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The Ten House Candidates Who Should Run Again

by: democraticavenger

Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 4:25 PM EST


(I don't agree with every name on this list, but this is a strong diary and good food for thought. - promoted by DavidNYC)

Now it is entirely possible that there are more than Ten  Democratic Challengers who ran this time who  would make ideal candidates against the same opponent in 2008.  It is important to remember that out of 30 Democratic pick ups, just four came in re-matches, and in challenger rematches the two most closely watched, PA 6 and CT 4 were rare loses in an otherwise near East coast sweep.  It is important to remember that simply being the nominee last time should not mean the nomination should be yours for the asking the next time. That said the sheer number of close calls means that some of these candidates deserve another look. It is that sprit I present the Ten who should run again, as well five honorable mentions candidates who should be viewed seriously if not automatically favorably if they declare.
democraticavenger :: The Ten House Candidates Who Should Run Again
1.  Larrry Kissell NC 8
  The fact that Larry Kissell has already committed to another run makes this choice relatively simple. Still when use lose by  around 4,00 votes against a long term incumbent with that large a spending gap something is happening.  Kissell was supposed to be a third tier nobody and now he is a clear netroots hero.  Congressman Robin Hayes will also find life more difficult with no one there who can tell him exactly how to vote.  The district is winnable by the numbers also. Larry Kissell for congress.

2.  Nancy Skinner MI 9
  This is probably the greatest under-target in the nation and for that very reason Nancy Skinner should be given another shot in this district should she want it.  One huge accomplishment of hers was to run through the considerable about of money Congressman Knollenberg had stored up over years and years. She ran a very good race and needs another chance.  It also be noted this race was missed almost completely by the mainstream blog's that could have pushed it higher up. We might have missed a win here, as surely as the DCCC did.

3.  Charlie Brown CA 4
This is a somewhat no brainier as the cloud of doubt of Congressman Doolittle continues to grow. Charlie Brown was able  to run an extremely competitive race and He makes a great contrast to John Doolittle. I am excited for round 2

4.  Linda Stender NJ 7
  This was a very close race that and I believe Linda Stender to be the best possible candidate.  Mike Ferguson is the type of member who gets weaker in the minority.  Linda Stender could very well knock him off.

5.  Darcy Burner WA 8
  This race is extremely similar to the race just above. Relatively junior members just hold on and with a change in climate after the midterm, Congressman Reichert doesn't have all his friends to get his back.  He seems more suitable for the transition than Mike Ferguson, but the district is more democratic. Darcy Burner proved herself as a candidate this cycle.

6.  Dan Seals IL 10
  This was a slight under target and the 53% for Mark Kirk shows that might well have been a mistake. Dan Seals ran a very good campaign with a positive results and there are already rumblings that Mark Kirk is going to try and move up or out.  Dan Seals should go right back to putting pressure on Congressman Kirk

7.  Tessa Hafen NV 3
  Probably one of the more heart-breaking loses in the country as Jon Porter won with only 47% of the Vote. Tessa Hafen got 46% if she  can just find a way to consolidate the Anti-Porter vote. I think she could very well. She certainly earned the right by taking a race others has given up on.

8.  Gary Truaner WY AL
  Barbara Cubin is one of the worst members of Congress by fire.  She ran under 50% last time and is generally not liked. This will potentially make her vulnerable to a Republican primary challenger who would then be more likely to win the general. Gary Truaner did run a great campaign but  Wyoming is just an  extremely difficult place to pull off.

9.  Larry Grant ID 1
  This is probably the greatest shame because it is hard to beat  a Republican incumbent in Idaho. No matter who it is. That Bill Sali won means he is going to be extremely difficult to beat now that he is a Congressman. Still Larry Grant's tough fight in the state would be a great value too it.

10. Charles Dertinger PA 15
This is probably my most difficult call. Charlie Dent needs a really good challenger. Charles Dertinger did everything right, except he raised no money. He could very well be the next cycle's Paul Hodes but he also might simply be someone who can't raise money at all.  He would benefit from a primary challenger who will force him to raise some money, but he should probably be given another shot. No matter what happens this district needs to have a giant bulls-eye on it.

