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California Demographic Tidal Wave Building

by: Crisitunity

Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 8:20 PM EDT


There's suddenly been a lot of discussion of the Republican-held districts in California being the next big treasure trove of Democratic pickups in the House, surprising considering that California has a very bifurcated political geography and, on top of that, one of the most aggressively pro-incumbent gerrymanders. This started with a study published by the California Target Book showing precipitously declining GOP registrations, and continued with the DCCC's announcement that it would go big in 2010 in the eight districts where Obama won that are still occupied by House Republicans.

For instance, CA-26 has shown a drop in the GOP's registration edge from 2002 to 2008 from 11% to 6%, CA-45 has seen a similar drop from 11% to 4%, and perhaps most out of left field, Buck McKeon's CA-25 has dropped from 9% to 1%. In CA-03 (where Dan Lungren barely escaped in 2008), it dropped from 11% to 2%, and in CA-44 (where Ken Calvert escaped even more narrowly), it dropped from 16% to 7%.

What's driving these changing registrations? Is it just ticked-off moderates realizing that something's amiss with today's GOP and changing teams? I'm sure there's some of that happening, but that can't by itself explain the size of those numbers. What's driving this seems to be the changing demographics of who's moving into and out of these districts. With the GOP's declining fortunes among Latino and Asian voters (fueled by the GOP's own self-defeating hardline extremism on the immigration issue), it can't help that those are where most of the growth is happening in most of these districts.

While the magnitude of the demographic sea change in California isn't as great as the non-white growth in Texas (which I wrote about prior to the 2008 election), it's still impressive to see. This chart details the changes in each group from the 2000 census to the 2007 estimate, for each House district that's held by the Republicans. ('White' means non-Hispanic white.)

DistrictRep.Kerry
%
Obama
%
Total
gain
White
gain
Af.-Am.
gain
Asian
gain
Hispanic
gain
CA-02Herger374367,02127,7161,3375,80529,851
CA-03Lungren4149146,16045,01020,39138,47744,250
CA-04McClintock3744112,41962,7243,83918,39825,547
CA-19Radanovich3846101,94920,8749,4368,59666,772
CA-21Nunes3442108,7256,9811,40511,33488,698
CA-22McCarthy3138128,4497,54616,8226,94296,609
CA-24Gallegly435144,034- 9,600- 1,4137,75049,124
CA-25McKeon4050143,246- 26,23625,30015,935119,934
CA-26Dreier445151,417- 14,604- 1,49126,62547,452
CA-40Royce394729,403- 43,0835,83723,99248,880
CA-41Lewis3744136,950- 73416,19616,845107,741
CA-42G. Miller374547,896- 4,641- 1,39715,71946,613
CA-44Calvert4050198,95935,18312,63219,101126,396
CA-45Bono Mack4352225,02050,88213,58118,181135,086
CA-46Rohrabacher424816,612- 18,7822,46423,49612,397
CA-48Campbell404978,7122,2734,32745,26431,105
CA-49Issa3645132,03732,7522,98120,12276,245
CA-50Bilbray445168,85110,98799222,03835,297
CA-52Hunter384521,746- 16,4401,42412,63520,083

Bear in mind that not all of the Latino persons listed here are able to vote, either because they aren't citizens or are too young, so this is more of a time-bomb in some districts, like the ones in the mostly-agricultural Central Valley. Case in point is CA-21, which (along with CA-45) is the only of these districts to have moved into an outright Latino plurality this decade, but is still one of the most Republican districts in the state.

On the other hand, some of the more suburban districts, like CA-44 and CA-45 in Riverside County, are poised to flip pretty soon (although these are two of the most hard-hit districts anywhere by the foreclosure crisis and the collapse of the construction industry, so it'll require a lot of watching in these districts to see who stays and who goes). And even more surprisingly, CA-25 is zooming in our direction, at least demographically, making the drop to a 1% GOP registration edge maybe not that unexpected. (There's only one district that seems to be bucking this overall trend, where most of the growth is white, and that's CA-04... oddly enough, the district of all these where we came closest in 2008 to picking up the House seat, although the circumstances there were unusual.)

As in Texas, these changes aren't going to happen overnight. But in the red parts of California, as with Texas, in the next decade, we're either going to see a GOP that changes its message (and, well, everything else) to appeal to a more diverse America, or that starts hemmorhaging seats in its once-red strongholds.

