those state Democratic Parties will then have to rebuild, and this time they will have and have to rely on liberal/progressive wings.  


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I don't think we should just role over
Because if we do we are bound to get more of Republicans like this or the Tennessee GOP folks who used racism in a disgusting way to try and defeat Obama last year. Being from GA, I really feel for the poor people in rural districts like the two we lost last night in TN and OK and I think it's unacceptable to let anyone be hopelessly represented by a radical right-wing Republican because I feel for these people's best interest and it pisses me off that their economic situations are ignorned in favor of race-baiting tactics of the lowest order. If a Democrat can win and change people's perspective on what it means to be a Democrat even on one issue than it's worth it to try because eventually that can mean a better chance at a progressive victory rather than having no history of electing Democrats ever or all the old Democrats being replaced by right wing Republicans.

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For what it's worth
the Republican who won in Tennessee last night apparently supports embryonic stem-cell research and sounds like he might even be pro-choice. Honestly, from what I skimmed on the race, the Democrat sounded like the more conservative candidate. So fortunately, this district is probably spared from being represented by a wingnut.

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Sure but what happens to us in redistricting?
The last thing we need is three more clones of Marsha Blackburn in Congress and that's exactly what could happen if the GOP controls redistricting through gaining ground in the legislature and winning the governor's mansion while national Democrats shrug their shoulders at "Tennessee Democrats" like they're some inferior being.  

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Inevitable
Republicans picked up seats in both houses of the legislature in 2008. It seems highly unlikely that they're going to be able to stop the bleeding next year.

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I was moreso agreeing with your larger point
while showing that this instance was an exception to your smaller point. No one wants three more Marsha Blackburns.

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Goyle
May not have been over-hyped at all.

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CO Sen, CO-07
Senate Candidate Ryan Frazier is expected to announce soon he will drop out, and run against Ed Perlmutter in the 7th district. http://coloradoindependent.com...
Frazier has $127,000 in his senate campaign, but he has not reported for the 3rd quarter yet, and he could use that money for a house campaign. Perlmutter has $816,000 in the bank

Good luck with that


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Waiting polls for VT-Gov, RI-Gov and AK-Gov races
No-one will poll this races?

I think can be interesting know the results of first polls for these races. Im interested.


Alaska
after the fiasco that the polling for Begich/Stevens was, I don't know why anyone would want to see actual polls in Alaska again.

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More movement to Corzine
Quinnipiac down to 41-40 Christie from 43-39 two weeks ago.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x128...


This poll is interesting...
Unlike other recent polls, it has Corzine actually closing among Independents, but bleeding nearly 30% of Dems. Christie still prevails among Daggett supporters' second-choice though, and with this poll highlighting a real enthuasiasm problem even on Daggett's side, that could be a real factor.

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Tom Jensen sent along some area code breakdowns
for NJ. If you put an area code map in front of you, you can see how this might be useful (though NJ area codes seem a bit. . .gerrymandered frankly). The deal is that Corzine is surprisingly strong in south Jersey but getting killed in Central Jersey.

        Christie, Corzine, Daggett
(201) 40             47         7
(609) 41             35        17(!)
(732) 45             33        14
(856) 34             45        12
(908) 38             41        16
(973) 36             41         9

My takeaway: target Trenton, Princeton, and Atlantic City.  


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Interesting
Democratic New Brunswick must be swamped by the Jersey shore area in 732.  I'm also interested in what Princeton does.  I can't imagine it's amenable to Christie, but I can see a high Daggett vote from well-educated, well-heeled liberals who can't stomach Corzine.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

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The last genuinely close race in NJ
is here. Since then, Ocean county has ballooned and gotten more Republican.  

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Scozzafava running out of money
and Owens outspending her on television 12-1.  So says Politico: http://www.politico.com/news/s...

Also, Rothenberg changes rating to Toss-Up / Tilt Democratic
http://rothenbergpoliticalrepo...

Does anyone know when the next poll of this race will come out?


So says my diary too!
:)

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saw that after i posted n/t


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Well, it was important
I liked reading it again!

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PA-Sen: Specter up 1
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/...

This race should NOT be a dead heat, but if our nominee is Specter, I imagine it will be. Heck, Toomey will probably win, because Specter isn't popular among Indies anymore.

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Toomey win?
I'll believe that if I see it. I don't think so. He's too extremist for PA.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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