Honorable Mentions
Erica Massa NY 29, Dan Maffei NY 25 John Pavich IL 11  NC 5 Roger Sharpe  Mary Jo Kilroy OH 15
 

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Great diary
I'd remove some of yours (eg, Skinner), and rank some others higher (eg, Seals), but of course, this is all just a matter of opinion.

Now, someone needs to do a diary on the ten candidates who should NOT run again. #1: Jack Davis.


Why no love for Skinner?
Thanks otherwise you are right about Davis

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I would like to see someone
With more experience take on Knollenberg, who has been in the House for over a decade. Beating an incumbent in a non-wave year is almost impossible - you need to have as strong a candidate as possible.

Also, Skinner raised only $400K, which strikes me as quite weak. By way of comparison, Eric Massa and Tim Walz, both first-time candidates without prior political experience, raised $1.4M and $1.2M respectively. And Massa's district is quite poor. They are sort of my benchmark.

If you can't raise somewhere in the realm of that kind of money in a strong Dem year, what were you doing? And I should note that MI-09 is a 50-50 district, while both MN-01 and especially NY-29 have a notable GOP tilt. NY-29 went for Bush 56-42.


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One thing to take into account
There were a lot of Dems (mostly women) who donated to Pan Godchaux's primary race against Joe and, therefore, were not giving money to Nancy. I think without this element, she would have raised more money than she did up to the primary.  By the time August rolled around, a lot of time had already passed.  Some of these people shot their wad on Pan to try to get rid of Joe in the primary and never came around to giving any money to Nancy.

And, the DNC and DCCC paid no attention whatsoever to Michigan.  Now that they know this race was winnable, hopefuly they're kicking themselves. If Nancy runs against Joe next time, and I personally think she should, I think the national organizations will give her more support (any would be more than she got this time).  I also think the netroots have realized they made a mistake not getting behind her earlier.  She's got the best name recognition in the district now, knows where her weak and strong spots are and would have a head start over anyone else.  She also have a huge volunteer base from the outset next time around who know her and know the district.

I say, go, Nancy, go!


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The DCCC
Didn't help Massa either - but the NRCC did. They ran IEs against him. But still he came w/in 4 pts.

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Hate to sound stupid, but what are IEs?
So, Massa came within 4 points with $1.4 million, and Nancy came within 5.2 points with only $407k.  That tells me if she had had some help from the national organizations she would have had a much greater chance of winning.  As much as I hate to say it or believe it, money really does mean something.  We really need campaign finance reform and public funding of campaigns in a big way.

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Not a stupid question at all
IE = independent expenditure, made by an outside group on behalf of or against a candidate, done without coordination with either of the campaigns in question. Most of the largest IEs from from the various campaign committees - DCCC, NRCC, etc. The NRCC spent money to defeat Massa, but the DCCC did not respond.

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Thanks, David!
I'm still learning a lot. Some of the acronyms on the "Internets" just aren't obvious enough to figure out.

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I would like to see Massa run again.
(Of course, with the disclaimer that I have no local knowledge on the ground with that one.) 

It just seems he put up such an impressive challenge the first time, that the second time might just be the charm.

Wonder if Sununu's fired now.


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Skinner vs. Knollenberg
While Skinner reduced Knollenberg's victory margin from 19 points (2002 and 2004) to six, there were a number of extenuating circumstances.  The national repudiation of Republican leadership was a factor of course.  But it should also be noted that Knollenberg spent a substantial amount of money fighting off a primary challenge from Republican Pan Godchaux, while three Democratic challengers withdrew so Skinner could run unopposed and exploit the windfall opening Godchaux's candidacy presented. 

That said, I think it's too bad the DCCC and other Democratic political gurus didn't recognize this opportunity and match the commitment Skinner's opponents made to the greater cause when they stepped aside.  So I agree that this is a missed opportunity, but I don't think it reflects so much on the strength of Skinner's campaign as it does on the overall dynamics of the race. 

I also think that Knollenberg's vulnerability was revealed here and, as a result, there will be greater interest in the race in 2008, perhaps drawing better candidates into the fray.  Nancy and her team did a very good job this year, but it's way too soon to choose the next nominee in Michigan's 9th.


