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SSP Daily Digest: 10/14 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Thu Oct 14, 2010 at 4:13 PM EDT


AK-Sen: The story of how his employment with the city of Fairbanks ended is one of the key reasons why Joe Miller suddenly clammed up and said he wouldn't answer questions about his personal background anymore. Now the city's former mayor, Jim Whitaker, is offering his version of the story, saying Miller is "not truthful" about it. Whitaker says Miller's use of borough resources for political purposes (namely, for gaming an online vote for state party chair in a Sarah Palin-orchestrated party coup) was a violation of borough ethics policy and it would have been a cause for termination if they hadn't been so understaffed. Miller eventually resigned in 2009 anyway, partly because his request to go elk hunting got denied.

FL-Sen: There are so many Kennedys I really can't keep track which one is allied with who, but any time one leaves the reservation it's interesting. Robert Kennedy Jr. announced that he's backing Charlie Crist for Senate, saying that Kendrick Meek can't win and the most important thing is blocking Marco Rubio. Meanwhile, with the current race not looking very interesting anymore, PPP has its eye on 2012 (which seems like it could be close, especially if Jeb Bush gets involved). They ran two other hypotheticals, one not very likely: Bill Nelson beats Rush Limbaugh 50-36 (if Limbaugh for whatever reason decided to take the huge pay cut). More plausibly, he also beats Rep. Connie Mack IV by 42-33.

LA-Sen: Charlie Melancon is out with an internal poll from Anzalone-Liszt. Public pollsters have generally seen this as a double-digit race, but his poll, taken over Oct. 9-12, gives David Vitter a not-overwhelming 49-42 lead. The campaign says that's a major improvement (no specific numbers, though) over their September poll.

FL-Gov: The Florida Education Association (obviously a Democratic-leaning organization) polled the gubernatorial race, and found numbers very close to PPP's results yesterday. The poll from Tom Eldon, taken Oct. 9-12, gives Alex Sink a 47-41 lead over Rick Scott. Scott's faves are down to 33/50.

IL-Gov: This is quite the screwup: Green candidate Rich Whitney's name will appear as "Rich Whitey" on electronic voting machines in nearly two dozen wards in Chicago (half of which are predominantly African-American). And that leads inevitably to the question (to quote the Illinois Nazi Party): "Well, what are you going to do about it, Whitey?" Apparently, he can't do much, as there isn't adequate time left to reprogram and test the machines, although he's looking into various legal options.

AZ-07: I don't know if there's any hard evidence other than a Magellan poll and a McClung internal to prove there's a real race here, but judging by efforts by some organizations on both sides, something's going on. The Progressive Change Campaign Committee had members make 21,000 phone calls to the district to shore up Raul Grijalva, while Americans for Tax Reform is going to spend $230K on advertising in the district, hitting Grijalva with an ad for encouraging a boycott of his state in the wake of SB 1070.

CA-44: Like CA-03, this is one offense opportunity in California that still seems to be alive and kicking. The Bill Hedrick campaign, short on cash but facing an underwhelming opponent that he nearly knocked off last time, is out with a Zata|3 internal poll showing Hedrick trailing GOP incumbent Ken Calvert by only a 48-43 margin (improved a 49-38 showing in September).

GA-08: He made it implicit with his most recent ad (distancing himself from Nancy Pelosi, even going so far as to show 60s-era San Francisco hippies), but Jim Marshall is now explicitly joining Bobby Bright in the camp of incumbents saying they won't support Pelosi for Speaker in the next Congress (if they're there for it).

IA-03: I didn't think I'd be saying this a few months ago, but Leonard Boswell is starting to look like he's in healthy shape for the election, thanks in large part of a variety of damaging details about Brad Zaun that went public. Boswell leads Zaun 47-38 in an internal from his campaign, taken Oct. 3-5 by Anzalone-Liszt.

IL-10: Bob Dold sure can rake in the fundraising dollars, even if Bob Dold can't seem to come up with a lead in the polls, in what's looking like one of the Dems' few pickups this cycle. Bob Dold raised $843K in the third quarter and is sitting on $979K CoH, enough to start running two broadcast ads this week, while Bob Dold's opponent Dan Seals has yet to release any numbers. Bob Dold!

MD-01, VA-02, VA-05: Another testament to the unpredictability of elections: even a few months ago, who'd have thought, that at this point, the DCCC would have cut loose Debbie Halvorson and Steve Kagen, but would be keeping on pumping money into the races of Frank Kratovil and Tom Perriello? Those two, along with Glenn Nye, are among the survivors of the triage process and will receive continued ad buys.

NH-02: This race is also turning out to be close, and this can't help Charlie Bass this close to the election: questions are emerging about a stock buy (in New England Wood Pellet, his nephew-in-law's company) that he made while in Congress the previous time. He then set up a meeting between company officials and Bush administration officials, which is a potential House ethics violation.

OH-01: Credit Steve Driehaus for having some fire in the belly. After having gotten thrown onto the bring-out-your-dead cart by the DCCC, instead of just shrugging and starting to look for a lobbying job, he's doubling down on his fundraising efforts, using it as an incentive to ask for more from his supporters. In particular, he's pissed that the DCCC let him go even while giving money to various Reps. who voted "no" on health care reform.

OR-04: Well, here's one more race to add to the watch list. Peter DeFazio hasn't faced credible opposition in... well, ever. And he's still not facing credible opposition this year (Art Robinson is kind of a clown; his main action item seems to be the elimination of public schooling, which would kind of help him out considerably, since his day job is selling curriculum supplies for home schoolers). Nevertheless, the mysterious group Concerned Taxpayers (who've also made a six-digit ad buy against DeFazio) is out with an internal poll from Oct. 4-5 from Wilson Research showing a single-digit race, with DeFazio leading Robinson 48-42. (MoE is a hefty 5.6%.)

PA-10: Chris Carney is on the wrong end of a Critical Insights poll of his district (which will be in our Poll Roundup later), but he's already getting out in front of it with an internal poll. The Oct. 12-13 poll from Momentum Analysis has Carney leading Tom Marino 48-41. With both candidates able to point to leads not just in internal polls but public polls too, this is quite definitely a "Tossup."

TN-08: Whew! One last internal. Not much surprise here... GOPer Stephen Fincher has an internal out giving him a double-digit lead in the open seat race against Roy Herron, very similar to yesterday's 47-37 Penn/Hill poll. The Tarrance Group poll from Oct. 11-12 gives Fincher a 47-36 lead (with 3 to indie Donn James).

FL-AG: This is one of the higher-profile downballot races around, and it gets a fair amount of polling attention too. This time, it's Susquehanna's turn (on behalf of Sunshine State News), and they give a lead to Republican Hillsborough Co. Prosecutor Pam Bondi, who leads state Sen. Dan Gelber 50-42.

