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8R-1D in Tennessee

by: drobertson

Sun Jan 16, 2011 at 11:19 PM EST


At first glance, the GOP appears to be doing as well as it can in TN. They control the governor's mansion, state leg, both senate seats, and every house seat outside of the two in Memphis and Nashville. But the seemingly ironclad Democratic stronghold of Nashville is actually possible for the GOP to crack. TN-05, which encompasses the city, has a PVI of D+3, which is low enough that it can be split among the heavily Republican precincts surrounding Nashville without doing too much damage to the GOP reps in those districts. And TN-05 is also 70% white, so the VRA does not provide an obstacle. I have attempted to draw a map that successfully cracks Nashville, giving the GOP 8 reps, without weakening the surrounding districts (especially the 8th, held by potentially vulnerable freshman Stephen Fincher, aka the gospel singer from Frog Jump).

drobertson :: 8R-1D in Tennessee
Nashville Area:

Memphis Area:

The first step is to take the 9th and turn it into a Democratic vote dump, stretching it out to eat up some African American areas in the rural areas around Memphis. The 8th then comes down and takes the suburban Memphis areas currently in the fifth as well as most of the white areas currently in the 9th (leaving out the more liberal white areas). The new 9th is 23% white, 69% black whereas the old district was 36% white, 60% black. The idea here is to make the districts surrounding Memphis more conservative so that they can take Democratic parts of Nashville.

Nashville itself is split between the 8th, the 7th, and the 6th here. The 5th now encompasses only a small part of Nashville and now includes many more conservative suburban and rural counties. The 8th now stretches along the border of the state from Memphis to Nashville, having given up many rural areas to the 7th to make up for the 7th losing some of the Memphis suburban areas (more on why I did this trade-off later). Likewise, the 4th now stretches much further west into territory previously in the 7th to make up for the population that was taken out of the 4th and given to the 5th. The 6th is probably the least changed of all the districts used to split Nashville. It is still relatively compact and composed mainly of the northern suburbs of Nashville with some of urban Nashville thrown in. All three districts in the east are basically unchanged.

Demographics for all changed districts:
TN-09: 23% White, 69% Black, 5% Hispanic (Previously 36% W, 60% B, 3% H)

TN-08: 73% W, 20% B (Prev 75% W, 22% B)

TN-07 80% W, 12% B (Prev 85% W, 12% B)

TN-06 83% W, 11% B (Prev 90% W, 6% B)

TN-05 79% W, 10% B, 7% H (Prev 70% W, 24% B, 4% H)

TN-04 90% W, 6% B (Prev 93% W, 4% B)

Of all these districts, the one that needed to be protected the most was the 8th. The 8th was the most Democratic district in TN outside of Memphis or Nashville before, and the demographic changes seem to suggest that it has most a point or two more to the left with this redistricting. However, it has also become much more suburban and much less rural. This is very important, because while the rural areas have a very long history of electing blue dog democrats, the suburbs around Memphis are much more conservative and are solidly GOP at a local and national level, unlike the rural areas where Democrats still compete locally. Overall, the PVI of this district probably hasn't changed too much, but I would suspect that it is now a good deal safer for Fincher.

I'm not actually sure that the GOP will do something like this, even though they probably could. It is a pretty atrocious looking map, and even though no majority-minority districts are split, it has looks a lot like something that would have happened in the pre-civil rights era south. There's also not that much to be gained here; it's only one congressional seat that we're talking about. In the end, something like this, while possible, is probably not going to happen. But that doesn't make it any less fun to draw. :)

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8R-1D in Tennessee | 34 comments
Were I the GOP, I'd be inclined to try it


Tenn.
I think the Reps need to tdefinately hink about making Tenn 5 rep leaning by making surrounding Tenn 6 and 7 which could stand to lose some rep voters less rep to get to a 8-1 map. I think the lines could be a little smoother in the western part than your map and accomplish this but why give Cooper a D+3 seat when his could easily be made R+3 or better without impacting the surrounding 2 districts (Black, Blackburn) to where a Dem could win! Tenn 9 needs to gain pop so it should extend and add some dem voters from tenn 8 which will improve Fincher! 8-1 is def doable, will be interesting to see what R's do here!

