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SSP Daily Digest: 1/14

by: Crisitunity

Fri Jan 14, 2011 at 2:25 PM EST


CT-Sen: Rep. Chris Murphy has been studiously avoiding saying he's running for Senate, but seems to be dancing up to the edge of it more. He tells the Hartford Courant that he's "interested" and that his decision will be "independent" of whether or not Joe Lieberman decides to run for another term. Murphy's also claiming the backing of 2010 Lt. Gov. candidate Mary Glassman. Murphy may have a large hurdle to clear even before getting to take on Lieberman, though; here's another reminder that Rep. Joe Courtney is still scoping out the Senate race too. Dem insiders and labor leaders are conflicted, with the differences between the two more stylistic than ideological, and are, at this point, mostly just hoping to avoid a divisive primary.

FL-Sen: The Republicans have their first big-name candidate to go up against Bill Nelson, although several more seem likely to get in: state Senate president Mike Haridopolos hasn't formally announced, but unveiled his operation yesterday, kicking off his fundraising efforts and launching his website. For what it's worth (not worth much, since Nelson is a thoroughly-known statewide figure at this point) Nelson and Haridopolos share the same geographical turf on the Space Coast.

HI-Sen: An interview with Mufi Hannemann, now decamped to the private sector, raises the question of the 2012 Senate race. Hannemann says that octogenarian Dan Akaka has indicated to him that he'll run again, and he would never run against Akaka, but would "look at it" if there were an opening instead.

MA-Sen: We've already seen the mayors of some of Massachusetts's cities cited as potential candidates (especially Newton's Setti Warren), but here's another one to keep in mind: Salem mayor Kim Driscoll, who has been asking around about the race. Two other mayors get cited in the piece as additional down-in-the-weeds possibilities for the Dems: New Bedford's Scott Lang and Fitchburg's Lisa Wong.

PA-Sen: The magic 8-ball is telling us that Mark Schweiker's odds of running for Senate are pretty hazy at this point. The ex-Gov. just took on a "senior advisor" role (read: lobbyist) at a major law firm, which isn't usually the action of a likely candidate for something.

TX-Sen: The big question today seems to be who all will pile into the overstuffed clown car that will be the GOP field to replace Kay Bailey Hutchison (who announced her retirement yesterday). Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst has already said he's in (which may have surprised some people who thought he was more interested in becoming Governor instead... although those who know Texas politics know that being Governor is actually a step down from being Lt. Governor). Lots of sources today have long lists of all the potential candidates, with the one from the Texas Tribune probably the most thorough, with the other "high" probability GOPers besides Dewhurst being Elizabeth Ames Jones (the mama grizzly), Michael Williams (the teabaggers' fave), Roger Williams (the business candidate), and the state's former solicitor general, Ted Cruz. One other interesting bit of news is that right-wing kingmaker Jim DeMint, who has been squarely behind Michael Williams so far, is branching out his support, also expressing an interest in Cruz (probably at the best of social conservatives, who seem particularly fond of Cruz).

As for the Dems, most of the news has been prominent potential candidates saying "I'm not touching this one." That includes former Dallas mayor Ron Kirk and former Houston mayor Bill White, both of whom have already lost statewide. While John Sharp is expected to run (though he hasn't said anything official since KBH's announcement), some Dems are already casting an eager eye toward San Antonio mayor Julian Castro, an up-and-comer who they think may be ready for prime time, calling the charismatic 30-something the Dems' "Marco Rubio." Other fallback options might include recently defeated ex-Rep. Chet Edwards, or two state Sens., Kirk Watson and Leticia van de Putte, who both were briefly speculation-subjects for last year's gubernatorial race.

MT-Gov: Here's one more Republican candidate for the open seat gubernatorial race, where the field is dominated by ex-Rep. Rick Hill but two state Senators are also in the mix. Jim O'Hara is an elected official, although it barely gets him out of Some Dude territory: he's a Chouteau County Commissioner (population approximately 5,000).