Money: Zata|3 is out with more of their super-helpful charts on the behind-the-scenes money game, which is where the Republicans are really winning this cycle, even more so than the polls. Compared with 2008, spending on Senate races (from both sides) has nearly doubled, and it's up more than 50% on House races. And Republican groups are leading the way: the top 5, and 8 of the top 10, outside groups, spending-wise are GOP-leaning. That starts with the cash-flush RGA ($12 mil so far), followed by the Chamber of Commerce and American Crossroads.

Polltopia: You may have already seen the new Pew study on cellphone use, but it's a real eye-opener, one that should cast some measure of doubt on the accuracy of current polls or even the whole sense that polls can tell us anything. Pew, which in 2008 found a certain amount of pro-Republican bias in polls because of the exclusion of cellphone-only users, is out with a new round of polling showing that bias has only increased. At this point, nearly 25% of adults are "cell-only." Pew finds a 5-point Republican increase would have occurred in their most recent generic ballot test if they hadn't polled cellphones.

Also, on the polling front, Daily Kos is taking a page from PPP and asking where readers what gubernatorial and House race they'd like to see polled in the coming weeks.

SSP TV:
AK-Sen: This is actually kind of funny: Joe Miller spoofs Old Spice ads in an attempt to get voters to not write in Lisa Murkowski
CO-Sen: Ken Buck's out with a base-rallying ad using speech footage of him getting teabaggers fired up about how they got ignored for the last two years and are now out for blood; the NRSC is also on the air, hitting Michael Bennet over his support for the stimulus
MO-Sen: Robin Carnahan's new TV spot pushes back against various Roy Blunt negative ads, especially on the subject of an extended family member's wind farm
PA-Sen: This may be an interesting tea leaf that those Dem internals yesterday may be showing some actual tightening: the NRSC, after letting surrogate orgs do all the work here, is finally having to step in with its own IE ad (a basic HCR/stimulus/cap-and-trade troika)
WV-Sen: The DSCC goes after John Raese again over the minimum wage
CA-Gov: What is this, the 80s? Meg Whitman's new ad hits Jerry Brown for being soft on crime
TX-Gov: Bill White's newest ad goes after Rick Perry's seeming habit of steering state contracts to cronies

Rasmussen:
AK-Sen: Scott McAdams (D) 27%, Joe Miller (R) 35%, Lisa Murkowski (WI-inc) 34%
CA-Sen: Barbara Boxer (D-inc) 49%, Carly Fiorina (R) 46%
IL-Gov: Pat Quinn (D-inc) 40%, Bill Brady (R) 46%, Scott Lee Cohen (I) 4%, Rich Whitney (G) 2%
NC-Sen: Elaine Marshall (D) 38%, Richard Burr (R-inc) 52%
PA-Sen: Joe Sestak (D) 39%, Pat Toomey (R) 49%
WI-Gov: Tom Barrett (D) 42%, Scott Walker (R) 51%

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I've been enthusiastic about Bill Hedricks campaign in CA-44
But for some reason, It has not caught fire here on SSP.  It's similar to CA-03.  An unpopular GOP incumbent who is ripe for "a-thumpin".

Wish this had got more national attention back in AUGUST.

Hate to say I told you so, but there was no way in Hell Calvert was going to win this easily when he almost lost to someone I didn't even know (AND I LIVE IN HIS DISTRICT!).

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)


Never heard of Wilson Research
They certainly have no track record polling in Oregon.

DeFazio will win going away.


I saw it but wasn't too worried
The best they can do to drive their narrative is spend $178K on ads and then show that they managed to only have their candidate losing by 6?  Weak.

[ Parent ]
Time was long ago
DeFazio might have been vulnerable.  Now like 3 of the 4 districts held by Ds, the 4th is very solid for us (the 5th is decent but I think Schrader wins it).

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Why oh why wasn't DeFazio
chosen for the position of Secretary of Transportation? He would've been perfect.

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Not entirely clear he wants it
Peter is perfectly happy doing what he's doing for now.

[ Parent ]
Earl Blumenhauer is better.
After all, he is a huge bike enthusiast.  ;)
http://www.commondreams.org/fi...
And in case that wasn't clear enough, check out his lapel pin.
http://www.ecotourismconferenc...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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I don't know if it's just me
But the GOP internal offerings this week have seemed pretty weak compared to earlier this cycle.  Now we have TN-08 where they release an internal that... matches up with a public poll.  Kind of makes me wonder if the Penn/Schoen polls represent a worst-case scenario for democrats if they're on par with Republican internals.

CfG similar to Rasmussen in AK
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/p...

Miller 33
Murkowski 31
McAdams 27


[ Parent ]
So what's their spin here?
They would only release a poll if it furthered a narrative. Perhaps it's: "Voting for Murkowski could let the Democrat sneak through"?

[ Parent ]
My thoughts exactly


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Makes no sense
Murkowski would have to be in third for voters to take away that message.  Instead this poll shows she's as viable a candidate as Miller is; it will only embolden her supporters.

I concede they probably intend to further that narrative (this is the CfG we're talking about after all) but they obviously don't know squat about Alaskans' priorities.


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You know its funny
If you look at conservative blogs (i.e. NRO, Hot Air, Red State) they seem as horrified that Murkowski could win this as McAdams. Why, I'm not sure, given that Murkowski was a pretty darned conservative senator and has already says if she wins she will caucus with the Republicans.

But hey, if the crazy tea that is Joe Miller is your only flavor, more power to you. The only reason McAdams is even in this is because Miller won.  


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Repubs are playing offense this year.
They feel that they can afford ideological purity. Contrast that with Democrats like myself, who are being surprisingly non-ideological, because Democratic party is playing defense.

I find myself rooting for Rep. Bobby Bright and Rep. Walt Minnack, when honestly, I probably wouldn't vote for them myself. The only way I'd ever is if I were trying to prevent some worse candidate from winning.


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Time to roll out the best DavidNYC quote ever
It's important to remember that to remain a member in good standing of the conservative movement, it isn't enough just to vote a certain way. You have to evidence a very particular tribal belonging - you need to hate the right people, be ignorant of the right facts, be fearful of the right bogeymen, and be arrogant about the whole enterprise. If you somehow fail this tribal litmus test, it doesn't matter how right-wing you are - that's how, for example, a wildly conservative guy like former Rep. Chris Cannon could lose a primary to another wildly conservative maniac.


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Re
Because Dems weren't horrified Lieberman might win once he lost the primary? Come on, at some point we have to be consistent and fair here. Murkowski got her seat handed to her by her father, lost the primary and is now running an independent campaign. Of course Republicans should be angry.

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Since when did those eejits
Ever make sense!

