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SSP Daily Digest: 3/7

by: DavidNYC

Mon Mar 07, 2011 at 8:04 AM EST


HI-Sen: I'm not sure where these rumors started - or if they're just tradmed speculation - but Gov. Neil Abercrombie says he hasn't tried to get retiring Sen. Dan Akaka to resign early in order to appoint a replacement (who could then run for a full term next year as an incumbent). Count me among those who thinks former Gov. Linda Lingle isn't as intimidating in real life as she might seem on paper - particularly given the fact that Barack Obama is running for re-election, and that her exit poll approvals in 2010 were a sucky 41-56. So I'm not convinced there'd even really be any point in trying to push an Akaka resignation.

ME-Sen: As we wait for the Great Teabagger Hope to deliver our dreams, the Hotline has word of another possible challenger to Sen. Olympia Snowe: former state legislator Carol Weston, who is now the state director of the Maine branch of the David Koch front group Americans for Prosperity. That could mean access to serious resources - something Weston acknowledges is a key factor in deciding on a run. Anyhow, she's not ruling out a run, but claims she isn't really considering it yet. But she also says that as part of her job with AfP, she sometimes has to "reign in" Snowe - pretty denigrating words, if you ask me!

MI-Sen: We've mentioned him before, but now he's making it official: Former juvenile court judge and all-around social conservative Randy Hekman says he'll seek the GOP line to challenge Debbie Stabenow. Hekman sounds decidedly Some Dude-level, though.

NV-Sen: This time, the joke comes pre-written. The ultra-wealthy Sue Lowden still has hundreds of thousands in campaign debts and has now been sued by her former polling company, Denver-based Vitale & Associates, for unpaid bills. The pollster's attorney said Lowden is "probably driving around in her Bentley with a load of chickens in the back as barter to settle her campaign debts."

PA-Sen: Pretty sweet re-elects for Bob Casey (D) in this new Muhlenberg College poll of registered voters: 48% say yes, 24% no, and 25% are unsure. Against Generic R, Casey pulls 41 to 27, but Muhlenberg also allowed people to say "it depends on the candidate" (not sure that's such a helpful choice), which scored 18. It's not entirely clear what the sample looked like, though, since the Mule only gives the breakdowns for their larger "all adults" sample (36D, 36R, 11I). In 2008, it was 44D, 37R, 18I.

RI-Sen, RI-01: The head of the Rhode Island state police, Brendan Doherty, just unexpectedly announced that he would resign in April, and that's leading to talk he might be considering a run for office as a Republican. Though Doherty had originally been appointed by Republican Gov. Don Carcieri, he was re-appointed only last week by the new governor, Lincoln Chafee. Anyhow, Doherty supposedly is choosing between a challenge to Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse or to freshman Rep. David Cicilline in the first district. He says he'll announce his plans at the end of May.

VA-Sen, VA-11: Rep. Gerry Connolly (D) is opting out of a Senate run, saying instead he'll seek re-election to a third term in the House. Like just about everyone else, he also declared that he wants to see Tim Kaine run. Speaking of which, Sen. Mark Warner said on the teevee this weekend that he thinks the odds of Kaine jumping in were "slim" but "are getting a lot better right now." I have no idea if Warner has any special insight, or if maybe he's just trying to pull a reverse-Inouye here (i.e., goad someone into running).

On a related note, PPP has a state-level report card out for VA politicians.

NV-Gov: Jon Ralston calls it "one of the most brazen schemes in Nevada history" (not just electoral history! and this is Nevada!), while Rory Reid says everything he did was "fully disclosed and complied with the law." Ralston describes this "scheme" as the formation of "91 shell political action committees that were used to funnel three quarters of a million dollars into his campaign." Ralston's had wall-to-wall coverage at his site. Among other things, Reid's legal advisor wrote a letter to the campaign saying he thought the use of these PACs was legal - and, in a point that Ralston is seriously disputing, also said he got sign-off from the Secretary of State. I don't really think Reid had much of a future in NV politics anyway, but if Ralston's reading of the situation is right, this could spell a lot of trouble for him. If not, then it's just some sketchy politics-as-usual. Even Ralston himself acknowledges that "the point here is less whether it actually was legal... but whether it should be."

CA-36: Finally some endorsements for Debra Bowen: She just announced the backing of state Sens. Alan Lowenthal and Fran Pavley, state Rep. Betsy Butler, and former state Sen. Sheila Kuehl.

MN-08: This is from a couple of weeks ago, but still relevant: Duluth-area state Sen. Roger Reinert says he won't challenge freshman GOPer Chip Cravaack next year, adding his name to the list of Dems who have declined to run. Others who have said no: Duluth Mayor Don Ness; former state House Majority Leader Tony Sertich; state Rep. Tom Rukavina; and state Senate Minority Leader Tom Bakk (whom we'd previously mentioned). Man, that's a lot of dudes named Tom! (UPDATE: Just two - it's Tony, not Tom, Sertich.) That's most of the heaviest hitters, but another possible candidate is Duluth City Councilman Jeff Anderson, who told FOX 21 that he is "very interested" (their words) in the race.

Milwaukee Co. Exec.: Huh - I'd managed to forget that Scott Walker didn't just emerge fully-formed out of a rent in David Koch's skull on January 1st, 2011. Until not that long ago, he was the Milwaukee County Executive, which means that his old seat is up in a special election next month. It should come as no surprise that Walker's extremely unpopular attempts at union busting have become the issue in the race, and Republican state Rep. Jeff Stone is suffering badly for it. Stone voted for Walker's budget bill, but now says he "would have preferred to leave the collective bargaining intact" - even though, as TPM notes, he voted against every Democratic amendment that would have done exactly that. Stone's nominally independent but really Democratic opponent, philanthropist Chris Abele, has been hammering him on this front. The April 5th vote is actually a run-off; last month, Stone took 43% while Abele scored 25%, splitting the Democratic vote with the remaining candidates (all of whom were on the lefty side of the equation).

PA-AG: Columnist Jan Ting, who took 29% against Tom Carper in DE-Sen in 2006 but later left the GOP, says he has heard that former Rep. Patrick Murphy is considering a run for Pennsylvania Attorney General. A source also informs me that this is true. Note that most of PA's statewide positions other than governor are up in 2012, so this race would be coming on soon. Note, too, that it will be an open seat: Newly-elected Gov. Tom Corbett was himself AG, and he appointed Pittsburgh-area prosecutor Linda Kelly to take his place. Kelly, however, has said she won't run for the post next year.

Ohio Ballot: Though it's gotten less attention than the fight in Wisconsin, Ohio is on the verge of passing legislation which strip collective bargaining rights from public workers. TPM reports that Ohio Dems are planning to put the law, known as SB 5, on the ballot (it'd take about 230,000 signatures), something which could happen either this November or next. This could wind up being a truly epic fight - though I'm also reminded of the last time Ohio Dems put up some lefty ballot measures in an odd-numbered year, and that didn't turn out so well. (The 2005 effort was called Reform Ohio Now, and you can read all about it in the SSP Deep Archives.) Still, I think our chances would be a lot better this time.

KS Redistricting: In 2002, state lawmakers split the rather blue Douglas County (home to the city of Lawrence) between two congressional districts, the 2nd and 3rd. Now, though, thanks to growth in Johnson County, the third has to shed population (as we informed you last week), and one Democratic legislator is suggesting that Douglas could be reunited in a single CD. This seems unlikely, though, as it's manifestly in the Republican Party's interest to keep Lawrence cracked.

NE Redistricting: There's a similar story playing out in neighboring Nebraska, where the now-famous 2nd CD (which gave Barack Obama a very narrow win - and a single electoral vote) also has to reduce its population. Light-blue Douglas County (no, I'm not losing it - different county, different state, same name as above) is currently entirely within the borders of NE-02, but it could potentially get cracked. The linked article discusses a number of different possible scenarios for the whole state, and even has some hypothetical maps.