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some who shouldn't run again
There are actually quite a few candidates who should not run again IMHO. The top ten as I see it:
Matthews - CA-26
Busby - CA-50
Farrell - CT-04
Spivack - DE-AL
Duckworth - IL-06
Rowley - MN-02
Wetterling - MN-06
Madrid - NM-01
Harrison - NY-13
Davis - NY-26

Great diary but should have had the top 30 not 10!

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Spivack
One mild point in Spivack's defense - I think he was sort of running because no one else had the guts to do challenge Castle - there is a lot of gutlessness among Delaware's elected officials, and the GOP and Dems are way too buddy-buddy here, especially Carper and Castle.

That said, I would MUCH rather see an actual elected official run for this seat!

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Kissell was not a good candidate
He didn't raise any money.  We should find another candidate if we want to win that seat.  We can probably do better than Kilroy in OH 15 as well.

www.trublupolitics.com

Kissell raised
$700K - quite a bit more than Skinner did, for sure. But Kissell also had a very late start, after the establishment choice Tim Dunn dropped out.

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that was a winnable district
just next door Heath Shuler was raising tons.  I know firsthand that Kissell didn't put in the time to make fundraising calls.

www.trublupolitics.com

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You've said that before
But I asked around and got no confirmation on your claims.

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my claim is correct
email me offline and I'll tell you where I got it from.

www.trublupolitics.com

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I don't have your e-mail
But you can reach me at davidnyc (at) swingstateproject (dot) com.

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Sorry
I thought you had all the emails. I'll send you a note on Tuesday.

www.trublupolitics.com

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"not a good candidate" - sheesh
He came within 400 votes of unseating a 6-term incumbent, without any major national support until the last minute.

Not a good candidate, eh? Lord, if I can have just one thing for New Year's, let me have a candidate as good as Larry Kissell, to run in my deep red central PA district!

I'll back Larry Kissell next time against any asshole that tries for the nomination. In fact, he's already on the 2008fund ActBlue page, where folks who want to help him retire his modest '06 debt can help:

http://www.actblue.c... 

Sheesh. What are you, a sorehead partisan of the other Democrat he beat in the primary? If he's "not a good candidate", how did he beat that other guy, let alone come within 400 votes of a 6-term incumbent? 

Half the population believes our electoral system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed. Wakeuplaughing.com  


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he should have won
and a good candidate would have won.  Hayes was the deciding vote for CAFTA in a district that relies on the textile trade.  They should have hammered him on that vote.  Instead, they spent their tv dollars responding to Hayes on Medicare.  And the ads were horrible.  Hayes was ripe to be beaten by a good candidate.

www.trublupolitics.com

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Money can't be the only standard


money is an important standard
If you can't raise money, you can't communicate.  The party won't get behind candidates who can't raise money.

www.trublupolitics.com

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Money is the only standard
Until we push congress to enact federal funding of elections and ban Congressmen from receiving compensation from anybody but their constituents, money is the only standard.  A candidate can have the best intentions, but if no one knows about her or him, it won't matter.  To become known among voters takes money.  It's a chicken-and-egg problem.  And the money is available for those who will play the game.  Unfortunately, those who play the game are the ones who win and they, in turn, decide the rules of the game.  And so, the game continues. 

If you don't like the way this works (I certainly don't), then you have to do something about it at a grass-roots level because Congress has no incentive to change it.  In fact, fixing the current system would take away both compensation and competitive advantage for those it has served so well for so long.  They will continue to serve the uber-rich instead of their constituents unless the system is reformed.


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I never suggested it was
But I don't see how (ordinarily) you can be considered a strong candidate if you raise little money while those in your peer group triple what you raise or more.

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NE-2 Jim Esch
Esch got 45% against Lee Terry in 2006, with no support from the state party at all. It was a tremendous grassroots effort. He's not taking any PAC money. Esch already committed to making a run in 2008 shortly after election day. With the news that Hagel's dropping out of the Senate race for 2008, Esch may be running for an open House seat, too.