WA-Gov: Chris Gregoire's popularity in Washington seems to be keeping on dwindling; a recent Elway poll put her at just 38/61, worse than her position before the 2010 election. While nobody's really expecting her to run for a technically-possible third term, it's likely she won't announce her plans until after the legislative session is done in order to avoid being a lame duck and have some clout instead.

MA-06: Rep. John Tierney's wife, Patrice, was sentenced to 30 days in jail for aiding and abetting filing of false tax returns (on behalf of her fugitive brother). This is worth a mention here only because it could weigh on Tierney in terms of retirement or drawing a legitimate challenger for 2012, although this mini-scandal has been in the news for months and didn't seem to have caused of an impression in 2010 (although Tierney's kooky opponent probably wasn't in a position to capitalize).

WA-St. House: There's legislation afoot in Washington that could dramatically change the way the state House is set up. Currently, each of the state's 49 legislative districts elect one senator and two representatives (meaning each Washingtonian has three state legislators to keep track of, instead of two). The proposed changes would move Washington toward the more conventional system of 98 individually-districted House districts, which would give each Rep. half as many constituents and in theory make them more accessible. There's no indication, though, of whether this has the backing to go anywhere or if it's just one Rep.'s personal hobby horse.

Mayors: One of the higher-profile mayoral races up for grabs this November will be in Las Vegas, although it's doubtful any of the contenders will have the high profile of termed-out, outgoing mayor Oscar Goodman. (Any reporter writing about Goodman is required by law to refer to him as "colorful" in the first paragraph.) It seems pretty wide open, but three candidates who are already jockeying for position include Clark Co. Commissioner Larry Brown, city councilor Steve Ross, and Chamber of Commerce president Katherine Duncan.

Redistricting: Here's a nice promise from Pennsylvania Republican state Senate president Dominic Pileggi regarding transparency in the redistricting process this year. He says that he's planning a website that will offer "voter data, past district maps... and proposed maps when time allows." Easy access to that kind of data ought to get a whole lot of SSPers salivating, but bear in mind that, for now, simply remains a promise. (Also, bear in mind that Pennsylvania has an odd system, where state legislative boundaries are drawn by a bipartisan commission but congressional boundaries are drawn directly by the legislature, subject to the governor's veto. The GOP, rather inconveniently for us, just took over the trifecta for the first time since, oh, the last redistricting.)

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I'd take Case over Hannemann any day...
Something tells me a Bush appointee isn't exactly going to fire up the Democratic base in Hawaii.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

Neither one of them are that inspiring.


19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Ugh
The thought of either one of them in the Senate makes me want to throw up. Case might be slightly better than Hannemann but not by a lot. Hannabusa or the other who I know I can't spell her last name are the best bets. Or the LG who is very young could hold the seat forever. We could do better than Case. I would support almost anyone over Case.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Mazie Hirono.


19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Hirono and Hanabusa
need to replace both Akaka and Inouye.  Two liberal Asian-American males for two liberal Asian-American females.  Even trade with some excellent added feminism.  

When the two Senators are both ready to retire of course.


[ Parent ]
I believe Inouye expects Hanabusa to be his
replacement. I would assume he would retire in 2016. Hanabusa is sort of a protégé of Inouye's. I truly hope that Hirono decides to run if Akaka does retire.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Inouye will NEVER retire
They'll have to carry him out.

[ Parent ]
Hirono and Hanabusa are both good
But Hirono will be 65 in 2012 and Hanabusa will be 61. I'd prefer someone younger.

[ Parent ]
Hirono could get a respectable 3 terms in and Hanabusa possibly 4.
Unless your just talking about their age in general.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Then
the LG is your best bet. He's 37.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Hawaii
In Hawaii, that makes them kids. Inouye and Akaka are 86.

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
And Abercrombie is 72
It's a good thing Obama didn't stay in Hawaii to start his political career; a youngster like him wouldn't have had a chance.

