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RI, SC, and WV: Population by CD

by: Crisitunity

Wed Mar 23, 2011 at 6:47 PM EDT


Rhode Island doesn't offer much for redistricting fans to sink their teeth into: it has two districts that are about equally blue, the Dems control the redistricting trifecta, and the disparity between the two districts, while not New Hampshire-close, requires only minimal boundary-shifting. Rhode Island's target is a tiny 526,284 (only up from 524K in 2000... Rhode Island had the smallest growth, percentage-wise, of any state over the decade, putting it 2nd overall behind only Michigan, which actually lost population). If this continues, there's the distinct possibility we could see Rhode Island reduced to one House seat come 2020. Also worth noting: Rhode Island had a lot of Hispanic growth over the decade, not quite on par with the Southwest but high for the Northeast; it went from 8.5% Hispanic to 12.4%, and Providence moved to a Hispanic plurality.

District Rep. Population Deviation
RI-01 Cicilline (D) 519,021 (7,263)
RI-02 Langevin (D) 533,546 7,263
Total: 1,052,567

South Carolina is gaining one seat to move from six to seven; its new target based on 7 seats is 660,766 (it was 668K in 2000, so every district gained significantly over the decade). With the GOP holding the trifecta and much of the growth seeming to come among white retirees, look for the creation of one more Republican-friendly seat... with one possible wild card, that the Obama DOJ might weigh in and push for a second African-American VRA seat (theoretically possible if terribly ugly, as SSP's crack team of freelance mapmakers have shown here). The biggest growth has come in the coastal Low Country, rather than the fiercely evangelical uplands; I'd expect Charleston and Myrtle Beach, both part of SC-01 for now, to wind up each anchoring their own districts.

District Rep. Population Deviation
SC-01 Scott (R) 856,956 196,190
SC-02 Wilson (R) 825,324 164,558
SC-03 Duncan (R) 722,675 61,909
SC-04 Gowdy (R) 770,226 109,460
SC-05 Mulvaney (R) 767,773 107,007
SC-06 Clyburn (D) 682,410 21,644
Total: 4,625,364

West Virginia is staying at three seats for now, although it might be headed for two seats in 2020, given its slow growth and low targets; its target is 617,665, only up from 603K in 2000. The 3rd, in coal country in the southern part of the state, is losing population (though not as fast as one might suspect); the 2nd needs to shed an amount equivalent to what the 3rd needs to gain, leaving the 1st pretty stable. Much of the state's growth is in the far east tip of the Panhandle (in the 2nd), especially Berkeley County, which serves as Washington DC's furthest-out exurbs. Dave Wasserman, who seems to get all the good redistricting-related gossip, says that while the obvious solution (moving Mason County from the 2nd to the 3rd, and calling it a wrap) still seems likely, the Dems who control the redistricting trifecta might want to cobble together a slightly Dem-friendlier 1st along the state's northern boundary that includes both Morgantown and the Panhandle exurbs (the only counties in the state that are getting bluer).

District Rep. Population Deviation
WV-01 McKinley (R) 615,991 (1,674)
WV-02 Capito (R) 648,186 30,521
WV-03 Rahall (D) 588,817 (28,848)
Total: 1,852,994
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South Carolina
If the DOJ is even toying with the idea of pushing for a second VRA seat in Virginia or Louisiana, as rumor has it, then I think there's no doubt they will do so in the case of South Carolina.

Might I add, there was nothing "terribly ugly" in my view about the serious 2-VRA-seat maps that I recall from a couple months ago when this was a hot topic. I do recall one absurd map, but that person seemed to be terribly confused about South Carolina demographics.

Of course, the actual Census data might not make two VRA seats work out quite as smoothly, then again maybe it'll make them easier to draw even more compactly than the maps that were based on projected data. I guess we'll know soon enough!


Re: SC, LA, VA
Of those three, South Carolina is by far the easiest to draw 2 AA minority majority districts. I think Louisana is slightly less of a reach than Virginia, and the Obama DOJ appears to be pushing for a 2nd AA district there.

