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SSP Daily Digest: 5/21 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Fri May 21, 2010 at 4:18 PM EDT


CO-Sen: Colorado's state party conventions are this weekend. Most of the drama is on the Democratic side in the Senate race -- actually, even there, it's not that dramatic, as underdog Andrew Romanoff is expected to prevail at the convention because of his connections to party insiders and his former fellow legislators (and also based on his performance at precinct-level caucuses). Michael Bennet is still expected to meet the 30% threshold that gets him on the ballot without signatures, though, and victory here for Romanoff may be pyrrhic anyway, as the Dem convention winners have fared poorly in the actual primary (ex-Sen. Ken Salazar, for instance, lost the 2004 convention to Mike Miles). The GOP convention should be less interesting because, realizing they have little hope among the revved-up base, establishment-flavored Jane Norton and Tom Wiens aren't bothering, simply opting to qualify for the primary by petition, so Weld Co. DA and Tea Party fave Ken Buck is expected to romp.

CT-Sen, CT-Gov: Likewise, the state conventions are scheduled for this weekend in Connecticut as well. Although there's a competitive battle in the Dem convention on the gubernatorial side between Ned Lamont and Dan Malloy, it seems like all eyes will be on Richard Blumenthal instead, to see if there's any sort of challenge to him that pops up (other than the minor candidacy of Merrick Alpert). If someone is going to get drafted as a last-minute Blumenthal replacement, it doesn't look like it's going to be the newly-freed-up Susan Bysiewicz, who, seemingly caught off-guard by this week's Supreme Court ruling about her AG eligibility, is now saying she won't run for anything in 2010. There's also the Senate face-off in the GOP convention, where ex-Rep. Rob Simmons' connections and institutional support will be measured up against Linda McMahon's gigantic wealth; McMahon, for her part, is back to touting her camp's leak of the Blumenthal story to the NYT after hiding it yesterday.

FL-Sen: Charlie Crist couldn't square his support for Elena Kagan today with his opposition to Sonia Sotomayor, telling the Miami Herald that he really couldn't recall why he opposed Sotomayor. (Um, maybe because he was a Republican back then?) On the plus side, Crist is coming out in favor of the Fair Districts initiatives on the ballot this November, which would smooth out the most pernicious tendencies toward gerrymandering and thus is strongly opposed by the state's large Republican legislative majorities.

IL-Sen: Hmmm, I wonder where this ranks on the hierarchy of misstating your military credentials? Rep. Mark Kirk told a gathering last May that "I command the war room in the Pentagon." Kirk does have a high-profile role in the National Military Command Center, but the war room is run by one-star general, and that's something that Kirk most definitely is not. Let's see what the NYT does with this one.

KY-Sen: After a bad news day yesterday, Rand Paul is continuing to run his mouth, whining about how he was supposed to get a media honeymoon after Tuesday's Randslide, and also going the full Bachmann against Barack Obama, saying it "sounds Unamerican" for him to be criticizing BP over its massive oil spill because "accidents sometimes happen." (So that "B" in BP stands for American Petroleum now?) Paul is scheduled for this weekend's Meet the Press, for what his handlers hope is damage control but may turn into extended hole-digging.

Paul also expounded yesterday on the Americans with Disabilities Act, and he should be lucky the media were too fixated yesterday on his Civil Rights Act statements to provide any fact-checking about his bizarre ignorance of the ADA. Paul's example of the ADA's suckage is that it would be reasonable, if an employee used a wheelchair at a two-story business, to just give that person a first-floor office instead of forcing the employer to install an elevator at terrible cost. That's true; it would be "reasonable" -- which is exactly why the ADA asks employers to provide "reasonable accommodation" to disabled employees, a prime example of which might be letting someone work on a lower floor. Removal of architectural barriers is not required if it isn't "readily achievable" (in other words, easily accomplished, without much difficulty or expense) -- which means, grab bars in the bathroom stall or a curb cut, yes, an elevator in an old two-story building, no. Paul's attack on the ADA seems entirely based on having failed to, as the teabaggers have often urged us to do, "read the bill."

NC-Sen: There's a late-in-the-game shakeup at the Cal Cunningham camp, as his campaign manager and communications director are out the door. Cunningham's spokesperson says it's a necessary retooling for the different nature of the runoff, with less focus on the air war and more on grassroots and shoe-leather.

PA-Sen: Sigh. The DSCC, which isn't exactly rolling in money these days, spent $540K in coordinated expenditures trying to prop up one-year Democrat Arlen Specter in his 54-46 loss to Joe Sestak in the primary.

MN-Gov: Margaret Anderson Kelliher reached across the aisle, or at least in the pool of bipartisan budget wonkery, for a running mate, picking John Gunyou. Gunyou was the finance commissioner for Republican Gov. Arne Carlson; he also worked as finance director for Minneapolis mayor Don Fraser and is currently city manager of the suburb of Minnetonka.

