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SSP Daily Digest: 1/21

by: Crisitunity

Fri Jan 21, 2011 at 4:16 PM EST


CT-Sen: If you think the Chris Murphy/Susan Bysiewicz primary is an open-and-shut case, guess again: Ted Kennedy Jr.'s name seems to be getting a lot of mention now too. If the 49-year-old lawyer does get elected, if would bring the Kennedy-free interregnum in Congress to a close after only two years. Meanwhile, I don't think anybody was expecting him to give up his leadership slot for a run, but Rep. John Larson has confirmed he's not running for Senate, and isn't endorsing... yet. Rep. Chris Murphy seems to know that this race, with its expensive media markets, is going to cost a lot of money; he's putting a $10 million figure out there, although that of course could go even higher if he finds himself in a general election against Linda McMahon. Luckily for Murphy, MoveOn seems to be backing him up; while they didn't explicitly endorse, they e-mailed their donor base on his behalf today. If he can corner the "netroots candidate" niche in the primary, obviously that'll help him go a long way toward that money goal.

MI-Sen: Could Saul Anuzis, who just lost his RNC chair bid, wind up being the Michigan Senate nominee for the GOP in 2012? Apparently that's an option on the table for him, although he tells Dave Catanese he hasn't "ruled it out or in." Anuzis is a primarily behind-the-scenes player, though, who's never won an election before. At least that gives him that much in common with Tim Leuliette, the only other person to have expressed much interest so far. Also, this isn't exactly Senate related, but here's another Greg Giroux special: a database showing the Michigan governor's race breakdown by current congressional district.

MN-Sen: Marty Seifert, the state Rep. who lost the 2010 Republican nomination to the further-right Tom Emmer, has declined to run for either the 2012 or 2014 Senate races, leaving the state GOP still casting about for anyone to go up against Amy Klobuchar. They're still laying the groundwork for a hard run, though, already launching a new website trying to tar the often-moderate Klobuchar with the dreaded "liberal."

NV-Sen: John Ensign confirms yet again that he's running for re-election (at least for now), though he says he expects a primary challenge and will have difficulty regaining the voters' trust. The main thing, though, he'll have difficulty is regaining money... he raised only $19K last quarter for his campaign account. (His legal fees are another story: he raised $550K for his legal defense fund last quarter, and spending $97K of that on lawyers. Likely rival Dean Heller, for his part, said at a press conference that he's keeping an eye on the race, but without a specific timetable for an announcement.

RI-Sen: One well-known name (at least locally) who does seem interested in the Senate race (which so far hasn't drawn any takers) is Alan Hassenfeld, the former CEO of locally-based toymaker Hasbro. (Does that make him the real-life inspiration for Mr. Weed on the Family Guy?) At any rate, Hassenfeld is registered independent and contributed to and voted for the Moderate Party's gubernatorial candidate last year, so he seems like he might be running on their line, not for the GOP.

VA-Sen: The rest of the Democratic A-list in Virginia seems to be shying away from the Senate race, meaning either Jim Webb is pretty certain to run again or else we're in a world of hurt. Terry McAuliffe, who in the end acquitted himself well in the '09 gubernatorial race, says he won't run if Webb doesn't (joining Tim Kaine in the "no thanks" pile). That's not a surprise, in that McAuliffe's interest in another whack at the gubernatorial race in 2013 is well-known.

LA-Gov: We've been seeing a lot of polls with strange configurations lately, and this one from Market Research Insight (not a pollster we seem to have any track record from) may take the cake. As one might expect, they find Bobby Jindal looking pretty safe for re-election, but they test him against both Mary Mitch Landrieu (as a D) and John Kennedy (as an R) in what, I assume, is supposed to be a jungle primary format (despite no indications from either Landrieu or Kennedy that they're interested). At any rate, it's Jindal 51, Landrieu 25, Kennedy 10. More generically, they find Jindal with a 49/40 re-elect number.

WV-Gov: Now this is highly unusual. Faced with a court mandate to hold a special election this year, acting Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (the main person wanting to kick the election back to 2012), has declared that the special election won't be in November as one might expect, but rather on Oct. 4! The primaries will be held on June 20.

KY-AG: After some last minute rumors this week that he wasn't going to run again, Jack Conway announced today that he's filing for re-election as Attorney General and putting together a new campaign team. Needless to say, that's a relief for those of us who want to keep building a bench in and contesting Kentucky.