NJ Redistricting: No surprise here: Democrats and Republicans couldn't agree on a new map for New Jersey's state legislative districts, so the Chief Judge of the Supreme Court, Stuart Rabner, appointed Rutgers Prof. Alan Rosenthal as tiebreaker (click here for a detailed profile). That wasn't a surprise, either, as the 78-year-old Rosenthal performed the same duties during the last two rounds of redistricting for the U.S. House. Rosenthal is a Democrat but has a very non-partisan reputation. Last time, Democrats convinced the appointed tiebreaker, Larry Bartels, that their proposed gerrymander would improve minority representation. A similar outcome is probably not so likely this time.

OR Redistricting: As you can see from all the above links, now that redistricting data has been released, we're starting to see a lot more redistricting-related stories with a little more meat to them. This piece outlines the issues facing Oregon and also explains some of the deadlines involved. If lawmakers don't enact a state lege map by July 1 (or the governor vetoes it), then the task falls to Secretary of State Kate Brown, a Democrat. This is typically what's happened in the past, though apparently there's some hope that the evenly-divided state House (with its unusual dual Speakerships) will produce something both sides can agree on. Note that there is no similar deadline for congressional redistricting.

PA Redistricting: Pennsylvania's congressional Republicans are headed to the state capital of Harrisburg this week, to discuss how best to gerrymander their map with their state legislative colleagues. Given that the GOP has absolute control over the redistricting process in PA, Democrats are going to get pretty fucked here, and PoliticsPA has a rundown of several possible scenarios that Republicans are supposedly considering.

New York: An issue which first came up nationwide last cycle is still percolating in New York. As we explained in September 2009, a new federal law (the MOVE Act) requires that absentee ballots be mailed to all overseas and military voters at least 45 days before the general election. That's a problem in states with late primaries, like New York, where results can't be certified and ballots can't be printed in time to meet this deadline. A couple of states (I think just Vermont and Minnesota) moved their primaries up a bit to aide compliance, but others, like NY, had to get waivers from the Department of Justice that allowed them to send out ballots later. Despite getting such a waiver, many boards of election (including NYC's) still failed to comply with even the later deadline - and now the DoJ (which had to sue NY last year) is unhappy with the state's lack of further efforts to remedy these problems. An association of local election commissioners, at a meeting in January, voted to ask the state legislature to move the primary to June to avoid these issues altogether.

Dave's Redistricting App: Dave has more data and more fixes, so that you can get your fix of data.

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MN-08
sorry to be a killjoy, but it's actually Tony Sertich. Just two Toms!

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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If you don't have anything nice to say...
Gah, I'll go fix it! :)

[ Parent ]
NE-02
The easiest solution for the Republicans would be to cut the northeastern part of Omaha out of the district; it's heavily-black, so removing it would shift NE-02 a few points to the Republicans.

With Lincoln
already in that district I could see that seriously backfiring against a strong, moderate Democrat in an open seat situation.  

[ Parent ]
NE-03
I have to think that the big, empty 3rd is going to be part of any serious gerrymander. It's such a waste of Republican votes right now. I've seen proposals that run the 3rd along the northern border, ducking down to pick up the most Democratic parts of Omaha, and others that give it the U of N section of Lincoln.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Now that I actually think
has little chance of happening. Rural farm-Republicans don't want a chunk of urban Omaha in their district. Not only would it be a travesty of communities of interest, but it also violates the state's longstanding boundaries. I remember that it was very controversial in 2002 when Republicans moved one smallish county from Fortenberry's district, (only it wasn't his then), and into NE-03. There was an enormous outrage because it was putting a solidly Democratic county, (for whatever local reason), into a hardcore Republican area. I can't imagine how big the backlash might be if they start sinking urban, minority heavy parts of Omaha in to 95% white farm lands 500 miles away.  

[ Parent ]
Their heads are going to fall off in 2020
since the state's probably going to lose a seat in the next reapportionment.

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It could be close
According to Election Data Services Nebraska's last seat given was this time around was #417. While Nebraska did grow at a slightly slower pace than the nation as a whole (6.7% vs 9.7%) I would guess they might be growing fast enough to keep 3 seats in 2020.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

[ Parent ]
And even so
it would be far more likely that an urban, Lincoln-Omaha district would form the new first in that case, while pretty much everything else in the state, including the near-Lincoln suburbs, would turn into a still farm-dominated rural NE-02.  

[ Parent ]
Never Happen
Nebraska prides itself on being at least on the surface non partisan (their legislature is officially non partisan). Any highly gerrymandered map done for solely partisan purposes would be a very tough sell.  

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

[ Parent ]
That seems a pretty remote chance
NE-01 is currently a McCain +10 district; diluting it a few points wouldn't likely endanger it that much.

[ Parent ]
I wonder if this is clearing
the field for a move for Clark & a plan to put Stearns county in MN8?

That would be nice
I really like her. If Al Franken were to retire in 2014 she would make a great replacement.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
MN 8
I would not expect the Reeps to agree to that. They could shuffle the twin cities districts around a little to help Paulsen by giving him some of Bachmann's exurbs, but I still don't think they would take it. In any case I would be surprised if Clark could win a Dem primary that would still likely be dominated by the Duluth area.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
Highly unlikely
MN-08 is estimated to be right at or just slightly below the ideal population. To add St Cloud (Clark's home and largest city in Stearns county) you would also need to add parts of Benton and Sherburne counties since St Cloud is spread between all three. It would take a very different map than the current one for Clark to end up in the 8th district.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

[ Parent ]
MN8 is just about right but MN6 & MN7
Over and under populated.  

MN7 could easily take in the rest of Beltrami plus two those other far NW counties in MN8. That would give it some room to ditch one small  county down south to MN1 (also short of population).  That would make MN7 more democratic, not impact MN1 plus MN8 would then be able to get the Eastern 1/2 of Stearns county.  That would push MN8 to the right a bit  but T. Clarke would be in the district.  


[ Parent ]
Clark is not such a great candidate that...
... it is worth a massive redrawing of the maps (El Tinklenberg would have been a better candidate in 2008 IMO). Besides she would be an underdog to get the nomination to any 1st tier candidate from the Iron range.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

[ Parent ]
You dont have to include Sherburne county
It actually works out just fine and that the district has a butcher knife and a blob jutting out from the district's butt.

[ Parent ]
That would be a massive redrawing of the map.
Jim Oberstar had never held political office before he was elected in the 70s. He was a CoS for his predecessor. One interesting name would be Carly Melin. She replaced Sertich in the house. She is all of 25 years old now. I doubt she pulls the trigger on a run, as she will be able to gain a lot of seniority in the Minnesota House. A lot of the other Iron Range politicians are dinosaurs, so they may not be interested in making a Congressional run.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


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I have trouble believing
she'll announce after less than one session in the MN State House. I mean frankly, it just doesn't look well when anyone runs for something and then turns right around and runs for something else; and what she ran for the first time wasn't exactly a competitive house district or a large or a politically strategic area of this Congressional district and she has no other strengths and lots of weaknesses, with youth, inexperience, and lack of firm connection with the district, (which even Oberstar would have had, as a CoS, a lot more actually, and the district was more reliably Democratic teen).

I think she could definitely have a bright future, and likely move up to the state senator after a few terms and become a real power player in the Iron Range, perhaps even a statewide figure in 16-20 years, but I don't see her as having any merit as a congressional candidate for MN-08 in 2012, at this early unproven point of her career.  


[ Parent ]
Nah, that's only when Democrats do it.
When Republicans do it, it means they're a "rising star".

[ Parent ]
I bet she's shitting herself though
that if only it had been two more years.  Hell, maybe Cravaack will win in 2012 and she'll beat him in 2014.  Maybe they can get someone to run as a place-holder for a term and let her run would be another good bet.  (More likely I think than Cravaack winning.)  