CO-07: The GOP already had its district-level convention in the 7th, as a prelude to the statewide convo. The two main rivals, Lang Sias and Ryan Frazier, both cleared the 30% mark to get on the ballot; the minor candidates didn't clear the mark and won't try to get on by petition. Frazier got 49%, while Sias got 43%. Sias's nomination was seconded by ex-Rep. Tom Tancredo, as well as the 7th's former Rep. Bob Beauprez.

CT-04: Thom Hermann, the First Selectman of Easton and a guy with a lot of wealth at his disposal, is making his presence known in the GOP primary field in the 4th, heading into the weekend's convention. He's out with an internal poll, via Wilson Research, giving him a large lead over presumed frontrunner state Sen. Dan Debicella among those primary voters who've decided. It's reported in a strange, slightly deceptive way, though: he has a 44-25 lead over Debicella among those who've decided, but only 36% have decided! (So by my calculations, it's more like a 16-9 lead in reality?)

FL-02: Dem Rep. Allen Boyd seems to be taking nothing for granted this year. He's already up with his second TV ad against his underfunded primary opponent, state Sen. Al Lawson, this time hitting Lawson for votes to cut back funding for healthcare and construction jobs. (J)

HI-01: We're up to 48% of all ballots having been returned in the 1st, with tomorrow being the deadline in the all-mail-in special election to replace Neil Abercrombie (152K out of 317K).

ID-02: I have no idea what this is about, but I thought I'd put it out there, as it's one of the weirdest IEs we've seen in a while. Not only did someone plunk down $8K for polling in the 2nd, one of the most reliably Republican top-to-bottom districts anywhere where Rep. Mike Simpson only ever faces token opposition, but the money's from the American Dental Association. Making sure Idahoans are brushing properly?

IN-03: State Sen. Marlin Stutzman made it official today: he's running in the special election for the seat just vacated by Rep. Mark Souder. Having performed well in the Senate primary (and having had a path cleared for him by Mike Pence's lowering of the boom on Souder), he looks like the one to beat here.

PA-07: Former local TV news anchor Dawn Stensland has decided to forego a vaguely-threatened independent run in the 7th. That leaves it a one-on-one battle between Dem Bryan Lentz and GOPer Pat Meehan.

PA-12: The GOP seems to have settled on its preferred explanation for trying to spin away its underwhelming performance in the special election in the 12th, via their polling guru Gene Ulm. It's all Ed Rendell's fault, for scheduling it on the same day as the Senate primary, causing all those Joe Sestak supporters (of which there were many in that corner in Pennsylvania) to come out of the woodwork and vote in the 12th while they were at it.

Unions: Now that's a lot of lettuce. Two major unions are promising to spend almost $100 million together to preserve Democratic majorities this fall. The AFSCME is promising $50 million and the SEIU is planning $44 million.

Enthusiasm Gap: This is something I've often suspected, but never felt like bringing up because the numbers weren't there to prove the point (and also perhaps because saying so would put me at odds with the general netroots orthodoxy): the Democratic "enthusiasm gap" isn't so much borne out of dissatisfaction with the insufficient aggressiveness of the Obama administration or the slow pace of getting watered-down legislation out of Congress as much as it's borne out of complacency. In other words, there's the sense by casual/irregular/low-information Dem voters that they did their job in 2008, got the country back on track, things are slowly improving, and because they aren't angry anymore they don't need to keep following up. PPP backs this up: among those "somewhat excited " or "not very excited" about voting in November, Obama's approval is a higher-than-average 58/35, and their supports for the health care bill is also a higher-than-average 50/38.

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Rep. Mike Simpson
is a dentist that has strong ties to the American Dentist Association, so I guess that they're looking after their own.

For what it's worth, Simpson supposedly is a leader against "meth mouth" which is acquired by active used of, well, meth.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


Ah, thanks
See, there's a reasonable explanation for almost everything.

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No prob :)


NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

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Simpson
has been a real champion in advocacy for dental health. I would really like to see him in the Senate someday.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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How does he advocate for dental health?
As a conservative Republican, he's against guaranteed national dental insurance, I would think, isn't he?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Well
I will admit that regardless of his views it would be nice to see a fellow Dentist in the Senate.  Yeah I would say he is against it but other matters he does seems to fight for us. He also voted for SCHIP after all. Also definitely not all Dentist favor a national dental insurance program. When I said I would like him in the Senate I just figured no Democrat could get elected and plain and simply given the choice between another conservative Republican or a conservative (although he has an independent streak to him) Republican who will friendly to the Dental community I would chose Simpson.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Well
I will admit that regardless of his views it would be nice to see a fellow Dentist in the Senate.  Yeah I would say he is against it but other matters he does seems to fight for us. He also voted for SCHIP after all. Also definitely not all Dentist favor a national dental insurance program. When I said I would like him in the Senate I just figured no Democrat could get elected and plain and simply given the choice between another conservative Republican or a conservative (although he has an independent streak to him) Republican who will friendly to the Dental community I would chose Simpson.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Dental Plan
Lisa needs braces

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

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So long dental plan
Lisa needs braces.