Chicago mayor: There's a new Chicago Tribune/WGN poll out of the mayoral race, and like other recent polls, it shows Rahm Emanuel with a big lead and continuing to climb, but still short of the 50% mark at which he could avoid a runoff. The poll finds him at 44, with Carol Mosely Braun (last seen sniping at Bill Clinton, telling him he's "turning his back" on minorities) at 21, Gery Chico at 16, and Miguel del Valle at 7. Emanuel is also announcing his financial haul, which, as you might guess, is huge (Senate-sized, really): $10.6 million raised through mid-January. With that in mind, he's sparing no expense when it comes to advertising, rolling out a $150K ad buy during the Bears/Packers game this weekend.

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Jindal
Not that I expect anything but a comfy win but that re-elect number isn't particularly strong. I think it shows the mistake in assuming to much about Dems with so-so re-elect numbers in the Senate.

also
They tested him against Mitch, not Mary. That is a local polling firm, they do a lot in LA and New Orleans for media.  

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Related - Trivia Question
So far no Dem has stepped up to run against Jindal. That got me thinking...

What was the most recent gubernatorial election where a major party did not field a candidate?

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)


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Well, depending on your definition
Illinois in 1986 had a Democrat running, but not on the Democratic Party line. A LaRoucheite managed to win the primary for Lt. Governor, so rather than be stuck with that running mate, the Democratic nominee for Governor, Adlai Stevenson III, created a third-party ticket. The Democratic ticket had no candidate for Governor, but was still on the ballot. See the results here.

Beyond that, there was no Republican on the ballot in Alabama for the 1970 election. Results. (Wallace also got 96% of the vote against a Republican in 1962).


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Chicago mayor
So who are the progressives in the city lining up behind?  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

CMB, I think.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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I
think CMB is more of the AA candidate from everything I've heard. Rahm isn't well liked by the netroots but I think Chicago progressives are mainly behind him, he is polling near 50 and Chicago is a pretty progressive city. Personally I think Chico is a good candidate that does not get talked about enough. That poll indicates he is within striking distance of making the runoff.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Del Valle is holding Chico back from crossing Moseley Braun
As it stands, the black vote is splintered between Emanuel and Moseley Braun, while Hispanics are split between Chico and Del Valle. Since blacks will outnumber Hispanics by about 2 to 1 here, Moseley Braun has obvious the advantage over Chico. Both of them are garnering roughly the same number of whites - about 15% a piece, probably - so it's mostly an issue of shoring-up the racial demographics. If Chico could get Del Valle to back out, he might have the margin with Hispanics to make the run-off. Alas, Del Valle's been really hostile to Chico, so much so that I suspect Del Valle would instead bolt for Moseley Braun.

My guess is the results are something like 47/25/18/10 Emanuel/Braun/Chico/Del Valle. There are other candidates, and they'll amount to about 3% or less, but whatever. I don't think Emanuel quite has it to cross the run-off mark, and I don't think Chico makes the run-off with Del Valle still in this.

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If not Webb then who?
I'm still firmly in the camp that Webb will NOT seek re-election, the man just plain hates his job. Allen open challenges at him haven't pushed him into an announcement and I don't think he cares a lick for who does what among state Dems. The guys basically a Democrat only because he hates Bush so it's not like he's going to "Take One for the Team".

So w/ Webb, Moran, Kaine & now Terry McAuliffe out that leave us with what? Connelly or Periello? World of hurt indeed.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


Kaine will be talked into it
If Webb quits.

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If Kaine can't be talked into it
I'd hope Patty Murry would call someone like Steve Case (yup, the bro of the Hawaiian Ed that the liberal blogsphere likes to hate).

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Chap Petersen
He's also a rising star in the party and a GREAT state senator! :-)

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Gerry Connolly?
on paper he'd seem like a strong choice if Webb and Kaine declined.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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Steve & Ed Case
are cousins, not brothers.

BTW, Steve Case and President Obama went to high school together at the Punahou School in Honolulu; Case was in the class of '76 and Obama in the class of '79.


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Very Possible
There will be much twisting of arms if/when Webb announces he's calling it quits. I think Kaine has something else in mind, like a cabinet spot, and if promises have already been made it will be hard for the WH to reverse course - especially if they have already worked out a plan on his role in the re-election (which seems likely given that the WH basically just took over day-to-day operations at the DNC).

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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All guesses at the moment


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Of Course!


"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Though I would say
Taking over DNC operations isn't much of a sign of anything other than the WH wants complete control and behind the scenes campaign experts rather than a politician handling the nuts and bolts.

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Can't resist


Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

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He said
he'll have an announcement by the end of the first quarter.  And from everything he has said, he is more likely to run than not.  The others saying they won't run is just a ploy to pressure him to stay.  So, he's hardly "out" as you conclude.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Yeah
Whatever Kaine says now isn't really here or there. Sherrod Brown and Tom Udall both said a firm no before they said yes. If Obama wants him to run he will run.