I know very little about her but I'd love to see a female represent the Iron Range and she'd be able to rack up a lot of seniority and be a real asset for my state.  At 25, she could sit in that seat for 60 years, easy.


[ Parent ]
She is younger than me
I can't imagine having these kind of decisions looming over my head. She is basically the only under-65 8th district legislator that hasn't said "no." Don Ness would be absolutely amazing, but he has no interest in leaving Duluth, ever.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


[ Parent ]
Clark could easily

reclaim her seat in the MN Senate.  I believe it is now held by King Banian, who won by something close to 8 votes.

But unless her home is swept into the 8th via redistricting, it would look too opportunistic for her to try and move just to get a shot at taking on Cravaack.  

I think a better option would be to have a charismatic, articulate DFLer with solid Range roots that can also make in-roads into the outer ring suburbs.  

Cough Dan Fanning Cough


[ Parent ]
Dan Fanning
I don't know much about the guy, honestly.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


[ Parent ]
Fanning

runs in the rarefied circles of the Northern MN DFL.  He's a subject of a "draft" campaign, but all that have met him have seen a gift for relationship-building and a natural, easy demeanor with politics.  

Here is a youtube clip of him speaking about the post-Iraq struggles of veterans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Note the quintessential Minnesotan accent; I will now end my Fanning-fest.  


[ Parent ]
Banian won the state house seat
that is half of the state senate seat.  And it is the much more Dem district, one that Obama won by nearly 20%.  St. Cloud State Univ. turn-out easily cost us that one state house seat, and probably factored hugely into the state senate.  We can win both back in 2012 and Clark should absolutely run for her state senate seat.  She just simply doesn't live in a good place for a Dem to win a Congressional seat.  (Well, without some gerrymandering.)  State senate and just wait for Klobuchar to become VP or POTUS herself.

[ Parent ]
And might I add
there really is no way for MN-8 to become too Republican for someone to not be able sit in that seat and coast (but not too much obviously!).  If the district keeps losing population and keeps getting closer to the metro, eventually, forcing a court drawn map will make them do a giant border to border northern district, which I would guess would be D+7 or so.  A court would look at communities of interest and start poo-pooing the current set-up over time.

[ Parent ]
PA Republicans
Huh. It's interesting that apparently they are looking to strengthen Critz in the process of weakening other Democrats. I wouldn't have expected that.

I reckon that
2 Pittsburgh area seats is their goal for Democrats. I also think Holden will get a safer seat in order to help strengthen PA-10 and PA-11 both of which are somewhat marginal for Republicans. And I really don't expect them to be able to do anything to Allyson Schwartz, particularly not without causing considerable problems for Gerlach and Meehan who already have tenuous holds on Democratic leaning districts as it is. Then the two central Philly area seats. Thus I expect that the utmost damage they could do, if they are really aggressive, is a 12-6 map, and that map would depend on their ability to hold a seat centered around Scranton and other Democratic leaning areas in NE PA, and their ability to hold an Allentown-Bethelem seat, as well as three nominally Democratic leaning seats in the Philly suburbs. So even their gerrymander has the potential to backfire on them and turn into an 11-7 (Democrats favor), map.

[ Parent ]
They shouldn't try to mess with Schwartz
The savvy GOP move would be to make Schwartz's district even safer -- let her take the Dem-heavy Lower Bucks parts of PA-08 from Fitzpatrick, and let him and/or Meehan and/or Gerlach poach parts of western MontCo to make their districts marginally safer.

[ Parent ]
As I said awhile back...
I think the best move for the Republicans in PA (speaking as a resident) is:

1.  Totally eliminate PA-12 and PA-4 as districts, giving Critz and Altmire nowhere to run.

2.  Move PA-4 to Dutch Country (new PA-19)

3.  Move PA-12 to Philly burbs, to form a new vote sink for Democrats.  

4.  Give Tim Holden the most Democratic seat possible.  Would include most of the Wyoming valley, and a good deal of Lehigh as well.  

In one sense, it doesn't seem to move the numbers much, as it eliminates one Democratic district (well, eliminates two, and adds a new open seat).  But with more Democratic seats in the East, and less in the West, they can make a 12-6 map which is pretty safe (outside of PA-8) for the next decade.  


[ Parent ]
I simply don't see how it's possible
to eliminate two seats from the Pittsburgh area. It's just not feasible. One, definitely, but to eliminate two of the four? I'm sorry, but you can't almost split Allegheny county into two districts and that's not including a wide berth of suburbs that go all the way out to Cambria. My view has been that a Cambria-Centre district will be made for Critz, which extends and takes in a heavily Democratic swatch of southeastern Allegheny and allows for the elimination of Altmire's district.  

[ Parent ]
Here's how I think it would work.

PA-3 would pull in a bit closer to Pittsburgh, given the new incumbent is from Butler.  

PA-18 would include the northern, suburban, Republican-leaning parts of Allegheny county, almost wrapping around PA-14

PA-11 would change orientations dramatically, becoming a district which runs from Altoona to Westmoreland County.  

And (this is the biggest stretch), PA-16 would take in a chunk of western PA.  Realistically, this isn't going to happen without a retirement.  But it should, as Joe Pitt's Chester County base is needed for younger incumbents in the Philly area who need to expand westward.  The seat moving elsewhere, or else just spanning the southern tier of the state, makes the most sense.  


[ Parent ]
Almost none of the predictions
in the article make sense. I assume some Republican source is just messing around and spreading FUD. Schwartz drawn together with Fattah? I mean, yeah, they could do something like that, but there would still need to be two Democratic districts in roughly the same place.  

[ Parent ]
I really don't see how that could be done
eliminating that district, without royally screwing Gerlach. Because then his district would have to extend into more heavily Democratic areas of south MontCo and shed the areas of Chester and Berks that he racks up big margins in; in other words it completely destroys what's been a winning formula for him: hold down Democratic margins in exurban, outer MontCo and romp in the Chester-Berks areas.

Republicans weren't even that aggressive back in 2002, and since then the Philly suburbs have moved significantly further away from them.


[ Parent ]
Unless Gerlach
Plans to challenge Casey.

[ Parent ]
Makes little sense anyway
PA-2 is going to have to stay majority-black and there's a decent argument that the same will happen to PA-1. So no real combination is possible.

If it's just a case of putting someone's house in the wrong district, they'll move, as they have totally different bases, so neither could win the other's district. And if you do want to do that, you should target Brady, as his home is right on Philadelphia's eastern border.


[ Parent ]
Brady's district is probably
protected from retrogression by the VRA (though it is not black majority). Still, the Republicans don't have any incentive to go after the Philly reps. Their voters have to go somewhere.  

[ Parent ]
Be interesting to see if their map becomes...
...closer to incumbent protection or actually strengthening districts.  I'd thinkt aht gerlach is the one they'd most like to shore up, since he is in a perennial swing district.  

I tend to think that not going after Critz or Holden is actually a wise move.  Holden especially defies odds be-annually so just let him be.  When he retires his area could be a swingy open seat get for the GOP.

Trying to strengthen seats in the burbs is hard in Pitt and especially Philly though.  These areas are somewhat swingy by definition so they don't permamnently help but help all of the time.  I still think Obama could could kill it in East PA in 2012 and sweep Murphy, Carney back into office and maybe even get Trivedi in as well....regardless of these districts likely  reconfigurations.  

As for Altmire, i think he might be toast though.


[ Parent ]
My thoughts on Rory Reid...
Are here. Since we shouldn't be debating issues, I'll just leave that there.

Otherwise, Rory's political future is pretty much dead, regardless of whether or not his campaign's money laundering scheme was legal. His reputation as "Mr. Clean" vanished on Friday, so at this point his reputation is down there with John Ensign's. He can pretty much kiss goodbye whatever chance there was of him winning the NV-04 primary.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


He never did seem to have anywhere
near his dad's competency. I mean frankly I just didn't see the campaigning ability or the politicking ability of his dad, and I doubt he had the same governing prowess either.  

