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MN, NM, and TN: Population by CD

by: Crisitunity

Wed Mar 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM EDT


Today and yesterday's Census data dump is of three states that didn't gain or lose seats but will need some internal adjustment to reflect population movement from the cities and the rural areas to the suburbs: Minnesota, New Mexico, and Tennessee. (It also included three states with at-large seats that we won't need to discuss: Alaska, Montana, and North Dakota.)

Minnesota barely made the cut for retaining its eighth seat (13,000 fewer people statewide and it would have lost it), which you can see in its very low new target: 662,991 per district. (That's up from about 615K in 2000.) Despite the fact that Michele Bachmann lives there, people keep pouring into MN-06 in the outer-ring suburbs and exurbs to the north, west, and east of the Twin Cities. Only it and MN-02, taking in the southern suburbs/exurbs, will need to shed population, giving part to the rural 1st and 7th, and part to the urban 4th and 5th (and suburban-but-boxed-in 3rd). With split redistricting control, look for the parties, if they're able to agree, to settle on incumbent protection.

Talk of moving the college town of St. Cloud, currently in MN-06, into MN-08 (which would enable Tarryl Clark to run there) may be premature, as MN-08 gained enough population that it can remain about the same. In fact, the fact that it did so may say a lot about last year's election; the 8th's growth has been happening at its southern end, where the MSP exurbs begin and where new Rep. Chip Cravaack hails from, and the population growth in this area has outpaced losses in the dark-blue Iron Range to the north, Jim Oberstar's traditional turf.

District Rep. Population Deviation
MN-01 Walz (D) 644,787 (18,204)
MN-02 Kline (R) 732,515 69,524
MN-03 Paulsen (R) 650,185 (12,806)
MN-04 McCollum (D) 614,624 (48,367)
MN-05 Ellison (D) 616,482 (46,509)
MN-06 Bachmann (R) 759,478 96,487
MN-07 Peterson (D) 625,512 (37,479)
MN-08 Cravaack (R) 660,342 (2,649)
Total: 5,303,925

New Mexico's target is 686,393, based on staying at three seats (up from 606K in 2000). Not much change needs to happen between the districts; the largely rural NM-02 will need to gain some population, probably from the southern suburbs of Albuquerque in NM-01. New Mexico has become appreciably more Hispanic over the last decade, though maybe not as dramatically as the other three border states (California, Arizona, and Texas), moving as a state from 45% non-Hispanic white and 42% Hispanic in 2000 to 40% non-Hispanic white and 46% Hispanic in 2010. That means that, since 2000, it has become the first state with a Hispanic plurality. The movement was fairly consistent among districts, with the 1st going from 42% to 48% Hispanic, the 2nd going from 47% to 52% Hispanic, and the 3rd going from 36% to 39% Hispanic (the 3rd, though, is the least-white of the three districts, thanks to an 18% Native American population, which stayed consistent over the decade).

District Rep. Population Deviation
NM-01 Heinrich (D) 701,939 15,546
NM-02 Pearce (R) 663,956 (22,437)
NM-03 Lujan (D) 693,284 6,891
Total: 2,059,179

Tennessee stays comfortably at nine seats, and its new target is 705,122 (up from 632K in 2000). It, like Minnesota, has seen a big population shift from cities and rural areas to suburbs and exurbs, as seen in the huge growth in the 6th (which half-circles Nashville on the east) and the 7th (a thin gerrymander that hooks up Nashville's southern suburbs with Memphis's eastern suburbs). In particular, western Tennessee, both in the city (TN-09) and the rural areas (TN-08) were hard-hit, with the 8th barely gaining and the 9th outright losing population. The GOP controls the redistricting process for the first time here, but with them up 7-2 in the current House delegation (and with Memphis unfixably blue), look for them to lock in current gains rather than getting aggressive with TN-05 (seeing as how Nashville could be cracked into multiple light-red urban/suburban districts, although that has 'dummymander' written all over it).  

