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NC, NE, and KS: Population by CD

by: Crisitunity

Thu Mar 03, 2011 at 5:15 PM EST


Of the states rolled out in this week's Census 2010 releases, North Carolina is by far the most interesting one. North Carolina narrowly missed out on a 14th seat, so it's staying at 13; its target is 733,499, up from about 619K in 2000. Unsurprisingly, the big gains come in the Charlotte and Raleigh metropolitan areas, with NC-09 in Charlotte's suburbs and NC-04 in Durham and Chapel Hill both well past the 800K mark. (The 9th is represented by GOPer Sue Myrick, although the state's district that shifted the sharpest to the left from Kerry to Obama, while the 4th belongs to Dem David Price and is the bluest white-majority district in the state.) NC-01 on the coastal plain, one of the nation's few truly rural African-American-majority seats, gained the least, followed by the three mostly-rural Appalachian-flavored seats (NC-05, NC-10, and NC-11).

How this shakes out for redistricting is complicated, because Republicans control the process for the first time ever and will want to undo a pretty Dem-friendly map from 2000... but without getting too greedy. What may be their first task, shoring up newly-elected Renee Elmers in what's currently a swing district, may be made easier by the fact the mostly-suburban/exurban 2nd will probably need to give a lot of its African-American population in Raleigh proper to the next-door 1st in order to preserve the dwindling 1st's black-majority VRA status. But since the 2nd didn't grow that fast, it'll then need to look elsewhere to grab some enough white votes to replace them... and since the GOP probably won't want those to be liberal transplants in the Research Triangle area, they may need to reach south into the 3rd or 7th instead.

I could see that in turn pushing Dem Mike McIntyre's 7th further west into Fayetteville and south central rural counties, keeping his district swingy, while also pushing Larry Kissell's 8th further west too, probably giving him a heaping helping of dark-red Charlotte suburbs and making him the likeliest Dem to get targeted for extinction. But the GOP has many, many ways to play this (see the Aaron Blake article linked above), and this isn't the only scenario.

District Population Deviation
NC-01 635,936 (97,563)
NC-02 741,576 8,077
NC-03 735,979 2,480
NC-04 826,878 93,379
NC-05 693,414 (40,085)
NC-06 714,412 (19,087)
NC-07 742,938 9,439
NC-08 709,449 (24,050)
NC-09 852,377 118,878
NC-10 689,468 (44,031)
NC-11 703,606 (29,893)
NC-12 736,346 2,847
NC-13 753,104 19,605
Total: 9,535,483

The other two multi-district states are much more clear cut and present similar profiles: in both Nebraska and Kansas, the big empty western districts need to expand greatly, and the urban/suburban districts need to shed population. The GOP controls the processes in both states; the only real intrigue might be whether they try to get fancy and crack the only-slightly-red Omaha-area NE-02 and Kansas City-area KS-03 to make them safer Republican seats. The target in Nebraska is 608,780, up from 570K in 2000. (Notice how low that is... Nebraska seems right at the top of the list for a lost seat in 2020.) In Kansas, the target is 713,280, up from 672K in 2000.

District Population Deviation
NE-01 626,092 17,312
NE-02 638,871 30,091
NE-03 561,378 (47,402)
Total: 1,826,341

District Population Deviation
KS-01 655,310 (57,970)
KS-02 710,047 (3,233)
KS-03 767,569 54,289
KS-04 720,192 6,912
Total: 2,853,118
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Find it interesting that KS-03 did the best out of all the Kansas
districts with population considering all of the problems democrats in Missouri are having with people leaving STL/KC.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

KS-3 is much more suburban than MO-5
In general urban and rural districts have been losing population (or not keeping up) while suburban ones have been growing, so this is not particularly surprising.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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yeah
interestingly the kc part of missouri is much larger than the kc part of kansas, but the kansas part has more suburbs

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

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Your signature (?)
I'm pretty sure you call that a signature, anyway, although I'm new to SSP and I'm not even sure you will ever see this reply. Anyway, if you do, I found it very interesting that you wrote that you are a "social liberal, economic liberal, fiscal conservative" particularly the latter two. Don't people usually, as I understand it, interchange economic and fiscal when talking politics? Obviously, if you put that you are an economic liberal yet a fiscal conservative than you are that, in some definition different than my own interpretation, so I'd be curious to know what views you have that make you an "economic liberal" and a "fiscal conservative."