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CA50
is bedrock Republican. It has not changed a lot in spite of some of the posts I have seen here.
I live in CA-50.
Short of a Tsunami or an Obama type candidate, Bilbray will be here in near future.

I am not sure how CA-50 can be redrawn to oust him.


so Leibham can get 45%
herck Busby can get 45% and its bedrock Republican?

It could ratehr easily be changed by swapping some territory with Susan Davis' overwhelmingly Democratic district making two 59-40 Obama San Diego Democratic districts.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus


[ Parent ]
What part of the district are you from, btw?


[ Parent ]
"It has not changed"
Even though Hispanic growth has been triple and Asian growth double the white population growth? Latinos in CA voted 74% for Obama and Asians 64%, while whites voted for him 52%. How could this not have changed the electoral composition of the district?

[ Parent ]
growth in CA-50 or just CA at large?


party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
Optimally, we'd win about 6 of those seats
and just shore them up the next year.  

Doubt we can get six...
But we can probably motivate youth to get active and fight against the same powers that worked to pass prop 8.  Take revenge any way you can, that's how I roll.  No matter how many we get, we should be able to gerrymander everything enough to gain six.  

[ Parent ]
And Bilbray is moderate by
Republican standards. He will not have a great deal of problem slightly modifying his stance to retain his seat.
Something like a west coast Peter King.
His district is less threatened by democratic enrollment.

Anybody who thinks CA-50 can be redrawn, please let me know you will do it.


I can't tell if you're being serious here.
He wrote a law that would deprive all sanctuary cities (such as San Diego) of anti-terrorism funding. He's anti-choice, an anti-immigration demagogue, and a consistent vote for the right-wing agenda. If he's "moderate" then who the hell isn't? Michelle Bachmann?

As for how to redraw it, simple. Add the rest of La Jolla.


[ Parent ]
well he's pro stem cell resrach
and supported raising the minimum wage or some crap like that. I think he's supposed to be nominally pro-choice.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

[ Parent ]
Okay, you got me on stem cell research.
But on everything else, the man toes the party line. He's also a member of the Republican Study Committee.  

[ Parent ]
i know, he's really not moderate
but he's not as batshit conservative as the San Diego republican grassroots which is why they hate him for some reason.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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I suppose.
Though really I'm having a bit of trouble imagining the orange housewives that make up half the SDRP get interested enough in politics to actually hate him. Though I can definitively the other nutjob evangelical half hating him.

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and the immigration people
don't like him for some reason, we saw this three years ago in the special election.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

[ Parent ]
Well I'm sure they like him now
that he's Lou Dobbs go-to Congressman for anti-immigrant rants.

[ Parent ]
Wikipedia
Lists Bilbray as being a pro-choice Republican but obviously they arent the best source on everything.

[ Parent ]
Nominally pro-choice.
Which means he goes "Yeah, sure I guess sometimes it's OK" and then votes the anti-choice position every time anything related to abortion comes up.

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The list is baloney
Most of them are nominal pro-choicers.  They claim they are pro-choice but in reality vote for any and all restrictions on abortion.

[ Parent ]
Bilbary's moderacy didn't stop him
from losing to Susan Davis in 2000 but he's a loon on some issues, like immigration and he's stuck with the hardcore conservative line pretty much so far, even voting against SCHIP.

But his moderacy helps us actually, hardcore conservatives in the area hate him and still don't trust him.

Like I've said before he actually represents a district that could be rather easily gerrymandered, we'd just need to do a little swapping and mix matching with his and Susan Davis' districts.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus


[ Parent ]
Bilbray had a more
moderate record in his 1994-2000 stint in the House, when his district then covered mostly territory that's in Susan Davis's district now. Now he's in more Republican-favorable territory further north with very little overlap, and his voting record is significantly more conservative as a result. (He does do a few moderate things, but they're things a lot of the other hard-right SoCal representatives in districts that are more upper-middle-class libertarian (with few culture-warriors) support too, like stem-cell research, which, say, Rohrabacher and Campbell support.) So you gotta wonder whether the moderatism then was an act, or the conservatism now? At any rate, some of the older local GOP members probably remember Bilbray 1.0 and still hold a grudge.