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I hope you are right

I lean to think the same.

I would like to see one of them running for senate and the other running for governor in 2013.


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I disagree
The man really just doens't like his job, and most certainly doesn't like doing the "politicking" it will take to win re-election.

Actually, I think the worst case scenario for Dems would be Webb being bullied or guilted into running again if he really doesn't want the job. One of the most basic rules of politics, "Never run for an office you don't want". A lethargic and disinterested Webb is a far worse candidate than a motivated and focused Perriello or Connolly, who also wouldn't have the added trouble of having to walk back criticism of the guy at the top of the ballot.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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You keep saying this with little if any evidence
At least to the extent you claim. And the fact Webb might be critical of the top of the ticket is a strength not a weakness. It shows he is his own man which independents love.

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I agree.
Why would he criticize the administration if he wasn't running? He is independent-minded, yes, but he's probably respectful enough of the chain of command to keep his mouth shut when he knows he should. So, if anything, I'd say criticizing the administration is probably something he got an okay to do, which he'd only want to do if he was running again.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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That would be NO evidence, not "little"......
If he hates it so much, why did he run in 2006?  He didn't run out of emotional pique from hating Bush.  He's a more thoughtful guy than that.  The only time he's been less than thoughtful has been at times when he's let his past conservative impulses get the best of him, like his idiotic view of women in the military back in the 80s.  Webb has lived in the Beltway for many years, it's not like modern politics and the workings of Congress were a complete mystery to him.  It's a lot of trouble and often not fun, everyone who lives here knows that, you don't have to be an insider to be aware of it.

It's true that he didn't run just out of ambition, and that lack of ambition adds to the real risk he'll retire.  In his personal balancing test, the absence of a drive to be in office for its own sake, as most Senators have, will argue toward retirement.  But there's plenty else to push him into running again, it's going to be a complicated assessment.  If it wasn't, he would've announced a decision already.

I don't understand anyone who doesn't have inside information, who is in the same position as the rest of us, insisting with certainty whether a Senator will retire.  If there aren't clear signals, there couldn't be anything more speculative.  And to the extent one reads public tea leaves, they are ambiguous at best.  Kaine, for his part, actually said recently he thinks Webb will run, FWIW...which might not be worth much more than anyone's guess here.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Webb's '07 SOTU response was well received
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

He's been an excellent leader within the D party ever since. While much of the middle of the speech focused on Iraq, his economic themes still resonate today.


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If it's not Webb, Kaine, or Perriello...
...then good luck trying to hold the seat, Dems.

I would be extremely shocked if Connolly even gave it a second thought.


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The only way Klobuchar could lose
is if she's caught in bed with a dead boy or a live girl.  

Yea, I agree.
One comment I have about this diary is that Klobuchar, while utterly amazing, is not a moderate, not anywhere near it. So, "tarring" her with "liberal" is: a) quite appropriate, and b) not going to damage her. Everyone knows she is a liberal, it's no secret here.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


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She's 29th or 30th
according to Progressive Punch (depending on metric), in, say, Jeanne Shaheen/Bob Casey Jr. territory. Kind of where "liberal" shades over into "moderate," for what that's worth.

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I'd call that mainstream
Moderates are people like Nelson, McCaskill, Landreiu and Pryor.

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I'd agree with that
Definitely no Wellstone, but certainly a reliable vote.  

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I forget who did the ranking but....
... a couple years ago she was ranked the 50th most Liberal (or was it the 50th most Conservative) member of the Senate. She's a centrist.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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Live girl and she may well still be okay


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Haha thats what I was thinking
the upper midwest seems more accepting of homosexuality and female homosexuality tends to bother people less. I think an affair would be the only issue and even then she could win heh.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

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I suspect we'll start getting buzz
... about a Klobuchar 2016 presidential bid post-2012. There's going to be enormous pressure for a major female candidate if Hillary doesn't run, and Klobuchar would seem to be the most logical choice.  

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Probably
Gillibrand too.

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I would say GIllibrand over Klobuchar
Gillibrand can raise money by the truck full Klobuchar would be better suited as on the SCOTUS, in my opinion. I would vote for her in the general, but probably not in the primary, honestly. I like having her in the senate, but I may not like her in the White House, if that makes sense

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


[ Parent ]
Gillibrand also can speak to rural voters very well...
She has enormous mainstream appeal.  