(Sorry to correct, its just when you wrote that I could really hear Lenny and Marge's voices lol).


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NOOOOO
that's going to be stuck in my head all day now.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

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On another note,
I instantly feel better about Bryan Luntz's chances. With Sestak at the top of the ticket, I think there are going to be heavy coattails.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

Yeah
I'm pretty much convinced that Lentz is going to win against Meehan now that Sestak is going to be up-ballot.  Unless the governor's and senate races are runaway wins for the republicans, I really don't know that Meehan has a path to victory.  Sure, Delaware County is a bit more Republican at the local level (I know, because my dad and a bunch of my extended family is from Ridley Park, which is in PA-07), but this is a county that went 61-37 for Obama, and a district that went 56-43 for O as well.  Lentz is about as strong a recruit as Team Blue could find here as far as I'm concerned.

It will take either massive republican turnout, or huge coattails up-ballot to counteract Sestak being on the ballot.  Maybe Ryan in Delco could provide some greater insight on Meehan's personal popularity.  

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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Without getting into all the specific districts
The PA Dem status improved immensely on May 18th.

Sestak's win really should have big coattails in a lot of places, not only the Philly burbs but hopefully elsewhere as well.  Having the Gov nominee Onorato be from Pittsburgh might help extract more Dem voters in that region as well.  Each could help each other, which is why i think Onorato is a slight favorite right now.

As for the congressional races I could see Sestak helping Critz, btu Critz' incumbency will help also.  Trivedi winning could help push Gerlach out the door, but he'll need to run a perfect campaign (or hope Gerlach's campaign is lackluster which mgiht happen too).  I'm not sure Sestak can carry Trivedi mroe than Obama almost helped carry Murphy against Gerlach in 2008.

I also think DCCC will be all over Kanjorski to run a good campaign, and I think Dahlkemper will be stronger than expected.

Just imagine, Biden and Obama doing ralleis for Sestak in Philly, Pittsburgh, etc.  Bill Clinton doing pro-Sestak rallies in Western PA.  The perfect storm could be lining up in PA for a counter to this anti-incumbent wave everyone is spouting off about.  

Barring crazy gaffes by Sestak, I expect Sestak to win by a big margin, Onorato to pull out a win, and the Dems to hold all of their Congress seats and pick up Gerlach's.  I could also see Dem's holding the State house, which would be helpful in re-districting also.

Then again, I'm a believer that PA is more DEM than most people realize...


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Don't forget about Dent.
That race is promising, too.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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How well like was Sestak in his
district?  Enough to drive people to come out and vote for him for a different office?

And I think you're very optimistic here.


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About 1% than the rest of the state
See link at bottom of thread.

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Bob Roggio was Gerlach's Dem opponent in 2008
Lois Murphy ran in 2006... though your point is germane, as Roggio barely ran a campaign at all and came within 5 points.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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Sorry about that
It seemed like it was Murphy vs. Gerlach every election lol, but she pased last time around.  The two of them had more and some of the worst (i.e.e negative) ads I've seen since I've lived in Philly.  Both sides were equally awful too.

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PA-07
I'm moderately optimistic as well, but let's not pretend that Tuesday's developments represent an unvarnished good for our PA-07 prospects. Sestak and Lentz share Dem constituencies, and will compete for resources, in particular volunteers and donations. Trivedi and Lentz will also be competing for same, in particular on the finance side.

This is going to be a close race. The Delco GOP are really cocky about their chances to 'reclaim' the district however, so let's hope they get complacent. And most importantly, let's not become complacent ourselves.  


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Plenty of money in the Philly burbs
I definitely could see there being pletny of money and volunteers to go around in the Philly burbs.  Lets face it, the money and volunteers can come from the burbs themselves and the city since there's nothing competitive congressionally in the city proper this cycle.

I don't see a lot fo ticket splitting, but who knows.  Its why we need Onorato to run a good campaign as well...


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Don't read too much into Sestak being able to help Lentz...
Few are mentioning this, but Republicans turned out in greater numbers in PA-7 than did Democrats.  This is not a complete shock since the district does have a slight Republican registration advantage, but the fact is that the Republicans had little to show up for on May 18.  

In addition, there were a decent number of undervotes on the Democratic side when it came to the US House race in PA-7.  More than on the Republican side.  I am willing to guess that the number of undervotes indicate that either someone does not like their candidate or likes the other side's candidate.  There is definitely a history of ticket splitting in this district too.

The same thing happened in PA-8.  More Republicans showed up to vote than did Democrats even though the Democrats have a registration advantage in the district.  Some would suggest that having a Republican running for Lt. Governor from Bucks County helped drive turnout, but I am not sure that Lt. Governor drives turnout.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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For downballot races like that that don't get much billing
it would all depend on the fame of the local candidate itself.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Its funny
When I used this logic to suggest Kanjorksi's district was trending Dem a lot of people on here said it didn't mean anything.