I agree
I didn't note it because even Jim Esch I don't think could win the 2nd if he did it as well.

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What about Victoria Wulsin?
She lost to Jean Schmidt 51-49.  It was a close election, and if she doesn't run then Paul Hackett will.

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Hackett
should run.  I still can't believe that election was that close.  I doubt it remains so in a Presidential year.  The performance of that district is usually very Republican.

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Kissell
Being a North Carolinian I can assure that Kissell did a herculean effort to unseat Hayes on the cheap and came within 400 votes doing it.  Hayes at 2+ million dollar campaign...a textile millionaire who voted for Nafta and Cafta so all his textile workers like Kissell had to find jobs or..maybe not...used mostly his own money vs. Kissell who had NO ...repeat no HELP from Rahm or the national party only the state chair went down and spent the last few weeks helping out...former gov Hunt helped couple saturdays also...that race was pure grass roots and Kissell will win in 08.  That district has been safely RED ..a la Helms for two decades or more so to say Kissell was not the right guy is simply wrong. 

NC-08
NC-08 is not safely red.  Bush only got 53% there, just two points above his national average in 2004.

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in NC Heath!
Hell yes Heath raised tons...he is a millionaire in his own right folks..pro football, real estate company in Knoxville Tennessee!  He had the DCC behind him...hand picked by Rahm so to compare him with Kissell shows your lack of knowledge or understanding of North Carolina politics.

I have inside knowledge of this campaign
I am very aware that Kissell did not do call time on a regular basis.  He also didn't get maximum contributions from local donors that typically max out to Democratic campaigns.  The DCCC didn't come in until late because Kissell didn't meet the threshold of raising money on his own.  He is not a good candidate at all.

www.trublupolitics.com

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And you've also said this before
>>>He also didn't get maximum contributions from local donors that typically max out to Democratic campaigns.<<<

Given that the establishment started ignoring this race the moment Dunn dropped out, it seems a lot more plausible to me that these big-dollar donors decided to bail on Kissell. Hell, when one stupid poll showed Hodes back 25 points, his fundraising dried up for about three weeks. Perception is everything, and Kissell did not have control over the perception that his race was being abandoned.

In fact, I think you are a lot worse off if you are seen as the replacement candidate than if you start off as an unknown (like, say, Massa).

Anyhow, I'd be curious to see a list of these people in the area who usually max out, and then see what their giving to Kissell looked like.


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TX-31
Mary Beth Harrell ran as good a race as one could on the limited funds she had. The incumbent, John Carter, is a class A clown who will have some of the most idiotic pro-Iraq War statements to defend in 2008. Harrell, who has a son on active duty in Iraq, is the best person I can think of to contrast with the buffoonish Carter. Give her enough money to mount a full-scale campaign, and you just might be surprised.

TX-31
The 31st is a district that needs to be seriously contested, because I think we can win it.  Has Harrell indicated that she might be interested in a rematch??  I hope so, because she would be great in 08.  With a well-executed field operation (and money, of course money) she could take the majority of the smaller counties: Milam, Robertson, Falls and Hamilton, even in a presidential year.  Erath and Coryell would be harder to pull off, but oh well.  The two huge population centers in the district, Bell and Williamson counties, are the large GOP strongholds.  However, if she could carry a great deal of Killeen (w/ military relations and Killeen having a sizable African American population, that could be doable) that could off-set the Republicans in Temple.  Williamson County is one of the fastest growing counties in the state and hopefully that means that it might be more favorable to us, than in years passed.  Long story short, this district could be competitive.  Any thoughts, Kuff?

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Good Diary, here's my list:
1.  Larrry Kissell NC 08
2. Erica Massa NY 29
3.Dan Maffei NY 25
4. Dan Seals IL 10
5. Tessa Hafen NV 03
6.  Larry Grant ID 01
7. Gary Trauner WY AL
8.Linda Stender NJ 7
9.Charlie Brown CA 04
10.Mary Jo Kilroy OH 15
11. Andrew Hurst VA 11
12. Angie Paccione CO 04
13. Ellen Simon AZ 01

Kissell & Massa got totally screwed by the DCCC.
I hope to especially see both of them in Congress some day.
Dan Seals has a future as do many of these fine people, the great majority of whom are stuck with very difficult red districts.