[ Parent ]
I
hope to at least see one of them in the Senate. Two would be great.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Hannemann is awful
if this were Ohio I'd say ok, but it's Hawaii. we can do so much better than that asshole.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Case
is the same. A Joe Lieberman clone.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
MA-06
Hudak was the only Republican the Herald refused to endorse. If Tierney had a bland opponent rather than a crazy birther, he would have been in serious trouble.  The 6th district is the second most conservative in the state, after the 10th.  

I'm assuming the district will be made more Democratic in the next redistricting, even still, I suspect Tierney retires, but you never know, it might blow over.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


Could they force him to retire and just take his district out?
That way we don't have to have someone like Capuano or Lynch (god forbid) running for the Senate in 2012.  

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
I think that's a possibility
Tisei (probably the only Republican I know who could lock down a D+7 district) is making serious noise about running. If the district looks the same, I bet he jumps in, with or without Tierney, and would be at worst a slight underdog in either case. So I think there will probably be an attempt to split it up between MA-5 and MA-7. The one hangup is that Markey probably won't like that (he'll be representing mostly new territory).

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

[ Parent ]
Maybe in a midterm
But with Obama leading the ticket and getting around 60% of the vote in MA-06, its going to be hard for any Republican to win the district.  

[ Parent ]
Good Point
But Scott Brown is also almost certainly going to win MA-6 (if he doesn't, he's losing in a landslide). Tisei is a bona-fide Liberal Republican, and Obama voter that is open to splitting their ticket for Brown will be open to splitting their ticket for Tisei, assuming they know who he is.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

[ Parent ]
The point is probably moot
Democrats will control redistricting and will probably either eliminate the district or add bits of Boston to it in order to make it unwinnable for a Republican.  

[ Parent ]
I'm inclined to agree
that the 6th is the most tempting target to eliminate (no way it can be pushed into taking a big part of Boston - maybe Eastie, but that's hardly a signficiant change population wise.)

The real question, though, is whether Markey will agree to the 6th being eliminated. The only way to do that while keeping Tsongas in her district really involves putting Markey in a district that's about 60% new territory. As somebody who's really trying to be the next John Dingell, I think he'd be less than thrilled about that. And as the most senior member, he probably has more pull than average in the legislature.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)


[ Parent ]
Would Tisei be the first openly gay Republican congressman?
I think he would have likely won had he ran for congress rather than for Lt. Gov.  However, between redistricting, Presidential turnout, and the scandal fading in voters' memories, 2012 will be tougher.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
There have been 2
Steve Gunderson of Wisconsin (who was outed on the floor) and Jim Kolbe of Arizona (who came out under pressure from gay groups after his vote for DOMA).

Tisei would, however, be the first Republican Congressman elected for the first time as an openly gay man. That would make him similar to Colorado's Jared Polis, who was the first out gay man elected as a freshman when he won in 2006.  

24, SSP Gay Caucus Policy Committee Chair, Western Democrat; CO-05 (home), CA-14 (law school)


[ Parent ]
Polis was first elected in 2008
when Mark Udall vacated the seat to run for Senate.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
I know where talking about gay men specifically, but we
shouldn't forget about Tammy Baldwin. First openly LGBT person elected to Congress period.

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
Well, not really
Hate to nitpick, but Gerry Studds and Barney Frank were both elected after coming out of the closet. Baldwin is just the first to win a first term while openly gay.

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

[ Parent ]
That's what I meant!
So nitpicky. :)  

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
we might as well also note Annise Parker, Houston mayor
since she actually represents more people than do congresscritters. and she was out at the time of election.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Nope
Steve Gunderson was outed in 1994 from the floor and Jim Kolbe from AZ, Giffords' old district actually, came out in 96 I believe.  

