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Washington Redistricting: How About a Majority-Minority District?

by: Crisitunity

Mon Mar 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM EDT


Here's an interesting proposal from some Seattle-area activists: a majority-minority district in the Seattle area.

That could be done, just barely, by combining Southeast Seattle with the suburbs south of the city, where the minority population has exploded over the past decade.

The Win/Win Network, a nonprofit group, drew up the potential "majority people of color" district and plans to submit it to the Washington State Redistricting Commission, the bipartisan panel charged with redrawing the state's political map this year.

It isn't as convoluted-looking as you'd think, but it would violate tradition (and usual redistricting commission policy) by splitting Seattle down the middle. (You can see the map at the link.) While north Seattle -- maybe the likeliest place outside of Sweden to see a Volvo-on-Volvo traffic accident -- is what makes Seattle one of the whitest major cities, south Seattle is very diverse and if you add in its close-in southern suburbs, you literally get to 50.1%. Whether this actually gets forced into being is a big VRA-related puzzle, though; while recent case law (like Bartlett v. Strickland) has dealt with districts where a minority's share doesn't reach 50%, I'm not aware of any cases on the issue of creating minority districts where the share tops 50% but it's a tossed salad of all possible minorities. The implications of that issue could be huge, especially for redistricting California this year.

If you haven't seen the New York Times' newest version of its remarkable Census map (now updated with 2010 count data to replace '05-'09 ACS data), the Seattle example is a neat place to start, especially if you're having trouble conceiving of the Seattle area as diverse. Go to the dot-based racial distribution map, and find Census tract 281, just north of the airport. This may actually be the most racially balanced tract in the whole nation, more so than anything in Queens or the East Bay, based on my puttering around the map: it's 26% white, 24% black, 19% Hispanic, and 22% Asian. In fact, here's a challenge/rainy day activity for you all: if you can find anything more balanced, let us know in comments! (Sorry, no babka.)

This opens up a can of worms in terms of what's most "balanced," though, depending on how many races you want to talk about. Tract 919 in Flushing, Queens, is 27% white, 33% Hispanic, and 33% Asian (but only 4% black)... or if you want to go with a 5-way split, check out Tract 9603 (Nanakuli, on the west shore of the island of Oahu), which is 12% white, 18% Hispanic, 17% Asian, 30% multiracial, and 20% Native Hawaiian! I don't want to limit how you define "balanced," so feel free to point out any interesting tracts that you find.

UPDATE: I've found at least one that seems to beat that Seattle-area tract: it's Census tract 355108 in Antioch, California (in Contra Costa County): 25% white, 24% black, 24% Hispanic, and 20% Asian.

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There are really two issues
here in my opinion.

1st should the Washington bipartisan redistricting board choose to create a minority majority seat?  There are 4 voting members, two republicans & two democrats, and it takes 3 votes to okay a map.  They can certainly create a seat along the lines in this article.  I suspect it would not matter must to Congressman McDermott  as he very popular with  all of these minority groups plus he is in tune with the white liberals in this too.  The effect of doing it 50.1% minority or  40.1% minority is meaningless IMO.  In this district's case at least.  I have no clue whether the commission will do this map.  

The 2nd question is whether under VRA the creation of this type of map is required.  If one believes that it completely change redistricting outcomes for 2011-2012. For instance in NJ the commission is not making its map based on this assumption that a coalition seat (50% of various minorities) is required to be drawn. Nor is VA's legislative map makers or the  map drawers  in MS or LA drawing that was.  We are seeing maps being finalized right now that are not being drawn on this basis. So I would contend that based on my reading of the VRA and past maps plus current maps being drawn that coalition seats are not required to be drawn.

I naturally base this on the fact that a racial gerrymander is involved.  The city of Seattle is divided in half with the more Northern white half of the city going to another CD.  I see that as a halfmark of gerrymandering for racial purposes and plus  no minority reaches the 50% Bartlett threshold.  

