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SSP Daily Digest: 12/1

by: Crisitunity

Wed Dec 01, 2010 at 3:35 PM EST


AK-Sen: The state of Alaska is intervening in the Joe Miller state-level lawsuit over the counting of write-in votes, asking for an expedited ruling. They'd like the whole thing to be over and done with by Dec. 9, so that there's no delay in seating Alaska's next (or same) Senator. The state's filing also, amazingly, says that the court should find for the state "unless Miller provides proof to back up claims of fraud." Actually provide proof of something?!? Sounds like a bunch of lib'rul elitists with all that emphasis on "facts," instead, of y'know, common sense.

IN-Sen: Richard Lugar is pretty much daring a tea-partier challenge at this point, gladly painting his own target on his back with his own paintbrush. He was the only Republican up in 2012 who voted "no" on the proposed earmark ban that didn't pass the Senate yesterday. (Seven other GOPers voted no, but they aren't up this cycle and are from the already out-and-proud porker side of the party anyway, like Lisa Murkowski and Thad Cochran.) Perhaps most galling to the teabag set, Lugar actually invoked Article I of the Constitution in doing so.

MI-Sen: While everyone waits on Peter Hoekstra to see if he runs, a random rich guy who's been a big behind-the-scenes donor for the Republicans is making some noises about a 2012 bid against Debbie Stabenow. Tim Leuliette has been "considering" the race and calling around to gauge support. Interestingly, his job until October was CEO of an auto parts distributor, Dura Automotive; wonder how he'll spin the Obama administration's auto industry bailout (without which he'd probably be wearing a barrel and selling pencils on a street corner).

WA-Sen: I know everyone here likes maps (especially maps with lots of blue on them), so here's an interesting one that shows just what any Republican running statewide in Washington is up against: it's a precinct-by-precinct map of the three Puget Sound counties (King, Snohomish, and Pierce) showing how they voted in the 2010 Senate race. Seattle (which is about 10% of the state's total vote) has simply become the nut that's impossible for Republicans to crack; Patty Murray got 82% of the vote there, and lost 1 out of 960 precincts.

LA-Gov: A survey from Southern Media & Opinion Research (mmmmm... smores) shows Bobby Jindal's popularity coming down to relatively normal levels from its extreme highs back of his initial years, just in time for his re-election bid in 2011. He has a 55% approval, compared with 77% in 2008, and his re-elects are 39/35, not that there's much of a compelling Democratic bench here anymore to take advantage of those undecided voters. Interesting post-script: the survey was paid for by random rich guy Lane Grigsby, whose individual IEs almost single-handedly defeated Don Cazayoux in LA-06 in 2008.

MN-Gov: After a second day of recounting in Minnesota, nearly 70% of all the votes have been accounted for. The SoS is saying that Mark Dayton is now down 38 votes from the Election Day totals while Tom Emmer is down 1 (and not going to make up that nearly 9,000 vote margin at this rate). Mark Dayton's team, however, is claiming a net gain of 205 in the recount based on allocation of ballot challenges. Sensing that the recount isn't doing anything to change the outcome, Emmer's team is starting to change the topic to post-recount litigation, perhaps focused on allegations that "reconciliation" (matching the number of votes to the number of voters in each precinct) wasn't properly done. Dayton has raised $1 million so far purely to fund the recount, and Emmer isn't far behind in fundraising.

VT-Gov: Brian Dubie isn't looking like a likely candidate for the GOP for 2012, as he's taken an informal post in the administration of his former foe, incoming Dem Gov. Peter Shumlin. He'll be the state's de facto "ambassador" to its big neighbor to the north, Quebec. In comments, doug tuttle has a list of potential other GOP challengers next cycle, with Dem-turned-GOPer state auditor Tom Salmon at the top of the list.

NY-01: It looks like we're finally getting some movement on the challenged ballots part of the equation in the 1st, which is all that remains to be resolved. The tally will begin today, with slightly over 2,000 ballots to be decided (although both parties, meeting with a local judge, have agreed to withdraw around 200 challenges and proposed another 200 withdrawals -- including the notorious challenge to a group of 31 SUNY-Stony Brook students). Tim Bishop's lead is currently 215 votes, and the majority of the challenges have come from Randy Altschuler's camp. UPDATE: Based on today's activity so far, Bishop's camp is actively pushing the journalistic powers-that-be to call the race. Bishop's camp says he picked up an additional 20 votes today. There's also a stack of 162 valid ballots that haven't been added to the count yet that will add another 12 to Bishop's lead. Altschuler has only 1,149 challenges remaining, 649 of which are based on residency.

OR-St. Sen.: Ordinarily, a recount in a state Senate race, at this point, would be too far down in the weeds for even our purposes. However, when it has the potential to flip the chamber, it's worth a mention. The GOP is seeking a recount in SD-3, centered on Ashland in southern Oregon, where incumbent Dem state Sen. Alan Bates beat Dave Dotterrer by 275. It's outside the auto-recount margin where the state would pay for it, but the cost is only $15K-$25K for the state GOP, so it's low risk, possibility of high gain: if somehow they turn the result around, it'd drop the chamber to a 15-15 tie instead of the 16-14 current Dem advantage.

Mayors: As far as mayoral races go, Chicago seems to be taking up all the oxygen, but there's a number of other important ones this year. Denver was already scheduled to be up this year in May, but it takes on new importance with popular incumbent John Hickenlooper about to take over as Governor (at which point the deputy mayor will take over for five months). One candidate with a locally-big name has already announced: state Sen. Chris Romer (son of former Gov. Roy Romer).

Passages: Finally, condolences to the friends and family of Democratic ex-Rep. Stephen Solarz, who represented parts of Brooklyn from 1974 to 1992 and who just died at age 70. Solarz was a major force in foreign policy circles until check-bouncing and redistricting brought his ascendancy to an abrupt end. If you haven't already read Steve Kornacki's fascinating profile of Solarz -- including his relationship with Chuck Schumer, and the confirmation that, no matter how big a deal you are within the Beltway, all politics is ultimately local -- read it now.

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I'm meeting the freshmen tonight!
Apparently the JFK Library in Boston hosts a New Members of Congress dinner every two years, and I was somehow able to get a ticket to this one. This is part of a four-day event put on by the Kennedy Library and the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard (yeah, we like the Kennedys here) that focuses on policy. It isn't required but a good number of the freshmen are expected to be there.