CA-50 is really archetypal of those suburban districts in California and Florida which are increasingly willing to vote Democratic at the national level but where we just can't seem to catch a break downticket, largely because we don't have a bench and there's just no long-standing local tradition of voting Democratic (or local tradition period, because nobody lived there 25 years ago). These districts are really the flipside of the districts in Appalachia and southern uplands that keep moving away from us at the presidential level but are happy to keep electing Blue Dog Dems downticket, because the bench is huge and that's just what they've always done.


[ Parent ]
We saw the same thing in Suburban Philadelphia
for a while. The Democratic Presidential nominee won the collar counties four elections in a row (after not having won them since 1964), but it took until 2006 before we picked up a majority (all but one, actually) of the corresponding Congressional seats.


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Awesome
That's a great analysis in that last paragraph with downballot vs presidential voting.

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CA-50
is surrounded by CA-49 and CA-52 which are also Republican strongholds - particularly CA52.

Actually, Cunningham's departure was a huge improvement for us.

I have seen several post about a Busby victory - a mare's nest at the very best. Issa is wealthy, has many democratic supporters (he has gone to the mat for San Diego telcoms) and good looking (it matters even if you do not like it). It will take a huge effort to unseat him. Only then we can talk about unseating Bilbray.


...
I have seen several post about a Busby victory

Where? Cough up a few links, if you can. Thanks.


[ Parent ]
I admit
I made such a post, using an article from the San Diego Union-Tribune. http://californianintexas.blog...

My blog
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[ Parent ]
But that was three years ago
FC seems to be addressing posts of a more recent vintage on SSP hyping Busby's chances for 2010... which I have not really seen to any great degree here. Indeed, in our extremely ambivalent post announcing Busby's candidacy earlier this week, most of the reaction was pretty negative against Busby in the comments section.

[ Parent ]
I do not
know how to negotiate these pages. So I cannot find them. Somebody who worked on Busby's campaign posted against Bilbray (one for Busby and another for Leibham). I wrote at the time that Bilbray will not lose. I have voted against him 3 times in less than 2 yrs. And he won all 3 times.

I wrote that Bilbray is moderate by Republican standards. That does not make him a moderate although the pundits may fail to realise it.

He supports stem-cell research and is nominally pro-choice. Probably supports minmum wage hike. A huge improvement over Cunningham. If it is necessary, he will make incremental changes to his positions on a lot of issues to retain his seat. He is politically savvy and that makes it very hard to beat him.

Issa worked hard for many large San diego businesses (Qualcomm in particular) in congress and some of his donors are democrats.

Bilbray also has a following among white collar suburbanites who often vote for Obama.

As for the increase in Asian population in Southern Cal, I think The Vietnamese and the Pakistanis vote republican. Ditto a majority of Chinese and Koreans. Only the Indians and the Japanese vote democratic consistently. But there are too few of them.


[ Parent ]
Castle and Cao are moderate by Republican standards.
Bilbray is not. He's a solid Republican vote, regardless of whatever BS about being nominally pro-choice he likes to spew.

Furthermore, I see no evidence of him being politically savvy. If he was, Susan Davis wouldn't have beaten him back in his real district and Eric Roach wouldn't have nearly knocked him off in the Special Election. And frankly barely beating two second-tier opponents even after having the advantage of incumbency is not an incredible feat.

And I don't claim to be an expert, but if only Indians and Japanese voted Democratic I think the Republicans would consistently win the Asian vote. That is not the case, so I would be extremely surprised if the groups you listed consistently vote Republican as you say they do.


[ Parent ]
That is my take about the Asian vote in SD county
I am right about the Vietnamese, Pakistanis, Indians and Japanese.

The Chinese and Koreans I am guessing. I will be very pleasantly surprised if I am wrong.

Neither Busby not Leibham was touted as a second tier candidate.


[ Parent ]
Data?
I really, really doubt that there are enough Indians and Japanese to balance every other Asian ethnicity out.

Busby was a school board member. Leibham was an attorney. We could have done worse, but neither of them were first-tier candidates.