[ Parent ]
Not really
You haven't given us sufficient reason to judge whether your proposition makes sense or not. But since our individual choices of whom to vote for aren't so relevant here, let me ask different questions:

Is the reason that you doubt Klobuchar's suitability for the Presidency a view others in MN share? If so, what's the reason and how have people come to have such views?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Their
attack site is laughable:

The website, amyfacts.com, features photos of Klobuchar and Franken at the top of the page, and says Klobuchar voted with Franken 92 percent of the time. "Talks like a moderate. Votes like a Franken," the banner reads.

What so they can't use Pelosi as a punching bag anymore and Obama's still semi-not hated in Minnesota they resort to using Al Franken?! Hilarious.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


[ Parent ]
They point of the website is to raise early money
The state party is playing directly towards their base, which hates Franken but might be "meh" on Klobuchar. He's an appropriate boogeyman for this particular situation, but probably wouldn't be nationally. I'd expect Pelosi to play that role once again in 2012, as the campaign theme will probably be "don't give Pelosi back the gavel!"

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Because
"Don't give Republicans back the gavel!" worked so well for Democrats last year. I think that ship has sailed my friend.  

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They're
probably going to use Obama as the boogieman this time. Since you know, it would be harder for Democrats in red/swing districts to distance themselves from the national party when they are on the same ballot space as Obama.

By the way, have you noticed Michelle Bachmann needs to use the word "repeal" in every sentence she speaks now. I watched her floor speech and she said, "we need to repeal this bill, we need to repeal the president, we need to repeal the senate, blah blah blah."

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


[ Parent ]
Bachmann's to-repeal list
HCR
17 Amendment
Hawaiian statehood
14th Amendment
1st Amendment
19th Amendment
The Constitution

Take it one step at a time, Michele.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Too bad...
Voters in MN-06 didn't repeal HER.....

31, Dem - NM-03 currently in France

[ Parent ]
what doesn't work for Democrats
often works for Republicans, Remember, they respond to scare tactics, Dems brush them off.  

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Kucinich already saying he'll fight to stay in Congress
http://www.springfieldnewssun....

The article also mentions New York and a consolidation of Louise Slaughter's and Brian Higgins' districts.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.


Slaughter is based out of Rochester
So while her district may lose its weird earmuff shape, there's no way there she would be thrown in with Higgins.  Both of them risk having to go mano-a-mano with a republican incumbent though.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
Slaughter will get a safe district
I think they will eliminate one upstate GOPer (Buerkhle or Gibson) and one downstate Dem (Crowley or Engel). It's just easier that way.

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My guess would be Ackerman for the downstate district.


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Question:
does Kucinich have a better shot at beating Sutton or Fudge in the primary?

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

[ Parent ]
Conventional wisdom
about racial politics is that he runs against Sutton on no one.  

[ Parent ]
But the 11th is liable to be only around 50% Black
and about 85% Democratic. That means there's a good chance white Dems could make up close to a majority of the primary vote. Given the fact that Fudge has never won a seriously contested election (primary or general) he might have a path.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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It's criminal
that Buffalo and Rochester don't have their own separate districts. Slaughter has way too much clout to be put in a district with Higgins. I think the best thing to do would be eliminate NY-29 and give Higgins all of Buffalo and Niagara Falls. Slaughter should be given all of Monroe County.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

[ Parent ]
It will probably be done like that
Remember, back in 2000, NY-27 was drawn to protect a Republican, Jack Quinn. Higgins picked up the seat in 2004 when he retired, so there's no reason for the districts to be configured as they are now.

Slaughter might not be happy, though, since her district would become a lot less safe. It's currently about 69% Obama, as it pulls in some heavily-Democratic parts of Buffalo; if you draw it just to include Monroe County, it'd drop to about 59-60%.


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I can't imagine that kind of "drop" would bother her......
A 60% Obama district is still pretty strong.  Adjust for Obama doing 5 points better nationally than Kerry, and it's still a 55% Democratic district.  She's popular and scandal-free, even in a bad wave like the last cycle she'd be OK, even if she had to work harder than normal.  The only seats we lost last year that were that Democratic, i.e., Kerry won 55%, were where the Democrat got caught napping.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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Right
and even then, there are very few that did. Oberstar, Hare, and Kanjorski come to mind in terms of being in a strong Democratic district, though Kanjorski wasn't napping. I guess Melissa Bean might fall in that category as well.