[ Parent ]
Actually, Rory was very good at governing...
It was campaigning he was never good at! He's always had a good reputation as a policy wonk who always did his homework as Clark County Commission Chair.

That's another reason this surprised me. Why the hell did Rory do this? Did he really think no one would object? Again, regardless of the legality of this move, it destroys his reputation of practicing good ethics.

At this point, both Barbara Buckley and Dina Titus are closer to getting revenge in NV-04.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


[ Parent ]
Kaine
Political Wire suggests there may be some news this week and Mike Allen seems to think he is leaning toward running.

I just wish
Kaine would go ahead and decide already because as a Virginian and Perriello fan this is obnoxious.

Unrelated but is there a better known date for when SSP will be making the full jump to DK?

24, male, Democrat, VA-06 (currently in Italy), went to school in VA-05


[ Parent ]
I've been guilty of some impatience
Regarding candidate recruitment but the more I think about it I figure it is still very early and if he wants the time to make sure he reaches the correct decision then fair enough. It isn't like Perriello is hurt by waiting a couple of weeks. Indeed, he is on record as saying he hopes Kaine runs anyway.

[ Parent ]
Re your question
Unrelated but is there a better known date for when SSP will be making the full jump to DK?

Sorry, not as yet. When we're ready to move over, we'll announce it bright flashing lights, I promise! In the meantime, expect some posts this week with more details about the transition.


[ Parent ]
Thanks
For the quick response.

24, male, Democrat, VA-06 (currently in Italy), went to school in VA-05

[ Parent ]
Make sure to give us notice
I know I should save my draft diaries right now, but, well.....

[ Parent ]
I'm not particularly anxious.
Maybe it's just because I'm not Patty Murray, but I don't think it's absolutely necessary this is decided right away. Kaine is the clear leader for the nomination if he wants it. If he doesn't, Perriello is probably a strong second, unless there's some other Democrat I am forgetting. It'd be one thing if we were in November and Kaine was still waffling, but even then, the biggest knock against him is that he's preventing some other Democrat from building up his statewide recognition and fund raising.  


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
A delay isn't necessarily bad...
From a PR standpoint, you WANT your new product announcement to be eagerly anticipated. Just ask Apple. :)

[ Parent ]
More than that, the tea leaves are saying...
...Kaine is at least 50-50 to get in, and if he doesn't, Perriello will run.

So we'll have our candidate soon either way.

I think either one clears the field, Some Dudes aside.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
How does the VA Dem establishment feel about Perriello?


[ Parent ]
I'm sure mixed bag, but overall pretty good because...
...I suspect a plurality of state Dems would regard Perriello as 2nd-strongest behind Kaine.

ConservaDems in tougher parts of the state always will want someone who plays competitively in their necks of the woods, and I think quite a few of them have a hard time accepting Tom as such a candidate despite his upset win in '08 and clear and dramatic overperformance in '10.  Kaine is the guy everyone accepts as the best choice simply because he's won statewide twice, including for Governor which is arguably tougher than a Senate race.

That said, I think there's recognition that Perriello can raise a lot of money, his field campaign is great, he's a great personal campaigner, and Obama coattails will help a lot overall even if not in places like Boucher's district.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
HI-Sen
I'll file this under "Hope Springs Eternal", from NRO Campaign Spot:

A Campaign Spot reader in Hawaii who is tuned in to local political circles checks in on Sen. Akaka's retirement: "Lots going on in the state right now that is going to make voters yearn for the days of Lingle's governorship.No real obvious challenger to her on GOP side - Charles Djou will probably opt to not challenge her, but instead wait to take on Governor Abercrombie, or maybe take a shot at Inouye's seat when he retires. It will likely be a bloodbath in the primary on the Democrat side - Inouye doesn't have the political machine he once did to clear the decks for an anointed Democrat to run for the seat.  Several factions of the Democrat establishment are really 'feeling their oats' with their successes over the last two or three election cycles on both the state and federal level.  There will also be a generational aspect to the primary on the Democrat side."


"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


Wow, that's pretty... amusing to say the least
I mean really, National Review might as well say "It's also entirely possible that the Democratic nominee turns out to be a squirrel molester!"

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Hey!
My father was a squirrel molester and I don't appreciate you making jokes about a very real and serious illness.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


[ Parent ]
Heck, my dog
is a better squirrel molester than your politician.

[ Parent ]
Because the at-times bitter primary
Between Neil Abercrombie and Mufi Hanneman gave us Gov. Duke Aiona....

[ Parent ]
Hey now, that race was really close
Abercrombie wasn't even able to beat Aiona by 20 points, it's a sign that Democrats are dooooomed®)

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
First off,
what's going on in the state that makes people long for Lingle's governorship?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Eh, Neil Abercrombie is the reincarnation of Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler, AND Fidel Castro
Oh and he's forging a birth-certificate for Obama. ;)

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Even the NRO reader admits it's NOT happening yet......
The reader said "going to" long for Lingle.  So admitting no longing, just projecting it's coming!

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
NRO Campaign Spot tends to be overly optimistic about Republican chances sometimes


24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

[ Parent ]
You can delete the word "sometimes". (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Well, in fairness
Geraghty has been pessimistic about some Republicans, particularly when there's been a tea party candidate involved. He never was optimistic about Christe O'Donnell last year, for example.

But yeah, in general, he spins for the Repubs.  


[ Parent ]
I think it's safe to say anyone who was optimistic about O'Donnell...
...knows as much about elections as I know about pro beach volleyball.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Very safe to say!
But on the far right, especially on RedState, you could find some who thought O'Donnell had momentum after she upset Castle.

At least NRO didn't drink the kool-aid on that one.  


[ Parent ]
Yeah
Still waiting for that Santorum surge on Casey. 6 years and counting...

[ Parent ]
He's trying to bring
his magic to the country by running for president, remember?

I'm not sure there's a worse ticket than something like Santorum and Bachmann, no matter what the order. Can you think of one? Even Steele, for all of his stupidity, isn't as unlikeable and scary as those two, and I suspect Palin may have some hidden support from lower-class, relatively uneducated whites that isn't being properly captured by the polls. And while someone like Gingrich may be blown out of the water, he could still break into the low 40s. It wouldn't surprise me if Bachmann and Santorum managed to lose every single state and make McGovern's national percentage look enviable.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Palin/Bolton
Santorum actually got elected twice in a swing state.

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I disagree.
Like I said before, I think Palin's support is understated. I still think she'd be destroyed in every which way, but she can do nothing else except play the victim card and succeed.

Bolton's a novice, so perhaps he has some skeletons in his closet, but besides that, he doesn't appear to be as nutty as the others. Plus, foreign policy is kind of dense for a lot of people, so he can say some crazy shit and have it go over their heads.


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Bolton on a presidential ticket would be a joy
Especially watching the expressions on the faces of Republican spinners when they learn that his moustache has been roaming free at night and feeding on house-pets, and they have to explain it away.

Well, maybe it wouldn't get quite that insane, but it'd be a close-run thing.


[ Parent ]
Not sure Bolton's even interested in the VP slot
My hunch is he's merely angling for Secretary of State. FWIW, I could see Bolton wind up not running. There hasn't been much buzz behind his potential candidacy at all lately.

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[ Parent ]
Dick Cheney/Virginia Foxx
The sort of ticket that equal parts excites and inspires today's youth.

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[ Parent ]
What would be their slogan?
"Death warmed up!"

[ Parent ]
Foxx, perhaps,
but Cheney can look the part of a non-insane person. He might have awful ideas and be a bit of a prick, but he's not certifiable.