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But I wonder
This might actually backfire badly, this poll shows McAdams a viable candidate, I wonder if there aren't some Democratic-leaning Independents supporting Murkowski who might take a second look at McAdams.

Just a thought, but I could totally see this blowing up in their faces.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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A lot of Alaskans are scratching their heads right now
wondering whether their preferred candidate (be it McAdams or Murkowski) can defeat Miller, their most detested.  One thing these polls have made clear is that Miller cannot command a majority.

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McAdams best bet is to try to surge the last 10 days or so......
If he can start making his move less than 2 weeks out, he can peak at just the right time, with too little time for the two Republicans to attack him.  It's the Scott Brown/Creigh Deeds approach of taking advantage of being left alone for so long.

But if a poll or two comes out too soon showing McAdams challenging for 1st place, then both the others start attacking him and might have enough time to knock him back down to where he can't win.

Of course, all this could be just wishful, as we just as easily could end up seeing the same results on election day as in today's polling, with no movement between now and then.

But hopefully McAdams can get soft Dems and leaners to break toward him late.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
You called this one of the Dems best pickup opportunities
weeks ago and I thought you were nuts.  Now not so much.  McAdams has almost a 2-1 favorable/unfavorable ratio with a lot of room to grow.  He's been smart to play the quirky/likable card while the other two pummel each other.  Keeping my fingers crossed here.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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My argument at the time was simple and still applies now......
I based my argument on the fact that the major party nominees were unknown, and that inherently makes for a volatile race.  It's actually similar that way to ME-Gov this year, which has had a lot of volatility in the polling with high undecideds.  But AK-Sen is even more volatile because the nominees emerged very late in the cycle, and had barely campaigned at all before the general electorate until a couple months out.

This all contrasts will ALL our other Senate races, where candidates have campaiged hard and ads have been flying for many months, and voters are largely familiar with their choices.

I now will go so far as to say AK-Sen is our TOP pickup opportunity, slightly better than KY-Sen.  I say that because for all the material Paul hands us, Conway still can't break through and pull into a tie in the totality of polling.  Conway still could pull it off, I honestly could see a late surge or even an election-night surprise where Conway manages to win.  Paul is that big a turnoff personally, including on things that matter to conservative rural white voters rather than to just base Democrats.

My fantasy at this point is that for an otherwise bad night, we get wins out of Reid, McAdams, Conway, and Bennet.  Those 4 combined with Coons would be good for the country no matter what else happens because it would establish a political narrative that America rejects teabaggers.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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the good news
is that it only says "Rich Whitey" on the confirmation screen -- the electronic ballot screen is correct. Since hardly anyone will vote for him in the first place it doesn't make that much difference. Though he is right to try to get it fixed.



Progressive New Jersey news at Blue Jersey.


First Lady
The First Lady early-voted in Chicago today:
http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

I wish some reporter would have dared to ask her if she voted for Whitey!

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22


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If true, it's a non-issue and he should let it go......
As long as his name is spelled correctly on the ballot screen itself, he's fine.  People won't notice the misspelling on the confirmation screen UNLESS they're LOOKING for it based on what they saw on the news, and even then it won't cause them to change their vote.

And seriously, they probably won't even notice it.  Have you ever taken one of those brain-teaser quizzes where you have to try to find what's "wrong" with a sentence?  There will be little quirks that are hard to find because most people miss them, like the word "and" repeating twice in a row on successive lines of text.  The human brain pften sees what is SUPPOSED to be there, without catching errors.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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your last sentence...
did you misspell "often" on purpose to prove some sort of point?  If so, that was very clever.  If not, your subconscience is working overtime.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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Good catch! That was an honest typo! (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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NRSC turns around and admits that their vendor was responsible for "hicky" ad.
http://voices.washingtonpost.c...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


From Greg Sargent:
The NRSC had previously denied up and down that the committee or its vendor was responsible for the language, instead blaming it on a casting agent that had been contacted by the NRSC's vendor. And for my part, I wrote that until further evidence emerged to the contrary, it was unfair to pin this on them. But the NRSC is now admitting its previous statements were wrong.

The "hick" ad thing is big in WV.  Anyone who is from the hinterlands and Appalachia can tell you that they hate being characterized as "hicks."

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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'hicky' might turn out to be this year's 'macaca'
In that a single word directed at the electorate turned around a Senate race. We'll find out soon!

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So
what brings Dina Titus, Harry Reid and Jan Brewer together? A freaken bridge bypassing the Hoover Dam! (Not election worthy, but its rare if you'll ever see an photo of Reid, Titus, and Brewer together.)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


remember
When the AP actually had editors:

>>After eight years of construction, the dam, which creates a by-pass of Hoover Dam over the Colorado River, will be open for traffic next week.<<

Another dam?  Wow that's big news!


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New WA-Sen Poll
From SUSA:

Murray 50, Rossi 47

Link: http://www.king5.com/community...

WA-07, 34 years old


Yeehaw!
Another SUSA poll showing 18-34 year taking a hard right turn this year.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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A point wider than last time
Not that this means much.

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what is up with that?
I really want to know--it's consistent across so many of their polls.

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They're probably using

landline-only data, ignoring or modelling the cell phone-only population as identical to the landline-onlies.


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NH-2
I'm more optimistic about Anne Kuster's chances everyday. Call me a dreamer.

I figure that she can't be taking the solid majority of undecideds in each successive poll and not win.


My Krystal Ball tells me...
That it's more likely for Kuster to win this open race than for Shea Porter to get re-elected.


21,Democrat, NY-02, male

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Gut feeling
I think you're probably underestimating Porter, just like so many people have from the first. I'm generally pessimistic about the 2010 elections but definitely would not bet against Shea Porter.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Oh, I hope I'm wrong
It would be very, very nice to have two feisty progressive ladies in the NH delegation.

21,Democrat, NY-02, male

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Interesting...
It just occurred to me that if Ayotte, Kuster, and Shea Porter all win this year, NH will have an all woman delegation in both Houses. Combined with the amount of women in New Hampshire's state assembly and Clinton's performance in the primary, I think it would be safe to call it the most woman-friendly state for a politician in the country.

Although, I'm still obviously hoping that Hodes topples Ayotte...

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)


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An all woman federal delegation
That has to be a first.

And if Dems keep the State Senate and State House, the leaders there will be women too!


21,Democrat, NY-02, male


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Maine is the closest
3 out 4 are women in their delegation.  The New Hampshire State Senate is the only state legislative body in the country ever to have a female majority, which it gained in 2008.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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No dream, it's clear-cut that Kuster is in stronger shape of the two......
It's completely irrational on the part of voters as far as I'm concerned.  I see Shea-Porter and Kuster as clones, they are both women of the same politics.  And I like them both a lot.  But one is in stronger shape specifically because she's NOT the current/former incumbent.