[ Parent ]
That is a possibility as well
It's actually had a lot of depopulation.  The trick would be to do it without making the 5th too Republican.  I might work on such a map over the weekend.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
Easy to do
Just plunge the 5th deep into Metro-West while giving up NW Middlesex to the 1st (which has to expand East - there's no choice in that matter.) The 7th will have to retract from Framingham/Natick in order to pick up the North Shore sections of the 6th.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

[ Parent ]
The 8th is hoarding Democrats
You can easily give Cambridge to one district, Somerville to another, and Boston to yet another. Eastern Mass has enough Democratic strongholds that you can  make a fairly safe 9-0 map no matter which district you decide to blow up. The only one you can't really improve is the Keating seat (currently MA-10, will get a new number soon) because those are the most Republican areas of the state and you can't really split them up.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Keating's problem is where he lives
After Delahunt retired, I thought, great, we got rid of the Quincy politician, let's get someone from SE Massachusetts. Instead we got another Norfolk County person. No offense to Bill Keating, but redistricting-wise it'd be a lot easier for Dems to draw New Bedford into the district.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Yeah, a SE Mass seat would solve a lot of problems
Attach the Cape to Fall River, New Bedford, and Taunton and you're good to go. But Democrats would have to be careful about where they put Plymouth County, which is the most Republican part of MA-10 and wouldn't fit in the SE district. You would have to find a way to draw Frank over there or attach it to Mattapan or Roxbury, or maybe even use water contiguity to attach part of it to Markey's 7th (not gonna happen, but that would be fun to see.)

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
I think your idea of attaching it to Boston might work
Although rather than Mattapan or Roxbury I think you could give it to Stephen Lynch, as he won in a landslide even last year and if we're going to have a conservadem we might as well feed the Republican parts of the state to him.

If not, giving it to Frank wouldn't be the worst idea, he already represents the Republican area around Middleboro-Lakeville and won by double digits last year. .

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Conventional wisdom about the PA Leg.
redistricting process is that the Republicans will ultimately control that too because the tie-breaker is appointed by the Supreme Court, which has a Republican majority. However, they won't be as quickly able to run the table as they will with the Congressional map. Ten years ago the legislators came to an agreement on their maps with relative ease, and I would expect them to do so again.

And with 203 seats, the state house should be rather more difficult to gerrymander. It has proven to be quite swingy in the past.  


Mary Glassman
is the first selectwoman of Simsbury. Nancy Wyman is the Lt. Governor.

Moderate Libertarian Republican, MA-8 (college) / MD-7 (hometown)

Beat me to it
I was just going to post that.  Glassman did run in the primary as Ned Lamont's running mate, and was the Lt. Gov. nominee in 2006.

[ Parent ]
Oh, right, thanks
I guess Glassman was Ned Lamont's running mate.

[ Parent ]
Would she run for Murphy's seat?
If he runs for Senate he might endorse her out of gratitude

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

[ Parent ]
LePage epically fails at imitating Gov. Christie...
Maine Gov. Paul LePage said that the NAACP can "kiss my butt" for criticizing his non-participation in Martin Luther King Day events.

LePage told WCSH6.com that the NAACP is "a special interest. End of story. And I'm not going to be held hostage by any special interests."

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

He's a one-termer for sure.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Wait....
...there are black people in Maine? I'm pretty sure it's just old white people.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

[ Parent ]
he's using the fact...
That his adopted son is Black to attempt deflection.  It seems he knew this was coming and was waiting to use his son in this way.

[ Parent ]
That's disgusting
That's just more evidence that he's a racist, as far as I'm concerned

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

[ Parent ]
Fucking
idiot. Though I do hope LePage and the GOP controlled Maine Legislature turns Maine into a shining example of tea party governance....so they never ever are trusted to be in power ever again. Can't wait until he openly insults Obama like he did during the campaign.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
ugh
He's the new Evan Mecham.  

41, Ind, CA-05

[ Parent ]
*Cringe*
Yikes, Chris Christie he's not.


