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A Slightly More Cautious Gerrymander of Illinois 2.0

by: jsramek

Wed Dec 15, 2010 at 3:50 AM EST


Heeding some of the comments I received on yesterday's map (thank you by the way!), I drew a slightly more VRA-observant, slightly more cautious, but still robust Democratic gerrymander of Illinois.  This map assumes that the DOJ is going to insist on 60%+ for Chicago's already-protected VRA Latino district and therefore only drew a second one that is 52% Hispanic for Lipinski.  Probably by the end of this decade it will become enough Hispanic to elect a Hispanic congressman.  I was convinced in the commentary that my 56% Latino district of yesterday's map is of questionable legality.

I also drew each of the 3 VRA Black districts 53% Black.  Why 53% you might ask?  That is how much each of the districts contain now when you add in additional population to account for relative population loss.  That is the maximum you can realistically place in a VRA protected Black district from Chicago after 2010, assuming that the census estimates are accurate.  We'll know for sure in a few months.  I was under the impression that the courts have started interpreting the VRA to require 50%+1 when possible of the population but perhaps it's a bit more in areas where it is feasible to create such districts?

The other two highlighted changes from yesterday is that I firmed up the 14th and made it an almost certain Democratic pickup like the district I designed for Debbie Halvorson.  I do not agree with the comment made by a person or two that my finger down the lake for the 10th isn't robust enough.  I double checked the numbers today: it is nearly 150,000 new residents of precincts that on average gave 85-90% of their votes to Obama and probably 80-85% to Kerry four years earlier. This more than makes up for the loss of Waukegan.  Waukegan in turn helps Melissa Bean in her rematch with Joe Walsh.  I respectfully disagree with the comment suggesting it did not help elect a Democrat congressman finally to the 10th, although not three-time loser Dan Seals (please!).  Whether we want to quibble over whether I should label it safe Democratic or probably Democratic, Dolt is a one-term wonder.

The second significant change is that I created a second Republican vote sink in northern Illinois and placed Biggert, Roskam, and Hultgren in the same seat that swoops from the more Republican areas of DuPage out a narrow tendril to further exurbia.  Should be fun watching that primary.

I then grouped Manzullo and Schiller together in a district that favors Manzullo.  The third pair-up includes Schock vs. Kinzinger out of personal spite.  One of these glamour boys has got to go!  And it will be 2014 until they can think on taking on Dick Durbin or Governor Quinn; good luck again either!

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Chicagoland:

District 1 (dark blue): Rush-D 53%B, 39%W.  Stays in Cook County now but takes very white areas away from Lipinski so the district can comply with the VRA.

District 2 (dark green): Jackson Jr.-D 53%B, 39%W.  Gives up a bit of Hispanic and racially mixed south Chicago and suburbs to Halvorson in exchange for a bit of lean-Republican suburbia formerly in Biggert's district.  Still Jackson will have no worries here and it may introduce him to some new voters he'll need if he ever wants to follow through on his statewide aspirations.

District 3 (purple): Lipinski-D 51% Hispanic, 41% White

Probably white-majority electorate but as the children become voters, this district will eventually probably elect a second Hispanic congressman.  I expect a lot of hollering about this district and possibly some lawsuits, but the comments on yesterday's map convinced me of its dubious legality regarding these two seats.  Besides, I offer you two options here.

District 4 (red): Gutierrez-D 63% Hispanic, 26% White, 5% Black.  It's certainly possible to cram more Hispanics in here but I think it will no longer be legal to do this.  The VRA - as has been pointed out - is not designed to ensure the election of a member of the ethnic group but rather to give that ethnic or racial group the maximum opportunity of electing candidates of their choice.  Again, I've shown yesterday that it is feasible to create two districts that, on paper, are majority Hispanic - the question is whether the DOJ and/or the courts will require it be done.  We'll find out next year.

Also I see no reason to draw the earmuffs except to preserve a Republican gerrymander, which is why they were drawn in the first place after 1990.  By reconnecting the two parts of the seat a bit differently, you can have Davis go out into DuPage County and free up enough non-Black areas of Chicago currently in his district to vote in the 10th.

District 7 (grey) Davis-D 53%B, 33%W, 8%H

Almost goes up to Roskam's doorstep.  Helps out the gerrymander perhaps the most as it probably ensures the election of a new Democratic congressman from the 10th and, indirectly, helps out Melissa Bean in her comeback bid as it free up enough territory that the 10th doesn't need Waukegan.