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I went back and looked
There were some real doozies which unfortunately were the ones that were sticking in my mind, but yes, you're right, these ones look very smooth.

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FWIW
Here were my last two South Carolina maps, each featuring two majority-black VRA seats, and I don't think anyone would call them terribly ugly. This is of course based on the old projections, so we'll see what can be done with actual Census figures.

I think some people just like to draw crazy maps. lol



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Curious about the coastal district (SC-01)
Right now Charleston (increasingly blue) is balanced pretty well by its own conservative suburbs and especially so by Myrtle Beach (of very red Horry County).  Although, as we saw in 2008 it is vulnerable to swings as Linda Ketner almost unseated incumbent Henry Brown.

If they take Horry county out of SC-01 it goes blue in the next good year for us.  I'm trying to think of how else the GOP legislature could ensure a Charleston-based district elects a Republican...perhaps by cracking the town and splitting its residents with Clyburn's district...in essence a Columbia-to-Charleston Dem vote sink.  Would be an ugly arrangement but such things have been permitted for VRA districts.

They also need to be careful with Joe Wilson's district, as it isn't entirely safe either (unlike the northwest corner of the state which is hardcore GOP).


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Rhode Island is definitely on track to lose a seat next time
They're about to get passed up by Montana, which only has 63K less people than Rhode Island.  If Montana picks it up quite a bit it could conceivably gain back the 2nd seat it lost 20 years ago.

WV redistricting
Here's my WV plan

I designed it so that Oliverio would win a rematch with McKinley in CD1.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4gtq...

18, Blue Dog Democrat, Male, NC-09 (Home), LA-06(College)  


Here's my attempt
I based my map on the 2010 Senate Race, and tried to pack as many Manchin Counties as possible into WV-01, and anticipate Capito moving on, (so I felt free to crack it open and tie in Charles Town into Rahall's district, while moving out a few conservative, VA boarder counties that are dragging the district down, Charles Town is also one of the only areas in the state where Democrats are improving, strength-wise, at a national and local level, and have been consistently for the past decade, it's also growing).

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Notice I split one county
in the whole state.  

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Notice I split one county
County splitting is prohibited.

Your map would work out nicely though....

18, Blue Dog Democrat, Male, NC-09 (Home), LA-06(College)  


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Even for Population requirements?


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Yes
In some places like West Virginia or Iowa a difference of a few thousand people is tolerated to avoid county splitting. It seems pretty reasonable to me; whether or not one district has a few thousand more people doesn't really matter, especially given that the districts are bound to have those differences within a year or two anyway.

Male, VA-08

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This is a really good map, not only...
Politically, but looks a lot better and makes more geographic sense then the current map.

20, Democrat, Male, MI-06 (Home), MI-02 (College)

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That Shatters Rahall's District Thought
Would someone who has been in the House since the 1970s be okay with it? And would Southern West Virginians (who are the most tight knit part of the state) be okay with it? It seems bizarre to me to link Martinsburg and Sheperdstown with Bluefield and Beckley. Both as far as a communities of interest approach, and in terms of taking out one of the Republican incumbents, I think that map Wasserman has been showing (linking the Morgantown/Fairmont area with the Eastern Panhandle, and forcing McKinley into a district that's linked to Charleston) makes more sense.

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I think the core of his district reminds
untouched. I wasn't trying to make a nice map, I was trying to pack as many John Raese voters as I could into a single district.

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Well That's Fine
But a lot of people in Charleston would see the core of Rahall's district as the Raleigh to Logan county area - so splitting Raleigh from the other coal counties to its West would raise some hackles. And sure, Rahall might like the Jefferson County Democrats (though they are a lot different from the Raliegh County Democrats) but you are also giving him Berkeley County, the fastest growing place in the state, and a very Republican area. You might be edging the 1st back to the Democrats, but it wouldn't shock me if this turned Rahall's district into a Republican seat represented by a Eastern Panhandle Republican.