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Ah i see.


CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

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No major surprises here
thanks for posting.  

CA among others is supposed to come out next week?


Yeah
Next week is AZ, CA, CT, ID, OH, PA, and WI.

23, male, Democrat, IA-02 (previously CA-26, PA-06, CA-06)

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Finally California!
 Once the data is on the app, I plan to start a map with the State Senate districts and/or make changes to my current U.S House map for California.  

for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


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Cracking Omaha
If Republicans take part of Omaha out of NE-02 that may make NE-01 close to being in play. You could end up with 2 districts around R+8 instead of the current R+6 (NE-02) and R+11(NE-01). Both districts would still be long shots but with the right candidate in the right year....  

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

The urbanization of the Breadbasket?
Looking at the districts on a national map, along with Oklahoma's districts, it seems as though three states we think of as very rural are becoming more and more urban.

In Nebraska, the Omaha (1st) and Lincoln (2nd) districts are overpopulated while the rural district in the west (3rd) needs to expand.

In Kansas, the Kansas City-Lawrence district (3rd) grew quite a bit while the Witchita-based district (4th) will also need to contract.  The Topeka district (2nd) does need to expand, but it's not too bad.  However, the rural district in the west (1st) is in massive need of expansion.

In Oklahoma, the Tulsa district (1st) and Norman district (4th) need to contract while the Oklahoma City district (5th) is basically at the right level.  The two more rural districts (2nd and 3rd) need to expand.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


Switch the numbers for NE-01 and NE-02


Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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Over half of Nebraska's population lives in...
... only 3 counties. Douglas (Omaha), Sarpy (Omaha burbs), and Lancaster (Lincoln).

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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It's amazing
According to these figures, the state of Nebraska apparently coerced only one person to move there in the last ten years.

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Ok, I lied.
Misinterpreted a few things.

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Kinda like what we're seeing in VA


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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This has been happening for decades
The high plains especially have been bleed population since the dust bowl.  Once the Ogallala runs out, what people are left will probably leave, save the American Indians, who are actually increasing in population.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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ND
North Dakota's total population has stayed fairly stable since 1930, but now over half of it is in Fargo, Bismarck, Grand Forks, and Minot while some of the rural counties are down more than 85% from their peak.

41, Ind, CA-05

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Here is an interesting figure
Those counties with Fargo, Bismarck, Grand Forks and Minot had 134,000 people in 1930 and 338,000 in 2007. The other 49 counties went from 546,000 to 301,000 in the same period though. One county in particular is Burke County which has 2,000 people now but once had close to 10,000.  

for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


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ND
North-Dakota had more residents in 1930 than it has now. That's a record ... no other state has lost population compared to a census that long ago.

West-Virginia and DC are up next, both having had more residents in 1940 than they have now.

38, Male, SP, NL / LMP, HU


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My comment was about the rural plains in particular
The urban areas have been more stable or increasing.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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Even Texas
80% of Texas' 254 counties lost population over the past decade.

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...
Um, no. 79 of 254 lost population... which amounts to just slightly over 31%.

21, Conservative Gay Democrat, NM-2 (Childhood) TX-10 (Home) TX-23 (School);   DKos: wwmiv.

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Hmmm. OK. I wonder where I heard that.
Thanks.

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.
However, I did read somewhere that if it weren't for Hispanic growth a majority of counties in East Texas would have lost population...  