District 5 (yellow) Quigley-D 70%W, 16%H, 4%B

In the absence of partisan numbers, I'll guestimate based on the racial numbers and from eye-balling this that I've left enough of Quigley's Chicago base to not cause him much worries.  The areas of northern DuPage County were 50-50 in Kerry-Bush and are probably slightly Dem-leaning by now.  Elk Grove also I believe is slightly Dem-leaning by now.

District 9 (light blue) Schakowsky-D 63%W, 14%H, 13%A, 8%B

Again, I believe the addition of Wheeling Twp with Mt. Pleasant is probably not endangering Schakowsky terribly, especially when I left intact her Jewish and liberal Chicago and northern suburban base.

District 10 (pink-red) Dolt-R but probably I'm guessing Hamos-D 74%W, 11%H, 9%A, 5%B

A competent suburban Democrat can win this district.  As pointed out in the comments to my other map, the thin narrow tendril down to Navy Pier is deceiving; it is packed with high-rises which vote ~85% Democratic.  I tried not to rob too much of them from Schakowsky.  Probably turns an already D+6 district (the most frigging Democratic PVI seat at the moment represented by a Republican in Congress!) probably into a district that voted for Obama in the mid 60s% and for Kerry around 60%.  Although actual numbers here will rest my case.

District 8 (purple) Bean-D vs. Walsh-R 64%W, 20%H, 9%A, 6%B

Tilts toward Bean now with the addition of Waukegan and a few Hispanic precincts in northern DuPage.  Adds the Republican part of Palatine back into the district, though.  And Bean lives in frigging Barrington.  At least the district contains no more of McHenry, though.  Without McHenry in the district in 2010, Bean would have won re-election.  I think the fact that Walsh is a wack-job, Obama is at the top of the ballot, and this is a better district for Bean will all result in this district flipping in 2012.


District 11 (indigo) VACANT designed for Halvorson-D 60%W, 20%H, 15%B

Kinzinger drawn into the 18th to duke it out with Aaron Schock, modeled after Halvorson's old state senate seat which straddled the Will-southern Cook County area if I recall.  Modeled after the district of the 1990s actually but a bit more Democratic now than then so Halvorson should like this district quite nicely.

Northern Illinois more generally

District 6 (teal) Hulgren-R vs. Roskam-R vs. Biggert-R 80%W, 8%H, 7%A, 4%B

I bet you Biggert retires and Roskam and Hulgren try to out tea party the other.  Might leave an opening for a Melissa Bean kind of Democrat as this district - although drawn to be a Republican vote sink - still probably narrowly voted for Obama in 2008.  So it isn't super-Republican.  Should be fun to watch.

District 14 (brown-green) VACANT but designed for a Foster comeback 61%W, 26%H, 9%B, 3%A

More firmly Democratic than yesterday's version.  What a big difference adding Aurora makes.  In case you are wondering what the deal is about the tiny dip into DuPage is - two reasons.  First of all partisan redistricting tends to be a bit petty - for example the tiny finger going into Montgomery County, PA to come near Hoeffel's house - I think I might have come very close to drawing Hultgren into here.  But more the point, it grabs a few carefully chosen Hispanic precincts.


District 16 (green) Manzullo-R vs. Schilling-R

Swoops around the 14th and takes all the rural Republican areas of northern Illinois out of that district and the 17th to the south.

District 17 (dark purple) VACANT possibly the Democratic Moline-based State Representative that was mentioned in the comments?

Very little different from yesterday's version.

District 18 (yellow) Kinzinger-R vs. Schock-R

Who can out-glamour and out tea party the other?  Realistically if you are a cynical political operator out of Springfield (and who isn't in this state of consummate political machine politicians - and I thought New York State was bad!), you will get rid of the one of the two greatest long-term threats to Dick Durbin in 2014 by pairing them together.  Either one of them would make formidable candidates in a toxic midterm in the 6th year of Obama's possible two-term presidency.  Not that I think Durbin's in any danger or doesn't know how to get his hands dirty and win an election.  Just thinking about the long-term view.

Anyway, this is a rural heartland GOP vote sink now missing its juicy Democratic cities.