That is one ugly map
and my home in Memphis would be linked with North Nashville.  I shake my head at the idea of it. Mind you TN7  has linked parts of Shelby county and Davidson county for 30 years.  

To lock up TN8 you can swap territory in Shelby and Montgomery county and add about 4% or so to the republican side.  Swap a few counties and make TN4 several % more GOP and you can lock up 7-2.

For years the democrats in TN more or less conceded TN1 & TN2 plus the Willaimson/East Shelby county seat.  They drew favorable lines for the democrats in CD4-CD6-CD8 but did not mess with the GOP seats.  TN has a fairly long history of fairly  concise compact seats.  In 2001 the democrats could have connected CD4 to inner Chattonoga or Knoxville but we just don't that here in TN.

My crystal ball says 7-2.  

I must admit its a stunning map.  I know some of the exact areas you have moved around here in West TN and its like a jig saw puzzle with just the right pieces cut out to accomplish what purpose you had in mind.  


Ugly....
But if Democrats are going to unpack Chicago and wreck havoc with the Illinois map, Republicans have every reason to be looking at second-tier opportunities like the one they have in Tennessee. There are plenty of reasons to believe that Tennessee will continue to move to the right, as its white population votes more Democratic than do the whites in most other Deep South states.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

Might
as well max out the opportunities you have as they say.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
The GOP in TN has been the subject
of legislative & congressional gerrymandering for years in TN.  There's a long history of state rules on election commissions and selection of statewide officies based on slanted poltical rules that placed repubicans at a disadvantage.

The tendency might be to stick it to them and show no mercy.   Go ahead and do a 8-1 congressional map--do a 25-8 state senate map & 70-29 state house map.  

I personally feel that the price of one house seat will not be worth the price of future political civility in TN.  Its rare that one house seat decides party control and just because Il does a brutal gerrymander is not enough cause for TN to debase itself.  Davidson county should be left mostly intact except for the Belle Meade portion that for years has been attached to Williamson county.  I could be wrong but I think that's what will happen.

I look at politics in IL & NY (from both parties) and I think they need to be more like us down here as opposed to us treating politics as a blood sport.

 


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One seat here one there...
Obviously if the GOP went to make one more seat Republican in every state where they are in charge it could be a significant gain.  PA, OH, MI, TN, NC, etc one seat in each state could easily be a dozen nationwide.  

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That's a great point
but at 7R-2D we see the GOP at a historic high point in TN. TN was within 1500 votes in 1982 of being 7D-2R.  Think Ohio 2010 and TN 2010 as being similar situations.  Every seat that the republicans had a decent chance at was won.  No republican in Ohio is thinking lets see if we can attach Akron to the eastern part of CD4 so we can avoid  a lose of republican seat.  Or lets divide Toledo three ways and divide it among CD4 CD5 & CD8(wow what a mess that would be). If they are thinking these weird thoughts--forget it.

I think a seat  can be squeezed out of Texas & PA.  You might see two or three or four (crazy talk) in  NC plus one or two in GA. I have no problem with democrats or republican maximizing gains where they can be had within reason but factors like incumbency minority seatsregional interests are a brake on some wild looking maps.

Let me take this chance to say that redistricting on the state levelis not always about  maximizing party gains.  There are incumbents to protect-regional interests-protection of minority members and so forth. Fervent partisans may think that but that's not always the  the case.  

 


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1982
Which was the close race? According to Wikipedia, Sundquist won his first term by 7 points that year and Duncan was unopposed. Did Quillen have a real scare that year?

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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Sundquist
won his 1st term in 1982 73,835 to 72,359 over Bob Clement.  Bob Clement later went on to serve in the Nashville seat?

Sundquist was by 1% in 1982.


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A-ha
Makes sense - guess there's a wikipedia error. Thanks!