I'm making a list of new members that I'd like to seek out tonight.......do you guys have any burning questions for one of the freshmen I can ask for you? And yes, I will absolutely try to get a picture of Frederica Wilson's hat.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


Lucky!
I'd definitely try to meet Sean Duffy and Jeff Landry (just cause he's from La though, and I love his accent!)  

[ Parent ]
ok
Ask Rick Berg and/or Kristi Noem how they think federal agricultural and biofuels policies should be reformed.

41, Ind, CA-05

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Yes, I'm interested in that as well
Also interested in how Reps.-elect Cravaack, Pompeo, Duffy, Benishek, Stutzman, Bucshon, Young, Schilling, Kinzinger, and Walsh feel about it.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

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Wish I saw this beforehand
I detailed the event further down this thread. The only one of those I met was Bucshon, and I wish I had asked him that.  

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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The Brennan Center
has published its 2010 guide to redistricting. Lots of great info about who is responsible for what, and what the rules are by state (in case you forget whether the backup commission in Indiana also handles legislative redistricting).

275 is a lot of votes in an Oregon State Senate race
I'll be very surprised if the recount finds Dotterrer up. I'm guessing that was one the GOP expected to win, but Bates overperformed just enough to pull it out.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

I will say that piece on Solarz
was one of the best I've read in a very long time.  It was like a book I didn't want to put down as it was well written and his story was so interesting.

Ditto.


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a favorite Solarz detail
When he campaigned in 1992 in the now-Hispanic-majority district, he started calling himself "Esteban Solarz."  Not. Kidding.

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Wow
Reminds me of this:
http://www.bluemassgroup.com/d...

Or rather if Connaughton had actually taken the farcical suggestions in comments, then in would be like what Solarz did.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


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Just to add to the first commenters list
In the town with all the gay couples who run bed and breakfasts, the signs would be "Mary With a Z Connaughton".

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Yeah, I agree
That was a great article.

They pegged Solarz right, too: He was a neo-con on foreign policy. Ironic that Schumer voted against the first U.S.-led war against Iraq but for the second.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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MA State House race will literally come down to one vote
The incumbent Democrat, Geraldo Alicea, trails his Republican challenger by a single vote after picking up 3 votes in a recount. He filed a lawsuit today claiming that a ballot cast for him was improperly thrown out. I have no idea what will happen if this ballot gets counted and the race is a tie.

The district is in southwestern Worcester county and is made up of 5 generally Republican towns and one heavily Democratic mill city (Southbridge.)

Link: http://www.telegram.com/articl...

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


I heard
that the State Legislature will probably call a special election if he gets awarded that vote.

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So little time, so much to know!


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when will other MN Republicans
start telling Emmer to throw in the towel? I understand that the legal delay could give them the trifecta briefly by extending Pawlenty's term, but filing a lawsuit when you're down by more than 8,000 votes is just an abuse of the system. I have to believe it would seriously harm the public image of MN Republicans, not just Emmer, if they encourage him to keep this up.

Two words...
Congresswoman Bachmann.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
A look at some of the ballots challenged by Emmer
http://www.startribune.com/pol...

or

http://theuptake.org/2010/11/2...

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


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brazen
I hope Emmer's political career will be finished by this. Those challenged ballots were a joke.

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Uh
You do realize that Republicans are masters of obstruction, right?

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Where is that elephant icon made up of the word "NO" written many, many times
when you need it?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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But the people aren't going to accept it I don think
I think one thing people hate most in a politician is when they act like sore losers.  Like if they were to push through a budget, they'd cut everything when that isn't what was elected and people will be pissed at the GOP for years.

What I do think the GOP would try to do is do a voter ID law.  They'd be able to pass a law by attaching whatever reforms they decide they want to support finally to reduce fraud and such and then they'll slap voter ID requirements onto it.  That'd be about as risky as they'd go I think.


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NY-1
Tim Bishop bullying the press to call his race doesn't pass the smell test.  

Is there proof of his "bullying"
of the press? All I've seen is an aid saying "Give into the math". How is that bullying?

19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

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Thank you for your opinion
But it's pretty clear that Rep. Bishop did, in fact, receive more votes than Randy Altschuler.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

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still, if bishop won
he did so by under 300 votes.  in this situation it seems like him demanding the race to be settled will accomplish nothing but make him look impatient.  even if he won, it's not like we're anywhere near coleman territory of stringing out an election.  plus, the eventual winner will probably be determined before the new congress convenes so there is little to be gained by demanding a wrap-up.  

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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Bishop leads by 247 and
there are 1,525 still-contested ballots that are awaiting the judge's review. Of those, 1,146 were being challenged by the Republican side and 539 by the Democrats, a differential of 607 favoring Bishop. He will likely win by more than 800 votes.

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still very few votes
i see little reason for him to need the race ended and a lot of risk by demanding a resolution.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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As per Reid Epstein Twitter
#ny01 update: Bishop up 259 at day's end. BOE/attys to examine non-residency challenges tmrw. Judge tells them to go faster.

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running a campaign for two years
Only for it to be dragged on pass Eday would be reason enough for me

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Hmm,
Hiring people to protest the Florida recounts back in 2000 also didn't pass the smell test.

Oh well.  Sucks to be on the losing side, doesn't it?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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In
my doomsday House predicts it came out to an average of 64 seats lost. If Bishop loses then we will have lost 64 seats. I'm still rooting for a Bishop win of course.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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The next Nate!


19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

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Lol
I just got lucky. Normally I'm not very good at predictions. I had us losing CO and NV.    

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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So did Nate!
And you beat him by a good margin with House numbers; I think his final prediction was 54.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Nate's final prediction was 54 or 55
though he did amusingly add that significantly higher or lower gains were possible.

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He had
a lot of crap thrown at him because of that, but I understood where he was coming from. How can a model account for something like Bean's loss? My guess is, it can't, if only because the margin was so small and outside factors can't always have a mathematical representation.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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for me Bean's lost wasnt too surprising
She wasn't on my mental list of seats to watch that night but her district is pretty Republican and she would have lost big to a tier one challenger I suspect.  

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I'm sure the Bishop camp
is happy with your rooting, but the votes are in and have been counted, and it's basically over except for the final crying on the Altschuler side.

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Or if they like election day...
screwed up by 4000 votes again.

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And thus the final crying begins,
thank you.