That's my two cents.  


It's possible
I just drew one from southern Seattle to Tacoma that's 49.8% white VAP. However, I don't see how you can argue that there are underrepresented minorities, since the district is only 20% Asian, 13% black, and 13% Hispanic VAP. That's not really enough to have an influence on which candidate wins in the district.

Would this district force a Dicks/Smith primary?
Just a cursory glance at the lines suggests that such a South Seattle -- Federal Way district (as proposed) would force Dicks and Smith into the same seat.

Even though they're Ds, they're still the most powerful congressmen in the WA delegation.

OTOH, Dave's app doesn't work for me in Linux, so I can't test that.


Two of the most important
democrat congressman period. When I think DC muscle ranking members of house apporiations and arm services come to mind. Inner city Tacoma to South side of Seattle would be a D disaster.  If one assumes all of very liberal North Seattle gets lumped in with its liberal Northern suburbs you would see two super packed highly democratic seats.  Those two districts are exactly what the GOP would draw if they could.  

For that matter the Southern Seattle plus all of the liberal south suburbs (now mostly in CD9) would be a D disaster.  I assume that North Seattle would be attached to those same D suburbs (now mostly in CD1).  This plan could hurt both Smith & Dicks if accepted.  


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You use Linux? Cool!
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Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Since '99
currently running RHEL 6 in a dual boot with Ubuntu Lucid

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Can't Linux run Silverlight?
Aka Moonlight?

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It's apparantly not good enough
I get to the national map, but it gets stuck at about 10% when I load a state map.

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Hmm
Maybe Dave can help. Have you tried emailing him?

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We've exchanged messages on one of his diaries
I keep trying as his software goes into new versions. It's better than it was before, as I got nothing at earlier versions. I'm pretty sure it's Moonlight, as what I do get came after a recent update of that software.

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Isn't Hastings just as powerful now?
He chairs Natural Resources, which is not as powerful as Appropriations or Armed Services, but he is a committee chairman nonetheless.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Good point, however
in WA, Boeing is still considerably more important than Weyerhaeuser.

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Hastings has some Mojo
not doubt about it. In the hierarchy of committees Natural resources is in the middle.  Not at the bottom but the top ones would be Ways & Means, Apporiations and then Commerce .  Then maybe Rules then Arm Services and Financial services followed by Transportation.  Then AG then Natural resources then everything else.

There is a key difference.  Democrats do not term limit chairman.  Hastings will have his few years and more on.  Dicks & especially Smith could hold their spots for decade or more.  So besides the relative importance of committee you have length of service issues.  

I commented on this point on another WA thread.  There were benefits to the 2001 incumbent protection plan for WA.  Yes Hastings has his spot plus McDermott, Smith and Dicks have very sweet committee assignments.  McDermott has his thumb on tax & trade issues which are big for WA. There are real benefits to states letting their congressman accumlate seniority.  


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Census Tract
122702 in Kew Gardens New Jersey is
25 percent White
27 percent Black
30 percent Hispanic
14 percent Asian

19, gay male, IL-7, MN 4 (college), Dem

Kew Gardens, New York you mean?


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If its NY . . .
its the neighborhood where I grew up.  Wow.  Kew Gardens is #1!!!!!

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oh hey
I grew up in Richmond Hill

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50511
Tract 50511, between Johns Creek and Lawrenceville, Georgia, is pretty well balanced.

White: 28%
Black: 24%
Hispanic: 27%
Asian: 19%


I always forget
How quickly Georgia is gaining minorities, especially Hispanics and Asians. Its quite astounding.

19, gay male, IL-7, MN 4 (college), Dem

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Lol.
Come 2015, those whites won't be there anymore.

http://mypolitikal.com/

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Maybe.
   It's a very wealthy area with large properties. Most of those families are there to stay.

