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AZ-08: Dueling Internals

by: James L.

Sun Jul 20, 2008 at 8:07 PM EDT


Hot on the heels of President Bush's $600,000 fundraiser for Tim Bee, we have two starkly different polls of freshman Democrat Gabrielle Giffords' first re-election campaign.

First, we have Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (6/18-22, likely voters, including leaners):

Gabrielle Giffords (D-inc): 59
Tim Bee (R): 35
(n=502)

Lots of good news for Giffords here, including a very high 92% name recognition and a 57% favorability rating. But is it too good to be true? Tim Bee's pollster thinks so.

Arizona Opinion for Tim Bee (5/15-23, likely voters):

Gabrielle Giffords (D-inc): 47
Tim Bee (R): 40
(MoE: ±4.4%)

Bee's poll is staler and from (as far as I know) a less reputable polling outfit than GQR. However, if we fall back on the clichéd but time-tested method of locating the truth somewhere in the middle of these two spreads, Giffords is starting off in a solid place against one of the GOP's few legitimately formidable recruits.

SSP currently rates this race as Leans Democratic.

James L. :: AZ-08: Dueling Internals
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Truth is probably in between
Though probaby closer to Giffords poll than Bee's.  I'm confident Giffords will win by double-digits.  AZ-05 is a bit more worrisome, but I have little doubt Mitchell will win big as well.

Either way
We're in great shape.

How does Bee expect to win? He's down in his internal polls, will be outspent significantly and is running in a wave year for the opposite party. Barring a major scandal there is just no way he can win. He's not going to stop Giffords climb to possibly the presidency.  


Ya Giffords is probably destined for bigger things
I can absolutely see her as Governor or more likely a future Senator of Arizona.  

Her husband has one hell of a resume too -  NASA astronaut, Test pilot, career naval aviator with 39 Desert Storm combat missions.  He definately needs to be pressed to get into politics when his NASA days are over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...


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Attorney General Terry Goddard is the
favorite to hold the governorship for us in 2010 and I think Napolitano will run for McCain's seat in 2010. That leaves Kyl's seat in 2012. I think Kyl will be minority leader by then so that will be a tough race but I think Giffords has what it takes to win and I think she will win.

Then I think she will absolutely be on the shortlist of Democratic VP's in 2016, think about it. Swing state, Jewish, women, space vote, young, charismatic. I think she would make the perfect fit (it does depend on who the presidential nominee is though)


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How to skew a poll
You take a slightly more Republican-demographics-leaning sample, and push the leaners less, and put Tim Bee before Gabrielle Giffords.  Something like that.

Bill Posey is not half-alligator...and is outclassed by Davy Crockett anyway: http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...

Bee's Poll
Seems to me that Bee's poll is good news--for Giffords. If the worst case scenario still gives her a solid lead, I'd say she's in good shape for November.


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