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As per Reid Epstein Twitter
Bishop up 247 over Altschuler at #ny01 lunch break. Each side dismissed another 80 challenges. Still 1,600 challenges left.

CO mayor
any news on romanoff trying for a consolation prize, or is he not interested in the mayoral race?

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

I wasn't aware the Romanoff was from Denver.
I guess he doesn't have much to lose though if he wants to run for it and is from there.

CO-02 (college)/FL-15 (home).  

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not 100% sure he is
but he represented district 6 and the current person representing that district is from Denver, so i made a logical leap.  

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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Yeah
he's from Denver. I remember talking to a Colorado user who told me he is from there but probably not interested. I wish I remembered the users name, it's someone who's not around a whole lot and I just can't think of it.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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No proof
I have no proof he's not interested, but he's not a managerial/executive sort.  That and he became Senior Advisor with International Development Enterprises (IDE). IDE is a Colorado-based non-profit organization that works in developing countries to create income opportunities and provide low cost water access for rural households.  So, it doesn't look likely from my standpoint.  But, yes, he lives about two miles north of me (or, rather, he did) in the Washington Park neighborhood of central Denver.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

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Update on LA Senate special election
As I said in the weekly open thread, the Senate's only independent member, who was elected over US Rep-Elect Jeff Landry by about 500 votes as a Dem in 2007, resigned last week. I said that state Rep. Simone Champagne (D turned R) would be the Reps strongest candidate, and Bobby Jindal-Scott Angelle ally state Rep. Fred Mills would be strongest for the Dems. Well, both parties got their favored candidates. Both said today they will run, and Mills will be running as a Democrat. I had said he was a possible party switched if Champagne did not run. Despite Mills being very conservative, Champagne probably has the upper hand here because she is a Republican and this is one of the districts in LA that has elected Republicans for a while, not just recently. From 1993-2008, it was represented by Republican Craig Romero, Charlie Melancon's 2004 and 2006 opponent. If Republicans win this seat, which I think is pretty likely, and Sen. John Alario follows through with plans to become a Republican, the Senate would be 22-18 Dem, unless Alario brings pals with him. The special election for this seat, along with Cedric Richmond's house seat, will be Jan 22.  

Who's
running for Richmond's seat?  

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A few names have been thrown around
Some past opponents for example. The only person who has come out and said he is running is Wesley Bishop, a chancellor at SUNO. If I had to guess, I'd say he is the front runner. He ran against Richmond for the open seat in 1999, finishing 4/4. You can read more here: http://www.nola.com/politics/i...

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Thanks.


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Are you
Interested in this seat, because, if so, as more candidates enter, I will post about it here.  

[ Parent ]
Sure
I just wanted the background, there's not a lot of races going on and it's something. Special elections are all we have. I'd love you to post updates, that'd be nice if you can find the time. I find Louisiana politics fascinating.  

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With low-turnout special elections
everything may happen, but yes, i would agree that Republican candidate would be initially somewhat favored here...

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PPP previews MA-Sen
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
Key finding: 53% says Brown's ideology is "about right"  

after a real campaign however
that might change. plus if he's"about right" now, he might not be after voting against possibly popular dem initiatives.  

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
There are rather few such initiatives right now..


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i bet the American people
Support every piece of legislation talked up for the lame duck session.

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Don't speak for all people..
I never try even to speak for majority..))))

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The thing is, the same sentiment existed with William Weld in '96
Brown can win 97% of Republicans and 60% of Independents, but, at the end of the day, he still needs to siphon-off a fair share of Democrats too. I bet Brown's hoping for a gory Democratic primary, ala the '02 gubernatorial showdown. With Obama atop the Dem ballot, turnout will be high no matter what, but if he can get the angry supporters of a losing moderate/conservative Democratic candidate on his side...

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[ Parent ]
hmm
Democrats outnumber Republicans 3-to-1 in the state -- 37 percent of registered voters are Democrats, 12 percent are Republicans and 51 percent are unaffiliated. Obama won the state by 26 percentage points in the 2008 presidential election.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politic...

Seems like you need about 70% of those Independents.


[ Parent ]
Yep.
In addition, Brown is going to need at least 12 percent of Democrats if he wants to have any chance. Even with 96% of Republicans and 66.6% of Indies he still needs about 12% of Dems.  

[ Parent ]
William Weld was much more liberal
than Brown is.

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Yeah
Didn't he back Obama?

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In the general election
He endorsed Romney in the primary

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

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Weld and Brown have different coalitions.
See link for more details(this link was before the special election):http://stevekornacki.blogspot.com/2010/01/three-gop-victory-formulas-in.html

Brown's coalition was a mix between Romney's and Cellucci's.


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Weld's coalition
is impossible to recreate right now for republicans. Seriously, a republican winning Cambridge, MA?

[ Parent ]
thank John Silber for that one. nt


[ Parent ]
That article was a great read
The interesting thing is that Charlie Baker, the nominee against Patrick this year, demonstrated that the Romney coalition alone is no longer sufficient to win a race in MA. Romney's victory depended on the affluent suburbs, but he also held the margins down in Western MA, which Baker failed to do. Of the three, the Cellucci model is the best for the GOP going forward--winning or running close the midsized, blue-collar, culturally moderate cities like Worcester, Lowell, Revere, Braintree, etc. makes life very difficult for the Democrat. Brown was able to rebuild the Cellucci coalition and also win some of the towns Romney brought into the fold, which allowed him to win despite getting thrashed in the West.

And to think that 20 years ago, Cambridge voted for a Republican by 13 points is incredible. Then again, that race was a bit like Chaffee-Caprio. I bet that Chaffee would have run very close to Caprio in Cambridge, even if he was running as an R.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


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I lived in Massachusetts
during the Weld/Silber campaign. Weld was widely regarded to be more liberal than Silber, who wanted to cut welfare to unmarried mothers, and I think was also for the death penalty.

Weld also resigned from the US DOJ in 1988 because of Ed Meese's corruption. That must have endeared him to the many Reagan-hating Democrats in Massachusetts. The episode would have been reasonably fresh in people's memories in 1990.

That's why Weld won Cambridge.  


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Well, Chafee outright won Providence
this year. Something tells me Cambridge would tend towards the more liberal non-Republican candidate, especially if said candidate didn't pick fights with Obama. (Ah, thinking about Frank Caprio's complete and utter failure still makes me smile a month later...)