Luckily for us, some others woke up like Rick Larsen.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


[ Parent ]
Bean's district is a Republican lean......
I'm sure Obama did well there as a favorite son, but it's really a center-right Republican district.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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I Drew This A Few Times
And this is probably how it will play out. Slaughter will get most of Monroe County (it's slightly bigger than a full CD population-wise), Higgins will get Buffalo, Niagara Falls, and the bluest nearby suburbs. Most of Chris Lee's district is the Republican turf between them (eastern Erie County, the rest of Niagara, Orleans, Genessee, Livingston, and maybe some stuff in western Monroe.)


36, M, Democrat, MD-03

[ Parent ]
LA-Gov poll
They polled Mitch Landrieu not Mary.  

Ooops
Well, at least that makes a little more sense.

[ Parent ]
Damn that Michigan map is sad.
A dem losing MI-05 is pretty damn bad.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

Remember when Virg Benerro was
the one progressive candidate who can excite the base enough to win?  

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Not really.
I think the dems were always down in this race and just went with Benerro as a hail mary to excite democrats.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

[ Parent ]
except he excited no one


[ Parent ]
Revisionism
The reality is this race was lost after the GOP nominated their strongest candidate.

The nature of the election, and Benerro's chances would have been very different against other GOP hopefuls.


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True but i'm pretty sure we were down in all the polling regardless
its just Snyder had the widest lead.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

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MI-Gov
The reality is this race was lost after the GOP nominated their strongest candidate.

Yeah, though those of us in Michigan were recognizing it as a long shot before that, which is one reason for the crossover primary vote.

Per Mark Grebner, about half the normally-Dem voters who voted in the Republican primary picked Snyder (either because they wanted him, or as a least of evils).  Another 1/3 picked Cox, who might have been beatable even without a new scandal. (Of course, event there, the votes might have been sincere; I just don't happen to know anyone of either party who admitted to voting for him.)

The nature of the election, and Benerro's chances would have been very different against other GOP hopefuls.

More relevant to lessons-learned is whether Dillon would have had a better chance, or would at least have forced Snyder into making more promises of moderation.  

I doubt it, though there would have been a few minutes of amusement as Michigan Right to Life backpedaled.  They justified their endorsement of Cox over Hoekstra by saying they were afraid of the unacceptable Snyder, and talked about how they might support Dillon if he won the D primary.  Their other endorsements suggested these weren't sincere claims, but the walkback would have been funny.


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For me
the question is was the Bennero candidacy worth it? The point of it was that if we were going to lose, we were going to do it exciting the base enough to keep a lot of state legislative and Congressional seats. It didn't work, they got near supermajorities in the state house and two House seats.

Bennero didn't "excite the base" and for that matter neither did Paul Hodes, Joe Sestak, Anthony Weiner, Raul Grijalva, Dennis Kucinich, Alan Grayson, or any of the other candidates who the left claimed would.

and neither did the Blue Dogs.

 


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Bernero exciting the base?
Within Michigan, I don't remember Bernero being talked up as someone who would excite the base.  There was some hope that his anger would play well, or that he might excite someone later, but no one was saying "this guy is great, and will excite the base."

I think it was closer to "Even that part of the base that does turn out reliably might stay home in disgust if Dillon is the nominee, and all the other potential candidates dropped out already".  

In fairness, I'm not sure there were any potential candidates who could have excited the base, let alone win.  Certainly not enough of the base to prevent the legislative losses.

Bernero didn't pull off the long shot, but he didn't embarrass himself either.


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I think that's a function of MI-5 being a rather poor Dem Vote Sink
..at least, relative to where it could be. I've been working on a map that pushes MI-5 into Lansing without splitting townships, minimal county splits, and making it pretty compact. That could be a major ace in the hole as far as shoring up vulnerable R districts in Michigan (for example, all of them.)

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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Michigan
The Dems knew all along that they were just throwing someone in as a sacrafice.  No Dem could have won anywhere in the state with how demoralized the Dems were.  I love her to death, but there was NO way a Dem could win after Jenny's administration.  She wasn't even ever seen during the campaign for fear she'd hurt Bernero's already long-shot bid.

Between the tea-party wave and the demoralized local electorate, there just wasn't any way.  I imagine it was similar to how it'd have been a tough ride to elect a Republican in California or Minnesota after two-termed Republican governors.  It was natural turnover coupled with a national wave that was both long and deep.


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Detroit
BTW, to show how demoralized the local Dems were, I think Detroit's turnout was something like 35% at the very most.  If they could have even got that up to 50, we'd at least have had a Dem Secretary of State and maybe another seat on the Supreme Court.