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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I wikied that too
1982 was 1%.  I might add in 2002 Blackburn waltzed in.  

That reference to Bob Clement did remind that he ended up in Nashville after he lost in 1982.  He later was congressman there and was succeeded by Jim Cooper who represented CD4 for a number of years.  


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Oh please... make not responsible to the democrats after

after the republican redistricting of TX, PA, FL,... few years ago...

It is not fair play...


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For years from the 1970's on
the democrats gerrymandered the GOP in Texas.  The 1971-1981-1991 maps were clear democratic masterpieces.  The GOP stuck it to the democrats in 2003 in TX.  

That being said there are gerrmanders and extreme gerrymander.

Splitting Beaumont and Port Arthur (they are in seperate counties)is what I would consider a legitmate political move as long as you keep the counties intact.  Splitting a county like Travis TX or Davidson TN four ways and drawing a district 200 miles long is not legitmate.

Even in MD & PA most of those weird looking districts only gain you several %.  Those weird lines are not worth two % IMO.  


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Splitting Nashville is pretty egregious
Of course, that may not stop Republicans. Nashville is trending more Democratic and since electoral trends are unpredictable, a map like this may not work out like it was planned.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

The big problem here
is that Cooper is much more conservative than your average Dem representing a D+3 district. Plus you cave him back much of the area he represented as the 4ths congressman in the early 90s. I'd say Cooper can probably win easily in anything up to R+7 and would be safe except for a 2010-like year in anything up to about R+12.

I imagine the real plan will be far less ugly than this. I do like what you've done by packing the 9th even more, but I think Cooper's district will be mildly altered to encompass more suburban areas, perhaps pushing it from D+3 to, say, R+3. That's enough to keep too many R votes from being wasted on Cooper and putting others in jeopardy, but also to give a good chance he won't be succeeded by another Democrat in the 5th.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)


TN-09 Looks Right
I think TN-09 on this map will look a lot like the one Republicans will draw up. I doubt the GOP will be so ambitious in Nashville. In my opinion they'll reshape TN-05 into a 50/50 district. That being said, this map is no uglier than the current one that they have and would most likely result in a 8-1 split.

Yeah, the current map is pretty ugly
Unfortunately for fans of clean lines, DesJarlais and Fleischmann live literally 20 miles away from each other, which means TN-03 and TN-04 will probably have to maintain their current ugly lines in order to keep them in separate districts.

You could probably pull TN-07 out of the Memphis suburbs though, making it more of a Middle Tennessee district and giving those suburbs to TN-08 to shore up Fincher.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


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DesJarlais
in one of those ironic situations lives in just about the most democratic county in his district.  If he did not live there it would be a cinch to move Marion & Sequatchie counties to CD3 and make CD4 quite a bit more republican by swapping out other counties.

I personally think Fincher would not want all of Shelby county that did not end up in CD9. Yes it would be heavily republican but CD8 is sorta funny.  The primary vote in the rural part of CD8 is historically light while the primary vote in Shelby is heavy on the GOP side.  If he got all of Shelby that would be 30% of his seat but 70% of the primary vote.  

Right now I think we see the AA parts of shelby county now in CD8 will go to CD9 and Fincher will pick up the Arlington/Lakeland North Bartlett area plus will keep Millington Rosemark area.  Germantown-Collierville parts of Cordova will stay attached to CD7.  

CD4 can ditch several rural counties in the west & central part of its district for Beford county or similar area.  CD4 does not need much help.  


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Agreed on Fincher.
Putting all of suburban Shelby County in his district means he's vulnerable to a primary challenge from an east Shelby state legislator.