21, Conservative Gay Democrat, NM-2 (Childhood) TX-10 (Home) TX-23 (School);   DKos: wwmiv.

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It is certainly true with the KS 1st district
 It had 76,000 people in 1870 and 577,000 in 1890. Kansas also has more "frontier" counties than it did in 1890. Also, the 1st district has been experiencing some Hispanic growth in places such as Dodge City so it appears that the rural areas are shrinking even more.  

for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


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"Frontier Counties"?


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The 19th century Census Dept definition of "frontier"
was areas where the population density was below 2 people square mile. See here. It's the only technical definition I know of. I not sure that it's what Alibguy is referring to, but the reference to 1890 suggests that it is. 1890 was the first census where there was no longer a clear line seperating a large contiguous frontier area from the settled areas to the east and west.

30, male, MI-11 (previously VA-08). Evangelical, postconservative, green.

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2 people *per* square mile (N/T)


30, male, MI-11 (previously VA-08). Evangelical, postconservative, green.

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Regarding NC...
I was actually surprised that NC-09 had more population growth than NC-04.  I thought that the numbers would be reversed.  


40, male, Democrat, NC-04

Wake county area grew
faster then Mecklenburg county area.

NC9 just had all the suburban faster growing areas in it.  Triangle area, generally speaking, was still the faster growing metro area in NC


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I'm hoping for a bit of GOP overreach
in their redistricting plan. Whichever Dem they try to target, they are going to have to weaken one of their incumbents along the way.

None of Coble, Jones, Myrick, Foxx, or McHenry have faced having to actually campaign for a while. This could get interesting.


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NC-9 is pure suburban, NC-4 is mixed
NC-4 has more built-out and urban areas that didn't have much potential for growth, while in Charlotte those neighborhoods are in other districts so NC-9 can capture more of the growth of the region with less stagnation.  

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Kansas Wrap-Up
The big winners were the metro areas in the 2010 Census in Kansas. Johnson County is suburban Kansas City, and now the state's most populous growing by 20% and dispatching still-growing Sedgewick County (Wichita).

Populations for the big counties:
Johnson County (KS-03): 544,179. (+20.6%)  Swingy Suburban Kansas City
Sedgwick (KS-04): 498,365 (+10.0% percent)  R-Leaning But Competitive Wichita
Shawnee (KS-02): 177,934 (+4.7%)   D-Leaning capital of Google Topeka
Wyandotte( KS-03), 157,505 (-0.2% percent)  Urban Kansas City
Douglas (split KS-03 & KS-02): 110,826 (+10.9%)   Liberal college town of Lawrence

Notice how the blue strongholds of Wyandotte & Douglas are getting close in population to one another--in terms of numbers of votes, they're getting even closer. I think KS-03's Kevin Yoder might agree to take on all of growing Douglas if he can give all of stabilizing Wyandotte to Jenkins. Yoder would do much better in Douglas than Jenkins would--he used to be student body president of the University of Kansas, located in Douglas County, while Jenkins has no real ties to the community.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


KS-02/KS-03
I'm not so sure Yoder would want to cede KCK in favor of all of Douglas County. In the reddest of red years, and with an office in downtown Lawrence, he still lost every precinct in the city limits. I'd think he might cede Lawrence and hang on to KCK/JoCo plus maybe northern Miami County (Paola) if he needs a few more folks. Also, the state GOP would be forcing Lynn Jenkins try to get re-elected in both Topeka and KCK. I think that would make KS-02 a tossup, if not slightly lean D.

Plus from a Communities of Interest standpoint, splitting KCK and JoCo is practically sacrilegious. The county line is barely distinguishable, while there's a legitimate amount of farmland between JoCo and Lawrence.

That having been said, I'm sure Yoder's buddies in the Legislature would go to bat for him long before they'd stick their neck out for Lynn Jenkins. If he wants to hang on to Lawrence, I'm sure they'd make it happen. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

21, Male, KS-03


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