[ Parent ]
Wow,
that's awful. I don't want to say that's the only reason we lost, but I'm sure that didn't help.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Good
for Conway. I know he took the loss badly from everything I've heard but he really is a good AG and should have no trouble keeping his seat. Plus we don't need to worry about AG when we have to defend Auditor and SoS and are playing offense with Agriculture Commissioner and SoS could be labeled as offense as well. It is very possible that we make a clean sweep of all statewide offices. Dems actually did really good in KY last year on the local level so KY looks to be bucking the realignment other southern states are facing.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

Martha Coakley won reelection easily despite her choke
I don't think voters will Conway's poor Senate performance against him either.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
That Conway lost isn't the worrying thing
It's how he lost (that is, apparently alienating a lot of voters with the Aqua Buddha ad) that is a worrying prospect for his reelection chances.

With that said, he appears to have lucked out when it comes to opposition, and I'll second hoosierdem on that being a good thing.

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09


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The
thing with his brother doesn't help him either. But he is arguably one of the best AG's in the states history so I think he has enough good will to win. The lack of polling in KY in general for 2011 races really sucks.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
What happened with his brother? n/t


"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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MA isn't KY
And Coakley's opponent raised all of $30k and he won the primary by a write in campaign. P'Pool is a much better challenger than McKenna.  

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Not
to be rude but I'll say this: Jack Conway isn't Martha Coakley either. Conway has done a lot as AG, he has a great record to run on and P'pool is a weak candidate. If P'Pool wins it means every other Republican did as well.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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P'Pool
I still don't see how he's weak. Sure, he's no Trey Grayson, but he has already started raising some money, and he's put $250k of his own money in already.  

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Someone from that area
knows more than either of us.  Just look at westkydem's response to my question about some of the races and you'll see.  P'Pool is third-tier and is not at all likely to win.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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He said:
KY-AG: Conway dodged a BIG bullet with Grayson deciding not to challenge him. Todd P'Pool is small-time to say the least. Unless the animosity to Conway from the senate race is stronger than I think it is, he should win.

Sorry, but just leave this race alone.  This candidate is a joke.  You heard it straight from the lips of someone who actually lives there.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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And also
Conway can self-fund as well.  So that means nothing.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Yes
The Conway family has some serious dough from what I've heard.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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He's
a small timer with no experience statewide and no record to run on. From what I've heard he's not much of a campaigner either. He's basically a sacrificial lamb but with some dough. He's not doing bad with fundraising but Conway can self fund much more than that if he needs to, which he won't because he is also a very good fundraiser. Conway has a very solid record to run on as AG, most importantly his record with drugs, a very key issue in many parts of Kentucky.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Never heard of Alan Hassenfeld
though obviously I know Hasbro. If he runs on the Moderate line he probably maxes out around low double or high single digits.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


Let me guess
Hasbro is short for "Hassenfeld Brothers."

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WV-Gov.
Any polls on the race? I feel kind of good about it simply because we haven't seen the shift on the local level that we've seen in say Alabama or Louisiana. The fact that its in 2011 also helps us since it makes it tougher to bring in national politics.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

PPP is polling there this weekend.


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Is there anything else Ted Kennedy, Jr. can run for?
I'd really like to see Murphy in the Senate, and I'd worry that Kennedy might just split the vote and give the nomination to Bysiewicz. Could he run for Murphy's House seat? (Granted, I'm not sure he lives in the same district, but it's still doable.)

Ted Jr. seems like a good guy and has real potential, but I really don't like this whole idea that people should be able to parachute into high-level races based on their name alone.  


Someone
said he lives in Rosa DeLauro's district. She's 67 and I would guess she'll be around another 6-8 years. He should wait and run when she does retire. I don't want Susan B as a Senator.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I was under the impression
that candidates didn't need to live in a specific district to run, so long as they live in that state. Is that true for some states, for all of them, or for none of them?

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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yes
but it often looks bad.

a kennedy doing it makes him look extremely entitled.
also, you're allowed to in every state

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)


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Meh, people do it and win all the time......
Voters don't really seem to care.  Tom McClintock is from the opposite end of the state from his district, and still beat Charlie Brown for an open seat.  And there are countless other examples.  It makes sense that voters don't care because House district boundaries are by nature artificial and temporary, lasting no more than a decade at a time.

And regarding Kennedy, it would be a new and unprecedented development if any resentment toward "entitlement" hurt him.  Kennedys have been elected in MA, RI, and NY over the years, without ever losing.  Only in MD have they been unsuccessful, with Kathleen Kennedy Townsend an acutely bad candidate and Mark Shriver just getting outclassed in the MD-08 primary by Van Hollen back in '02.  So Ted, Jr. running in CT shouldn't be a problem.  Now, like Shriver he might just get outclassed by a better candidate in the primary, and I think just that would happen in CT-Sen '12, but I doubt any resentment toward his family name will be there.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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It's Different In Some Places
McClintock's district is so full of transplants from other places that few people seem to care that much that he's from SoCal. (Plus enough of them are conservative enough that they just wanted to make sure their Congressman had an R next to his name.)