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I only
know of Caprio what I read here, but it seems nice that he lost. He seemed like a huge douche, if for on other reason than he supposedly flirted with running as a Republican. On the other hand, no matter what you say about his politics, Chafee seems like a principled guy, and a decent one too.  And while I don't know what his future holds beyond his years as Rhode Island's leader, the state is probably better off having someone like him in charge.  

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McMorris Rodgers has baby girl
Cathy McMorris Rodgers became the first member of congress to give birth twice while in office, having a baby girl this morning. http://www.omakchronicle.com/n...

Congrats!


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Good for her.


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Congratulations to Representative McMorris Rodgers!
Best wishes for the child to grow up in a safe, prosperous, and well-managed world.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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On Bayh 2012 speculation...
I've noticed a lot of talk lately about a potential primary challenge to President Obama's right from outgoing Senator Bayh. I meant to post this the other night when the conversation was in full swing here, but my phone wouldn't let me. Just something to note, Evan Bayh has been having health problems relating to his stomach recently, I believe. When Obama vetted him for VP in '08, his team noted he looked sickly, frail, and not up to the task of heavy campaigning. His retirement was spun by himself and the media as a "pragmatic, centrist senator quits politics on account of the endless partisan bickering of Washington" story. It became a tale of the decaying health of the political conversation, and not one about the Senator's health. Though I've heard he's feeling better lately, I wouldn't be surprised if his condition influenced his decision not to seek another term in the Senate, and I would be even less surprised if it dissuaded him from taking on the stress of constantly campaigning against an incumbent president. In case anyone is curious, I read this in Game Change by Mark Helprin and John Heilemann. I it about a year ago, so I'm sorry I can't recall any specifics, but I'm fairly certain they discussed health issues being taken into account when Obama vetted Bayh. A quick Google search yielded nothing, am I misremembering? Does anyone know anything about this?  

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I think serious people are curious if he is running for Governor
Honestly, that is all I am wondering since he is the only person with a chance of winning that Governorship and he still have $10 million in a campaign account.  

[ Parent ]
Hmm…
I honestly don't recall him being ill. In fact I remember seeing him on tv jogging with reporters chasing him down. He was full force 24-7 campaigning for Hillary I know. He'll likely run for Gov in 2012, that's probably why he didn't run for Senate this year.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Bayh
A lot of talk?  Where, and by whom?

Maybe his stomach problem have to do with his conscience bothering him.


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Ensign's
reelection prospects increase. DOJ drops their investigation.

http://www.politico.com/news/s...

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


At least his chances of being the Republican candidate.


19, Self Appointed Chair of the SSP Gay Caucus (I claimed it first :p), male, Dem, IN-09 (College IN-09) (Raised IL-03, IL-09)

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Senate Ethics Committee is still probing...
They could even turf him out before 2012 if they find he violated Senate rules, not necessarily even federal law.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

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RNC woes continue.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

They will have to delay payments to their vendors that were scheduled for this week.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Also
Lugar might vote to end DADT. Not sure if Republican primary voters really care too much about that but Murdock or whoever could make some hay about the earmarks for sure though. Lugar's not acting scared and moving to the right like McCain did, he's not bowing down to pressure. He's got my vote in the primary. If he doesn't end up calling it quits that is. I know he sounds adamant about running but I would not be surprised to see him go out on his own terms. I hope not as I want him to stay on but I would hate to see him end his career losing to a jackass like Richard Murdock, who, as much as I would like to say otherwise, we could likely not beat in a GE unless Bayh ran which will not happen. Ellsworth might be able to keep it competitive, probably in high single digits but I wouldn't expect a whole lot. Murdock is a Jim DeMint wanabee so be rooting for Lugar, he's the best we can get.

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I think he knows
His path to victory is by motivating Dems and Indys to vote in the primary for him, so he is staying who he is. IDK, but for some reason, I feel like Murdock will have some glaring vulnerability that makes him unacceptable to primary voters, like Hayworth did. He just seems like that kinda guy. Do you think Murdock will become the main alternative, or do you think others will enter, allowing Lugar to get through with under 40% of the vote? Like Stutzman, Bates, the state sen, and others? I wonder if Hostettler is interested in running again? The more the merrier!  

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Yeah
I suppose, but voting for the Dream act really pissed a lot of people off I think but he should be able to win in a crowded field. If it narrows down to him and Mourdock or Stutzman then I would be worried. If Stutzman runs then he could knock him off like you said in a crowded field it would be hard. The more that run the likelier Lugar stays put. Again in a two way race Lugar could be in hot water though. Don Bates is not really that serious, I don't think he'll do much better than he did last time. Don't know about Hos, I kid you not someone told me Mike Sodrel was thinking about it, I don't know whether to believe them or not though.    

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
It's only fitting; Sodrel has to run for something. But I'm betting he and Baron Hill run for the same office in 2012...
probably not. Are you going to be voting in the Republican primary?  

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
Nah
Hill's probably not running for anything in 2012. Sodrel is so nutty he probably thinks he can win a race, would be funny to see him run agianst Young, he wouldn't beat Young though. I'll be voting in a the R primary if Lugar is facing a tough race.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
LA-Gov
Jindal will not lose to a Democrat. Not gonna happen. The Dems bench (Caroline Fayard) is in the SoS race. Jindal's biggest threat is Kennedy, who, according to this poll, is the most popular statewide office holder. If he challenged Jindal, he would pick up much of the support from Democrats (since he was a liberal Democrat for many years), independents dissatisfied with Jindal, and moderate Republicans. I think he will run. He is tired being treasurer, and is very ambitious. If he does not run, business man John Georges could be a strong candidate. In 2007, he did much better than expected in the gov race. However, he lost a lot of political capital with his mayor run this year. He came in 3rd place, after starting out as the front-runner (granted, that was before Mitch Landrieu entered), and switched parties for the third time in 3 years (R-I-D). If he ran for gov, he'd probably switch again to I. However, I think, once Jindal started unloading on him, he'd be destroyed. In 2007, he started out running for gov as the conservative Republican alternative to Jindal. Then when he failed to win support, he tried to get Jindal to run on a ticket with him as Jindal's LG. When that didn't happen, he became an independent and ran as a moderate conservative. Then, in 2010, he ran for mayor as the white liberal alternative to Landrieu. He's Louisiana's Charlie Crist. Except he never wins anything.  

Is Fayard def running for SoS?