24, Male, GA-05

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Philadelphia
Track 313 in Northeast Philadelphia provides this balance:

Whites: 27%
Blacks: 25%
Hispanics: 20%
Asians: 23%


I wouldn't have even thought
of checking Philadelphia, but you're right, some of the best results are there. I found another one in south Philly, around that Vietnamese pocket on Washington St.: Census tract 2701, which is 29 white, 22 black, 26 Asian, and 21 Hispanic.

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Saint Paul's east side
Census tract 315 in St. Paul, MN:

24: White
26: Black
15: Hispanic
27: Asian
2: Native American
6: Multiracial

For the upper midwest, that's about as diverse as it gets. In fact, the census showed St. Paul as now just 55% white, and Minneapolis at around 60% white. St. Paul's east side is home to one of the country's largest Hmong populations, and Minneapolis probably has the largest Somali population of anywhere outside of East Africa. For some reason, the Twin Cities seem to like taking in interesting refugee populations.

Male, 20; living in MN-6 (unfortunately), born NJ-7


I know a lot about the Hmong.
Particularly about their community in Merced, California.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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You can draw a majority minority district in Minnesota
Well sort of. I got a 51.3% minority total population district but is only 43.3% VAP. It's butt ugly but not really to hard to do, just draw tentacles connecting most of the minority heavy district in the Twin Cities area.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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really?
We tried this awhile back with the old information and with Daves 1.0, and it was impossible to make a minority-majority district.  I'll have to try it at some point with the full census information.

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Three-way balance
Census tract 900409 in Dale City, VA
29% White
27% Black
31% Hispanic

and right next door, tract 900407
27% White
33% Black
31% Hispanic

Male, VA-08


What about this map?
This was drawn in about three minutes, 49.7% White VAP. I guess with carefully selecting precincts you could get 49.3% or so.

WA-Minority Majority

12% Black, 13% Hispanic, 20% Asian, 1% Native, 4% Other.  

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)


In Boston
Ward 16, Precinct 4 (Dorchester): 32B, 23W, 23A, 12H, 10 "other"
Ward 10, Precinct 4 (Jamaica Plain): 37W, 23H, 21A, 17B
Ward 10, Precinct 1 (Fenway): 31H, 28B, 27W, 12A

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

Wichita, Kansas
I have never heard anyone call Kansas diverse (especially outside of the Kansas City area), but census tract 18 in Wichita is

37 White
23 Black
22 Hispanic
15 Asian

19, gay male, IL-7, MN 4 (college), Dem


Long Beach (Bixby Knolls)
Census Tract 571504 W28, H29, B21,A17, Multi-racial 4.  

27, Dem, CA-39 (home), OR-04 (school)

Maj-min districts as a goal seem silly.
I can understand a district meant to make sure a group that traditionally has been underrepresented gets representation.  IE Mississippi is close to 40% African-American and we all know without the VRA that instantly becomes 0% of the representation.  I can also understand a maj-minority district in a communities of interest map.  Like say if the goal was a Seattle based district irregardless of race.

But to create one just for the sakes of creating one fails on two couns.  First it targets a group (in this case whites) to NOT get a seat rather than necessarily helps a group get a seat.  And second it usually doesn't even succeed in doing that.  A 49% white distict in Seattle will probably elect a white Democrat.  Put that 49% white district in a much more conservative area particularly in the South it will instead elect a white Republican.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


I will go one step further
while AA & inner city hispanics vote similar in GEs its not the case in primaries.  In TX29 & SD51 primaries where hispanics ran against white candidates (Green & Filner) AA democrats voted for the white candidate.  I note that Asians, white and AA voters also ganged up against hispanic candidates in the open CA32 seat in 2009.  That was the Chu win over two hispanics who filed for the Solis seat.  Coalition seats often elect white liberals, nothing wrong with that per se, as opposed to electing minorities.  

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Agreed that both would probably just get a white Dem in the seat anyway
Especially with two area incumbent Congressmen lying around, it all sounds like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory to me.

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