Foxx is actually a good response. She seems like an older, more hateful and more Southern version of Bachmann.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Is Orrin Hatch complete screwed?
I just came across this tweet:

Sen. Mike Lee won't endorse home-state colleague Hatch, but he WILL endorse in TX SEN race

http://twitter.com/#!/FixRache...

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


If it's a convention, then yeah, I think so. I suppose it's possible if...
...he holds a press conference demanding Obama admit he was born in Kenya, the teabaggers will back off, but somehow I don't see that happening.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Given how craven Hatch has been lately,
I wouldn't put it past him!

[ Parent ]
Sheila Kuehl is the blue standard
She is unbelievably respected. Plus -- and this is no small thing -- her priority is to win. Unlike many supposedly good "gets," she doesn't tell the campaign what she's going to do. She asks how she can be of assistance.  

I'm a fan, too
I'd wager that Sheila Kuehl is one of the very, very few California politicians who could actually swing some votes with her endorsement. Just personally, she's definitely influenced my vote in the past.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

[ Parent ]
NY-26: Mike Long, Conservative Party chair, backs Corwin
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...

This leaves David Bellavia stuck having to pursue the fringe Taxpayers line, which Bruce Blakeman ran on in the U.S. Senate race and, if I'm nos mistaken, garnered less than half a percent on. I think this has gone from Likely R to Safe R, though it's always mostly been the latter.

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It actually sounds like Bellavia might not run now


[ Parent ]
Safe?
It isn't that Republican a district. Likely is more like it.

[ Parent ]
Ensign making an announcement at noon PST
Just tweeted on the Fix. Speculation is he might be dropping out.  

Resignation coming too?
If you aren't going to run for re-election, why stick around and have the ethics committee humiliate you over and over?

Paging Senator Heller...(or does Sandoval go out of the box and select LG Krolicki?)

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


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Retirement Confirmed
Bad news for Blue Team, but Berkeley vs Heller was always the most likely outcome, just coming 16 months sooner.

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


[ Parent ]
Yeah
A nasty primary would have been nice. Oh well, Heller isn't a shoe-in, especially if Obama can take the state by double digits again.

[ Parent ]
My hunch is a bunch of Independents vote an Obama/Heller ticket
I'm also not quite Obama really carries Nevada by double-digits again, unless it's against a Huckabee-style social conservative. I think Romney and Daniels are both wholly capable of 45%, at least.  

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[ Parent ]
This, btw, is exactly why
I argue with people who tell me "the people want X" If you're voting Obama/Heller, you don't know what the f*ck you want, sorry.


[ Parent ]
In an Obama reelection year, I like our chances just fine......
Still no worse than 50-50.  Obama won by 12 last time, and could win by more than that next year given the improving  economy and the sad sack of GOP alternatives.  That's a lot of ticket-splitting that Heller will need...not impossible at all, as last year showed (8-point swing between Harry and Rory), but not something you want to be in a position to have to accomplish.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
If not for Heller
I think we'd win an open seat with Berkeley or Cortez Masto, but Heller is a strong GOP candidate.

Then again, he's from Carson City, and Washoe County/Carson City candidates have had trouble winning statewide recently.  


[ Parent ]
Heller will start out favorite
No doubt. But so did Robin Carnahan. He isn't unbeatable.

[ Parent ]
Heller is tough BECAUSE he HAS won statewide MULTIPLE times......
Heller was the elected Secretary of State, succeeded in 2006 by current S.O.S. and Democrat Ross Miller, for several terms.  So Heller's name is familiar on everyone's ballot.

I think if he were just a 2-term House member who, say, was a state legislator before that, he'd have a lot less stature.

I don't have any illusions about how tough this will be.  If this were a midterm, or we otherwise didn't have someone like Obama combined with such a strong and dominating partisan organizational advantage in the state to drive turnout, then Heller would be a clear favorite.  I'm banking on Obama winning the state, driving high turnout, and the Republicans possibly having a weak nominee all to combine to even the odds.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Secretary of State is much different from Senate
Statewide downballot races are very much a straight ticket affair, I'd be very surprised if an average Nevadan remembers that Heller was SoS.

23, liberal democrat, SSP Gay Caucus Majority Whip, IN-02 (home), IN-03 (birth), SC-03 (early childhood), IN-09 (college);   DKos: HoosierD42

[ Parent ]
Jensen tease
"Maine GOP voters: 34% think Snowe should be indy, 33% Democrat, 27% Republican"

Ouch.  


How can this woman not lose a primary?
What have I forgotten about the rules of Maine's primary/caucus system that is leading people to think Snowe still has a chance? And why aren't more Democrats making noise about a run? Are people just that shocked to think of power of the state party going down to someone that may not have even been elected before?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
At what point does she just retire?


[ Parent ]
My intuition says she retires
Especially if she gets any sort of halfway legitimate primary challenger and the numbers stay like this. It's a much more dignified way to end your political career than to lose to a crazy person a la Mike Castle.

Plus, it might not mean anything, but her website is still a splash page... doesn't seem like somebody gearing up for a vicious primary to me.

20, GOP, NH-02


[ Parent ]
Doesn't she have very painful arthritic problems?


[ Parent ]
I've heard that, too
but only on this site. I figure it might be an echo chamber effect, so I didn't mention it. But if it is true, all the more reason for her to retire.

Her only two real options seem to be a) retire or b) hire all of Sen. Murkowski's campaign staff...

20, GOP, NH-02


[ Parent ]
The Murkowski route or crose the aisle
Though if her physical health isn't up to a hard campaign then she may just call it a day. Paging Mike Michaud.

[ Parent ]
I don't see Snowe crossing the aisle...
In contrast to Arlen "my change in party will enable me to be re-elected" Specter, Snowe actually has... well, principles. And as I recall, she expressed profound disappointment with Specter's decision at the time.

And who's to say Pingree or Michaud wouldn't just challenge her in a primary were she to switch? Certainly, Snowe has a lot of goodwill among Democrats -- but so did Specter.


20, GOP, NH-02


[ Parent ]
Sure
Don't see it either. But then I never expected Specter to jump.

[ Parent ]
Snowe
defended Specter in a newspaper piece soon after he switched parties, and bemoaned the mood in the party that forced him to switch in the first place.

Where does your recollection come from?

I don't think she'll switch, but I'm not sure I'd say she has "principles."

The woman said she was "answering the call of history" when she voted to move the health care reform bill out of the Finance Committee - and now she's signed on to a letter recommending the abolition of the individual mandate, which was a feature of the very bill she voted to advance.

She's not principled. Perhaps not as much of a huckster as Orrin Hatch, but pretty darn close.


[ Parent ]
What about Pingree?


19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Michaud is far stronger


[ Parent ]
We don't necessarily need the strongest candidate.
If Pingree wins an open-seat race by 8 and Michaud by 15 then I'll take Pingree any day- she's way to Michaud's left.


18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)

[ Parent ]
Well, 90% of it is stylistic
Pingree is one of those affluent, upper class Portland, artsy liberals, if a bunch of adjectives can give a sense of it. It's a culture difference that limits her ability to play well among moderate to Democratic leaning voters outside of the Portland sphere of the state.

On abortion she's definitely to Michaud's left, but he hasn't grandstanded on the matter, not during the healthcare debate, nor in his general policy position, (aside from the partial birth abortion ban), and there are a lot of Catholics in northern Maine that are more socially conservative, blue collar sorts of voters that he would really do well with. Politically, I think Michaud is the way to go and getting him to run would really lit further pressure under Snowe and possible send her into retirement.  


[ Parent ]
Wouldn't a tea-party challenge be more of a threat than Michaud
I think Michaud, tea party (R) and independent Snowe race allows Snowe to win through a hodge-podge coalition I couldn't even begin to explain....

[ Parent ]
Triangulation
Politics not policy. It would perhaps enocurage her to retire with challengers on both flanks.