[ Parent ]
i actually wonder whether it'd be useful to split them between South Asian and East Asian
Well, South and East/Southeast.  South being India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, maybe Afghanistan, and such, and East/Southeast being Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, etc..  I guess Filipino would count as "Pacific Islander"?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
most Pakistanis and indians
I know here in Louisiana are Democrats, and Vietnamese have moved Democratic after the deicing of relations with Vietnam in the 1990s, Koreans and Chinese Americans are very liberal, especially original immigrants who came in the late 1800s. Obama wouldn't ahve won 64% of the Asian vote in California if only two groups leaned Democratic.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

[ Parent ]
Prog Punch time!
Lance, Leonard   R   NJ-7   *   *   29.13   29.13   Swing   *   *
Cao, Joseph R LA-2 * * 24.72 24.72 Strong Dem * *
Lee, Christopher R NY-26 * * 16.49 16.49 Strong Rep * *
Schock, Aaron R IL-18 * * 15.00 15.00 Strong Rep * *
Paulsen, Erik R MN-3 * * 13.59 13.59 Swing * *
Rooney, Thomas R FL-16 * * 12.62 12.62 Leaning Rep * *
Cassidy, Bill R LA-6 * * 10.99 10.99 Leaning Rep * *
Roe, Phil R TN-1 * * 10.68 10.68 Strong Rep * *

That's it for froshies.  For non-froshies:

222   Alexander, Rodney   R   LA-5   24.96   *   21.25   7.00   Strong Rep   -45.04   rank 1
223 Paul, Ron R TX-14 23.42 * 22.82 2.94 Strong Rep -46.58 rank 1
224 Hall, Ralph R TX-4 20.17 * 22.25 2.91 Strong Rep -49.83 rank 1
225 Castle, Michael R DE-AL 15.34 * 22.97 27.18 Strong Dem -67.99 rank 1
226 Ehlers, Vernon R MI-3 12.53 * 18.56 27.08 Strong Rep -57.47 rank 1
227 LoBiondo, Frank R NJ-2 12.30 * 21.78 27.18 Leaning Dem -67.70 rank 1
228 Smith, Chris R NJ-4 12.18 * 23.39 31.07 Leaning Rep -61.15 rank 1
229 Johnson, Timothy R IL-15 12.05 * 22.14 22.45 Strong Rep -57.95 rank 1
230 Duncan, Jimmy R TN-2 10.98 * 10.74 8.91 Strong Rep -59.02 rank 1
231 Reichert, Dave R WA-8 10.95 * 22.22 30.10 Strong Dem -72.38 rank 1
232 Upton, Fred R MI-6 10.51 * 15.97 26.21 Swing -66.16 rank 1
233 Kirk, Mark R IL-10 10.29 * 20.50 23.30 Strong Dem -73.04 rank 1
234 Petri, Tom R WI-6 10.21 * 12.59 17.48 Leaning Rep -63.12 rank 1

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
Cao is "moderate" by Republican standards, but Castle is far from the most moderate Republican.
Discounting the kooky Ron Paul, we still have Castle beaten by Ralph Hall, Rodney Alexander, Leonard Lance, and Chris Lee, as well as Cao.  Theoretically, Castle SHOULD be the second-most liberal Republican, second to Cao, if everything went by district fits.

Also, the supposedly kooky Don Young clocks in at only 4.08.

Finally, Jim Gerlach only gets 8.72, in another strong D district.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
Yes, but my point stands.
Bilbray is not moderate no matter how you look at it.

[ Parent ]
Oh, right, I forgot, Bilbray.
Actually, he's right below 10, right below Tom Petri, among the non-froshies.  Bilbray is rated at 9.64, #235 of 375 non-froshies.

(If it weren't obvious yet, I only listed the people with 10+ scores.)

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
Given the number of "moderates" in the Republican caucus
that still doesn't make him a moderate. No member of the Republican Study Committee is.

[ Parent ]
Forget the Republican Study Committee
Look at some of the people who are part of the "moderate" Republican Main Street Partnership Group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R...

Roscoe Bartlett, Maryland
Ginny Brown-Waite, Florida
Ken Calvert, California
David Dreier, California
Steve LaTourette, Ohio
Jerry Lewis, California
Thad McCotter, Michigan
Todd Platts, Pennsylvania
Mike Turner, Ohio
Fred Upton, Michigan
Greg Walden, Oregon
Ed Whitfield, Kentucky

John McCain, Arizona

Those people aren't moderate.