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[ Parent ]
Highly likely
Most Dems act like she is already in, and, after one of the Dems other top candidate, with a similar profile to Fayard (Young, wealthy donor dad) became a Republican, the likely candidate became Fayard. I would be, and so would many other people, very surprised if she does not run.  

[ Parent ]
If Kennedy was liberal, as you say
Why did he switch?  I thought only dixiecrats switched from D to R these days....

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Kennedy saw it as his best chance to be Senator. That's what it comes down to
I didn't live in Louisiana before he switched so I can't comment much on how liberal he was (besides him endorsing Kerry).  I remember him being described as a "maverick" though, when maverick still meant a good thing.  

Kennedy so far hasn't shown much interest in running and my money's against him making the jump.  With Jindal losing a lot of his luster I wouldn't be shocked if he makes the jump, but still a bit surprised.  Keep in mind that this will be an all party primary so if the Democrats don't nominate anyone very strong a lot of conservadems/ anti-Jindal Dems could cross over and vote for him.  


21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
I feel like Gov. O'Malley got stuck with a bad cycle
It's going to be so difficult for Democrats to win governorships in Louisiana and Mississippi, and defending Gov. Beshear isn't a job I'd want for a number of reasons these days.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Beshear is actually holding up well.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
At least expectations are low
If Dems hold Kentucky and put up a decent fight in either MS or LA, O'Malley will  be considered a success. And if they lose all three, you can't really blame O'Malley since that's a really brutal area of the country for Democrats right now.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Kentucky
is a likely hold at this point because Beshear is a popular incumbent. But the other two have no Democratic incumbents, in very red states. I predict no turnover.

[ Parent ]
As far as LA Dems go
He was actually pretty far to the left. He ran in 2004 as the liberal alternative to Chris John. He switched because, as I said, he is very ambitious.  

[ Parent ]
Buddy Caldwell looks to be in good shape at least
His approval is 60%.  Of course he's pretty old and very conservative so he's not really the future of Louisiana Democrats.

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Yeah
He should be safe, unless people are just voting against all Ds. He is very conservative for Dems, even in LA, being the first (only?) Dem to join on the Republican AGs' lawsuit against HCR reform.  

[ Parent ]
"except he never wins anything"
would he risk it then?  wouldn't it make more sense for him to wait until 2014 and rematch landrieu, or 2015 and run for the open governor's seat?  can he lose a senate race in 2004 as a dem, 2008 as an R and a gubernatorial primary in 2011 and still be a viable candidate in the future?  

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
That's one of the reasons I feel he won't run
If he loses the Governor's race he's out of a job.  If he runs for reelection he's almost certain to win and live to fight another day.

Of course, one reason he may primary Jindal is that in 2014 and 2015 there will likely be a lot of people running and there's no guarantee Kennedy will even be the Republican nominee, especially with the all-party primary.  If he truly believes Jindal is vulnerable he'll likely be the only strong candidate running.  I personally think he's likely to run for reelection but we'll just need to see.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
is jindal all that vulnerable?
I saw the poll, but it seems more like the media/punitry trying to create a race.  I can certainly see him being weaker than he was earlier, hell most governor's are, but inter primary battles, especially those that happen with governors who won in their own right, usually only occur when their approvals hit low 30's.  

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
If the election was held today Jindal would wipe the floor out of anyone. However...
...there are some reasons to believe he may be vulnerable.  The biggest reason is the state education crisis.  This has been front page news for a while and Jindal does not seem to be coming off well.  Louisianans are conservative but still want education funded and don't seem to be too happy with the draconian cuts that are happening in public universities.  Linked to that is Jindal's frequent out of state trips.  The student body president of LSU seemed to capture a lot of anger when he wrote a letter criticizing Jindal for campaigning in New Hampshire when things were going to hell.  I'll admit I don't have much data to back up my assertions that these things are hurting Jindal (mostly because there isn't much data to provide), but that's what I believe is happening here in Louisiana.  

Kennedy has the all-party primary going for him too.  If Democrats do scrounge up a serious candidate than Kennedy's probably screwed.  But if they don't it's far from inconceivable Kennedy can't forge an alliance of Democrats, independents, and angry Republicans to unseat Jindal.  I don't think this is very likely but if education cuts get worse and continue to be on voters minds in the coming months it very well can happen.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
One other possibility
I have heard nothing of this from Republicans leaders or sources close to Kennedy, just something me and some of my precinct members floated: Kennedy for AG if he's getting bored being treasurer.  

[ Parent ]
He ran for AG in 1991 so I can see it
He's probably the GOP's best shot at winning the seat so I can see it.  Of course if he loses his career takes a hit, but that'll happen if he fails to beat Jindal anyway.  Hmmmm...  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Thats where we
Got the idea from. He'd easily be the best bet, since he already has name rec and a fundraising ability. The other candidates we've been hearing (Serious candidates) have serious baggage, or will not be able to raise the money.  

[ Parent ]
If Kennedy is so popular
why wasn't he able to dispatch Landrieu in 08?

[ Parent ]
good dem year
plus he might have done more to become popular in the aftermath.  however, my thought is that he's essentially generic statewide R.  he has neither the high profile responsibilities of jindal, nor the scandals of vitter.  he's an R in a good time for R's, the only people who don't like him are probably the same 30-40% of the electorate that always votes D.

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[ Parent ]
I agree, and I'll also add Kennedy didn't run the greatest campaign ever
I heard he really didn't have much of a campaign infrastructure set up while Landrieu did.  She saw she was vulnerable and worked her ass off in order to survive while Kennedy really didn't.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
IF he does challenge Jindal
would he still do it as a Republican, or do you think becoming an independent would be best for him?

[ Parent ]
I think he'll do it as a Republican
He'll need to attract a lot of Republicans in order to win and switching would hurt that.  Plus switching from D to R to I in only 7 years will make him look like an opportunist
(not that he needs much help with that) and would kill any attempt at a comeback if he loses.  Plus he's in good standing with the party unlike Charlie Crist was so I doubt he feels the need to switch.  A good old fashioned Teabagging could always change that but right now Republicans see him as one of them and he doesn't need to jeopardize that with a switch.

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Good
year, plus Landrieu successfully tared him as an opportunist flip flopper.