It's a frustrating, to me, reality of democracy that voting behavior in tough times is based on tantrums more than reason.  As The Who sang--

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

                     * * * * * *

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Everyone complains "throw the bums out," without thinking about what they really want or what they're likely to get.

I hope we can pull out one of these seats, and if we get only Kuster in a year like this I'll take it, but it would be nice to save Carol, too.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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HI-Gov
Rasmussen has Abercrombie up 49-47 which is similar to PPP and the 47-44 out earlier today.

http://www.rasmussenreports.co...


Now, if we could only make...
...Hanabusa catch out a little bit of a lead in HI-01. Then I'd feel better.

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she's led in two
other polls. PPP and DCCC did polls showing her ahead. And she outperformed her polling back in June. While Djou could still win, I'd put my money on Hanabusa.

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I still expect
an Abercrombie win. It'll be narrower than we thought, but he's ahead in every poll with 2 weeks left. And with voting starting soon, he'll probably win narrowly.

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Hawaii's enthusiasm gap is by FAR the biggest in the nation, as shown by PPP
(of the 23 states that PPP has recently polled in). http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
I just don't understand why that should be happening in Hawaii of all places.
(It can't be ALL chalked up to the usual: oh it's hard to poll HI, and hard to poll Asian women, etc.)

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Hopefully Obama does an ad
Like the one for Richmond.

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Im sure he'd campaign there
if it weren't a however many hour flight.  He could do three states in the time it takes to get to Hawaii.

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The native son
was on the ballot two years ago. So what we're seeing here is a reversion to more typical enthusiasm levels for the state. This is basically the same point Jensen made in his post.

Note, too, that Alaska has the biggest enthusiasm shift toward Dems this year. That's also likely due to a reversion to normal patterns, now that Sarah Baracuda isn't on the ballot.


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that's one point ive wondered
Is there an actual enthusiasm gap or did 2008 simply set the bar too high?

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McAdams
   I am really starting to think McAdams could slip through.  Both Miller and Murkowski are at the perfect levels of support to get screwed by a well-liked insurgent.  What is Joe Miller doing with his money?  Is he going to release attack ads against Murkowski?  I hope so.

24, Male, GA-05

Every Election Cycle......
....Alaska voters are about 10 points more Republican on election day than they were in the polls leading up to election day.  Unless McAdams starts cracking 40%, I wouldn't be preparing for a victory here.

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Not true
Just checked Tony Knowles last two elections -- they were off by maybe a couple of points in one direction in '06, and in the other direction in '04.  

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Every Poll In 2004 Showed Knowles Beating Murkowski....
Yet Murkowski won by five points.  I can't recall the poll spread between Palin and Knowles in 2006, but obviously Ted Stevens and Don Young massively exceeded expectations in 2008.  That's two out of the last three election cycles, perhaps not enough for a solid case study, but I nonetheless have a hard time seeing McAdams finishing with five points of either Murkowski or Miller.

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Wow, talk about rewriting the past
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...

All polls amounts to three pollsters (and one of them showed Murkowski leading by 5). The race wasn't polled that much, and there were only 3 pollsters (and only 1 nonpartisan pollster).

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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I Guess I Wasn't Paying Attention To The Partisan Polls.....
....but the public polls all showed Knowles leading just as I suspected.  But please don't insult my intelligence.  I was here back in 2004.  Everybody was shocked when Murkowski pulled it out.

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The last poll taken by a nonpartisan pollster (and again, the only one)
It's ridiculous to make the claim that "every poll in 2004 showed Knowles leading Murkowski" as though there were a whole bunch of polls of the race, there weren't. One pollster in 2004 is not enough to make a claim like yours to discredit the claim about 2008 being a really crazy year in Alaska.

And, with all due respect to this site, the reaction of the commentators of a Democratic-leaning site is proof of nothing.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Were you paying attention when Uncle Ted
went on the air in the last week of the campaign and told Alaskans only Lisa [as a member of the majority party] could keep the pork flowing?  You may have been here on SSP, but I was in Alaska and the result didn't surprise me at all.  Neither did the Begich/Stevens result in 2008 (though in fairness, Young did).

Pork is king.  Don't underestimate it.


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Not true
1) Knowles/Murkowski 2004, ref http://www.realclearpolitics.c...

The last poll listed had Murkowski up 5.

2) Knowles/Palin 2006, ref
http://www.realclearpolitics.c...

The average spread was also about 5.

2008, as noted by others was an exception, enhanced by Palin atop the ticket.


[ Parent ]
Incorrect on both counts
Murkowski 48-43 Knowles: Final poll released in 2006 (McLaughlin, 10/28-29)
Murkowski 48.6-45.6 Knowles: Election result (that's Murkowski +3, not +5)

Furthermore, Knowles never led outside the MoE, and only 1 of 5 polls (from September) had the final result outside the MoE.


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Link please
for your "every election cycle" claim.  2008 was hardly a typical election cycle in Alaska, with a "native daughter" on the national ticket and 75 years of Congressional seniority at stake.  Emotions ran high, and there were a lot of last-minute decisions made in the voting booth.

As an avid follower of Alaskan politics, I've been one of the most bearish voices here on McAdams' chances since the 3-way race took shape.  Let me make a positive statement about him for once: if the totality of polling going into the election shows McAdams at 40%, he'll win.


[ Parent ]
Maybe a better explanation for 2008
was some sort of Bradley-like type of effect (although Ive heard the original effect has been debunked).  People were embarrassed to admit they wanted to vote for him over the phone due to his legal troubles but in the booth they did as they pleased.

[ Parent ]
Yes.
I am getting sick and tired of this Bradley effect. It was a combination of factors: Bradley's endorsement of Prop 15 (gun control), not taking advantage of the just-relaxed rules on absentee ballots while the Deukmejian camp took full advantage, and low black turnout especially in the Bay Area. A couple of weeks ago in the open thread I wrote out a scenario of Bradley winning by staying neutral on Prop 15 and taking full advantage of absentee ballots to get more black voters to vote and winning narrowly.

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Yeah
We just need to start calling it "social desireability bias" ... less pithy perhaps, but more accurate.

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While we've disagreed on McAdams' chances, I agree with you 100% that 2008...
...was atypical.

I shake my head that people talk about Alaska having a "history" of bad polling based on ONE bad polling cycle combined with a NAKED ASSUMPTION that somehow the same was true before.

I don't doubt that Alaska is hard to poll because the voters are so dispersed and harder to reach outside the few population centers.  But that doesn't establish that polling that happens there is necessarily untrustworthy.  We need more bad polling for this cycle and maybe even a 3rd cycle before we can safely reach that conclusion.

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Me too.
I had been thinking since the primary that McAdams could slip through and not just by him localizing/Miller nationalizing, but if he and Murkowski attack each other, all the better!