[ Parent ]
PP scores
Bartlett: 4.28
Brown-Waite: 3.12
Calvert: 1.15
Dreier: 2.24
LaTourette: 6.22
J. Lewis: 3.84
McCotter: 2.62
Platts: 7.26
Turner: 1.49
Upton: 10.51
Walden: 2.98
Whitfield: 3.49
McCain: 11.51

Moderate?  With only two out of thirteen members scoring above a 10.  Riiiiiight.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
Dreier
The last two cycles have taken a million out of his bank account each time.  For years ago, his cash was $2.8 Million, 2 years ago IIRC around $1.9 or slightly under. He's under a million at $755,823 cash.  This is the last time he can dip into cash on hand (and he can take less than he's used to).  Slowly, I turn.  I think Mr. Best Dressed closeted congressman is headed to play lobbyist.  Soon.

[ Parent ]
Yeah
I do not know how to negotiate these pages. So I cannot find them.

Somehow I'm not surprised.


[ Parent ]
here is one
fai calif @ Fri Sep 19, 2008 at 21:31:43 PM CDT

There is a second one - but I cannot find it.


[ Parent ]
No one who replied to that comment even said anything about CA-50.


[ Parent ]
Pakistanis
Vote Republican even in federal elections? Before 9/11 I can definitely see that happening but the GOP is seen as Islamaphobic post-9/11. And things like the Patriot Act and warrentless federal wiretapping and Gitmo are very unpopular in Muslim communities.  

[ Parent ]
It's changed since 9/11
I believe something like 70%+ is Muslims of Middle Eastern descent actually did vote for Bush in 2000, but by 2004 it was reversed and Kerry took 75%+ of their vote.  They may agree with republicans on many social issues, but 9/11 completely destroyed that.

[ Parent ]
it wasn't 70% before 9/11
Bush won a plurality of Arabs in 2000, in large part because Ralph Nader, who was of Lebanese descent and pro-Palestinian, won about 20% of the Arab vote.

[ Parent ]
Middle East Quarterly
Their polls showed Bush winning 70-80% in 2000.

http://www.meforum.org/13/how-...

The alleged final numbers, according to a CAIR poll released after the election, were 72 percent for Bush, 8 percent for Gore and 19 percent for Nader. Nationally, in a "post-election telephone poll," the AMA found that "more than 80 percent" went for Bush, 9 percent for Gore, and 10 percent for Nader. If Ralph Nader had not run on the Green Party line, the figures for Bush would have reflected Muslim and immigrant dissatisfaction with Gore to an even greater extent. (This is not because Greenism is popular with Muslims but that they were attracted to Nader's Lebanese background and his outspoken views on the Middle East.)


[ Parent ]
I wonder whom they polled
A large number of Muslims are black, and I'm pretty sure that they voted heavily for Gore.  

But I guess there were some Nader voters who would have otherwise voted for Bush.


[ Parent ]
It's possible they underpolled or didn't poll black Muslims
I believe there are actually more black Muslims than non-black Muslims in the U.S.  Though I'd imagine black Muslims are a good deal more pro-republican than Christian blacks.  If black Muslims were taken into consideration I can't imagine how Bush carried 70-80% of their vote.

[ Parent ]
Here's another poll
But an AAI poll of Arab voters showed Bush carrying the Arab vote by 46 to 38 percent over Gore; Nader (of Lebanese descent) garnered 13 percent. And in a broader if unscientific survey of 1774 Muslim voters done by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Bush won 72 percent.

A Zogby poll of 505 Arab Americans shortly after the vote found 45% for Bush, 38% for Gore, and a considerable 13.5% for Ralph Nader, who is of Lebanese descent.

http://middleeast.about.com/od...


[ Parent ]
ummmm huh?
so we have to knock off a guy who is in a 62/38 republican district (Issa) before we can knock off a guy in 54/46 district (Bilbray)?  Makes a lot of sense...

[ Parent ]
I was wrong.
Issa has a better cushion. However, Bilbray may have a longer endgame than many 54/46 Republicans.

[ Parent ]
No Relationship

There's a problem with this analysis though. If growth in the Hispanic population and the Asian population were increasing Democratic vote share in these congressional districts, then there should be a relationship between these factors. As Hispanic population increases, so should Obama's increase over Kerry.