19, Male, Independent, CA-12


[ Parent ]
it's got to be awkward
bad mouthing "John Kennedy" like that.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
IN Sen.
I meant to put this in my last thread. Ellsworth is thinking of running for the Senate again. He lost his CD this time, so a comeback there against an incumbent may not be easy. He would be a good nominee to have in case the R primary gets bloody and Lugar endorses him or goes write in. Or just if the new R nominee is not liked. Indiana is really not an extreme state, the last very conservative Senator would probably be Quayle and he wasn't a Tom Coburn either. Bayh Sr. was the last liberal we had as a Senator. Getting back on topic Ellsworth would be a just in case candidate.

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What do you think
the chances of Lugar not being the nominee are? I don't think we'd overtake him if he is the nominee, and nor should we really want to. But if he's not the nominee, it'd be nice to have a solid candidate in order to make it as competitive as possible.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
See above.
In a crowded field Lugar stands a decent shot, in a one on one he's very endangered. Onto the GE realistically probably not good. Depends on how it goes down. If it's a bloody nasty fight and Lugar doesn't take defeat well or the R nominee comes out looking highly extreme then maybe. But if it's clean cut with a fast Lugar endorsement then it will be pretty boring, lean R race. It's nice to have a good candidate just in case though.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
But if he ends up losing the
nomination, what are the chances that it's not bloody? And do these guys hold the sort of positions that would allow them to be defined as extreme?


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Report from the new members dinner
So as it turned out, only 25 freshmen chose to attend the Kennedy program this year, down significantly from past years. This is largely due to the Republican nature of the class--there's not a lot of incentive to go to liberal Boston for a week to be lectured by professors at Harvard in a Kennedy-sponsored program when you're a conservative Republican from the heartland.

I was able to meet 13 of the freshmen, including Bod Dold!, who had the best sense of humor of anyone in the building. He and Terri Sewell--who is the personification of Southern hospitality--were chosen by the class to make speeches, and both were very eloquent. Others that I got to talk to were Hultgren, Keating, Bucshon, Griffith, Long, Barletta, Fleischmann, Benishek and both of the Basses. Sadly, there were no Frederica Wilson or Kristi Noem sightings.

The coolest part for me was meeting Blake Farenthold, who stuck out like a sore thumb but was really a nice guy. He couldn't believe I had ever heard of him, much less followed his race. We got talking about redistricting and the VRA, and I told him I had drawn a majority-minority, 55% McCain district for him. He then asked me to send it to his office so he could compare it to the one he drew (which is majority-Hispanic, 50/50, and reaches up toward Houston.) That pretty much made my night.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


Bod Dold?
I know it was a typo, but that's his name now.

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[ Parent ]
Dammit
Bob Dold! Bod Dold! doesn't make sense, because Bob Dold! is only funny because it makes people think of Bob Dole! who, as we all know, loves to talk about Bob Dole! Bob Dold!

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Nice!
I've met (as in had any sort of conversation with) eight Congressman (not all are still in office) and one future Congressman.

For anyone curious who they were they Mike Honda, Brad Sherman, Joe Knollenberg, Steve Scalise, Joe Cao, Charlie Melancon, John Flemming, Rodney Alexander, and Cedric Richmond.  All but Cao were pretty nice (to be fair I think he had a cold).  Joe Knollenberg was insanely nice and I'll admit I felt kinda bad he lost.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Cool
All the people I met were really nice, especially Randy Hultgren and Terri Sewell. The only exception to this was Caroline Kennedy, who was the MC for the night, but maybe she was just having a bad night. But she kinda reinforced the "arrogant" label that Republicans like to apply to the Kennedy clan.

Cool Sewell story: She managed to drag out of me that I was a Republican, and told me that was fine, because she started her career as an intern for then AL-07 Rep. Richard Shelby! Of course, Shelby was a Democrat then, but she's nowhere near him on the political spectrum and still enjoyed her time in his office.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
Wow!
The event must have been a lot of fun.

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[ Parent ]
You're a Massachusetts Republican though
That's like being a Kentucky Democrat.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
I've met some of those
The LA one's, except for Alexander and Richmond. I met Cassidy. Cao is funny, but he is shy.  

[ Parent ]
Its
a long shot and probably nothing more than a dream, but if Farenthold is impressed with your map, he might arrange for you to be flown down to Austin to meet with the legislature's redistricting committee to compare maps.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
wow
55 is really, really good.

I just gave it a shot. Got to 53% with 56% hispanic just swapping territory from the 15th and 28th.


[ Parent ]
How does that
affect the rest of the districts in the heavily Hispanic south?

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
I'll get around to posting the map eventually
But the general jist is this:

-Cuellar's seat is 63%H, 52% Obama, and runs from Hays County (south of Austin) to Starr County, including Laredo. Th
-Hinjosa's seat is 83%H, 63% Obama, and runs from Wilson County to McAllen. The current seat is 80% Hispanic so it's not that big an increase.
-A new seat is 80%H, 61% Obama, and hugs the coast from the border up to Matagorda, bypassing San Patricio and Corpus Christi. This is the spiritual successor to  Ortiz's district, which is 72% Hispanic.
-Farenthold's seat is 48W/44H and snakes from Corpus Christi to the southern limits of Austin.

If the Hispanic percentages of the Hinjosa and ex-Ortiz districts are too high, they could trade some turf with Cuellar, who sees his Hispanic percentage drop from 78 to 63 in an attempt to soften him up without violating the VRA. This goal would be abondoned if it meant protected Farenthold.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
Night of a zillion typos
Ignore the random "Th," and that should be "protecting" not "protected" in the last line.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Wouldn't that be repeating the "fajita strip" mistake
that the Roberts SCOTUS forced them to change along with a few other VRA districts that diluted the Hispanic vote too much?

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[ Parent ]
Not quite
The only district that stretches further north than its current form is Cuellar's, and it still looks much better than the fajita strip 25th did. Hinjosa shifts westward but the overall shape and width of his district is the same. The Ortiz-successor district is ugly, but it has a communities of interest argument that the fajita strip lacked: it unites all the coastal communities of South Texas.

Of course, there was nothing wrong with the fajita strip by itself--if it was alone, it would have been passable. The problem was that the DeLaymander knocked down the Hispanic percentages in TX-23 to below the VRA requirements, and used the Hispanic-majority fajita strip 25th as its replacement VRA district. The court ruled that the 25th was not compact enough to replace the 23rd, which forced that whole map to be redone.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
not that much
They actually become more compact.