District Rep. Population Deviation
TN-01 Roe (R) 684,093 (21,029)
TN-02 Duncan (R) 723,798 18,676
TN-03 Fleischmann (R) 692,346 (12,776)
TN-04 Des Jarlais (R) 688,008 (17,114)
TN-05 Cooper (D) 707,420 2,298
TN-06 Black (R) 788,754 83,632
TN-07 Blackburn (R) 792,605 87,483
TN-08 Fincher (R) 658,258 (46,864)
TN-09 Cohen (D) 610,823 (94,299)
Total: 6,346,105
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There's a lot of talk
that Tim Walz could get a tougher district, absorbing conservative exurbanites from the 2nd. But wouldn't Gov. Dayton insist on a safer seat for Walz? Can it be made any safer, or is that area of the state too devoid of obvious Democratic areas?

20 years old, male, GA-12 (home), GA-10 (school); previously lived in CA-29, CA-28, CA-23, IL-06, IL-14, GA-01.

Rice County
Rice County borders MN-01 and went to Obama by 12 points in 2008. It includes the college town of Northfield (Where Paul Wellstone taught). Move Rice County to MN-01 and it shores up Walz and Kline.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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Blue stuff
So there are a few things that could happen to MN1 in redistricting. The first question that needs to be answered is if the 7th will pick up the westernmost portions of the 1st. This could be done to maintain the 7th as a rural district. Most likely I believe the court will simply take some from the 6th to give to the 7th (and this will end up being decided by the courts).

There is really only one option to add blue turf to the 1st, and that is taking Rice County. Of course, Rice has too large of a population to take the whole county, so likely you're looking at just the southern part, including the city of Faribault. This is likely to put us a little over population so there would perhaps needs to be a little shedding elsewhere.

What I see as being the most likely option is moving LeSueur county into the first, or at least two thirds of it. There are already 2 precincts from the county in the 1st, and it is very similar to what is already in the 1st.

Or they could take Redwood, which would be almost enough people, but would be taking from the 7th, something unlikely to happen.

I don't think we need to worry too much about LeSueur moving into the first. As a county, it is a little conservative, but a lot of the type of people that Tim Walz appeals to. And if they decide to take some SW counties for the 7th and give Walz more of the Southern 2nd, that is good for him, as the SW is more conservative than the southern 2nd.


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If you are adding a portion of Rice...
I would think that if you are adding a portion of Rice to Walz's district that it would make sense to add Northfield with Carleton and St. Olaf Colleges (Carleton alum here) more than Faribault. They give large margins to Dems and that way you shore up Walz and remove a thorn in Kline's side if his district were become more blue in the future...  

Born and raised (OH-1), College (MN-2), GradSchool (CA-53), Postdoc1 (BC), Postdoc2 (IA-2) (later this month)

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Re
Adding Northfield while skipping Faribault would make a very weird looking area of the district. If anything from Rice comes in, it would be Faribault. Yes, Northfield is better, but it just won't happen.

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MN-08
Since the Republican areas of MN-08 are on the outskirts of the district and the Democratic areas of the district are on the interior it will be next to impossible for Republicans to strengthen Chip Cravaack much. This is still a Democratic leaning district, every Dem running statewide won it easily, Oberstar's loss had more to do with him becoming a creature of DC and not paying enough attention to his district than with some yearning to elect a Republican.  

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

One Option
I could see the GOP exploring the idea of moving the western parts of the 8th into the 7th and then picking up more from the 6th to make 8 more conservative.

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I agree that cracking Nashville is a no-no if Republicans want a solid map
Some counties in Tennessee still will vote Democratic for the right candidate and Nashville in multiple districts with places like that is a surefire dummymander in an unfavorable GOP year.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

Agree
in addition, Jim Cooper has won in tough territory before, and if he were to have to run in a cracked district his sometimes-annoying moderation would come in handy. I think the TN GOP knows this (they're idiots if they don't) and they won't try anything cute in Nashville.  

20, Democrat, KY-01

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I think the GOP will lock 7-2 plus the state senate and house
for a long time this session.  Or maybe next session.

For TN8 they will put the AA parts of TN8 into TN9.  Cohen's seat will approach +70% AA. In return I think Fincher will get Arlington/Lakeland/ and North Bartlett area of Shelby county.  That will move that seat about 4% to the R side.  Fincher lost Shelby by 3K in 2010 and should win that part by 5K or more in 2012.

I think CD3 & CD4 will end up with a few more R's but that's about it.  CD6 & CD7 will just be smoothed out.  You might see Montgomery county placed completely in CD5 and have Robertson county moved to CD6.  Diana Black would like that.  