Instead, there is no relationship. 

I took Christunity's data above, and measured the growth in the Hispanic and Asian population against the increase in Obama's vote share over Kerry in each district.

A one percent increase in Hispanic population in a district produces only a .1% increase in Obama over Kerry. 

For Asians, the relationship goes the other way. A one percent increase in Asian growth in a district produces 1.2% less Obama increase over Kerry. 

Implications:  Team Blue is improving in California's Republican districts, but there's not evidence that it is being driven by demographic changes.

 

 



that's whats bs, makes no sense
Gallegly's district sawa 50,000 hispanic increase and Obama improved 8% there. Or look at Howard McKeon's district. There's a corrolation between the furthest moving districts and large minority grow which leans strong Democratic.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

[ Parent ]
Hmmm
Could you show some more of your math, and I'll take another look? I didn't perform any sort of rigorous statistial analysis, but the relationship seems pretty clear to me when you re-arrange the districts in order of the magnitude of the 04-08 shift. The districts with the biggest shift (10 pts in CA-25 and CA-44, 9 pts in CA-45) are also the ones with the largest raw numbers in terms of added Hispanics. (CA-48 jumped 9 pts without adding a lot of Hispanics, but it did add more Asians than any other district... although that's a district where the fact that Obama was the first Dem to win among voters over $200K income since, well, maybe ever, probably made a big difference too.) The districts with the smallest shift (6 pts in CA-02 and CA-46, 7 pts in CA-04) added the smallest number of Hispanics. (CA-41 only improved 7 pts despite adding more than 100K Hispanics, so it looks a bit anomalous.)

Anyway, I agree there's way more going on here than just race alone, so I'd be interested in any alternative hypotheses you might have. If I were writing my PhD dissertation on this, and not writing a quick blog post, I would certainly want to investigate differences in levels of advertising, Obama campaign GOTV activity, local Democratic party organization, etc., and how that compares from district to district too.


[ Parent ]
I'm curious
as to how much of Obama's large California victory had to do with the fact that the election appeared over early on election night.

MSNBC called Pennsylvania three hours before the polls closed in California...how many Republicans who didn't vote left work at 5pm, saw Pennsylvania had gone to Obama and said "well fuck this" and didn't bother to vote.

My aunt and uncle in Hawaii, who are Republicans, did that.  

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That's a good observation
And I'll bet that accounts for at least some of it. But the growth in the red districts in California outpaces the growth in the other red districts in the Pacific Time Zone (or further west). OR-02 gained 5 from 04 to 08 (38 to 43), WA-04 gained 5 (35 to 40), and WA-05 gained 5 (41 to 46)... which matches Obama's nationwide gain on Kerry (48 to 53), so their movement was average. AK-AL only gained 2 (36 to 38), although you need to account for the Palin factor there. NV-02 gained 8 (41 to 49), but it was the only one of these districts in a state that was actually contested at the presidential level.

[ Parent ]
Very possible
Some of those western states did end up going for Obama by much bigger than expected margins.  There were few polls on Hawaii prior to the election, but those that I did see had Obama winning with a much lower % of the votes than the real result.

[ Parent ]
well
Hawaii might be different because people were still voting there AFTER the election was called... The election was not officially called until the polls closed and California, Oregon and Washington put Obama over the top in electoral votes. Hawaiian Republicans may have stayed home.

[ Parent ]
Ya
But the election was pretty much over early in the evening.  While it may not have been called by the times the west coast polls closed it was obvious Obama was going to win.

[ Parent ]
It may not have been officially over until they called the West Coast
But in reality it was done when Ohio was called so quickly at around 9.30 EST. Besides, the results in CA, WA and OR were close to the polls. Though I suppose you could make the argument for Repubs staying home in Nevada and Hawaii where the margins were quite shocking.

[ Parent ]
My observations
I was a poll worker for Debbie Cook's campaign in the Long Beach portion of CA-46... Turn out was VERY high, VERY early where I was. I was only supposed to call the Democrats and urge them to the polls, by about 3 or 4 pm o'clock, there were only about 5 or 6 Democratic households in the entire precinct that had yet to come in and vote. If Republicans were depressed enough to not turn out, it wasn't because the election was looking like it was over early, it was because the election, to many, was basically over the September before.  

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