Downstate

District 15 (orange) Johnson-R but maybe not for long

Very similar to how I drew the seat yesterday.  I'd like to see Kerry numbers on this one, but I think the cities probably outvoted the Republican rural areas connecting them.  And even if not, it is better to try to capture one seat rather than than divide these cities into two districts and continue electing two Republican congressmen.

District 12 (medium blue) Costello-D

Very similar to yesterday's version except I thought that Edwardsville, with its students, might be added to add a few more Democrats to the seat, and subtracted much of racist Union County.  The reason you need a tiny tendril down to Cairo is that the very tip of the state is about 30-35% black and reliably Democratic.  I live in this district, in uber-liberal Carbondale, where I teach in the history department at SIU.  Costello is so frigging safe that I figured he did not need my vote this year and voted Green to protest against his antics on the health care reform law earlier this year when he was one of the Stupak gang threatening to withhold votes needed to pass it.

District 13 (pink-red) Shimkus-R

As I said before, it pains me that I have to draw a vote-sink for Shimkus but there it is.  A devious possible alteration would be to throw Shimkus into the southern-central Illinois cities seat and draw more moderate Johnson into the vote-sink.  I guess it doesn't really matter.

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Nice work
I like how you incorporated the feedback from the other thread. Part of me is disappointed that you abandoned the idea of throwing Rep.-elect Kinzinger into a Democratic district, but part of me really likes the schadenfreude of Kinzinger and pretty-boy Rep. Schock being forced into the octagon instead of one or both getting to sit on his laurels and script out a path to either House Republican leadership, the U.S. Senate, or the governor's mansion in Springfield.

Rep. Shimkus is one of my least favorite members, so I would love to see him drawn out of that vote sink just to spite the theocratic bastard.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


yep...
Trying to think like Michael Madigan for a moment, even if that makes me shudder!  No resting on laurels for anybody but perhaps Shimkus, and the more I think about it, I should probably swap Johnson into the vote sink and/or make Shimkus move by putting the rest of Madison County in with Costello.

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I don't think
that the person who was arguing that you can't have a Hispanic district that's "only" 57% Hispanic understood the law that well, and the supposed 65% threshold that they cited for Texas Hispanic districts was total fiction. The only relevant case law on this matter, which comes from the League of United Latin Citizens vs. Perry lawsuit in 2006, which mandated that 50+% of Hispanic residences of a district be over the age of 18; they (for better or worse) don't consider citizenship or voter registration.

That all being said, it's very difficult to predict how exactly the Justice Department is going to choose to enforce the VRA, and this map is a totally possible outcome. It just continues to blow my mind that people throw their hands up in the air and say that a second Hispanic VRA district in Illinois is impossible, and come up with increasingly weird reasons to drag their feet on the matter, when you and others have shown that it's really quite easy.

One other thing that I'd point out, just because I feel like I walk in these threads and ignore districts that don't involve Hispanics, is that you kept Judy Biggert's house (in western Cook County) in what passes for her district. Might as well commit random acts of cat fud if you can try and get that into the 1st or 3rd. All the better to convince her that 14 years in Congress will be more than enough.

22, Democrat, AZ-01
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the 3rd would be quite simple
Lipinski lives in Western Springs; Biggert in Hinsdale.  Right next door to one another.  But the reason Biggert isn't thrown in with Lipinski - which had the Republicans captured the governor's mansion would have been the likeliest outcome - is because I think some of the Cook County suburbs might actually vote for a pro-choice moderate in the Jim Thompson/Jim Edgar mold over a anti-choice machine politician even if the district is slightly majority Hispanic.  I think Madigan will take care not for this to happen.

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Thanks for posting this map
I appreciate the work.

I think this map is an improvement over the other one.  That 63% plus the 53% for the three AA seats will certainly help.  Plus without the other Hispanic seat the white vote % drops even more in those seats.  Don't want to refight the same issue but these congressman will feel a lot better with these seats then the other ones.  I might add some sort of process like that will go on in Springfield or Chicago or DC.  Maps are draw then comments are made.  

As to downstate I go back to other comments that I made.  I am honestly clueless as to who are the ambitious downstate democratic legislators are.  No idea.  