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent

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It's possible to make rather clean lines and still keep all incumbents in their districts
Here's an example:

I honestly think something like this is more likely than a cracking of Nashville. The newly elected incumbents will probably pressure the legislature not to rock the boat too much, especially not give them a bunch of Democratic voters they're unfamiliar with.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


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That would be fairest
But I think the most likely scenario is for the 7th and 8th swap out some territory, maybe in the memphis burbs, to make the 8th more Republican. There's just no good reason for the GOP to have a R+6 district next to an R+18 district and not try to make them both R+12 or so. They will also probably try to tinker with the boundaries of the 9th, though not as much as I did above. It's possible to shift the demographics a good 3-4% while still keeping the 9th completely within Shelby Co.  As to what will happen with Nashville, I really don't know. They could try to make it R+3 or so, but that would probably be pointless IMO because it wouldn't be enough to take out Cooper and it would just unnecessarily weaken other districts. They could also try to pack democrats from the surrounding districts into the 5th to lock in control of the surrounding districts.

Male, VA-08

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I might add that while I think she would be safe
Blackburn drops a bit from in the map above.  You give her  that bit of Nashville and that helps but I think the shelby threeway is a better plan.

I agree with you that 7-2 is likeliest outcome.

Did I mention that the new speaker of the TN house comes from Davidson county.  Beth Harwell comes from Bellemeade the historically GOP part of Davidson county and I think she would be unwilling to carve it up 4 ways.  My guess at least

great maps but unlikely


[ Parent ]
Perhaps the Speaker would like
to become a member of Congress herself.  

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Making the 5th R+3 or so is smart
as a guard against Cooper retiring, or maybe running for Governor in 2018 (TN, like PA, has been a 8-year pendulum for the Governor's mansion). It doesn't need to be R enough to take out Cooper (which I think is impossible even with a map like the one at the top of the page) but it does need to ensure that the seat stands a good chance of flipping in an open-seat situation.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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Cooper's only 56
Despite being first elected to Congress in 1982, he's still relatively young, so him retiring isn't much of a threat.

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent

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Things can happen
over the course of a decade. He could get tired, or run for Governor in 2018 (remember, 8-year rule in TN & Cooper is the kind of Dem who can win statewide in a year that's not 1994.) That's why I'm not advocating it be a R+7 or something like that - I just think it should be pushed a few notches to the right so that Rs can capitalize if the opportunity arises.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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This is the way I thinki the Rs will go
I have done several incarnations of maps with Dave's app on Tennessee along these lines (with +/-500 on the districts). This is most efficient way of securing 7 pretty solid R seats, while holding the moral high ground of creating compact and geographically coherent districts - a big Republican talking point for the last 30 years.

What are the +/-(s) of the districts on this map Marcus?

Democrat: TN-8


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Nothing more than +/- 1000


28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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TN-09
I think making TN-09 69% black by putting a bunch of pieces of other counties with it would be an illegal racial gerrymander and would be struck down by the courts. It's only 60% now, and bringing it up that high would make it the most African-American district in the country.

21, Male, Democrat, MD-02 (home/registered), MD-05 (college)

It's not necessarily racial
The purpose isn't necessarily to pack African Americans into one district, it's to pack Democrats into one district, and it just so happens that in that part of the state almost all the Democrats are African American. This is one of those sketchy areas, but in the past the supreme court has generally ruled that this is okay as long as it has a non-racial purpose, even if the net effect is basically a racial gerrymander.

Male, VA-08

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the 69% figure
would leave them uneasy though - isn't that the reason that South Texas' Hispanic seats have to be drawn as strips?

21, Male, Democrat, MD-02 (home/registered), MD-05 (college)

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I don't get that
The Rio Grande Valley is an obvious community of interest, and a fair redistricting IMHO would put a single compact seat there. But since it would be 95% Hispanic (because that area is 95% Hispanic) it's an unconstitutional racial gerrymander? It's strange what the VRA can do.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

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There probably isn't much risk
in making TN-5 a little (emphasis on a little) more R to maybe contest it when Cooper retires, but I don't think it's necessarily a sure thing either. Nashville is growing and trending blue, and who knows when Cooper will retire- it may be a long time. By then it may not work.

On a more general note, I think Tennessee's districts can afford to be cleaned up a lot without endangering any incumbent. TN-03 in particular is absolutely hideous, and all of East TN is so Republican that there's no need for a district shaped like that.

20, Democrat, KY-01


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