In PA-07, Meehan got 9,000 more votes than Lentz.
In PA-08, Reps got about 44,000 to the Dems 40,000
In PA-11, Reps got abotu 29,000 to the Dems 68,000

To me this really points to Kanjo having the opportunity to really runa  good campaign and earn his next term.  The results in PA-07 and PA-08 don't worry me as the vote margins are minor really.  

Your point on undervotes is very intriguing and soemthing important that I hadn't noticed.  But without knowing why, I dont know what to make of it.  Bucks (PA-08) also had decent undervotes for Governor compared to Senator too.  And huge undervotes for Lieutenant Governor which is perplexing.  I twould surprise me if Murphy lost with a nearby congressman running for Senate and both being military guys, but we shall keep an eye on this one.

I think we really have to look at the overall message of the primaries, which is very debateable.  Its definitely more opinion/interpretation than anything.  Using the primary results from one district to portend a future outcome for other districts wouldn't help us all too much.  

There are methodologies and assumptions that would say Kanjorski will win in a lnadslide, Lentz will lose, Tim Murphy will be upset, Dahlkemper will lose, Paul Carney could lose, etc and I'd disagree with all of these.  


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I'd rather have Specter on our side for the
year at the cost of $540,000 then have him been a Republican for the past year.

Agree
$540,000= HCR Passed
Considering the multi millions poured in against HCR I don't think 540K is too bad.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I wish Tim Russert was still around ...
... Rand Paul wouldn't have a prayer to not look like an extremist.  

Apparently
He is trying to get out of it. Can you say car crash? Cannot wait for the Conway ads!

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I
live in the Louisville media market and I can tell you he has been getting awful press. He comes off as really extreme and racist. If you start to google Paul it automatically has the VRA thing  pop up as the first option and Paul was a "most popular search" on google even today. With Conway as the nominee I feel safe to move this back to a tossup.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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A Conway win
Probably kills the Tea Party in one fell swoop. Such is the problem being the face of these things.

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Agree somewhat
If you cant win in KY as a tea-bagger, pretty much the only places left are UT and the Deep South.  And even then, MS is going to be tough because we can always be competitive in an open race with a solid conservative white candidate due to the state being a third black and GA is trending our way because of the ATL.

I think regardless, the tea-baggers will be around at least through the 2012 election.  This has always been about our big scary black President and they'll be around as long as we have a black guy in the WH.  Wait for HIllary to run in 2016, win, and then it'll be all about the "bitch" instead of the "nigger", too.  Although considering how Hillary's numers were competitive in TN and KY (with AR being a blow-out of course), maybe she wouldnt be such a big target.  50% of the population is female so hopefully people in the South can at least adapt to a woman president vs someone many people in the South still remember refusing to serve, school, or share a bus seat with.

I still cant believe Obama squeaked out NC; considering how white Southerners have reacted to him with their tea-baggery, the man needs to go down in history not only as the first black president but also one of the most talented politicians in history.  A black man winning NC in 2008 is probably going to be one of the most beautiful things I'll ever see in politics.


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....
Such a broad brush.

Instead of a long drawn out response that'll just turn this into a debate leading no where, I'll just hope that someone else steps in and says something.

Andrew, I enjoy reading your posts, though not surprisingly I disagree many times. You can do better than this.


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I certainly did paint an extremely broad brush
And generalized the shit out of the South.  I certainly recognize that there are people like you who absolutely do not fit into the "racist Southern" meme and in fact, I really hate categorizing the South as racist as a whole.

However, I dont think I am totally inaccurate in this categorizing.  Someone had posted LA counties' McCain/Obama totals and compared this to White/Black voter percentages and them being matched almost down to the percentage-point is telling.  My generalization isnt 100% and considering the demographics of the tea-bagging segment, my generalization that White southern racism paved the way for the tea-bagging segment of people who only bitch about a problem when its a black man causing them instead of a white man, it certainly seems extremely accurate without an in-depth study to say otherwise.


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Sorry
I sincerely hope I didn't sound excusatory or anything. It's obvious you don't think all southerns or those below the poverty line are racist, I just wanted to make that clear. Your post contains many insightful views as a whole.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Hell, I dont think Im inaccurate at all (I didnt like how weak I made my point)
in saying the tea-bagging movement was completely borne out of white southern racism.  I'll defend that statement until the day I die or a study says otherwise.  And the polls are definitely on my side in this regard.

I desperately wish I could say positive things about the tea-bagger movement and how great of an example they are in citizen participation in the political process; but the likely fact is, the majority of them are simply a bunch of fucking racists who deserve zero respect in political politeness or correctness.  And their mentality is heavily concentrated in the South, the South has obviously had century long issues with racial intolerance and acceptance; like I said above, until the dots say otherwise, Im going to connect them and come to this conclusion.


