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NY-23: The Craziest Story Ever Told

by: James L.

Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 7:09 PM EDT


We've all seen some pretty crazy turns of events this cycle, but this rumor from The Capitol seems like a bridge too far:

Speculation in Albany has grown that Rep. John McHugh (R-Watertown) will leave his congressional seat this year and instead challenge State Sen. Darrel Aubertine (D-Watertown).

Bipartisan sources have confirmed that the eight term congressman's name is rising to the top of the list to challenge Aubertine, who won the Senate seat in a special election last month. McHugh held this Senate seat for eight years before going to Congress in 1992. [...]

McHugh's campaign spokesman said his boss was planning to seek another term this year and was unsure where speculation about a State Senate race would have come from. He said McHugh has not given indication of any worry over the redistricting process.

"Having served in the New York State Senate, he has the utmost respect for that body," McHugh spokesman John Sweeney said. "He has the fullest intention of running for re-election to the U.S. House of Representatives again."

John McHugh?  The same guy who is making a bid to be the top Republican on the House Armed Services Committee?  Even if McHugh is tired of the commute to D.C. only to toil in the minority, why on earth would he want to give up his seat only to toil in the state Senate?  Democrats are on pace to pick up the chamber this November, and could quite likely still flip control even if McHugh were to pick off this seat.

Is the NY GOP that desperate?  What next?  Are they going to recruit Al D'Amato to run for Lt. Governor?

(H/T: The Albany Project)

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I just like pretending that Rep John Sweeney is now the press flack for Rep John McHugh.
Not that I think McHugh would be dumb enough to hire him.

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08

Was gonna say...
Getting caught with a DWI, pictures at a frat house, Miami Mobster. He has to be the worst press guy in the world.....if only.

progressive, NY-8 (home), PA-7 (college)

[ Parent ]
Redistricting
He probably sees the writing on the wall in terms of 2010 redistricting controlled by a Democratic trifecta in New York, and isn't looking forward to the dissolution of his seat and a 2012 collision with, say, Kirsten Gillibrand.

It's not unprecedented; after Jim Barcia's seat disappeared in 2002, he voluntarily demoted himself back to the Michigan State Senate. (And McHugh might figure he has at least half a chance of staying in the majority in the NY Senate.)


That wouldn't be a death sentence
McHugh's district is D+0, so he can obviously survive in moderate districts. And there are still a lot of Republicans in Upstate New York.

It seems unlikely that his new district will be significantly more Democratic than the current one - if it is that'll come at the expense of Democratic incumbents - and I would think that geography makes it difficult to divide up his district too much.

That's not to say that he's got the job forever, especially since his committee assignments aren't great for bringing in pork - Armed Services and Intelligence sound good on the resume, but neither carries the cachet of Ways and Means or the like - but he's the best placed Upstate Republican to survive.


[ Parent ]
I really hope this is mistaken
For several reasons. One is that we are really close to wresting control of the NY State Senate away from the other party, and we need to keep that (and every) seat.

Another is that I'd like to see McHugh lose his seat in Congress in a fair fight, with a Democrat, as the whole delegations turns blue.

Besides, I really like Darrel Aubertine in particular - or at least, the ad campaign that helped him flip that seat. See the best ad here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

 

Half the population believes our electoral system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed. Wakeuplaughing.com  


Wow, no kidding. That was really good.
Watch that video - It's a hell of a campaign video.  I wish Democrats would utilize this as like, framework for commercials for local races.  


[ Parent ]
Well...
Greg Stumbo went from Attorney General to State Representative in Kentucky (Kentucky's legislature also includes a former Governor, I believe), so who knows?

Julian Carroll
(Kentucky's legislature also includes a former Governor, I believe)

Absolutely. State Senator Julian M. Carroll, KY-SD-07 (Frankfort) is a former Governor (1974-1979). A couple of years ago he sent up a trial balloon about returning to higher office, despite his advanced age (he'll be 77 on April 16  of this year), but I never heard any more about that.  

Half the population believes our electoral system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed. Wakeuplaughing.com  


[ Parent ]
John Quincy Adams, etc.
John Quincy Adams went from US Senator to Secretary of State to President and then 2 years later to a member of the US House for 18 years (1830-1848).

It's not the state legislature but Jerry Brown went from California Governor and candidate for President to Mayor of Oakland (and then Attorney General) and Donald Schaefer, I think, a former Maryland Governor, lost for re-election to one of the lower statewide offices.  Doug Wilder,a former VA gov is Mayor of Richmond.  On the other side, former US Senator Rod Grams lost a bid for the US House in Minnesota in 2006.

A state senator in California serves more constituents than a member of Congress.  In NY, the numbers give the state senator about half the constituents of a member of congress.


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State senate worth more
It's pretty obvious that Republicans will not win back control of the US House this fall.  Otoh, their margin in the NY State Senate is one seat and they are facing lots of challenges.  That's their sole source of power and Bruno is the second most poweful person in Albany and close to being numero uno based on one lousy seat.

That said, this seems like wishful thinking to me.  The gig in DC not only has more prestige, it pays a lot better.


McHugh:
Can Mr. McHugh even stand a chance of beating Senator Aubertine?

It IS his old seat
he had this seat before his election to Congress in 1992.  

Liberty Avenue Politics - a place for politics in Southern Queens

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NY-23 is winnable when McHugh steps down
It's a winnable district as soon as the popular Republican incumbent goes away. Aubertine would be a good candidate if he's successful in the State Senate. New York has 29 Congressional Districts and we have a shot at taking every single one.

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

What? Why weren't their postings about this
Was this a pick up in a special election, an upstate New York Seat represented by a Democrat, fairly rare outside of the big cities and the liberal oasis', is WAtertown liberal.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus


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