Some places are more parochial than that in that they've got a long established pattern of who they elect to office.

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


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I need a punching bag:
MI-Sen: Let me ask, once again, why Stabenow is seen as so vulnerable if virtually nobody of any significance is jumping into the race? It's certainly not the only thing in the world that's a good indication, but it's definitely a top one.

LA-Gov: On the same note, why isn't Jindal seen as vulnerable? He's only barely better than most Senate Democrats when it comes to his re-elect numbers.

Also, who might run against him? I realize it's Louisiana, so our options might be fairly limited, and the ones that we do have might not be all that great, but it'd be nice to at least give him a race, if not win outright. Imagine winning one or both of Louisiana and Mississippi next year. It might--might--create a narrative of the Democrats being back on track electorally.

VA-Sen: What's the harm in Kaine saying he won't run now but then reversing course if Webb decides not to run? It's hardly the worst reversal in the world, and if there's really nobody else, the inside pressure, from Obama and everyone else, would be enormous.

KY-AG: I'm glad he's staying in politics. He seems like a fairly reasonable person and, overall, not a half bad candidate. While I'd love for someone like Yarmuth to take on McConnell in 2014, Conway is almost certainly the better candidate.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


I think you are rigth about Virginia

If Webb would not run Kaine would have very high pressure, and more being the DNC chair. If he has not a minimum level of compromise with the Democratic Party, who must have?

I agree also about Stabenow. She is less endangered than other incumbents, and she can be able for keep out all the most prominent republicans in the state, what are now back in the polls. Still a race to watch closely.

I glad Conway runs again. I think an open office would have more difficult defense. About KY I doubt. I think Beshear and Chandler can have a better chance looking to a senate bid than Conway. Both are more conservative than me (and Conway too), but seem loyal democrats.

Louisiana and Mississippi can be source of gains for the republicans this year still.


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I have
heard someone bring up Chandler a potential candidate. I thought he was a lot older, but he'd only be 54 or 55 when he ran for the senate. While I'd like someone that is probably more liberal, Chandler wouldn't be that bad if he can hold the seat for a few terms.

As far as LA and MS, what races are you talking about?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
In LA and MS the democrats hold the AG and the majority in some state chamber

I doubt the democrats can keep both AG's. In Mississippi J Hood runs for a third term, and in Louisiana J Caldwell runs for his second term.

It seems more difficult still to keep the majority in the State Senate of Louisiana and in the State House of Mississippi.

The State Senate of Mississippi is in tie still if I'm not wrong, but in few weeks can go to the republicans, and the State House of Louisiana change recently.

I'm not optimistic for 2011. I would be so happy if the democrats can keep the governors of West Virginia and Kentucky, and some statewide office more in Kentucky.

More optimistic looking to 2012.


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MI-Sen
Because, Crisitunity seems to subscribe to a very strange kind of pessimism is all I've been able to glean.  A Dem could be over 50% favorability/job performance, and he or she would still not admit to feeling comfortable.  It's good to always be skeptical of the protections of incumbency, particularly in the latter half of this decade, but Crisitunity takes it to a whole other level of paranoia.

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I think
my feelings of Stabenow's vulnerability comes from what happened to Russ Feingold down in Wisconsin. I thought if they couldn't get Tommy Thompson in, Feingold's reelection would be secure. Then came Ron Johnson who comes out of nowhere and proves to be a stronger opponent that Thompson and defeats Feingold by 5 points after leading in the polls for the entire campaign. And with Michigan's new governor "One tough nerd" who came out of the private sector, I approach Stabenow's race with caution. Stabenow will probably pull it out though, she was never as erratic as politican and campaigner as Feingold was, but it helps to be cautious.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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MI
I would be surprised if Stabenow loses barring another red wave, which seems unlikely especially since the electorate won't skew old in a presidential year. Feingold also ran a weak campaign.

41, Ind, CA-05

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I agree
I think it's appropriate to be maybe not pessimistic, but certainly cautious after the drubbing Democrats received last year. We're lucky the Tea Party got people like Bill Brady, Glen Urquhart, Ken Buck, Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, and Carl Paladino on the ballot for statewide office, or it might have been a lot worse.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

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But that wasn't "luck"
It was pure design the GOP nominated so many unelectable candidates... a huge portion of their party is unelectable in any competitive state.