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I
will admit that at a Tea Party I went by I saw someone with a sign that said "Send the N word back to the cotton field" with a picture of Obama on it. I saw it there early in the morning and late that afternoon it was still there. It seems to me someone would have told them to get rid of it. But no. I really don't think the Tea Party is that big of movement or one at all really. I think it is way over hyped by the MSM and Fox News.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I went to a tea party rally
in Harford County Maryland (exurbs north east of Baltimore) and there weren't any racist signs. There were two people who had 9/11 for truth t-shirts on but that was out of, literally, dozens of people. Most of the speeches were about gov't debt and increases in spending. Do some, or most, of the people there probably have some cognitive dissonance regarding gov't spending, sure, but it was a completely nonviolent protest with a bunch of citizens expressing their views. Maybe my experience wasn't typical and Harford County is more Northeastern than Southern, but I don't think the majority of tea party goers are horribly racist. I think you are being kind of judgmental but that is just me, obviously.
Finally, there are going to be loonies and purveyors of malfeasance that latch onto all movements. I just don't think that most people who show up at tea party rallies are doing so with the mind set of "man am I angry a black person is in the White House."  

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I'll give this a shot
I'm a dammyankee who lived in coastal NC for a few years.

I grew up in the north thinking that all southerners were no better than a step away from racism. But then I fell in love with a liberal lady in SanFran who took me back to her home in SC and taught me something of the conflicts, how good the races can be with each other on a personal level, but how those in power (and the voters behind them) support systems that perpetuate problems. So we eventually moved to NC.

Much of this, I had to learn on my own, as Nancy died 1.5 years after moving to NC, which I diaried here http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

What I observed was a lot of whites who believed they've overcome their past. But they absolutely hate what they see as "outsiders" and especially "dammyankees" who meddle in their affairs.

In other words, the ah --unity-- that's seen among southern R whites is reactionary (at least in my experience). It's the kind of thing that shows up as anger, sometimes genteel, sometimes more vicious.

Yet they get along in unexpected ways. Nancy's favorite niece is a lesbian in SC, and she always spoke highly of Strom Thurmond, of all people. It was back to that one on one thing.

It comes up in SC, in the diversity of people who eat at -- and/or avoid Maurice's BBQ - an institution in Columbia of someone who would make Rand Paul proud. The literature in his stores is rather frightening, suggesting that the south should never have surrendered, etc. For some years, Maurice avoided outside products, to avoid the Interstate Commerce Clause (and thus the associated Civil Rights Acts). But many people of left of center politics in SC still ate there. (And many did not)

So while the great majority of southern whites have overcome past racism, they do fall backwards in reaction -- normally without realizing it. And in general they're able to turn it off in their regular lives, interacting whatever their color.


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In
response please ignore my impersonation of rednecks in general on the open thread it is an attempt at humor. I am a Dentist by trait and I volunteer some of my time each month on a project where they get Dentists to volunteer to drive an RV equipped with a Dental office of sorts into the poorest parts of Appalachia in Kentucky to give free dental help to the people there.  I usually go with an African American friend of mine and we have never encountered any harshness from the people because of his race. They are nice people who have it bad. I am not stupid and I know racism is still very much alive but for the most part these are good people who aren't racists and aren't as bad as you stereotype them. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your main points I just don't like it when people clump all of the poor into one large group.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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It's far from certain that Hillary Clinton
will either run or win in 2016.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Wow, Paul actually did cancel from MTP. He's only the 3rd guest in 62 years
to do so! An amazing stat.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...

"Exhaustion" What a lame excuse.


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And what a triumverate they are
Louis Farrakhan, Prince Bandar and Rand Paul. That would be some dinner party!  

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Jeez
My spelling gets worse the older I get!

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Wow I expected Paul to have problems with
his campaign and that he might eventually lose but:
A) I never thought it would happen this soon and
B) that the implosion would be so spectacular

I really hope he blows it so that it makes Demint and Erickson look like total tools.  


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Im just going to simmer in this awesome comment
You've proven what Ive been thinking for two years, the GOP is going to tear itself apart by hating moderate mavericks like McCain and take the entirely wrong tact with how to win; go as far to the right as possible to contrast positions instead of realizing McCain got within 7% because he was by far the best candidate the GOP had.  If it had been a trusted conservative like Huckabee, it would have been a solid 10%-15% blowout and McCain only failed because he had Bush before him and the economy was going down the shitter.  The book "Game Change" spells this out really clearly and explains why McCain made such erratic decisions like choosing Palin; it was either that or run a traditional campaign and get blown out of the water 60-40.

The GOP is doing the exact opposite of what it takes to win nationwide and statewide (Senate and Governor races); they arent running to the middle post-primary and are instead showcasing the extreme conservatism it took to win the primaries.  This is the complete opposite of how you win state/nation wide, and Im sure I could cite a book that perfectly explains this is the opposite but Im not even going to bother trying to find one; it' that basic.

