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WA-08: Burner Trails in Both R2K and Dem Poll; SSP Moves to "Lean GOP"

by: Crisitunity

Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 2:03 PM EDT


Research 2000 for Daily Kos (10/5-7, likely voters):

Darcy Burner (D): 41
Dave Reichert (R): 49
(MoE: ±5%)

Lake Research Partners for Darcy Burner America's Voice (9/23-25, likely voters):

Darcy Burner (D): 45
Dave Reichert (R): 48
(MoE: ±5.2%)

After losing to Dave Reichert by only a few points in the 2006 election, there were high hopes for Darcy Burner's 2008 rematch. She led Reichert in fundraising through the cycle, and with Obama a particularly well-suited candidate for generating coattails in the affluent, suburban Eighth District, she seemed well-positioned to finish the job this year.

However, while the last few weeks have seen a few other re-match contestants (Eric Massa, Larry Kissell, Dan Seals) in swing districts moving into commanding positions, Burner seems to be remaining in the same position she was in before the financial crisis and corresponding Democratic surge: down in the mid-single digits. (Over the summer, she was down from 6 to 10 in three SurveyUSA polls, and most importantly, she was down about 4 against Reichert in the Top 2 primary.)

Research 2000 finds Burner down by 8. The internal presents a somewhat better picture for her: down by 3 in a straight head-to-head, but up by 9 (50-41) when voters are informed about the candidates' positions. Over summer, such an internal poll might be heartening, but with four weeks left till the election, it doesn't fill us with much confidence.

Several other factors also bode ill: we're in the middle of a large (more than $400,000 combined) pro-Reichert ad buy by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and National Federation of Independent Business, which blunts Burner's financial advantage. And today the Seattle Post-Intelligencer endorsed Reichert, touting his perceived moderation (they're the more liberal of Seattle's two papers; they have already endorsed Obama this year, and endorsed Burner in 2006). With that in mind, we're downgrading WA-08 to "Lean Republican," although we consider this as being on the cusp of "Toss-up," and a strong showing the next SurveyUSA poll could put her right back in the thick of things.

Possible theories on why Burner is lagging include:

  • this race seems to be getting less coverage in the local media than it did in 2006, drowned out by the heated and noisy gubernatorial race, as well as the drama of the presidential race and the economy, so it has sort of afterthought status this year;
  • Reichert retains very high name recognition and favorables from his long stint as King County Sheriff (a non-partisan elected office), and, correctly or not, receives credit and the accompanying local celebrity status for catching the Green River Killer, making it difficult for Burner to drive up his negatives; and
  • this district is probably more insulated from the crisis in the financial sector than most, as this district is all about, in its north, Microsoft, and in its south, Boeing (although we'll see what happens as people open their 401(k) statements this week).

The internal polling memo is over the flip...

UPDATE (by James L.): It turns out this poll was not an internal poll for Burner, but rather one commissioned by America's Voice.

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Gregoire's lumbering
and until recently slumbering campaign has the ability to drag down the ballot.

Agree that Gregoire's drag in WA State
Is not helping here.
Progressive Blue endorsed Darcy early on, but I must admit I was expecting to see better numbers for her this go-around.

Darcy was still leadsing Reichert-R in Fundraising & Cash on Hand:

Receipts as of 7/30/08

BURNER, DARCY MS. (D)   July 30, 2008   $2,331,865.00
REICHERT, DAVE (R)   July 30, 2008   $1,833,551.00

Cash on Hand as of 7/30/08:

BURNER, DARCY MS. (D)   July 30, 2008   $1,475,922.00
REICHERT, DAVE (R)   July 30, 2008   $928,113.00  

CQ Politics

(-8.50/-7.44) "Real Democrats don't make promises they can't keep." Dr. Howard Dean


[ Parent ]
but the COH advantage
is offset by the third-party "more than $400,000 combined" pro-Reichert ads. Yikes.

Are there ANY large third-party efforts helping Burner on our side??
(No matter how many House seats we wind up gaining next month, I'll be quite sad if Burner isn't among them.)