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Robertson is already in the sixth
The 5th doesn't need to change much population-wise, plus putting Mongtomery there would look weird (though I doubt that matters much), so I don't see that happening. More likely all of Montgomery gets put in the 8th. There's really no reason for Clarksville to be split like it is any longer. The 7th should probably be smoothed out, as should the 3rd. Both are unnecessarily ugly.  

20, Democrat, KY-01

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Mercy so it is. I got my bifocals on now
How about the balance of Sumner county into the sixth then putting all of Montgomery into #5.  On second thought I like your idea better.  Put the balance of Montgomery into #8 and let it lose Dickson.

WestKYdem here is your challenge.  If Davidson county is not split then it must be D sinkhole. What to do you attach to it?  Westward ho is the best way to go?

Quite a puzzle  


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Do you have a link to the MT data, maybe? :)
I did some internal work for the Montana Democrats on the 2014 Legislative Redistricting, and I'll need to revisit my lines.  

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)

FactFinder2
(the new Census Bureau interface, which is the only format 2010 data is available in) doesn't generate a new url for each search, so I can't give you a direct link, but if you just go to their main page and click on "Geographies" one of the options is seeing 2010 data by legislative district, so click on that and "View," and then click on Montana on the drop-down menu. (SDs 34 and 35 are the biggest gainers... is that Billings?)

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Bozeman actually. Interesting.
Urban areas gaining is good for Democrats, so they can take in more rural areas and offset them. Rural-Urban is how the redistricting works in Montana, Democrats try to pack the GOP in rural seats and balance the other rural areas out with downtown 70-30 Dem territory, the GOP tries to pack Dems in the larger cities and crack the smaller ones.

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)

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I find it adorable
The fact that you thing that Minnesota's legislature and governor could "agree" on a map. That hasn't happened in my lifetime, and may not ever happen in my lifetime. The courts are going to draw the map, and just shift some of the 6th to the 7th (This is far county we are talking about anyways, Peterson's forte.). I see Washington County giving some of it's area to the 4th to make population meet. Since both the 5th and 3rd need to gain population, I think that either the 3rd or the 5th with expand further into Anoka County (My bet is on the 5th taking up Blaine). We will see what the judges do though. Traditionally, the court maps have kept good tabs on communities of interest, and keep districts mostly compact (The 6th district is a bit of an ugly duckling currently, though).

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


Also adorable
I find it adorable and funny that St Cloud is described as a college town.  I grew up there, my parents still live there, and there's nothing "college town" about it--especially if you're thinking Madison or Austin or Columbus or Eugene... as your model for "college town."  Despite 3 colleges in the area, I think it's more accurately described "exurban traffic nightmare with a sizable chunk of old conservative German Catholics."

As a few people have said, and I agree, I feel that much of the rest of Stearns County will/could be shifted from the 8th to the 7th.  The Western half of the county is there now.  I think the GOP and the DFL could agree to move the areas including St Cloud, St. John's and St. Ben's (in St. Joseph), along with all of the other Saints in the area, to protect Blue Dog Peterson, and leave some of the redder areas to protect Bachmann.  That would more than make up for the 37K that Peterson needs to pick up.


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That would be tough to gerrymander snakes through the county like that.
I think you meant from the 6th to the 7th. The 8th doesn't really come close to Stearns County any more (it used to). I think that Peterson would be perfectly okay with taking on all of Stearns County. The conservative areas are farmers, who LOVE him. And as you said, the less conservative areas (I won't say liberal in relation to anything in Stearns County) are college towns. But you're right that St. Cloud isn't a college town. There is a college neighborhood in the town, but it is kind of on the fringe corner of the city itself, along the river. It really doesn't define the city at all.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


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Ooops: you're right
Yes:  6th to 7th.
I agree on everything else.  Including: My dad was one of those farmers who LOVED Peterson and voted for him back in the 90s when the 7th included more of Stearns County.  To his credit, Peterson definitely puts the "F" in DFL.

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Agreed on it not being a college town
The city isn't a population center because of the college but rather that's where German Catholics settled.  One St. Cloud State U. note; they do not vote and are horribly non-political.  Total party school with drunk hick kids who will only vote for Jose or jack.  Which leads to me not blame DFL for not trying but that SCSU is just too much of an energy suck.  Way too many Republicans, way too many DFL-leaning voters who will need to be GOTV'd to absolute death.