Farenholdt (Teal) 54% hispanic, 54% McCain

Cuellar (Purple) 89% hispanic, 70% Obama

Hinojosa (Orange) 88% hispanic, 69% Obama


[ Parent ]
What about the supposedly new districts
that will be created? Aren't at least two, maybe even three, going to be in the Hispanic south, since that's where most of the growth is? Is it legitimately possible for the Republicans to create districts that would either (a) limit the Democrats' strength with voters in that region or (b) give them districts that might make it more likely for Hispanic Republicans to be elected?

I'm sorry if what I am asking is, well, stupid, but I find this stuff very confusing now. I don't think it'd be that hard to learn it, but I don't have the time to spend on it right now. Perhaps in a few weeks that will change, but now, I am relying on guys like you.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
well
I didnt see new populations in Dave's app, so I didn't see a point in trying to draw new stuff.

I think as a general rule of thumb, you want to put Democratic incumbents in the safe districts and draw yourself the new open Republican seats.

From here, I believe you give Charlie Gonzalez a 70+% Obama district in San Antonio, Lamar Smith a Republican district based on north San Antonio suburbs, and the new seat based on West San Antonio and heading south. I'll have to mull it over, though.

I'm pretty sure the GOP has to give up a new seat in Dallas, and a new seat somewhere here in the South region. Then you make yourself 2 new seats in the center of the state.


[ Parent ]
And the VRA doesn't
limit what they can do?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Truly
I am not 100% sure. As long as you keep it majority hispanic I think they are ok.

I think you're giving an opening to people if you switch that from majority Hispanic to majority coalition.


[ Parent ]
Cool
The problem is of course the VRA. My district is majority minority, but it's still plurality white (48W/44H)--obviously not good enough. To compensate, I drew a new Hispanic-majority district next door, there's a new Hispanic plurality district in Dallas, and Lloyd Doggett's district is made majority-minority.

So Hispanics keep their current total of VRA seats, one current district is made majority-minority (TX-25), there is a new Hispanic-plurality seat, and a new majority-minority seat (Farenthold's.) I don't know if that's good enough though.  

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
User MassGOP
with his cred can sooooooooooo get an excellent job on Capitol Hill when he graduates from college.......

[ Parent ]
Sounds amazing
Seeing Noem or Wilson would have made it so much better though! I'm surprised about Bob Dold! He seems kinda boring, but, then again, he did make a campaign commercial with a seal. I wonder if Farenthold used Dave's Redistricting App?

[ Parent ]
Bob Dold!
Also curious about whether Rep.-elect Farenthold used Dave's app, and whether he uses it while wearing his ducky pajamas.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native

[ Parent ]
Cool
Sounds like fun! The most I ever spent with a pol was with LT. Gov elect of Illinois. She was a former professor and a friend with my sister and I happened to be visiting with her and Simon invited my sister and some other people to her house for dinner and I tagged along. It was very fun, I got to talk with her about her dad and she is a very nice woman. I hope she runs for Senate in 2014 if Durbin leaves or in 2016.    

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
KY-Gov
Is the Republican field set, or could there be other, serious, entries? I know there is that county clerk who is flirting with it, but just to get support for an SoS bid.  

Kentucky has a really early filing deadline (January 25)
so any candidate that's not in now has to decide soon.

[ Parent ]
Geez, so soon? when's the primary?


21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
In May, probably.. As usual)))


[ Parent ]
Scott Brown
According to PPP. Brown is beating every Democrat tested by solid to landslide margins. Its viewed favorable by voters across the political spectrum.  

Link
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...

Numbers look pretty bad, and Brown has a ton of money...I'm starting to feel really worried about this one

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)


[ Parent ]
Numbers are better than I expected..
Remember that he still has his honeymoon glow and the GOP is still riding high.

[ Parent ]
Link
http://suffolk.edu/37947.html

Name recognition and actual campaigns can make a huge difference.


[ Parent ]
worried?
We're not losing a seat here, we're just not gaining one. And Harry Reid had numbers like this in 2009, before his approval collapsed and won again only because of Sharron Angle.

We can't determine elections this far out. For all we know, Brown will be in a huge scandal. Democrats looked like they would expand their majority back in 2009 polls, picking up Ohio, Missouri, Kentucky, and New Hampshire, and keep Wisconsin, Arkansas, and Indiana.

Brown may have high ratings now, but you can't give up just like that. Those ratings may last, or they won't.


[ Parent ]
Don't be
During the 112th Congress, which is sure to be marked by rabid partisanship and showboating, Sen. Scott Brown has to walk a razor's edge between being too liberal (and getting knocked off by angry Tea Partiers) and too conservative (and getting clobbered by a mainstream Massachusetts Democrat who actually knows how to run a campaign).

He's popular now because to date, frankly, he's voted more in line with Democrats than Republicans on key issues. The shine will come off that apple during the ugliness of the next two years. I don't see how he gets reelected as a Republican in one of the bluest states in the country if Republicans spend their time in the 112th Congress subpoenaing Obama administration officials, smearing climatologists, and pushing for total deregulation, which is the agenda the incoming House leadership and the Senate Republican leadership has outlined thus far. I suppose I wouldn't be shocked to see him run for reelection as an independent if he sees the writing on the wall in terms of how hard it's going to be to maintain that golden-boy image.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
Not a surprise, really..
His good looks and charm alone net him an easy 10 points. He will not be easy to unseat.

[ Parent ]
My hunch is this is probably Brown's ceiling
Still, those are very impressive #s, and there's no way this is anything better than a bonafide toss-up. Something I was randomly mulling over last night - I bet if Sarah Palin wins the GOP nomination, Brown bolts and endorses Obama. Of course, if Romney's the nominee, he'll probably (half-heartedly) try contesting the state for the GOP.

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[ Parent ]
I honestly don't think
they'd waste their time unless they saw some consistently decent polling and it wouldn't drain that many resources from other states. The extent of their presence in the state would probably be campaign ads aimed at New Hampshire that would air out of Boston. There would at least be a valid reason for that.

I remember reading something during the last election where Romney's people basically admitted, though not loudly, that they wouldn't contest the state if he were the nominee. That's understandable, but still fair incredible. It's even worse for someone like Pawlenty, because he's polling behind Obama at what is probably the low point of his first term. Minnesota is a blue state, but it's not as blue as Massachusetts, so that's even more pathetic. It's really quite amazing that two of the potential Republican nominees would probably lose their own states if they ran.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
Nothing new
Gore and Tennessee, remember? Would have made hanging chads irrelevant and all.