(-8.50/-7.44) "Real Democrats don't make promises they can't keep." Dr. Howard Dean


Red Districts
The only ones with overly red districts are Trauner, Grant, and Brown.  The rest of them are districts where Bush recieved well under 60% in 2004.

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If you choose Bush's 2004 performance as
the determination of the redness of a District,however, I don't. I don't just use that single election as a baseline, to evaluate the redness of a district. There is enough election results history at hand to make a more thorough determination IMO.
So, no I wouldn't agree with your evaluation that NY-29, NC-08, AZ-01 and even NJ-07 aren't historically quite red at local and national elections levels.

(-8.50/-7.44) "Real Democrats don't make promises they can't keep." Dr. Howard Dean

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NC-08
NC-08 is not historically red.  I believe there are more registered Democrats than Republicans in the district.  Robin Hayes was the first Republican to represent that district since the 1970's.

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As in most Southern States
like North Carolina, voters remain registered Democratic. The current Statewide registration is 45% Dem, 35% Gop, 20% Unaffiliated. That does not make this a guaranteed 10% Dem voting State in National Elections or at the Statewide Level like say California.
The State site does not have a breakdown by CD, however out of the 10 Counties (incl. partial Counties) in NC-08, even though Easley-D was winning by 13 points Statewide, he lost Cabarrus, Stanly & Union Counties by approx. 13,000 votes and underperformed in NC-08.
Dem registration in NC does not translate into Blue voting.
John Edwards-D carried NC-08 by only a few thousand votes underperforming there, and Jesse Helms-R carried it handily 2 years prior.
Things have changed in NC and I believe there is hope that the State can be won by the Dems in a National race, but your insistence that NC-08 is not Red on a Local & National level is not founded in reality (nice try with the voting registration though).
I know the States' voting patterns fairly well, as I lived there for over 6 years and held County & Dem Party Offices.
If you can find any locals to resolve this issue, fine.

(-8.50/-7.44) "Real Democrats don't make promises they can't keep." Dr. Howard Dean

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Southern States
Even if these areas are red, the right kind of Democrat can win there.  They must focus on issues like trade and economic fairness and you would be surprised how many voters who might normally vote Republican will listen.  There are still a handful of districts in the South that are held by Republicans that are not hopelessly red that could be won with this message.  SC-01, SC-02, AL-03, VA-02, and VA-04 all come to mind.

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Absolutely, I agree that they are not hopelessly Red
just tough nuts to crack, in part because those districts have republican incumbents. And yes it does take the right candidate and funding. Grassroots and netroot support are also essential. You'll never see me saying we don't have a chance, especially if all the necessary factors are in sync.
I've lived in both VA-02 & VA-04 and continue to have high hopes for both of those districts.

(-8.50/-7.44) "Real Democrats don't make promises they can't keep." Dr. Howard Dean

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Massa
Definitely run again, Eric.

Of a couple races I was keeping a close eye on, his was definitely one of them.


Idaho
DemAvenger, thanks for the diary and the nod to Larry Grant.

Here in Idaho, we are pleased that Sali was named president of the incoming GOP freshman class. Granted, that's a very small class! But it should help him stay in the news, which - in Sali's case, given his propensity for inflammatory rhetoric and occasional downright meanness - may help us keep him to one term.

It's worth noting that Sali got less than 50% - 49.94% to be exact - in a district that gave Bush close to 70% in 2000 and 2004. So the fact Larry Grant came within 5% in a district that overwhelmingly red shows we are making gains. (We had three third-party candidates here that took 5% total.)


Here's my 10, ranked first to last
1. Christine Jennings (if she doesn't get seated)

2. Larry Kissell

3. Jim Esch

4. Ted Ankrum

5. Charlie Brown

6. Lois Herr (ran strong in arguably the most red district in PA)

7. Gary Trauner

8. Tessa Hafen

9. Jill Derby

10.Nancy Skinner


nix on Lois Herr
Lois Herr's already had two shots, and failed, in a Democratic sweep year. What do you see as any factor that puts her over the top, in a Red district, in a Presidential year wth a GOP contender for the White House leading at the top of the ballot?