What I worry about is that the undecideds are so pissed off about the current situation that they'll throw whoever is currently in power (Democrats) out the door blindly and elect people like Paul and Angle out of fear or Ayotte and Norton out of ignorance; those two are complete blank slates and Im pretty disgusted with how they've campaigned without acknowledging the issues, once.

This election cycle is going to be extremely revealing and exciting regardless.  If the GOP wins big, it'll be a marker for when a party ran to its wings and won vs the center.  (Maybe this reflects the 1930's where everyone was pissed about the economy and took it out on the opposing party and the Dems got to run hard left.  I dunno, Im not 80-something nor a political historian.)


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I understand what you are saying in the comment
and, and for the most part, I agree. I don't understand you mean by the "You've proven what Ive been thinking for two years." Is it the whole thing about hoping Paul loses so that Erickson and Demint look like d-bags?

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I think it's more along the lines of making the Tea Party as a whole look bad.


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Thanks for the clarification
n/t

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More so the greater divide in the GOP
Ever since Coulter called Hillary "our gal", I knew it was game on and that the GOP would be engaging in cannibalism for the foreseeable future.   I'll go into my whole thinking since my bf and I are just sitting at home on a Friday night watching old episodes of Glee, so I've got an hour or two to type it out  and dink around.  I start out strong and opinionated, so watch out.

On social issues, Im clearly going to win as a gay, pro-choice person.  The abortion issue has been a bit of a draw with a lean slide back to pro-lifers, but the GOP will most likely never have anything even close to the astronomical win of Roe v Wade, and in the current draw status, liberals overall win and will for the foreseeable future. W/r/t the gay rights issue, the GOP are risking losing my generation and the foreseeable generations by being so vehemently anti-gay; my male homosexuality has been so highly prized amongst women its ridiculous.  Even at my strict'ish Catholic Univ alma mater, I was "the gay guy" everyone wanted to be friends with and get drunk with.  There have been gains here and there no doubt, but in the long run, the GOP are totally fucked to put it lightly w/r/t LGBTQ issues.  The GOP may end up only look slightly better than the segment of people who fought against women getting the right to vote and a bigger step ahead than the slave owning, segregating South if they keep up their piss poor attitude about LGBTQers.

And much more importantly, we cant decide if we'd rather cut taxes or cut government expenditures. We collectively dont want our government benefits cut (Social Security, why HCR will be non-repealable once implemented) and we also collectively want our taxes cut.  What do we do?  It's a total tug-of-war and dumbasses like Bush or my Gov. Pawlenty dance in the middle and cut taxes and dont cut spending so they just pass the buck or add to the deficit.

The problem for the GOP and where the divide occurs is that there is a giant moderate base that doesnt take the conservative position to such an unreasonable fucked up position where they recite Bible verses, think our President was born in Kenya and think we need to cut the Dept of Education and Social Security to make the country run better.  I think this is seen in suburban areas in established metro areas, and newly growing urban centers (Twin Cities, Philly, Denver, Orlando, Research Triangle, Charlotte, Charleston, Atlanta, the OC, Columbus, NOVA, Dallas, Houston, Austin).  These areas will support tax increases if it means awesome public schools and they'll have an after-work drink with their same-sex couple next-door neighbors.

So my belief is that when it comes down to it, what's deemed a "pure" conservative belief is not going to be a winning ideology in an increasing manner. And I didnt even mention immigration, which brings in AZ, NV and NM as well.


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Oh, and I forgot to mention Boise!
ID is DOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!   :)

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Bloomberg is a good example
of someone who won an election by spending huge amounts of money, without anyone really knowing what he would be like as, in his case, Mayor. To a lesser extent, the latter may have been true of Giuliani, too. Bloomberg defeated a Democrat who ran a horrible campaign and alienated the supporters of Ferrer, who he barely beat for the Democratic nomination. Giuliani won a narrow victory against a Democratic incumbent who had occasioned wide revulsion or at least disaffection as a perceived incompetent and, in the opinions of many, unwilling or/and unable to protect non-blacks in situations of rioting. (Please note that I'm doing my best to carefully describe perceptions here and don't mean to be argumentative about their accuracy. I say that merely to head off any arguments on Dinkins' record at the pass.)

The specific examples I give relate to local politics, but the general application is that unknown quantities can win elections with sufficient money and a bad campaign or/and record by their opponents.

There are many, many counter-examples, though, including Mike Huffington in California.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Isn't "exhaustion"
the reason that Hollywood PR people always offer as why their clients are going into rehab?

[ Parent ]
PA-12
I'm sure the primary made a difference to the margin but I very much doubt the result.

Ulm - "The Democratic primary prevented the turnout depression we have seen in other races this year..."

Problem is November 2nd will see the same spike. Nice spin though. Speaking of which...

"No matter how Democrats want to spin it, losing a seat in Obama's childhood district would be a bitter pill to swallow."

Frickin' hypocrite!