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Wait...
Rasmussen has Scott McAdams within striking range.  As Kos (or someone on kos' front page) said, something may be happening here.  Awesome.

Pelosi and Hoyer
Hear me out for a second.

If Democrats manage to cobble together a tiny majority in the House next Congress, one wherein some conservative Dems wont vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker, could Pelosi and Hoyer switch places?

House Speaker Steny Hoyer and Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi?

Isn't the majority leader elected by the majority in the party caucus (which Pelosi probably would have), but the Speaker is elected by the whole House (which Hoyer probably would have)?


Demote the highest ranking woman in the US?
Are you kidding? It'd be like collapsing the glass ceiling on women everywhere.

For Pelosi, I believe it's either Speaker, Minority Leader, or retirement.

If it's retirement, I think another woman has to be placed high up in the leadership (Speaker/Minority Leader or Majority Leader/Minority Whip) if we expect to keep the gender gap in our favor in future elections.


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Disagree
Women voted Democratic long before Nancy Pelosi became Speaker. They vote on the issues not identity. Otherwise Obama would have struggled after beating Hillary. Palin didn't help McCain either.

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It's not like Obama overthrew Hillary as the nominee
He won the nomination fair and square. Nevertheless, there was bitterness, as evidenced by the PUMA faction.

In any case, Hillary worked hard to make sure Obama did not struggle among women, and was appropriately rewarded.

In addition, there's never been a woman in such a high-ranking position before.

I'm not saying that the gender gap would be reversed. But if Pelosi were forced out (without appropriate compensation in terms of an appropriate replacement high in the House leadership, i.e. #1 or #2 in the D hierarchy), I think the ads about hypocrisy towards women would write themselves.


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Because the Republicans are really in a position to talk about that...
I don't think it's a good idea to force out Speaker Pelosi, but some crazy backlash from women isn't one of them.

As for the PUMA faction, they were a joke from day one.

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[ Parent ]
Well, that was that painfully dirty primary
in Texas which has curiously slipped people's minds.  It showed that the conservative establishment of the Party was largely on Obama's side.


[ Parent ]
A gentle warning
The moderators hate any sort of discussion of the Obama/Hillary primary. There was a derail a week or two ago that led to one user getting suspended, and I don't think anyone wants to see that go down again.

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[ Parent ]
It was not my intent to rehash the 2008 primaries
I recognize that's against the rules of the moderators here. I therefore tried to focus on the effects on future congressional races.

I can see now that it's not good enough to "just" relate such events to my views on the effects on congressional elections,

specifically when there are allusions to such old battles. I thought I could avoid it by being specific about potential effects on congressional elections.

It didn't work, at least here.


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It's hard for me to see it...
...as an abhorrent demotion.

[ Parent ]
Is Hoyer that big of a backstabbing douche he'd do that to Pelosi?


[ Parent ]
Yes
They don't really get on from what I understand.

[ Parent ]
Pelosi
backed Murtha for majority leader back when Dems retook the house. But they've mostly smoothed over any lingering tensions from what I've heard.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Never underestimate the thirst for power


[ Parent ]
no
Hoyer and Pelosi literally grew up together in Baltimore. They've known each other longer than their spouses. Their bond is pretty unshakeable, and the Maj Leader thing was pre-arranged to give her more cred with the conservadems.

[ Parent ]
I'm, of course, talking...
...about this being agreed to by both Pelosi and Hoyer. In other words, I'm talking about it as a positive thing to keep Pelosi in the loop if she doesn't have enough votes to be Speaker.

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How would that scenario make him a backstabbing douche?
The smaller the majority, the less polarizing the Speaker should be.  It should be obvious that the person put up for Speaker of a party with a 100 seat majority should almost never be the same person as put up by a party with a 1 seat majority.

If Dems have a 2 or 3 seat majority, Pelosi must not run for Speaker.  That would be douchey.


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I have a great idea!
Here's a good idea for a Speaker if Pelosi decides not to run: Marcy Kaptur.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
There's be a revolt
Marcy is pro-life.

[ Parent ]
Yes, but she can easily compromise on that
as opposed to Stupak.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Not at all...
During HCR, she was part of the Stupak bloc, and held out almost to the very end. I think she announced her Aye vote the day before the bill came to the floor.

[ Parent ]
Reid is also pro-life
nt

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But flexible
And the Senate is a much different animal than the House. The House Progressive Caucus is very large - and wouldn't abide that.

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Joe Miller
Is this dude truly that much of a hypocrite or does the news media only report negative stories about candidates?  I'm hoping McAdams slides through here, but I have my doubts.  It is a little sad that we have a better shot of winning Alaska then beating one of the architects and biggest cheerleaders for comparative advantage and free trade in Rob Portman.

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If he wins
Perhaps Begich can pull a Kent Conrad.

[ Parent ]
Meaning what exactly?


[ Parent ]
Retire in 2014
And run against Miller in 2016.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K...

I had no idea his first name is Gaylord!


[ Parent ]
You mean, retire after a term
and then run for the other Senate seat two years later? Why on Earth would he do that?

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--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Miller would easier to beat


[ Parent ]
Conrad pledged to serve only one term
Begich made no such pledge, and if he cares about the Democratic Party, he will try to get reelected and let someone else run against Miller, or run himself, if defeated for reelection.

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[ Parent ]
Small correction
Conrad made a pledge stating something like if the federal deficit wasn't lowered he by the end of his first term he would not seek re-election. Agree that the Begich not running for re-election would be stupid though. He should try and if he loses then think of a 2014 run.  

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[ Parent ]
You are correct
Conrad was able to run in the special election for the other Senator's seat who had passed away.  It was one of the years when a state had 2 senate seats up for grabs.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

[ Parent ]
Zata3
I looked at the "About" page on their site, and I still don't know where the name comes from. Is it an acronym? And did they have two abortive launches, or was it started by a triumvirate?

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I do like that Miller ad
But it's online only -- no SBYA disclaimer, and it's longer than :30.  

As for RFK JR, he's the one who loves rivers and hates vaccines.


NRSC buys 10/14
Small buys in CO-SEN, KY-SEN.  So glad that KY-SEN remains a battleground.

CO-SEN buy is $675K
So actually not really that small.

[ Parent ]
Another internal -- GA 2
Bishop says he's ahead 50-40.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...


Eh probably about what I expected
Not fantastic numbers, but not awful.  Keown said what, Bishop was +1?  You can probably average them out to Bishop +6, which I would be comfortable with.

[ Parent ]
Pelosi's crime
She's effective and she's a she.  The first part, at least, drives the blue dogs crazy, gutless as they are.  That's why they want to get rid of her.  The second part is the reason the right demonizes her.