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NM Results
Perfect solution for NM-01 is to take Torrance County and give it to Pearce. That will shift it to about D + 7. Heinrich or more likely his replacement will be much more favored in this district. With split control in NM it's hard to really change the boundaries much and doing this would essentially put Pearce at ideal population. It would sure up Pearce even more.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

Pearce probably needs it
He is way too conservative to be able to win a district that Obama wins in 2012 (Obama only barely lost it last time, and a Harry Teague type Democrat can win here). There's no way they'll let Pearce's district get weakened at all (or at least, Pearce won't let it happen).

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Agree
It would make sense to do that. Heinrich/Dems would be more than happy to dump Torrance County and it adds just about the right amount of population to Pearce (it is about 17K). Pearce would get a little more help and NM-01 would become bluer and it would give Dems a lot more breathing room in a bad year. It would likely secure at 2-1 delegation for the next decade.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

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No big surprises in these numbers
and have suggested for months several plans to ease everyone's pain in MN.  Its not a final deal but the VA congressional delegation has put together a deal.  I really expect to see a  deal on the MN seats.  The lack of any major candidate from the Iron range area actually increases the chances that one of these scenerios come about.

1st scenerio--Walz gets most of Rice and loses Wabasha county. That's a small move to the left for him.  Peterson gets rest of Beltrami and some of Koochiching to do his 36K shortfall.  MN8 picks up 38K in Benton county.  That moves MN7 a bit to the left and MN a bit to the right.

2nd scenerio. MN7 picks up balance of Beltram, Koochiching and Itasca counties.  CD7 loses a county in SE part of seat to CD2. MN8 picks up the eastern part of Stearns county that includes Clark's home.  Simlar move for Walz in CD1 as listed above.

This helps the three key incumbents and may or may not create a 4-4 map.  Not sure this happens but watch the incumbents.


Your Minnesota scenario
That would split the iron range, and that is a no-no. It's one of those communities of interest that won't broken up.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


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MN redistricting
The two Twin City districts needing to pick up so much territory, I'd say, completely cancels out getting to cut out rural territory out of MN-2 and MN-6 and make at least one of them more competitive.  It does now seem almost guaranteed that Bachmann's home will be put in MN-4, as the city of Woodbury almost identically matches the population needed for MN-4, borders it, and still keeps it strictly east metro.  Not sure about Ellison's.  Needing that much pop. is going to make MN-3 safer, most likely.

Wow even MN-1 grew more than MN-4 and MN-5.  Expect to see MN-5 to turn this around over the next decade.  Mpls was just starting to hit it's stride in the condo market but then the economy hit.  Units were already being sold in what would have been the tallest all residential building west of Mississippi, but project canceled.  Currently, Mpls has one of the best economies and lowest unemployment rates in the country, and RT Rybak is the shit and knows how to get people to build in downtown.

Downtown St. Paul also has a budding new housing area called Lowertown, and it actually has done really well despite the economy.  The new inter-downtown lightrail will have it's last stop in the neighborhood at the starting to get renovated Union Depot.  And the stimulus provided a lot of tax credits for building stuff and St. Paul heavily took advantage because they had many shovel ready, but fucked over, projects to go.  But I don't know if this one neighborhood will provide too much growth.

(Not proofreading because I gotta go to work!)


I'm using a rudimentary map..
But I would guess that Brooklyn Park gets split in half, with half staying in MN-03 and half going to MN-05. Brooklyn Park is a Democratic city, so that should help Paulsen and keep Ellison nice and safe. If the Democrats could add a city like Edina instead, that would be better for team Blue, but I'm thinking they try to protect incumbency and hold the two urban seats separate. Paulsen can pick up the losses from Wright or Stearns county.

My guess is that MN-04 pushes south a bit further into Dakota County and takes the inner suburbs from Kline that tend to vote more Democratic (Inner Grove Heights) or East into Woodbury.

Either way the effect will be to make the Republican suburban districts a little more red, with MN-03 being a continual source of moderation.

In other words, I predict this will be a pretty ho-hum round of redistricting.


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Thankyou sooo much for adding the current Rep and Party column
It makes it so much easier to fully appreciate what is happening in these districts and which party held seats are likely to be most effected by gerrymandering.

What?
You haven't memorized every district and representative by now?  (There are some here who have; the Senate is all I will bother with.)

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