At least Charlie Cook seems (mostly) honest about PA-12
at http://www.cookpolitical.com/

The surprising breadth of Democrat Mark Critz's 53 percent to 45 percent victory in the PA-12 special election has set off alarm bells at the NRCC, as well it should. Both the national climate and the nature of the district argued that Republicans should have won, and even if they lost, they shouldn't have lost by eight points.

Though I hope he explains this quote from April of his in the rest of the article (behind his paid firewall)

Timing is no excuse for Republicans either. This special election, not the competitive statewide Democratic primaries held the same day, will be driving turnout on May 18th.


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I think what will happen is...
Dems will remain in the majority but with a more conservative caucus. 1994 again in the sense of incumbents surviving where they have been voting their district. On the hand people will lose in what appear to be more favorable seats. And the netroots will hate it.

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Couple more points
Cook seems to hint at what you suggest later in the extract.

"Some Republicans now argue that the scheduling of the race on primary day made it unwinnable, but nearly all concede the GOP failed mechanically as well."

Plus, Dems pushback on the specifics.

"33 percent of registered Democrats in Pennsylvania's 12th showed up to vote on Tuesday, compared to 20 percent in the rest of the state and 21 percent in Sestak's 7th district near Philadelphia."

In other words turnout in the district was driven by the special and not the primary.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...


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I just thought of this
PA-12 has a huge Democratic voter registration (not sure on the exact numbers), but a lot of these folks are social conservatives who have been splitting their tickets for this past decade (e.g. Murtha/McCain votes.) So a lot of registered Democrats vote Republican here.

With these week's election, whether it was the special or the primary that brought voters to the polls, they wound up voting in both. And all these registered Democrats were taking the Democratic ballot and voting for Onorato, Sestak or Specter, and Mark Critz to be the nominees for November before they even got to the special election line itself. Thus, the primary may not have driven Democratic turnout, but it may have given Critz some serious downballot help, especially since all these people had just voted for him on the line above. That could explain why Burns didn't get the Democratic support he needed to win.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


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I think the reverse is true
The 33% D turnout in PA-12 helped Sestak pad his margin, in a way that did not happen overall,

as statewide D turnout was only 21%.

aka - it was reverse coattails

I don't see any PA-12 breakdown of Sestak/Specter, but the big individual counties seemed to be at or over the statewide margin.

Without the PA-12 district data on the statewide primary, I don't know how much of a difference it made.  


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Agree
Makes perfect sense.

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Smaller=More Liberal
Dems will remain in the majority but with a more conservative caucus. 1994 again in the sense of incumbents surviving where they have been voting their district.

I think this is highly unlikely to happen. According to Voteview the median House Democrat is currently DeFazio (or thereabouts, depending on how Deutch and Critz vote). Does anyone honestly think that Republicans will win in more seats (incumbents & open) to Defazio's left than to his right? Because that is what needs to happen in order for the caucus to move to the right while losing seats.

As far as 1994 goes, most of the seats lost then were, well the most vulnerable ones. And insofar as PVI correlates with ideology, that means more conservatives will lose.

As a general rule, whenever a party gains seats it moves towards the center, whenever it loses seats it moves away.  


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I don't think that super-red seats are significantly more likely to be lost than mildly-red seats
Part of the reason is that, for us to hold super-red seats, our candidates generally had to be at least somewhat worth their salt, while weaker candidates are more likely to slip through on more marginal districts.

That said, it all really comes down to the individual politicians running.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
If people like Minnick and Bright survive
While the likes of Kilroy and Titus lose I don't see how anybody can seriously argue the balance of power within the caucus won't shift to the right.

[ Parent ]
Here's how...
Minnick and Bright are very conservative, but Kilroy and Titus are more conservative than the median. So if ANY of them lose, the caucus median vote moves to the left.

Of course it's possible that Dems in super-red districts fare better than Dems in moderate red districts, but I would be surprised. Call me crazy, but everything else equal I think an R+15 district is more likely to flip to red than and R+5. Of course there are always exceptions. But look at the HVI and tell me I'm wrong.


[ Parent ]
Candidate quality is a big factor
Minnick is likely going to face an opponent who doesn't know the legal status of Puerto Rico and Bright is probably going up against somebody who isn't lighting the world on fire with their fund raising. Compare this to Stivers who is a pretty good candidate and has actually raised some money. Generally, the more Republican districts will flip but candidates and campaigns matter. Look at PA-6 and NM-1 in 2006 for example.  

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To some extent, it depends on whether the election is nationalized
A nationalized election will increase the importance of PVI.
In addition, one of the drawbacks of a nationalized election is that it's more likely to lead to a wave, putting the majority at risk.

OTOH, I think the election will be mostly 435 local races. In that case, candidate quality is everything. And our losses will be limited.

The few indicators we have so far are special elections - with a lot of national attention. PA-12. NY-23. NY-20. They've turned on local factors. But these are just in the NE.

I think one of the lessons of PA-12 is that the Rs don't currently have the moxie to make that happen -- and/or the Ds are successfully parrying such tactics. I mean, outside of people who listen to Rush, how many voters know who is Nancy Pelosi? aka, running against her is IMO going to be ineffective.