[ Parent ]
CA Redistricting
Did we ever get an answer on what court (Fed or State) would ultimately draw the new California map if the new redistricting commission can't agree on one?

"Earnestness is stupidity sent to college"
P. J. O'Rourke


It seems that the constitution
provides for the State Supreme Court to resolve a deadlock. It has done so in the past, and I assume that a Federal court would defer unless the final map were not consistent with the U.S. Constitution and the VRA.  

[ Parent ]
Texas Gov v Lt Gov
I've been reading this a lot recently, but what exactly makes the Lt. Gov "the most powerful position in Texas"? What kind of powers or duties does he have that can make him more powerful than the Gov?

He is literally
the President of the Senate.   He sets the agenda, decides the committee make-up and assignments and whatnot.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Back when
Hutchinson was trying to win in a primary against Perry, Cornyn seemed genuinely worried about the outcome, saying how important it was to keep the seat in the hands of the Republicans. Or did he? Was his concern anything more than the usual nonsense, or did he honestly feel that an open seat and a vigorous challenge from the Democrats might hand the seat to them?

Anyway, what are the chances of this getting ugly for the Republicans?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


I think there was a point, in early 2009
When Cornyn was worried about a special election continuing the Dems momentum from 2008. I doubt he has that concern anymore.

It could get ugly for the Republicans, but unless they really do nominate a Sharron Angle type (which Michael Williams is not), they will win this seat, I suspect, rather easily.  


[ Parent ]
Debra Medina
She's the Texas answer to Angle, and Democrats probably won't make a close race of this unless she or someone similar is the nominee. Michael Williams strikes me as more of a DeMint or a Coburn type--very conservative, but also disciplined enough to win and hold the seat.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
I agree.
He might be very, very extreme in some of his opinions, but he isn't mentally unbalanced as far as I can tell.

Still, I wonder if he's too conservative for the state as whole.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
I wonder what the chances of her getting in the race would be.
Cause she might be able to slip through between Dewhurst and Michaels based on a coalation of paulists-conspiracy nuts-successionists and racists while Willams gets the post 1960s conservative vote and Dewhurst gets the sane ones.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

[ Parent ]
Isn't there
a primary runoff if the top vote getter doesn't secure at least 50 percent of the vote?

Also, why is Leppert a Republican? He sounds like he should be a Democrat, which probably means he will go nowhere in a Republican primary. Granted, I've only read over his Wikipedia page, so there must be more to him and his policies than I realize.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
On the first count I think your right
which means Williams is much more likely.  

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

[ Parent ]
I dunno.
I think Dewhurst would probably win.  He has broader appeal.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
As a Medina supporter
I would agree she is probably the weakest Republican that can win the primary. But I do wonder if she will be similar to Rand Paul, who had one bombed interview with Maddow and managed to resurrect himself.

If you see Medina or Ron Paul come out and win the nomination, I would expect national Democrats to target the seat with an Angle-style narrative.

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04


[ Parent ]
CT-Sen
If I were a Connecticut voter, I'd want Murphy. He's pretty young, so unless he has Presidential ambitions, he could have a long Senate career ahead of him. Courtney is 20 years older; he wouldn't be able to build up the kind of seniority Murphy could (and since Dick Blumenthal is even older than Courtney, he's not going to be doing that either). The only downside with Murphy is that his district could be vulnerable in an open seat situation.

RNC
chairman elections 4th ballot results. Buh bye Steele:

85 needed to win

Priebus - 58
Cino - 29
Wagner - 28
Steele - 28
Anuzis - 24
Write-in-1

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...


19, Male, Independent, CA-12


Twitterverse
says that Michael Steele is staying in for the 5th round....not over until the fat lady signs eh Steele?

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
C-SPAN
I've been keeping half an eye on this tv coverage, and they said that Steele and Wagner met privately for a few minutes between rounds. Wagner bolted before cameras could get to her, but Steele seemed happy and said "There is no deal yet."