The right also demonize Obama
They demonized Clinton, Carter and Ted Kennedy. They would be demonizing Hillary right now if she were president. Not because they are black, an horndog, a peanut farmer, an Irish Catholic or a woman but because they are Democrats.

[ Parent ]
Exactly!
And the sooner the Blue Dogs realize that this sort of grandstanding isn't going to help them, the better off they'll be.

In fact, the members who do say this, I'm taking as a sign that they're in (or at least think they're in) trouble, there's absolutely no way to spin this other than as a sign of weakness among members who say this.

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[ Parent ]
It isn't mutually exclusive
They hated Clinton because he was a Democrat. And they hate Pelosi because she is a Democrat and a woman in power. Ignoring and trivializing the chauvinist component of right-wing politics in America accomplishes nothing

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[ Parent ]
I believe that if she
were a male speaker and representing San Fran then it wouldnt be an issue.  Many on the right turn pro-choice feminists into abortion machines in their heads.

[ Parent ]
Chicago-Mayor: Guitierrez passes on run
http://blogs.suntimes.com/swee...

If anything, I suspect this hurts Emanuel...the fewer the challengers = the less anti-Emanuel vote-splitting.

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Rumor has it Lisa Madigan will run
She won't announce until after Nov 2, which tells me she wants to see who the next governor will be (since he will appoint her replacement if she runs and wins).

[ Parent ]
Now that would piss everybody off
For two very big reasons.

[ Parent ]
Chicago mayor
1) I'm a bit surprised Guitierrez passed.
Wouldn't this mayor's race be a free shot for him? If unsuccessful, he still has his Congress job. And his CD is so safe (D+32) that even if he took a couple months off from DC early in 2011 to run (election in Feb and runoff in April), I doubt enough constituents would hold that against him to harm his election chances now or in 2012.

[ Parent ]
He was gettting some pressure to stay
in Congress to work on immigration reform. His own poll had voters preferring he stayed in Congress to be a strong voice for immigration. So, I can see why he passed on a mayoral run.

[ Parent ]
Chicago mayor, re Emanuel
(hit enter too soon)
Also:
2) What evidence is there of some big anti-Emanuel with the Chicago voters in this race? I think that's some fabrication of DC & MSM pundits and lefty bloggers (both categories where that very well could be true in general)

[ Parent ]
Chicago has a run-off election
So I'm not sure "vote-splitting" is a huge issue, at least if you assume that the race will come down to Emmanuel vs. Somebody Else.

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NH-SEN: Ayotte 50, Hodes 35 (UNH)
Unchanged from a month ago.  It's too bad that the main pollsters besides Rasmussen in NH are UNH and ARG, probably two of the worst pollsters in the nation.

They've got Ayotte up 52-17 (!) among Indies
That seems near-implausible to me, although I can buy Ayotte up 15 overall (I have her up by high single-digits). It just floors me that 12% could still be undecided at this point. Looking at the cross-tabs, it appears that most "don't know"s are probably Democrats not thrilled with Hodes, but equally weary of crossing-over Ayotte (who already has 13% of Dems, while Hodes is siphoning-off a whole 3% of Republicans). If Carly Fiorina and Linda McMahon could muster such cross-over scenarios, they'd be in greater contention.

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CA-Sen: NRCC moving money from Rubio to Fiorina
This is one of the states
where the GOP candidate has been most outspent to date. I do think there is a small window of hope for Fiorina, if outside groups hit Boxer hard enough, though Fiorina's running out of time and undecided voters and Boxer's getting closer and closer to 50.

This is one of those races where SSPers simply refuse to accept is competitive at all. I would say Fiorina has at least as much of a chance of victory as Rossi and I think there's a decent chance we win this and lose WA. It will come down to the final week. Fiorina won't win by more than 2/ lose by more than 4.


[ Parent ]
The state is hugely expensive,
so going for a win here (from the Republican perspective) could risk a win or two in close races elsewhere.

[ Parent ]
Ya
she ain't getting any love from HP employees anytime soon. This classmate of mine in my English class, her father works at HP and she started talking about how Fiorina wrecked the company today and told another classmate of mine not to vote for Fiorina. I'm surprised Fiorina hasn't been actively trying to whitewash her record at HP.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
They Know Her
Take a look at the link below. Granted, it's about nine months old, so perhaps it's just because Boxer was in a stronger position then, but the fact that Fiorina has so few supporters at HP should really tell you something.

http://www.samefacts.com/2010/...

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[ Parent ]
Hit Boxer with what?
California is a Democratic state that likes Obama and approves of HCR.  Believe me, we've gotten the message that Boxer is a tax-and-spend liberal and we're fine with it.  Fiorina cannot win this election on the issues.  As I've said before, she needs an attack that can personally disqualify Boxer with voters who have supported her in the past.  So far, the only argument Fiorina has put forth along these lines is "Boxer's been in DC for 28 years and it's time for a change."  Do you think that's a strong enough argument to change Democratic minds?

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Disagree
This is one of those races where SSPers simply refuse to accept is competitive at all.

Who here has said CA is not at least somewhat competitive? Sure everyone here thinks Boxer has the edge and is favored but you just said that yourself. Just because the vast majority of SSPers like Boxer does not clout peoples judgment of this race like you seem to be claiming. I have this at tossup tilts D, a more than fair ranking, maybe even a bit pessimistic. I do not think anyone here has said that Boxer is going to have a slam dunk win.  

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I actually think WA is more likely to flip than CA.
I do know that in California, since 2000 it is impossible for a Republican to win barring unusual circumstances like what happened in 2003 and 2006. I see some Republicans still win statewide in Washington, and I don't know if the same theory applies there. Going back to 1992, Washington is only slightly more Democratic now than than it was then, having slid slightly GOP in the 90s before reversing trend this decade, while California has more or less been on a steady DEM trend since 1988 and is considerably more DEM now.

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[ Parent ]
Arguably Murray is a less polarizing incumbent
I think it's all academic really, as I don't see us losing either one, but I think Fiorina wins before Rossi does.

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[ Parent ]
Boxer tends to intensify her campaign
late, in the last two weeks or so before Election Day.  She's had a way of circling her opponent and landing an acute, hard hitting, efficient ad or two just as people are finally giving the election some real attention.

Fiorina strikes me as a vulnerable target for that kind of strategy.  She is fundamentally a political dilettante; it's not blatant but it's not entirely lost on people either.

Boxer by 8-10%, imho.


[ Parent ]
lets refrain from blanket statements like that
Particularly when you are wrong.  I would think every SSPer here knows Boxer is in a competitive race and where it seems we split in opinion is that you are thinking "zomg, the Dems are going down and Boxer is competitive so it's a total toss-up!". Most of us are now shrugging our shoulders at Fiorina because she is currently falling in the polls and is now further back then when she started practically.  