There are certainly Democratic state senators or representatives in cities like Rock Island-Rockford- Peoria Springfield Joliet- Bloomington Decatur- Champaign who want to punch a ticket to DC.  There is only one downstate incumbent congressman who has to be consulted (Costello) -the rest of downstate is a blank canvas.  One thing to remember in this process is that there are not enough Cook county democrats to draw these congressional lines.  The Downstate democrats will have a huge sway in this map.  


Even better than the first
The GOP vote sinks do a good job of taking in DuPage and McHenry. Bean would be very happy with the IL-8 on this map, more security. Downstate is smart, all those Democratic votes in in cities would be utilized here.

LOL at you calling Kinzinger and Schock glamour boys. I'm sure Madigan and the Democratic brass will be thinking strategically, they'll want to draw one of these two out to help limit the statewide GOP bench.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.


I would hope
IL Dems could come up with someone better than Bean.

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don't think another Democrat would win this district, though...
at least not at first.  So, you go with the devil you know instead of the devil you don't.  Besides, there are hardly any Democratic state legislators who represent parts of this district, except maybe Waukegan.  So, I think Madigan will draw a district for one of the former members of the delegation.

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So if my math is right
this is +5D, -6R? That's a pretty heavy lift, but the baseline numbers suggest that it ought to be possible.  

13-4-1
is how I would score it... with the 1 a likely tilt-Bean, or a neutral district without Bean.  If Dolt through some freak of nature holds onto the 10th and Bean doesn't prevail, it would be as close as 12-6 but no more than that.

One of the problems of Democratic voting strength generally is that it is so concentrated whereas Republican vote is more evenly spread out.  But this turns into a strength if you unpack Chicago because no Republican can hold onto their seats even if you tip only a relatively small percentage (say 20%) of Chicago or heavily-Democratic inner suburbs into both the 10th and the 11th.  Just eyeballing it, and having a rough idea of how Kerry performed (from once looking at the ward-by-ward results), I'd say that the 10th is now something like ~60% Kerry (or a D+11.5) and the 11th is perhaps a bit even higher than that (62-63%) or a D+13 or so.  The 14th, because it only includes Rockford City and not any of its probably Republican suburbs, only dips in to get DeKalb and then grabs both Elgin and Aurora, also is probably now in the ~55-60% Kerry area at least, maybe even a little higher?

Once we get Obama numbers, I plan on subtracting about 3-5 points in the suburbs from the total to get a rough guestimate of what a generic Democrat might get.  

But again, I think this gives us 14-4.  


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Jeff is going to give us 2010 averages
which seems perfect for what you're doing. Obama/McCain 2008 would be really difficult to work with.

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yes that would be better
although I will caution that Quinn/Brady numbers are a bit off as well.  Quinn's 50.2% or so of the two-person vote comes almost entirely out of Cook County.  He lost all but 3 counties in the rest of the state!  Still, if you adjust the numbers upwards by about 3-6 points, you will get close to where a generic Democrat would get in the state as a whole (something like 55% of the vote I think).  So, if Obama is the ceiling of Democratic performance before you start hitting straight-ticket Republicans who are not persuadable, Quinn probably is the floor (or Kirk actually as it is possible - although barely possible now - to elect a statewide Republican in Illinois).

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Jeff says he'll include
all of the statewide races. He says that the two-party average comes very close to Bush/Kerry, so it seems reliable. I look forward to seeing his work.

[ Parent ]
wonderful!
 I can't wait to test my gerrymander with it, and tweak it if I have to.  Bush/Kerry is about as close as what a generic Dem-generic Rep gets in Illinois, which is not as blue as NY or MA but about where NJ or WA is.

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Our worst performance this year was comptroller
53-41 loss.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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IMO, Miller was entirely unqualified.
...and his campaign had NO discernible presence whatsoever - no campaign office, no ads, not even a yard sign. Other than serving on the Pension Management committee in the House, his applicable experience - other than being an unremarkably average backbencher seeking a promotion - is, I think, limited. Put those two together, and I'm not surprised that he got his ass handed to him by Judy Baar Topinka. (Not that I think JBT is the best, or anything...)

I think the comptroller's race is actually sub-floor for a competent Democratic candidate...Miller's campaign just wasn't there and gave voters no reason to vote for him. Compare that with JBT who served as Treasurer from 2003-2007 and ran for Governor, I don't doubt that her name rec was also higher.

I voted for Miller's opponent - Raja Krishnamoorthi - in the primary, was fairly disappointed that he lost; lots of Democrats I know voted for Topinka, as did I.