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


[ Parent ]
Twitterverse is wrong
Steele just conceded and threw his support to Cino.

23, male, Democrat, IA-02 (previously CA-26, PA-06, CA-06)

[ Parent ]
And roughly half of his support
appeared to go to Priebus in the 5th round.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
WA/NJ
I doubt the Washington thing will get anywhere.  There's an identical setup in NJ, and what ends up happening is when there are 2 or more Communities of interest, they have to come up with a way to share the seats.  If the districts were cut in half for State House purposes, that would be a lot more difficult (though I personally think, better).  Take the NJ-14 race this year.  Forever, both parties have run tickets where the Senate seat has gone to Hamilton (Mercer), as has one of the Assembly seats.  The other Assembly seat has gone to Middlesex County.  (there was a bit of problem in '09 with this, but that's for another day.)  In practice, this can cause a problem if voters split tickets and vote for, say, all the Mercer candidates.  It's always worked out okay though.

This year, the Middlesex Assemblywoman, Linda Greenstein (D), ran and won the Senate Seat.  Wayne DeAngelo (D) holds the other Assembly Seat, and he's from Mercer.  Now, which area gets the newly vacated seat?  Hamilton says they want it, because they have a bigger population and are the "Capital" of the district.  But Middlesex doesn't want BOTH Assemblypeople to be from Mercer, just because they won the Senate seat.  At the Convention election on Saturday, there were candidates from both Counties, and the winner was Dan Benson, from Mercer.  

Now, would the Mercer Dems have been as happy to support Greenstein if they knew that they didn't have a shot at holding both Assembly seats in return?  That would have been a problem if the districts were the way they are in other places.  The power brokers want to be able to play with the seats as described above, and I'm sure they want to be able to do that in Washington, too.  So I doubt they'll push that idea forward.


Minnesota Legislature
On the subject of changing state legislatures there are Bills in the House and Senate that would shrink the State Senate from 67 to 56 members and the House from 134 to 118 members.

http://www.startribune.com/pol...

I have my doubts the Legislature will actually vote to downsize but IMO it is a good idea.  

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


Would that effect the outcome of a Democratic take back of
either house?

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

[ Parent ]
I want to give the edge to favoring the DFL
The state senate has always been in DFL hands even while the house fluctuates, with the house seats being made two house = one state senate.  And from looking at the current map extensively, that has been because with the larger constituency and this combination, we end up combining more inner metro areas with outer metro areas.  At the Congressional level and with only three seats, this fucks us.  With about 20-25 seats being the suburban ones outside of the major city, it's hard to gerrymander anything and sometimes you just end up with well.

But the places that have been the growth areas are the most Republican so the cities and the DFL parts of Greater MN would be on the chopping block.  Although, the 1st and several 2nd ring suburbs have been stagnant as well so maybe some of those would condense a bit and be helpful.  And by condensing them, then other suburbs wouldn't have nearly as much rural territory attached to them so they could be much more competitive.

(In summary, it'd take a lot of man hours and map making to figure it out.)


[ Parent ]
I guess I don't have a problem with this
Not that I really care all that much. But it does mean that a few of them will be out of jobs in 2 years, not that it wouldn't have been the case either way, but this ensures it.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


[ Parent ]
Best thing would be unicameral leg.
I know the Minnesota IP has pushed for that. And, frankly, it's a good idea. Having bicameral legislatures at the state level is completely redundant, given one-man-one-vote rules. State Senate's aren't representing the population in any fundamentally different way from State Houses. Nebraska and all Canadian provinces function with just one legislature, and states having a separately-elected governor is enough of a check to provide sufficient separation of powers.  

[ Parent ]
I wouldn't have a problem with that either
Minnesota literally just divides its senate districts in half to get house districts. For instance, I live in Senate District 50, but I love in House District 50A (There is also a district 50B). I would have no problem going unicameral.

