Udall?

What rumors are you listening to?

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by: Unabridged @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 20:43:17 PM UTC

I have my sources.

Unfortunately they can't be named.

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by: James L. @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 02:14:10 AM UTC

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Hey...

Without Wilson in the seat, Madrid might very well win it.  Not unlike OH-15, y'know.

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by: Glenn Magus Harvey @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 20:55:45 PM UTC

During 2006-

Madrid was the sitting state AG- when Democratic elected officials in NM were involved in corruption- State Treasurer was indicted on Tax Evasion.

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by: nkp1279 @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 21:04:19 PM UTC

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But unlike OH-15...

Madrid lost her race in no small part thanks to an embarrassing debate gaffe.  Kilroy won't be carrying around that kind of baggage.

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by: James L. @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 21:06:02 PM UTC

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What Was "The Gaffe" Anyway?

I keep hearing about "The Gaffe" that sunk Madrid, but never did hear exactly what it was.

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by: Mark @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 22:27:50 PM UTC

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It was a really long pause during a debate.

Wilson used it near the end of the campaign in her attack ads.

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by: DGM @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 22:53:40 PM UTC

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The moderator of the debate asked Madrid a question

And Madrid just didn't say anything... ... ... ... ... ... ... for like ten seconds.  It made her look like she was not all there.  Given that Heather Wilson was a Rhodes scholar, it was not a flattering comparison.

Wilson's campaign turned the video of that moment into an attack ad.  I'm sure it's on youtube somewhere, although I couldn't find it just now.

Madrid lost by only 861 votes, and she almost certainly would have won if not for that moment.  More than a few people are convinced she threw away a victory that a lot of people worked very hard to win for her.

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by: texas dem @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 00:49:52 AM UTC

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Here is the Madrid's gaffe

http://youtube.com/w...

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by: AndTun1 @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:13:03 AM UTC

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look up MA-05 on google news

and the first 15+ sites that come up are redstate, they've been really obsessing over this race and how the Democratic base didn't come out, and Ogonowski did well. It's all so boring, Tsongas was just the boring, insider DLC New Democrat and I couldn't care less for her. No doubt I'm sure many Democrats felt the same.

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by: ArkDem the Ragin Cajin @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 22:33:31 PM UTC

any chance of a primary challenge?

she certainly doesn't come off as strong, considering her poor results in both the primary and the general election.if i were a dem in that district who wanted to move up, i'd certainly think about challenging her, in a primary where the progressive vote might be stronger.

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by: doug_tuttle @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 22:41:08 PM UTC

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For a great post-mortem...

...check out this Steve Kornacki piece here:

http://www.observer....

He did a great job of digging through the results and telling us what went wrong.

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by: James L. @ Wed Oct 17, 2007 at 23:06:21 PM UTC

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very persuasive analysis

thanks for posting it.

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by: Christopher Walker @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 01:29:28 AM UTC

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Great article - thanks for posting

Does Ogonowski have any plans to run in 08?

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by: GuyStevens @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 13:59:31 PM UTC

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He said

He'd have to talk it over with his family.

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by: Unabridged @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 14:12:25 PM UTC

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The problem is

There's really no where for him to go. Unless Tsongas has a Jean Schmidt-like year in Congress, there's no reason to believe Ognowski can beat her in a GE where the Democratic Presidential candidate will carry the state by 20+. He's not going to beat Kerry either.

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by: safi @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 21:28:24 PM UTC

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I think the lesson that all of us should take from MA-05...

...is that we should not take ANY race for granted.

There will be 435 House elections in 2008, 34 Senate races in 2008, 3 gubernatorial elections before the end of this year (2007), and 13 gubernatorial elections in 2008 (11 if you don't count American Samoa and Puerto Rico), as well as two or potentially three special elections, to fill VA-01, OH-05, and IL-14.  And then there's the presidential race, which is basically 51 separate races.

That's a total of 539 elections between now and and the end of election day 2008, not counting separate primary, general, and run-off elections.

Wow, that's a pretty staggering number.

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by: Glenn Magus Harvey @ Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 08:00:20 AM UTC

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It's even more for those of us watching our state's state leg races

Add in the 20 State Senate seats in California that are up in 08 as well as all 80 Assembly seats, then that's 639!!!

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by: californianintexas @ Fri Oct 19, 2007 at 03:20:36 AM UTC

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