Just because someone is confident in the end result doesn't mean they're dismissing the current realities.


[ Parent ]
I would think Childers
would be next to throw Pelosi overboard.  Boren would but he does not have to right now.

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Knowing Boren
He just might for the lols.

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[ Parent ]
Probably
he didn't support Obama in 2008. I wouldn't be surprised if he voted for McCain that year.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Anyone watching NV-Sen Debate?
I'm this close to banging my head on the desk.

Angle is stupid and talking in her choking on ever word style, while Reid is stiff and quiet. He's loosening up, but still, this is painful.

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Yeah watching it right now
You know I think the polls are underestimating the none of the above option. There's no way the winner is gonna get 50% or even something like 48 or 49%. I really do see something like Reid getting 45%, Angle getting 44% and 10% for none of the above lol.

[ Parent ]
FWIW, None of These Candidates in U.S. Senate elections got:
* 2006 - 8,232 votes (1.41%)
* 2004 - 12,968 votes (1.60%)
* 2000 - 11,503 votes (1.92%)
* 1998 - 8,125 votes (1.86%)
* 1994 - 12,626 votes (3.32%)
* 1992 - 13,154 votes (2.65%)
per Wiki.

Probably will get the same neighborhood this time as well.
Also, there other third party ballot lines if someone just wants to waste their vote.

Also, it's not "none of the above". People keep getting that incorrect.


[ Parent ]
If people are turned off by both candidates
It's much more likely that they just won't vote at all. In 2006, with the unappealing Jim Gibbons limping to a finish for Governor, "none of these candidates" only polled 3.6%. With the down-ballot statewide posts it does a little better, probably since there are some people who don't know anything about the candidates and pick it as a default.

[ Parent ]
I am. I have no idea who is winning.


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[ Parent ]
Neither was great...
And both sounded awkward at times. Reid was boring. Angle was ridiculous. So nothing changed IMHO, which means Reid probably won by default.

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[ Parent ]
I thought Angle handily won
She wasn't amazing or anything, but expectations for her were surely bottom-of-the-barrel (probably lower than for O'Donnell), and, at worst, she was competent and got her talking points out. Reid, for his part, was a raging bore, didn't engage/confront Angle enough, and defended DC at least half a dozen times too much.

This may have been a game-changer.

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[ Parent ]
Unless someone said something spectacular, I don't buy any debate is a "gamechanger"
Angle not acting blatantly batshit crazy on stage won't change the perceptions people have of her.

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[ Parent ]
How many people watch Senate debates in mid-term elections?
Is it even in the 10s of thousands?

[ Parent ]
Practically no one
But the local media pays attention and recaps them during the 11 o'clock news that night. So unless someone had a great sound byte ("It's the people's seat" got a lot of coverage in MA) or made a big gaffe, the media reports nothing of interest and no one changes their mind.  

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[ Parent ]
Not many...
But we now have the first ad coming out of it!




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[ Parent ]
Another wicked smart move by Team Reid, especially because...
...from the accounts of political reporters, Ralston included, Angle "won" the debate.  Getting this ad on the air right away helps tamp down any "Angle won" storyline by the media, since people will see the ad at least as much as media reports on the debate.

I hope you guys pull this out.  I admit I've been getting more nervous about this one lately, since there's always a possibility of an 11th-hour national surge against our party that hits us everywhere--wave elections can go like that.  Of course that didn't happen in 2006 or 2008, when our House gains were slightly muted because of superior 11th-hour Repbublican campaigning.  So we can still hold the line where we are.  But no doubt I'll be chewing my fingernails and maybe even my toenails (ew, ick!) the last weekend...I haven't chewed my fingernails in 15 years or my toenails in 30!

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
As I said below, there was no consensus...
That "Angle won" last night. Ralston just said "Angle won" because she didn't fall off stage and talk about hearing the voices. And most of the other media reports so far, especially the local ones, are reporting it more as a wash. (Reid fumbled and mumbled, Angle sputtered and muttered.) But yes, most definitely Reid churning out these new ads (and I have a feeling there's more to come) helps move the conversation past whatever flaws he showed last night and back onto Angle (right where he wants it).

And again, where is this "wave"? I'm still not seeing it, and I still think this is the most overhyped thing I've seen since the "Sex & The City" sequel! I'm still not seeing any "surge" here, and the GOP still has no real field operation. They're still hoping Karl Rove can bail them out, and I doubt Rove's 527 can match what the NV Dems have spent the last 8 years building up.

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[ Parent ]
You're perennially optimistic, I hope you're right......
I appreciate that you have an ear to the ground in NV and know people there, but I hope what you're hearing is more on the sober side and less on the echo chamber side.  The pundits increasingly say no one has a handle on NV-Sen and it's a true tossup.  I'm increasingly inclined to believe that.  I know turnout is everything, but the "wave" I'm talking about stems first from Republican masses being self-motivated (i.e., without needing a GOTV nudge) to vote in uncommonly large numbers, and independents turning against us.  Those things are real, and you guys are having to work extra-hard to offset them and maintain as much of the 5-point registration advantage as possible in actual turnout.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Those pundits are NOT in Nevada...
I am. And what I'm seeing is real. The "mean streets of Henderson" are no echo chamber, and my neighbors here aren't the kind of folks you'll find here or at Daily Kos. Again, what I'm seeing on the ground isn't always what you see on MSNBC or CNN.

Even PPP admitted this before they released their new NV-Sen poll.

So the precedent is there for pollsters- especially the ones who have been doing most of the polling for this year's race- to underestimate Democratic performance in the state. Now there are also a couple reasons why that would not be the case again. The first is that it's quite possible the voters pollsters missed in 2008- Obama wave voters- are exactly the same kind of folks who won't be back out to vote this year for a midterm election.

The second is that those below the radar in 2008 voters may now be included in pollsters' samples- I can only speak for what we do but we're calling folks who voted in the 2004 general, 2006 general, or 2008 general so we should have a lot of the people we missed last time in our samples this time. Still it strikes me as much more likely that the polls are systematically underestimating Harry Reid than the other way around.

The other reason the tie might go to Reid is that the polling in Nevada is assuming a much larger gap between Democratic and Republican turnout compared to 2008 than we're seeing most places. In our poll tomorrow the sample reports having voted for Barack Obama by only 2 points, compared to his actual 12 point victory in the state. Even with that big dropoff in turnout from Democrats the race is still very close- but if even half of that enthusiasm gap was chopped between now and November Reid would be in a very strong position. And we have seen indication already this cycle that Democratic interest perks up as election day gets closer.

I certainly think Angle can win by a small amount but if you asked me who has the better chance of winning this by 5 or 6 points I definitely think it's Reid.