26 White Male. Born and raised in MN-8, currently living in MN-5.

"A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything."


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Massachusetts could benefit from that too
Unlike some other states, the power is concentrated in the House rather than the Senate at the state level. Because both chambers are so Democratic and parochial, there can be faction warfare on some major issues, like casino gambling. The House and Senate also have a hard time reconciling their proposals with each other and the governor on major legislation as well sometimes. A Nebraska-type system would be more efficient and possibly less corrupt as well.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Dang
Seems to me that if you decrease the number of seats, it makes it easier to channel large amounts of money into a single race to win it and harder to win a race with less money.  

19, Male, libertarian Republican, TX-14 and MN-04

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So, Anuzis' and Wagner's support is
expected to break for Cino, no? So she's favored to win right now, if Preibus doesn't somehow manage to get 30% or so of their votes. Which looks unlikely considering that he got only like 30% of Steele's votes, and Preibus wasn't an anti-Steele candidate if I remember correctly.

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)

Priebus just 5 short of majority at 80 votes.
Interesting, contrary to what everyone said he seems to have cross-over appeal to the other factions.

Wagner collapsing at 17, Anuzis 37, Cino 34. Seems like no one becomes the 'anyone but Preibus' candidate.  

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)


I know where Priebus is from and all
but what does anybody have to say about him here?  I know he was working at the RNC under Steele, correct?

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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The guy who will set up Haley Barbour for President? n/t


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Haley Barbour can't appeal broadly.
Especially after he recently spoke fondly of a white supremacist group from his home town just because they weren't violent like the KKK.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Besides the point w/r/t the nomination
If he gets serious consideration in the R primaries, he'd probably do an excellent imitation of the '64 Barry Goldwater.

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Ok
Sorry, my mind was on cruise control and made the thread about Barbour when it was supposed to be about Priebus.

(On a side note, every time I read "Priebus", my mind reads it as "Priapus" at first.)

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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May I derail with some comedy gold?


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Sure.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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From the Politico comments
"So what's the big deal all of a sudden re. the RNC election? Both Priebus and Steele are exellent choices, and will clean the Democrat Socialist's and Comrade Obama's clocks come 2012. The totally incompetent half-wit Comrade Obama and the Democrat Socialist Party has put our economy so badly into the tank, after their 2 year quest to change our economy into a Socialist Communist Police State, that Donald Duck could probably beat them and their candidates. This economy, and the 10% unemployment numbers we've been seeing since these incompetents took over, isn't likely to get any better in the next 2 years.

Posted By: sig | January 14, 2011 at 04:22 PM"


[ Parent ]
Comments sections
are crazier in some places than others.  :S

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Yeah
Somebody actually thought Steele was a decent choice!

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Some days I accidentally keep scrolling
and find myself reading comments at news places.  My local (and by local and mean largest in MN) paper has the most ridiculous commenters it makes me sad that's they're my neighbors.

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Helllloooooooo Echo Chamber!
(meanwhile Priebus is thanking Jesus for his victory....)

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He's the chair of the Wisconsin GOP
And they just had a very good year there, so to that extent the promotion makes sense.

Basically he's a lawyer.  He was chief council for Steele and did some work for a private firm on the side, including helping clients get stimulus money.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


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Stimulus
Another hypocrite then. Stands to reason.

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I think so, that's why he was seen
as tainted. Doesn't seem to be a problem for him thus far. The GOP did well in Wiconsin in 2010, I don't know how much credit he can take for it though.

Also, the RNC should really get rid of Jan Larimer. How bad can one be at procedure, forgetting that the ballots have to be counted for two consecutive ballots?

18- Hamburg, Germany (non-US-citizen)


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Wagner drops out, won't endorse.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


We (they) have a winner
Seventh Ballot

Priebus - 97 - WINNER
Anuzis - 43
Cino - 28
Wagner - (withdrew)
Steele (withdrew)


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