[ Parent ]
Nailed it.


20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Damn right!
And winning ME-Sen could certainly help us down the road to keeping the Senate.

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I'm sorry, but...
Running Rep. Pingree is tantamount to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Rep. Michaud is a much better fit statewide. Pingree's geographic profile and occasional dumb behavior are going to immediately draw a bevy of comparisons to Libby Mitchell.

I was impressed with how strongly Michaud performed last year. Despite occupying a district that, on paper, looked like a potential Republican takeover, he never let his challenger into the race at all.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
I'm not so sure Pingree
would cause the loss of an open Maine Senate seat.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
I'm a lot less sure of her statewide potential...
Than I am of Rep. Michaud's.

When Democrats are playing this much defense, I think they need to go with safe bets where they can. Michaud is a much safer bet than his Portland-area counterpart.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
Is there polling?
I would rather a woman replace a woman were we can. If the polling shows she can win I would prefer her. If it shows her weak then Michaud.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Her
seat would be way easier to defend than Michaud's. I know the Senate is more important but lets face it, if Snowe is the nominee we don't have a chance, if she is not then it is pretty much safe dem.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Pingree got 57% in a D+8, Michaud 55% in a D+3.
That's a difference of 3%. That won't make a difference between losing and winning either against Snowe (where both will lose) or in an open race (where both will win).

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)

[ Parent ]
She received 55% of
the vote in 2008.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
On abortion, yes
But he's very good on economic issues. And that's the area Senate Democrats struggle on right now - they're not about to ban abortion, but they're not likely to push a jobs plan either.

[ Parent ]
Not running
Chellie Pingree's already ruled herself out. Her daughter, Cain, Scarcelli and Michaud are speculated.

[ Parent ]
Hannah Pingree sounds
like an interesting possible candidate. The possibility of having someone young in the Senate on the Democratic side is a nice change.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Hannah Pingree
represented a district that included my family's compound on Mount Desert Island. People loved her there. She didn't live on the island, but spent a lot of time there holding events.  

[ Parent ]
It'd be very interesting to have
candidates like Tom Perriello (36) in Virginia, Sonia Chang-Diaz (32) in Massachusetts, and Jasper Schneider (31) in North Dakota.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Wouldn't it!
It seems for the past decade all of the young people elected to Congress have been from the Republican party.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Indeed
What's her geographic profile?

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
I'm guessing near or around North Haven.
DNick said she represented Mount Desert Island.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
She also lives in ME-02
Something to keep in mind.

She has a baby due any day now, apparently, which might be why we haven't heard from her lately. And a House run, in case Rep. Michaud vacates, may be more her speed than a Senate run if she's got a one-year-old by next year.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
According to wikipedia
both the mother and daughter live in North Haven. Is North Haven in ME-2?  

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Yes it is.


20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
True
but she could still change her mind.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
That's exactly why she is weaker
And she will not win by 8, She lost by 16 once and nothing changed funamentally since then. Pingree is so far left, that she can easily lose (if Republicans will rin non-Bachmann-type candidate). Michaud is far better and safe bet.

[ Parent ]
She lost against a very popular sitting Senator.
Since then she has been elected to Congress. Sen. Snowe will most likely not be in the Senate come 2013. Before I right "far left" Rep. Pingree I want to see a poll against all possible and generic Republican candidates. The fact is she would probably win baring an Olympia Snowe primary win.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
I know all that
and really hope that Sen. Snowe will win primary (contrary to you i think that that's quite possible). I am npt inclined to overestimate tea-baggers "strengh" as well

[ Parent ]
Every poll released about this Senate seat in the past few years
has shown Snowe extremely damaged and not capable of surviving a primary. The problem as of now is there is not a challenger (if I'm aware). She will face one though. The Republican base doesn't want her in their party. Not just the Tea Party big wigs.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
I know that too
LePage support will bring part of the base grudgingly back. Lack of serious tea-bagger candidate (and i am absolutely not sure there will be one, who is really serious) may be enough. If not - she has excellent chance to "play Murkowski". In Maine, which loves Independents, it's way easier then in Alaska. And in such case (especially with ultraliberal Pingree as Democratic nominee) she will get a ot of Democratic support and win. Democrats already tried an ultraliberal as their candidate for Governor in 2010. She not only got horrible percentage herself, but, essentially, gave governorship to LePage.

[ Parent ]
since when do tea-partiers listen to their "party" elders?
Thought that was the whole reason there was a tea party.

[ Parent ]
When party-elders come from their ranks
(as is the case in LePage situation) - they still do. At least - to some extent.

[ Parent ]
Wow, Pingree's daughter is my age
And has already been term-limited out of the Maine State legislature...I need to lead a more productive life.

[ Parent ]
...after serving as Speaker of the House...
She's actually only termed out of the House. She could still do 8 more years in the Senate. And yes, people like her make me feel like a waste of space.

32, M, MI-6, Iconoclastic Leftist

[ Parent ]
If only you had thought to have been born to a politician!


[ Parent ]
Especially if you fit in their jeans


[ Parent ]
KS Redistricting
I'm not so sure that Douglas County will end up split again. Because if you split it again (and much of the population has already been moved to KS-02), that means KS-03 is still way overpopulated and thus, you have to split one of the remaining two counties. That's either Wyandotte County, an urban minority-majority county or Johnson County, the Wonderbread suburban paradise that's now the state's biggest county and increasingly swingy.

If Republicans split both Douglas & Wyandotte, they could trigger a VRA challenge. Also, that's a little friggin' obvious for a gerrymander considering everyone knows those are, by a superhuge longshot, the two bluest counties in the state. The other option is splitting Johnson County, which is intriguing but fraught with potential pitfalls. One problem with splitting JoCo is that the most Democratic parts are in the northeast part of it, wedged right up against Wyandotte. Northeast JoCo + Wyandotte = probably too blue for comfort no matter what else you attach to it, even most of the nearby rural counties [except exurban Miami] are particularly red, especially compared to the rest of state's rural counties.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


Gah
What I meant for that last sentence was...
None of the nearby rural counties [except exurban Miami] are particularly red, especially compared to the rest of state's rural counties (like the ones in the far west of the state).

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

[ Parent ]
I still think Wyandotte County is going in KS-01
Though earlier comments about putting parts of Omaha in NE-03 might apply here too.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
No way WYCo becomes KS-01
I see 0% chance Wyandotte County becomes part of KS-01. There is no sane way to justify splitting Johnson and Wyandotte County when they can both be in the same district without going over on population. The county line is virtually indistinguishable. Not to mention you'd be moving urban WyCo into completely rural KS-01. I think they'll move Douglas County entirely into KS-02, and add northern Miami County (Louisberg) to KS-03, maintaining an R-Leaning KS-03.

As for KS-02 in that scenario, I think they could move Potawattomie County (College Town of Manhattan) from KS-02 to KS-01 to shore up population while still keeping it Safe R and leaving KS-02 Likely R.


[ Parent ]
Trouble for Scott Brown?
I'll let our friends from Massachusetts tell me whether this can hurt him at all. My gut says that while this isn't a death warrant, it can bring him down a lot, particularly if Koch is associated with some anti-something activity that isn't going to sit well with the state.

http://politicalwire.com/archi...

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


Hello ad campaign.
They need to use this against him big-time as the smoking gun that he's a puppet of the super-rich.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Nah
Dude is safe. How to you compete with the truck? Presidential year? What presidential year? And forget about Nevada too. Dean "Abraham Lincoln" Heller is just as unbeatable.

[ Parent ]
Okay regardless
Regardless of how the whole Koch thing plays out, I DEMAND that the Democratic nominee mention loudly, and often, that the only thing Brown is using that truck for is to haul around his daughter's ponies.

Bottom line: Lawyers don't drive trucks because they need to, they drive them because they are assholes.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
I demand the Democratic nominee
Actually bothers to run a campaign. That would be a start.