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With Brady it was.
There was a large field and he barely beat the moderate Kirk Dillard, who likely would have won.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Yeah
It wasn't luck, at all.  To me, the Tea Party actually speaks very badly for the future of the Republican Party.  If this is the best they could do in the best year they'll likely have ever, and regular Republicans have been scared into the corner, what's that say about the party?  This wasn't some lucky fluke or bug, this was by design.  They can't possibly milk the tea party anymore than they already have; they could not possibly swing any further to the right and hope for electoral victory as a national party.

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There is no comparing Stabenow to Feingold
Feingold was NEVER popular, not even when he won his first primary, when he was merely not the other guys.

Unless the GOP nominates a very strong candidate, and Romney is the Prez candidate, Stabenow has little to worry about if she acts and campaigns like she has in the past.


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Feingold's entire problem was simply the year......
It was a wave election, and the upper Midwest always has wild swings in waves.  These are states with abnormally large numbers of swing voters, places where in a "neutral" year it's normal for people in a state to go 60-40 for a Democrat for Senate on the same day they go 60-40 for a Republican for Governor.  So in a wave a lot of people from one party get washed out altogether, with no ticket-splitting.

Things have already changed in just a couple months.  Look at Obama's job approvals, he's got a strong bump now.  Even Rasmussen has him at 50-48 today, the first time since 2009 they've had him more than a point above water.  Almost everyone else has Obama in the low 50s now.

I argued here more than once during the last cycle that after the election, the environment would change quickly since voters will have gotten their frustration out of their system.  They got a pound of flesh from our side in the form of giving the GOP the House, and they're done being mad and are ready to give the new equilibrium, including the party they just voted against, a chance.  The lame duck success helped enormously, and I think the tax cut deal helped more than was realized at the time.  The other things, too, helped.  I'm guessing DADT repeal played better with our rank-and-file base than with the netroots, who have remained ungrateful malcontents with constant gripes as far as I can tell.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
That makes
a lot of sense.


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Rasmussen
52-47 today. Amazing.

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He's having an "oh shit!" moment, for two reasons......
First, he's beside himself that Obama's real approval rating is back in the 50s.

Second, he has to change his math again to make sure his numbers are only slightly worse than the rest, especially after the last election exposed his fraud.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Would you say
Feingold was caught napping?


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Very long nap then....
Polls showed him trailing as early as July.... And the closer we got to the election, the worse it looked. He was down 4 to 8 points in all October polls and lost by 5. With three months advance warning. But he can still try to succeed Kohl in 2012.  

31, Dem - NM-03 currently in France

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I didn't mean him, but
rather a lot of people. Maybe I am just seeing the same few people write the same sort of thing over and over again, but it seems like any time we are seeing a Democrat with mediocre approval ratings, he or she is in trouble, according to a lot of people here. There are certainly reasons why this might end up being true, but there's no particular reason to think it has to be true, especially since it only seems to apply to Democrats.


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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I think Ds here work hard to avoid the "echo chamber"
Nevertheless, I'd guess the average prediction here for D House losses before the '10 election (is there data from one of the contests?) was at worst, in the 40s.

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2010 projections
IIRC the average was more like 50 in the last three weeks. 40 was the trend some six weeks before the election. Ironically only Election Projection (a die-hard Rep) got it right when he predicted a 64 seat loss.  

31, Dem - NM-03 currently in France

[ Parent ]
Scott Eliot (the Election Projection guy)
has an excellent record in congressional races, EV projections, etc, back to '04.

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Well that was the average...
...Provided we exclude user Mark's chicken little prediciton of 93 lol.

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I just don't
understand why Democrats can't be as nimble as the Republicans: plan for the best and the worst, and adjust as the conditions become more clear.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Ditto.


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[ Parent ]
Kaine left plenty of wiggle room regarding VA-Sen...
If Webb backs out, it would be easy for Kaine to change his mind.

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Yup
We as a community do need to stop acting that because a politician says they aren't running at one point in time that they are somehow forbidden from changing their minds in the future.  

[ Parent ]
Stabenow
Must have been a great county commissioner to successfully primary a State Rep.  I know she was a great State Rep, and a pretty good State Senator.  Since going to Washington ... she seems a little more generic.

I still expect her to win anything that looks like it could be a tie, but she is now more vulnerable to waves or great opposition.  

The thing is, I'm pretty sure that great opponent doesn't exist, and if there is a wave strong enough to actually topple her, the question will probably be whether or not Republicans have a filibuster-proof majority to go with the Presidency.


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