I'm glad to see Ted Ankrum on your list. He was a great candidate in a winnable, neglected district. But he's already said he won't run again. The Search function on daily kos seems to be down, or I'd post a link to his valedictory posting.  Have you seen anything to make you think he'll change his mind?

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OH-15
There is a lot speculation here that Deborah Pryce won't run for reelection in 2008. Everyone--including Pryce--was pretty surprised when Kilroy didn't win this year, considering the strength of her campaign. The margin ended up being something like .24%. This seat is an excellent pick up opportunity for us, maybe even easier if the seat is open.

Considering the fact that she barely lost, I have a feeling Kilroy would be given the opportunity to pass on the race before any other dems jumped in. Personally I think she should  run again. It is hard to walk away from when the difference is only 1,000 votes.


Kilroy in OH-15
I'll certainly back Kilroy again, if she does. She hasn't committed to, I don't think; but I notice she's keeping her mailing list together. I got a 'Happy New Year' postcard from her. A good sign.

Half the population believes our electoral system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed. Wakeuplaughing.com  

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she has her county commission race to think about
she's up again as a county commissioner in 2008, so if she ran for congress again obviously the stakes would be a little higher. the thing to watch will be her fundraising, as i'm fairly certain that money is not transferable. if she starts raising for the federal account then she is making another shot at the house. if she raises money for the county account then shes going for another shot at county commissioner. i worked the campaign and i'd really like to see her make another shot at it.

if pryce doesn't run and the seat becomes open, look for the republicans to run state senator steve stivers.


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OH-15
I think if the seat opens up, Kilroy would be the frontrunner in this Democratic trending district.

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WA-08...my two bits...
First off, if Darcy wants to stand a chance at getting elected in 2008, she needs to show experience in dealing with policy as a counterweight to Reichert's meme that he's The Sheriff (who will protect you).  She needs to be appointed by Governor Gregoire or Senators' Murray or Cantwell to some sort of board that won't be seen as yet another group of talking heads - energy issues, especially given that this is increasingly becoming an area of concern in this state, would be a good option if it's available.

Second, it has to be Darcy's campaign.  A lot of locals in the know will complain that it was too much Rahm Emmanuel's, but, in truth, it was Blair Butterworth's, the man credited (overmuch in my opinion) with getting Gary Locke into the Governors mansion way back when.  He ran Darcy's race as the best campaign of 1985 I've ever seen, in my opinion - pity we're twenty years past that.

Third, the key to breaking any Republican in winning this Congressional seat is taking the fight to the 5th, 47th, and 31st (and to a lesser extent, the 2nd) state legislative districts.  The last two are primarily the Pierce County portion of the district, and it is any Republican candidate's ace in the hole in the 8th CD.  Everybody knew that this effort had to be made, and done well, yet Darcy's campaign utterly failed to accomplish this task, and any future Democratic campaign simply cannot ignore this salient point.

The Democrats' 2004 candidate, Dave Ross, as a radio talk show host, had a slew of public comments that could be used against him.  In 2006, Darcy was a fresh face with a potentially compelling message, and a general mistrust existed in the area of the Republicans in general and George W. Bush in particular.  And yet she only gained 1.5 percentage points more than her predecessor candidate.

This race can be won.  But it has to be both thought through and fought for - and that hasn't happened yet.


Who should run?

1.  Nancy Skinner MI 9

2.  Larry Kissell NC 8

3.  Linda Stender NJ 7

4.  Mary Jo Kilroy OH 15

5.  Gary Truaner WY AL

6.  Tessa Hafen NV 3

7.  Larry Grant ID 1

8.  John Pavich IL 11

9.  Eric Massa NY 29

10.  Charlie Brown CA 4 



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Who should not run?
1.  Francine Busby CA-50

2.  Patty Wetterling MN-06

3.  Patricia Madrid NM-01

4.  Lois Murphy PA-06

5.  Diane Farrell CT-04

6.  Tom Barlow KY-01

7.  Ken Lucas KY-04


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