[ Parent ]
That's a campaign slogan right there
 

[ Parent ]
No kidding


Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

[ Parent ]
As a very recent ex-lawyer
I'm gonna agree wholeheartedly with this statement:

Lawyers don't drive trucks because they need to, they drive them because they are assholes.


[ Parent ]
Um
2012 Is a presidential year.Brown has to run In state Obama
will easily win.Nevada Is a likely Obama state again Inless
Romney IS the nominee then It becomes a true battleground state due to momans.2010 should show us not to count chickens early.2012 will be better year for Democrats.
Obama and Dems have what Bohener has done as speaker to
run against.

[ Parent ]
Exactly
Your sarcasm meter is malfunctioning.

[ Parent ]
The campaign should really be against the Koch's
They seemingly have their hands in lots of potentially unpopular things these days and seem more willing to show themselves more publicly (great grammar there).

I think they have a couple of disgrutled brothers who didn't liek how they sold out of the family business (if extra-personal dirt is need).

Once the Koch brothers become Jack Abramoff, then we link GOP candidates to them and let the Dem candidates attack...


[ Parent ]
There isn't any doubt this will hurt Brown
This is why I still predict he's going down.  

[ Parent ]
And I'm sure there's more where that came from...
Not just the Koch's but associations with other very shady characters.

[ Parent ]
Associations with shady characters
A conservative voting record on a par with senators from Tennessee and Alabama. When he faces an actual campaign those sky high approvals won't last long.

[ Parent ]
Often
if not always, things we expect to hurt Republicans do not. I'm not optimistic. I do think it's possible to beat Brown, but only if Obama is winning 65% in Massachusetts and Republicans don't even bother to show up.

And even then, we're talking narrow loss.  


[ Parent ]
Speaking of Obama's performance here, I do have to wonder what Romney can muster in MA...
In the past four presidential cycles, Massachusetts has been curiously consistent in D performance - 62% for Obama, Kerry and Clinton '96, and 60% for Gore. When PPP polled Massachusetts last December, they found Obama up nine, 52-43, over Romney, with Romney at a lukewarm 40/51 favorability. My hunch is the results would be nearly that close, but I do think Romney could be the first Republican since Bush '41 to break 40% here. I think that's wholly plausible, but my guess is he's got a ceiling around 43%, max. I think you'll find Romney overperforming McCain by about 5 in all of these dark-blue states, which, of course, amounts to nothing.  

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[ Parent ]
Romney would make a decent nominee
In terms of saving down ballot seats for the GOP. Like Dole in 1996.

[ Parent ]
A narrow loss?
I'll admit that's possible, but it requires him winning Independents by more thant 20 points, minimum. If the Democratic candidate gets at least 40 percent of Independents and 85 percent of the Democratic vote, he or she will likely, but barely. If the Demcratic candidate gets 50 percent or more of the Independent vote, it's pretty much impossible for Brown to win.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
A Democrat garnering 50% of Indies in MA indicates at least 55% overall
And, that's something I can't just fathom for a Dem vs. Brown, esp. with that recent PPP poll which found Brown at 60/25 approval among Indies. By my count, Brown indeed needs a 20 point win among Indies to triumph, and PPP found him up about 30 against all of the Dems. I'm not saying he'll necessarily prevail by that much, but I don't necessarily see massive erosion taking place, either. I think Democrats will engage in a competitive and costly primary, not unlike the '02 gubernatorial primary, and wind up with a weak, wounded nominee, not unlike Shannon O'Brien. Obama wins by 20, Brown by 5.

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[ Parent ]
What makes you think
there will be a costly primary? I think everyone is aware how difficult this might be. They will probably insure a field that is at least friendly if not clear.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Obama winning
by that much means that he scores a huge win with Independents. It's entirely possible that Brown does just as well if not better than Obama with Independents, but I am not sure how likely it is.

But even then, will it be enough? I think a lot of people are losing perspective on how small a climb the Democrat has from Coakley's total before he's right on the edge of winning. I remember reading that she got about 32 to 34 percent of Independents against Brown during the special election. If that's the base of the Democrat, a minimally competent Democratic candidate in 2012 should be able to get up to 40 percent. Since it's a presidential year, I don't see Brown doing any better than 15 percent of Democrats, and even that may be pushing it.


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Abramoff
Abramoff is a convicted felon. The Koch brothers are just rich guys who give a lot of money to Republicans. If you're running a campaign to appeal to marginal voters (i.e. anyone who didn't vote for Coakley), you want to attack Brown on specific issues where he's out of the Massachusetts mainstream, not play up his connections to two rich guys they don't know or care much about.    

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
To some extent
Ad makers have to be creative. I could see something connecting him to shadowy conservative national interest for instance. Again, part of a narrative his opponent must build to paint him, as you say, out of the mainstream of his state. But I agree his record is more important. And it is comparable to Republicans from Alabama and Tennessee not Maine.

[ Parent ]
I agree.
It's completely fair, too. If he feels that the agenda that Koch brothers have is the best for the country, he shouldn't be embarrassed to say so.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Eh...if he loses, it's certainly not because of this
Frankly, I think it'd be rather lame for any Democrat to run an ad using this thing. I suspect the netroots care more about this than most of the actual electorate. The race is a toss-up. End of story.

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[ Parent ]
Not a dealbreaker granted
But part of a narrative certainly.

[ Parent ]
A narrative of...?
Scott Brown being a demented Tea Partier? Doubtful. Of pandering to wealthy donors? Okay, but so does everyone else. I really don't think this has any impact beyond the blogosphere and if any Democrat uses this in a TV ad, they deserve to lose.

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[ Parent ]
Being a tool of conservative national interests
The last thing he needs is to be seen as anything but an independent voice for Massachusetts.

[ Parent ]
20 month before elections?
There is not small chance that Koch's brothers will be a "yesterday news" by then..

[ Parent ]
Considering the fact that
our country is still so economically focused, I would think so. If they continue to put their hands on the levers. First Walker now Brown.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
I can't compare their ties to Walker with this Brown's news.
The first are of magnitude or two closer and much more important. This one - rather small story in big campaign..

[ Parent ]
I disagree
He sounds so pathetic in that clip. If a clip of Sen. Cardin or Rep. Hoyer surfaced in which they sucked up like that to George Soros or Andy Stern and pleaded for more money, like a whiny teenager trying to get his dad to lend him the car so he can take a girl to the movies, I would be pissed and I would think less of them - and they didn't get elected by promising to be independent and accountable to the public.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Depends how well the Koch brothers become known
Right now no one knows them, but if they get demonized over the next couple of years this could become an issue. Probably only works as a line of attack if his opponent is a self-funder, because otherwise they're likely to have similar contributions from George Soros or another big-money Democratic donor equivalent to Koch on the GOP side.

It looks like that event was at MIT, which is better for Brown than if it was in Washington.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
Bachmann
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_...

Think she is moving to an earnest run?

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


hmm
This may be more evidence that Palin isn't running. I suspect that Bachmann would withdraw if Palin got in.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
Bachmann wouldn't be making noise about a run
if Palin were actually going to, is my opinion.  And Palin was never going to run in the first place; you can't quite half-way through your term as governor for no good reason and actually think you are a viable Presidential candidate.

Bachmann will run and be the tea party favorite.  She will fundraise like a mofo and very well could become the nominee.


[ Parent ]
To think she would be the first
woman Presidential nominee for the top two parties and not Hillary Clinton is disgusting. Same goes for Palin.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
We will have elected a black as President
and the first woman to become a major party nominee will be a total joke of a candidate, breaking the barrier of women needing to be all sorts of superior to be deemed "tough enough".  America has/will truly have come a long way.