[ Parent ]
This seems right, unfortunately
It would really be a shame if Burner can't win this November, but at some point she does have to convince a majority (or at least plurality) of the voters in her district to vote for her.

Of course, by this polling rationale, wouldn't Massa, Kilroy, and Boccieri's races all be Lean Dem at this point? At least with Kilroy and Boccieri, because they're not facing incumbents.


Burner
 is running in WA - probably in a D+ district. She should do better than this with the wind behind her.

[ Parent ]
WA-08 is D + 2
OH-15 and OH-16 are R + 1 and R + 4, respectively, while NY-29 is R + 5.

I think you can argue any/all of these districts either tossup or Lean Dem, I am just curious as to the rationale. James et al do such a great job, it's not meant to nitpick but just to provoke (happy) conversation on a Friday. At least with Kilroy and Boccieri, I'd put those seats at Lean Dem now, but might wait for more polling on the Massa/Kuhl race and keep it at tossup. Happy problems to have.

I would also personally probably label Charlie Brown as tossup in CA-04 at this point, due to the combo of open seat and polling. But it ain't my website :)


[ Parent ]
I was about to ask ...
... how many of our top challengers are in rematches?

[ Parent ]
Burner...
Kissell, Massa, Seals, Derby, Wulsin, Esch... and really digging deep, Feder and Jennings.

Of course, there are other dudes running for a second time (Trauner, Kilroy, Stender, etc.) but in open seat races, so "rematch" doesn't apply there.


[ Parent ]
Maffei
Another running again this time for an open seat.  A well deserved winner, too.

[ Parent ]
OT: MN-Sen, Coleman getting desperate?
He is squaring off negative ads and sticking to issue centered ads, according to a press conference held today.  
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...

Damnit!!
This is a seat we really need to take in order to have a huge cushion going into 2010.  

[ Parent ]
Well Georgia is tied according to in-state based InsiderAdvantage
[ Parent ]
Are they credible?
I'm not familiar with them.  The number does seem in-line with other recent polls.

[ Parent ]
Sure they are
http://www.southernpoliticalre...

Mainly cover the south but they've been releasing lots of state polls from key battlegrounds. Latest is Obama +5 in Ohio.


[ Parent ]
IMO, no
I think they're junk.  

[ Parent ]
No excuse for this
I could understand that last SUSA poll.  All dems took a brief hit after Palin was picked for VP.  But since that time nearly all dems have bounced back ahead, including Gregoire and Obama's Washington numbers.  Burner is the only one whose numbers have not seen a bounce.  

She has bounced back
Down from 8 to 10 points now down from 3 to 5.  It's a 5 point bounce in Washington.  

Good news/bad news.  The stock market hit new lows for the W era surpassing the intraday low set on September 21,2001 (7920) by hitting 7881.  It bounced up huge, challenged the low twice and then wound up down under 100 for the day.  Darcy's not gonna get much more push from the melt down.  

Whether it's McCain's role in scrapping the Boeing contract, leadership in getting us out of Iraq,the inability of a GOP backbencher to do much for the district, she needs to make her final case.


[ Parent ]
I suppose even if she stays close enough
Barack could pull her through if he wins big enough.

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Wouldn't count on it
Washington voters are known for our ticket-splitting, and the coordinated campaign this year (as in many years) seems focused to a fault on Obama, when for all practical purposes he is a shoo-in to win the state.  Down-ballot races, even the absolutely critical governor's race, are suffering.  Darcy hasn't exactly shown herself to be a particularly skilled candidate, either.

[ Parent ]
Also, early voting
Havn't many Washington voters already mailed their ballots?  That doesn't exactly give her much time to play catch up.

[ Parent ]
Nope
Ballots drop Oct 15, at least in King County (80% of the district).  I assume Pierce isn't far off.  Nobody has voted yet.

[ Parent ]
Obama should make an appearance with Burner
At the start of early voting.  That would give her a huge boost.  

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