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I'll say this much
If you told me that the Dems had to lose two of the four seats mentioned here, I would sure as hell like to keep Titus and Kilroy as opposed to Minnick and Bright.  Way more value in keeping solid liberal votes in the swing districts as opposed to conservadems in the republican bastions.  


23, Male, Democrat, OH-13

[ Parent ]
The spin on PA-12
The fact the NRCC thought they could take this seat really shows how much the Republicans have fallen for the social conservative = Republican BS.  Regardless of its performance in presidential elections, the Democrats have done well in practically every other race from Governor down to township supervisor in PA-12.  I really do not know why this is so hard for people to understand.

Many in their analysis are refusing to examine some basic facts:
1)  Where are the Democrats losing votes in the races since Obama was elected?  

Suburban areas.  The Democrats got crushed in suburban DC and pretty much everywhere in New Jersey except the urban cores in November.  Coakley lost suburban and exurban Mass to Brown.  The Democrats took a real beating in the PA judicial elections last fall in the Philly suburbs.  These areas are historically Republican and really only went Democratic because the Republican Party was dominated by southern hicks.

2)  Where are the Democrats not losing votes in the races since Obama was elected?

Rural and urban areas.  Pretty much every special election for the House has occurred in these regions.  Coakley did well in MA-1, which is the rural district that covers the western part of the state.  These areas love big government even if they deny it.  Rural America has become welfare addict on par with urban America.

This means the Republicans will more likely take seats like PA-7 and PA-8, but lose seats like PA-4 and PA-12.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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I agree with everything you said
But would point out that MA-01, though rural, in no way typifies rural America. It is very much like an extension of Vermont and is the second most liberal district in the state, after the Boston-based MA-08.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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I agree and disagree
Yes the Dems have backslid in the suburbs, but I think you might be exaggerating it a bit. Deeds only narrowly lost Fairfax County and I believe he did better there relative to his statewide performance than Obama, which is telling since Obama probably had more of a NoVA-based campaign.

Coakley did not really lose the Boston suburbs. The margins she posted in places like Newton and Lexington weren't terribly different from a normal Dem performance, and she even won Natick and Wellesley both of which I think voted for Romney in 2002. The places where she got killed were the more "exurban" places (aka pretty much everywhere outside of Boston and the suburbs).

As for New Jersey, Corzine actually won suburban Bergen County (the state's largest) even though it generally votes less Democratic than the state as a whole.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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Senate
On a macro level, given the Democrats'  improved position in each of several Republican held seats, I could see a situation where the Republicans gain 3-4 seats overall (with significant turnover throughout the races, i.e. many seats switching) but the Democrats' long-term (i.e. next election) prospects being improved.

Right now it looks like Kentucky, Ohio, and North Carolina are very winnable seats for the Democrats. Not sure bets by any means, but they could conceivably end up in Democratic hands. Those wins, unlike many (though not all) Republican wins would be based not on weak candidates riding the wave but on strong candidates (those with more staying power) beating the wave.  This means that more of the newly elected Democrats would be able to hold on in 2016 whereas weaker Republicans would have much more difficulty. Weaker Republicans include Burr (even though he is an incumbent: his approval ratings are anemic even after 5.5 years in the senate), Portman, Buck/Norton, and maybe Toomy, along with any I'm forgetting.
A parallel is from the class of '08 (and '06) Senate Democrats: the weaker ones have tenuous positions heading into 2012/2014, while the stronger ones are in much better positions. http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
I began to ramble, so let me know if I was confusing.


I continue to believe that Missouri
is a pretty likely D pickup, too.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Forgot about that
Agree that it's likely insofar as a Republican held Senate seat can be a likely Democratic pickup this cycle.

[ Parent ]
Rand Paul the new Michael Steele?
The gift that keeps on giving!

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...


Gingrich
Gingrich expounds on the chances of Rs taking over the House in November

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballo...

50/50

Joe Cooper


Newt is an odd egg
There is no moderation to him. He either comes across as one of the most sensible Republicans or one of the most crazy of all. Kos quoted Ann Coulter of all people (boy, has she lost out since the emergence of Palin!) making the case that the GOP are setting themselves up for an almighty fall with their rhetoric just like 1998. For once she might have a point.

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Yeah
Newt is so 1990's. Seriously what significant thing has he done since 1999? Nada. He is simply doing whatever he can to keep in the headlines as time goes on. He's a washed up political rock star if you will. Kind of sad really.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
If Newt runs, he'll be the most washed-up GOP Prez candidate since Dan Quayle in 2000


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[ Parent ]
Rand Paul took Blumenthal off the news


Hahahaha.
Pwned.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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MN-Gov
That's a great choice for MAK.  Minnetonka is a +50k population suburb and has quickly trended DFL.  It has however become the most Democratic of these major suburbs in the Western metro.


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