But I hope that you are right and the legislature does something to elect a second Democrat in WV. It should be pretty easy to do that, regardless of the exact map.


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Armand said
that Oliverio didn't campaign hard at all, which is why he lost.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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I once did a
beautiful gerrymander of Louisiana with three 50 + percent black seats, which can be done.

As for right now, I think there is no reason the Obama DoJ shouldn't force Jindal and the Republican state legislature to make 2 black majority seats. The black population is about 40% of the states total population, yet is project to have only one of 6 seats.

It really doesn't look too ugly, surprisingly it is much more difficult now and much uglier to make a New Orleans based VRA black majority seat.

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LA-05, (Yellow), Takes in the black areas of Baton Rouge, Hammond, Washington Parish, as well as West and East Feliciana parishes, parts of northern Lafayette Parish, including Carencro and other heavily black areas, St. Landry parish, including Opelousas, Parts of Evangeline, all of Concordia, (which would actually have a rather conservative lean), eastern half of Rapides, including all of Pineville-Alexandria, then up along the delta counties before pulling inward to take in downtown Monroe Richland. 54.6% AA

LA-01: Just a snake of a district trying to get in the diverse areas of south LA. 50.4% AA, thought only 37% white, and a sizable portion of that being white NOLA liberals.

Both LA-01 and LA-05 would be reasonably safe districts for Democrats. The rest of the state wouldn't even be mildly competitive. Bill Cassidy is drawn in with Jeff Landry, Charles Boustany keeps the southern core of his district, but gains a great deal of non-cajun territory in North Louisiana to correct population losses, and Fleming and Alexander end up tossed together in one big North Louisiana district. Depending on how nasty the primary is, and how black turnout is, this LA-03 could be the Democrats best other hope for a pick up in 2012. Still a long shot.  


As I have seen, a pretty 2 VRA district map
draws a second VRA district that is L-shaped.  The one problem is that it has both at low 50's% AA VAP.  However, it can be argued that such retrogression is the only way to satisfy the requirements.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Lousiana's Black population is
too spread out for it to really be done any other way. This actually has the least radical racial gerrymandering.  

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Thanks for posting this info on these CDs
No major surprises and I expect the rumoured swap of one county to happen in WV.  Rahall has the mojo and Capito seems unmoveable in her seat.  That's my guess.

I am a bit leery of the second VRA CD for SC idea.  There seems several barriers to that but one never knows.  

1. The 50% VAP barrier for AA's seem rather high.
2. Previous court rulings  set a pretty high standard for the creation of VRA seats as "racial gerrymanders" are not required.  If I can see a map with two seats with 50%VAP with no towns or counties divided only racial lines then I might feel differently.  Right now its hard to get to one seat in SC to 50% AA VAP without splitting counties so getting to two seems quite hard. I do think, however, beyond a doubt that the GOP will perserve Clyburn's seat a they would be fearful of a retrogression claim.  


Splitting up Clyburn's seat
would be a big dummbymander.  

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Not Much To Lose
I don't see Dems winning any other seats in SC any other way.
They might as well go for broke in the Deep South.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03

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How come Rhode Island gets two
seats with such a low population? Louisiana had an average at something like 655,000 with 7 seats, but its losing one to 6.  

Because
RI's population divided by two is closer to the average CD pop (somewhere around 700,000) than RI's total population.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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Thanks.
That makes sense.  

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AR
Um what in the world are Arkansas Democrats doing?  I hope this is not a sign of things to come.

29/D/Male/NY-01

It looks to me
As if they think 3-1 Dem is still within reach. Clearly they don't believe the Obama 2008 performance is representative of in-state politics and that 2010 was a fluke. Let's hope they're right..

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It's still possible, yes.
but it's a big gamble when 2-2 is a much safer bet.  I hope the State Senate explores the 2-2 in their version as I think it's much better if they want to knock out Griffin.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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It's a big gamble to be sure
The problem is in a bad year for Dems, I could see this going 4-0 Republican.  

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