[ Parent ]
It could really set
Hillary Clinton up nicely in 2016.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
ooooo!!!!!!
I'm going to remember to tell my old professor who I'm getting my Girl Scouts cookies from tomorrow this.  I absolutely agree.  I salivate now at the prospect of Bachmann!  The country would be so embarrassed after watching that hot mess debate President Barack Obama and history would not look kindly on having Bachmann get creamed and then we go two decades without another woman nominee.

[ Parent ]
one way to fix that
Vote for Romney in the primary!

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
Even more of a reason Sarah Palin isn't running
She just called Kathy Griffin a "50-year old bully" and a "has-been".  She came off Presidential for awhile there, but like all overly exposed celebrities, shit hits the fan.  The Spice Girls, Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan.  Palin's fall will just be much more elegant and planned, hopefully no cocaine!

I actually realized the other day that when asked if she's running, she usually says, if nobody else good enough will, we'll look at it.  Perfect line to set herself up to go, I like this person, let's unite the party, I'll pass my torch and get the fuck out of here with my millions.


[ Parent ]
She actually just did BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

From the words, it sounds to me like she --wants-- to run.


[ Parent ]
She might be, but her potential candidacy kinda reeks of Pat Schroeder '88
That is, someone who's deemed an extremist of their party (not that Schroeder was some mad commie, but she was certainly painted as a left-winger), with little evidence of fundraising bonafides and only in the race to fill a perceived female void. Even if Bachmann vacuumed-up all of the Palin vote, it's not as if Palin's polling very well to begin with. Plus, Bachmann will be perceived as much a religious right fringe candidate as the likes of Santorum. She'd need him, Huckabee and Gingrich not to run to even stand a remote chance in Iowa.

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[ Parent ]
Brennan Center for justice Media Guide to Redistricting
http://www.brennancenter.org/c...

Very good redistricting resource.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


NM-Sen: Tom Jensen likes Wilson's chances in the primary
And not in the general
Full disclosure.

[ Parent ]
MN-8, here's an interesting name
State rep. Rynak Winkler, who represents Golden Valley which is next door to Minneapolis.  He's apparently from Bemidji and has considered a bit resigning and moving back to run against Cravaack.  Seems kind of silly but, well, Tom McClintock.  Erhrm, Rep. Tom McClintock.

http://www.mnprogressiveprojec...


Winkler

would be an excellent pick, but I don't like the idea of him leaving his current post in the MN House to make a go of it.  We are very close to having a majority in the legislature with '12 coming up, and all 201 seats are up, so we'd have to defend his seat along with going on offense for the other seats we'll need to grab back for the majority.  

But Andrew, you seem to know a good deal about the Metro area; is Golden Valley a swing district?  Blue/Purple/Red?  Could we hold that district without an incumbent?  


[ Parent ]
OR-01: A Wu apology tour
He's giving interviews to everyone but the two papers that have exposed his problems (Oregonian, Willamette Week). Supposedly, his wife's alcoholism has been part of the problem, one thing Wu (to his credit?) is refusing to talk about.

This is the bit from Wu's interview / meeting in Astoria, in the NW part of the district.

http://www.dailyastorian.com/n...

Apparently, he's trying to demonstrate that he's now in command of his faculties -- speaking prepared remarks without notes; apparently he also took questions for an hour.

Then Wu went into his prepared remarks. Speaking without notes, and occasionally chugging from a plastic bottle of Pepsi, the Congressman said the last few weeks had been turbulent, with events in the Middle East and with the Congressional budget battles.

Read elsewhere that he was doing the same at a Washington Co D club (in the heart of the district) today.


Obama
picking Locke as Ambassador to China. Does he make a political appointee as SoC. Olympia Snowe? Bob Corker?  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

Link.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Probably not
If you'll recall, Obama already tried that with Judd Gregg for Commerce, before running into difficulties and going with Locke.

Just googled the shortlists from 2009, apparantly Snowe was rumoured, though. Obama finance chair/businesswoman Penny Pritzker and Sebelius (unlikely, with HHS so important right now) were on there too, along with several well-known business CEO candidates. Goolsbee and Rendell also mentioned.


[ Parent ]
Rendell
is the obvious and smart choice. While I like the idea of Snowe as it helps our odds of holding the Senate it is also probably bad politics and would give LePage a Senate appointment. Not saying his appointment would win but I just hate the idea of him appointing someone.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I doubt anybody would care
If anything it would help his bipartisan credentials. If Snowe is looking for a way out then why not?

[ Parent ]
Probably
wouldn't be a huge deal. Though it could be spun as Obama purposely trying to play politics by appointing the only person who could keep a Senate seat for the R's. Though no one made any gruff with NY-23. But yes I think it would likely be a win-win. If she is interested Obama should try his best to get her.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
The other point you made
About LePage making a pick. I'd be confident Michaud would run and beat anybody.

[ Parent ]
I'm
not really scared about a LePage pick winning. Not saying they couldn't, but it would be uphill to the max. I just don't like the idea of giving LePage the chance to make an appointment. I really don't like him. But that is no reason to get rid of this good opportunity.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Rendell recently joined MSNBC as a political contributor
I doubt he'd be interested in changing jobs again so quickly.

[ Parent ]
Gregg didn't work
But he got Huntsman and McHugh.

[ Parent ]
Rep. Alcee Hastings accused of sexual harrassment by former aide
If true, I wouldn't be shocked.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/n...


Rep. Hastings is my least favorite Democrat in Congress...
Hands down. And I have my share of problems with quite a few of them (won't miss Rep. Harman, certainly).

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Hastings is a fool
whose place must be not in House, but behind bars. There is a chance ge finally gets it.

[ Parent ]
Offered without comment, because...
...Grampa Simpson, call him "Alan," speaks for himself:

http://www.politico.com/politi...

OK, I'll just copy-and-paste the key graf (emphasis mine):

"This is a fakery," [former Republican Senator Alan] Simpson said on Fox News [in scolding elderly Americans].  "If they care at all about their children or grandchildren, and sometimes I doubt that - I think, you know, grandchildren now don't write a thank-you for the Christmas presents, they're walking on their pants with the cap on backwards listening to the enema man and Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dogg, and they don't like them!"


43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

Old man yells at cloud


Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

[ Parent ]
Snoopy...Snoopy...Poop...Dogg?
jaw drops
speechless.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
I thought "enema man" was better! (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
I don't get who that's supposed to be a reference to
Eminem?

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Yes, Eminem. (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
oh I see.
I like how both of his rapper names are connected to poop. nice to know what's on his mind

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Yes, Virginia, Iowa Republicans are racist......
Per Politico's Jonathan Martin tweet (sorry no link), at the Iowa "Faith & Freedom" wingnut event in Waukee, very first speaker bemoans America "becoming multi-cultural haven for every weird and kinky lifestyle."

Racist/xenophobe/religious bigot Steve King speaks, too, but quiet backbench establishmentarian Tom Latham isn't there.  That tells you something about who calls the shots in the Iowa GOP, and it ain't the Latham crowd.

This is what Governor Branstad, who is there, calls "the first significant event of the caucus season."  Branstad himself is an establishmentarian a la Latham, but these poeple are a distinct minority in their own state party and must kiss ass.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


Are you suggesting that Steve King is a racist?
Next you'll be telling me that Peter King is a xenophobic asshole!

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Or that Michele Bachmann is batshit crazy.


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[ Parent ]
Sir, that is just a bridge too far
Why if we were in the age when it was still acceptable to challenge people to duels!!! :P

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
LOL, oh, and I realize I forgot to mention significance of Latham absence......
The venue for this event, Waukee, in Dallas County, is in his district.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
You mean 2004?
http://www.spike.com/video-cli...

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Glad someone caught the reference n/t


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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
I accept your challenge but only if the weapon is lightsabers.


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[ Parent ]
MO-Gov poll: This Nixon doesn't need fixin'.
Nixon approval at 61/26.
Right track/wrong track at 44/39.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!



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