[ Parent ]
Except Gore came close in TN
And was leading in the state for most of the election. He probably could've won it had they not been asleep at the wheel. They ignored the state b/c they figured Gore had it in the bag.  

[ Parent ]
But there's a big difference.
For Romney to have a legitimate shot in Massachusetts, he'd already have won. It's simply not in the same category as a swing state.

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Romney's not popular in Massachusetts
They've long been over their Romney high.  Heck, they even re-elected the less-than-popular Deval Patric.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
Gallup jobs numbers
http://www.gallup.com/poll/145...

Encouraging. Hopefully good official news tomorrow.

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Is Jim DeMint learning?
He announced today that the Senators his fund will target in 2012 are Tester, Manchin, Conrad, and Ben Nelson. While the NRSC would prefer he stay out entirely, it's better for the GOP that he confines his act to reliable red states and doesn't meddle in places like MO, MI, FL, VA, etc.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

Perhaps
Though I guess there is still the possibility of him supporting people that could cause you problems. Alaska is pretty red and Miller was a mess.

[ Parent ]
His reasoning is bunk though
Sen. Manchin "disobeyed the will of the American people"? It's one month to the day since he was elected statewide in West Virginia by a 10-point margin over the duly nominated Republican John Raese.

Sen. Ben Nelson, he has an argument, and I haven't seen approvals for Sen. Conrad in too long to judge, but Manchin just won election quite convincingly, and Sen. Tester remains quite popular in light-red Montana.

20, center-left independent, Auckland Central resident, MD-05 voter, OR-01 native


[ Parent ]
"Manchin defied the will of the people"?
Yo, Demint, think about the voters in your own state for once.

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[ Parent ]
He never said
He would not get involved in FL, MI, MO, VA primaries. He just said his top target Democratic incumbents were those who voted against the earmark ban. I still think he will endorse Haridopolos or Rooney in FL, Steelman in MO, and stay out of VA. He won't endorse against incumbent Sens, and I don't think he'd endorse against a former Senate colleague.  

[ Parent ]
McCaskill voted FOR the earmark ban.
See: http://senate.gov/legislative/...

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[ Parent ]
WTH is
an earmark moratorium such a sticking point now?

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[ Parent ]
DeMint
Manchin will be voting with DeMint on alot of things and I think Conrad and Webb will retire.  

Not yet he hasn't
Besides, he would still be a target even if he voted every time with the GOP. You could be right on ND and VA.

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I'm not sure on Conrad or Webb
Conrad has a chairmanship and he isn't that old.

Webb is probably thinking it over, but after those positive numbers, he might be leaning towards running.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Thanks for your comment on Manchin.
I'll be duly concerned.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Oh, JxRav is pretty openly a Republican, and...
...is not new here to posting smack.

That's the one thing I don't like about SSP.  I hope the new GOP counterpart gets going and the Republicans gravitate over there.  Campaigns and elections are not bipartisan.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Yeah, I'm fine with massGOP and GOPVoter
and some of the other Republicans who post a little less frequently, but I often feel like some of the Republicans here are trying to tiptoe a fine line between pissing everybody off and avoiding the moderators' punishment.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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One change to your comment makes it 100% correct......
Delete "I often feel like" and you're 100% right.  Some definitely do that, taking advantage of a longer leash here for Republicans than any other Democratic or liberal blog offers.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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Too soon.
Stick around, Danny, and get a feel for things in DC first.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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good luck with that
Florida has a lot of Republican Representatives that are going to be gunning for that seat.

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When was the last time a first term Congressman succesfully ran for the Senate?
Michael Huffington came close in 1994 but I can't think of anyone who ever won.

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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If a first term Senator can be elected president
Anything is possible.

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Rod Grams in MN was one
He was elected to the House in 1992 and then won a Senate seat in 1994.  

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See also the spectacular success that was Denise Majette for Senate '04
n/t

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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Sam Brownback
elected to the House in '94 and the Senate in '96

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It was a special electon
to replace Dole.  Brownback beat Dole's aide in the primary.  Sad times when level-headed conservative Dole is replaced by an off-keel evangelical who pushed abstinence programs in Africa to stop the spread of AIDS (you can imagine how that worked out).  I read all about Sam in The Family.  The author had some interviews with him.  Brownback, a practicing Catholic, goes to Church on K Street run by the Catholic sub-group called "Opus Dei."  Some days, the only thing Brownback has for lunch is the Host (i.e. communion wafer) at the Church before driving back to the Capitol.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Not even sworn in yet and already looking for a promotion
He should at least try to focus on the job he's about to take on before starting another campaign.

24, male, African-American, CA-24, Democrat. Chair of the SSP Black Caucus.

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Random Thought
Rep. Peter King just said on the House floor that he would be voting against censure for Rep. Rangel.

I was trying to figure what his motive(s) might be for that (aside from being in the same state delegation and being friendly with Rangel) -- in return for King's vocal support, might Rangel exercise his clout in Albany to help ensure King's district isn't eliminated?

Or maybe King just thinks it's the right vote. But it's more fun to speculate about ulterior motives.

20, GOP, NH-02


There's no way King's district would be eliminated
Nor would it be diluted at the expense of the adjacent Democrats. Heck, if anything were to happen to it, they would try to pack some more Republicans into the district.

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Last January
There was a redistricting contest on here to see who could sqeeze the most safe D seats out of New York, and one of the criteria was screwing with King. And a lot of people did a really good job with it, drawing spaghetti strand districts into Queens.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Yes, but there isn't going to be a Democratic trifecta, so that won't happen.


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Can
someone find me a roll call on the tax cut vote today? I hate to ask for it here but for some reason I can't find it. Thanks.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

Thanks
Happen to have one for Rangel?  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Interesting how that vote went
As expected, a good portion of the No votes were from members of the New York Delegation and the CBC, both of which had publicly expressed support for Rangel. Most of the rest are members of the Progressive Caucus. Aside from Peter King, who has the home-state thing going, the only other Republican no was.......Don Young, who probably realized that whatever he has in his closet is much worse than Rangel's.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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I think the Hill has a GOP bias.
Seriously, I do.  Every title of big news like this are phrased like some GOP talking point memo.  "House passes legislation to extend only some tax cuts".  Wow, actually they extended most of the tax cuts if you look at it by population. 95% make less than that amount and will see no difference in taxes.  And those that make more will still get tax cuts on their first 250K of income.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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