[ Parent ]
1995-2007, that is. nt.


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I'd agree...
besides Judy Baar Topinka is a good candidate.  Even I voted for her, and I generally do not vote GOP for dogcatcher.  Except after the Blago mess, I wanted someone from the opposing party watching over things because I know how corrupt Springfield can be sometimes.

[ Parent ]
This is an impulse that
I really just don't understand. Republicans almost everywhere at least recognize that giving Democrats a foothold in statewide office is just a bad idea. Texas hasn't elected a Democrat statewide since the early 90s. Yet Illinois and California have continued to almost consistently.

At least we have New York. . .


[ Parent ]
Well, we control all statewide elected partisan offices in quite a few states
Hawaii, California, Oregon, Minnesota, West Virginia, New York, New Hampshire (only governor is elected, apparently), Massachusetts, Connecticut, and RI if you count Chafee as a Dem.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
JBT is relatively harmless.
She's been around forever, and having lost for Governor against Blago, she shouldn't be running for anything else anytime soon.

I voted for Robin Kelly for Treasurer for exactly the reason you cite - Dan Rutherford doesn't need a springboard to vault to higher office in four years, which I'm now more than certain he'll do after his civil unions vote.


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I already complimented the map
and thanked you for posting it.  Its amazing use of technology-this whole is quick amazing.  

I really don't have any special insight into what the final Illinois map will look like.  As I said downstate the interests of particular state legislators will be key.

I could be wrong but I don't think we will see 9 districts with parts of the city of Chicago.  Just a guess and I am wrong there I will be the 1st to come and say so.  In 2000 cycle Chicago impacted 7/19 and now with a population decrease it impacts 9/18.  I might add

I could be wrong but my personal guess is CD4 will be over 70% hispanic and will not leave Cook county.  Just a hunch.

Not a VRA issue but one of those Chicago things.  We might not get to 60% AA-most not be possible-but in the upper 50% for Davis Rush Jackson.  I believe they could keep their seats at 53% (as much as any congressman can be secure from intraparty challenges)but these are AA congressman and Chicago congressman. They will vote for Chicago voters.  Again if I am wrong I am wrong.  

This is not a comment on how good your map-its good-its a killer map for the D's.  Lets just check back in 9 months to see what the democrats in Springfield pass.


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That would be too cautious
and the national party would throw a hissy fit, given the lack of redistricting opportunities elsewhere and the fact that we might well get screwed in NC.  I don't think OH is a problem because they can't subtract us down to just 3 seats; MI and PA ditto - they screwed with us big time 10 years ago so those maps will be status quo antes.  TX might be annoying but it could also be a dummymander if they overreach.  

So I expect an aggressive map out of IL - especially given that this is a state given already to playing dirty politics.  It's in Madigan's DNA and given that he's been Speaker of the IL House (or minority leader the one term the GOP captured it after 1994) since 1982 (!!!), he has the clout to tell the three AA congressmen to knock it off if they complain.  


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Cool
I like this map. I'm not really a redistricting guy but I can tell this is a fair gerrymander. Not one that's going to cause too much trouble for us PR wise and it seems fairly solid to me.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

I think an interesting exercise
would be to take this map and give the Republicans one strong district back. As we all know, there is a fine line between effective gerrymandering and overreach.  

were I to entertain that...
It would be the maintain the 10th largely as is, or maybe a few tiny tweaks like give it back Wilmette, etc.  That would then ensure that Jan Schakowsky and Mike Quigley weren't adversely affected at all as opposed to somewhat under my map.  Drawing the 14th Democratic doesn't affect any currently-existing Democratic incumbents as it effectively destroys a decades-long GOP gerrymander in northern Illinois to split the cities in multiple district.  The Will County seat doesn't adversely affect either of the two AA seats - their districts just become 20% Republican versus 15% now.  Big deal.  But the swapping of territory between the 9th and 10th might cause problems for Schakowsky, although I don't think so.  

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Good thoughts
Once we get partisan data, I think I'll try some drafts of my own. (Naturally I would have anyway!)

[ Parent ]
I'm actually
playing right now with a Wyoming scenario of Illinois... 24 districts back like in the 1970s.  You can make 2 Hispanic seats easily and add a 4th AA seat to the mix without endangering anybody (although I haven't tried to carve up Chicago yet).

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