Many of the other polls showed Independents breaking for Angle by over 20% or no one under 35 voting or some other strange anomalies, but what I consistently see are certain voters breaking for Reid and planning to vote as such that many of the public polls are NOT expecting. I never expected this to be a landslide. I know this isn't the easiest cycle. Still, I'm not sensing any massive "Red Tide" here and I'm not seeing either the kind of breaks for Angle or ridiculously low turnout that Angle needs to win.

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[ Parent ]
Can you tell us
more about the good ground game that Nevada Democrats have at their disposal? Call me crazy, but if the Republicans are lagging in several key states and/or if Democrats in some states, like New York, are going to win governorships by large margins, perhaps that means they will drag some close races over the finish line. That same effect won't be as helpful in states where the advantage in ground game isn't there or it's met with equal force on the Republican side, like in Ohio, but at this point, it's about saving whoever can be saved. If people like Titus and Acuri and Hall can be helped, to whatever extent they were in trouble, it'll mean one less option to get to 43 (39 plus the four seats we will flip from "D" to "R").  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Read these two diaries...
Here and here. This is what I'm seeing on the ground. No rose colored glasses. No gauzy airbrushing. Just the facts.

Again, I think the DC pundits are really underestimating the power of the Dem turnout machine in a number of places (including here).

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[ Parent ]
I really hope you are right
If I were a religious man, I'd be praying you are right at this point. :]

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Don't pray... CALL!
Get on the phone, and/or start knocking on doors. Whenever I hear the pundits bloviating and salivating over "The RED TIDE!!!", it motivates me even more to step into the local Dem office after class or after another appointment to make calls and schedule more walk time. I'm not letting them tell me what's happening.

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[ Parent ]
Given some of the crazy shit
that this woman and many others have said, you have to wonder either (a) why it isn't being used more prominently in ads against them or (b) why it isn't making a difference? Has anyone asked Angle or Toomey or anyone else to take a firm position on Social Security privatization or the minimum wage?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
it didnt Palin at all
And she did much better than people expected.

[ Parent ]
Strongly disagreed...
People here in Nevada are hurting. They wanted to hear solutions. Wile Reid was boring, he offered clear answers and sounded relatable at times. Angle just sounded like she was reading blogs from FreeRepublic.

Angle needed a game changer, but I don't think she got it. She sounded just as crazy and disingenuous as ever.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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I think McNerney just got a bit safer
Apparently David Harmer advocated abolishing public schools...I shit you not.

http://www.aolnews.com/surge-d...


That 2000 op-ed is a must-read...
but it's already been out there. DCCC was attacking Harmer for wanting to abolish public school a few weeks ago.

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my bad
I hadn't heard about it before now, and it came up on my homepage, so I figured it must be recent

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I don't think there's been widespread stories about it
So it's a good thing you brought it up. I've always wondered why this essay wasn't more controversial and why DCCC wasn't doing more; and I actually was happy to see Calitics write about it earlier.

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Early voting strong for Dems in Ohio and Iowa
Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

Let's hope that this is a sign of the "enthusiasm gap" being overstated

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)


I would love for that to be the case
This might be wishful thinking, but if they are overestimating the strength that Republicans will bring, and we are tied or just a point or two behind, if not leading, in several key House districts, I think we can hold the House. Again, this might be more (specific) wishful thinking, but I am hoping strong ground games where they are supposed to exist, like Nevada, and relative strong wins for Democrats in states like New York and California will pull some vulnerable House members over the finish line. In New York especially, I can't imagine there's that much more enthusiasm in key districts for Republicans than there is for someone like Andrew Cuomo.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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So I just read that link fully
If that's not enough to convince every Democrat in the country to campaign until the polls are closed, I don't know what is. For many reasons, losses were always going to happen, but it doesn't look like it's over, not by a long shot.

I wonder if this phenomenon is playing out in other states like it is in Ohio and Iowa. I'd really like someone with the detailed knowledge to describe it in more detail. If someone prominent enough does it, and it's picked up by enough people to become a theme, it could shake some Democrats on the side line out of their funk.

Also, will this be one of the few times in history that Bob Shrum turns out to be right with his prediction that [knock on wood] Democrats hold the House and Senate?

http://theweek.com/bullpen/col...

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Most of our biggest hurdles this year
run through the Midwest. So if Ohio is looking good on the basis of early voting, that's definitely encouraging.

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I'll admit,
I'm not entirely sure what all of this means.

I just hope it's not a case of the left having all of its bullets used early. In other words, I worry that there's a certain group that will be out in force no matter what, and that these early results are a sign of that. If that's the case, wouldn't it mean that we still have a hurricane coming at us?

If I had to guess, I'd say that's not the case, but I'm open to hear other interpretations. Perhaps it does in fact mean that the enthusiasm gap is far less severe than we realize. If that's the case, and there's simply a bigger pot of Democrats/Liberals than Republicans/Conservatives, perhaps it's merely a heavy rain rather than a Category 5. (There was someone who made this argument--that there are simply more people identifying as Democrats than Republicans, and this makes the polls that assume there are roughly even amounts a little skewed--regularly during the first half of 2010. I'm not sure if the party numbers still hold, however.)

I also haven't seen much discussion of the ground game. It's hard to get voters to the polls if they don't exist, but Obama had, I would think, a pretty sizable list of contacts to use to try to reach voters. Not all of them are still big fans like I am, but I would think that enough are that they hold a big weapon the Republicans simply don't have.

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Early voting is an antidote
AGAINST the enthusiasm gap. We're able to persuade people to get to the polls at their convenience ahead of time (drive them if we must) or mail in ballots. We're able to lock in votes that we might not otherwise have gotten, if voting were limited to Election Day alone.

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I know that.
That's one of several things it can mean.

I was just wondering if it was, or rather hoping it didn't, masking problems that we are facing this year.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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I have been tracking the Iowa numbers
There are some good resources there.  Dems are outpacing Republicans in Iowa in the early voting... but they have the last two cycles.  And this cycle, the gap in early voting between D's and R's is much lower.  It's hard to tell for sure if it's an enthusiasm gap, or just a function of the nationwide movement toward early voting.  What you can say for sure is there isn't a severe enthusiasm gap, causing a reversal of fortunes.  Dems are still ahead in early voting.

Johnson County Iowa has some amazing resources on early voting.  They have day-by-day totals broken down by party, updated every night.  They also have 2006 numbers, day-by-day, so you can make a same day comparison!

In Johnson County (a heavily Democratic county), at this point in 2006, the early vote breakdown was Dem 68.5%, Rep 14.2%, Ind 17.3%.  Today, this cycle, the early vote breakdown is Dem 52.9%, Rep 21.8%, Ind 24.8%.  Obviously, as a percentage of voters, Dems are down, and Reps are up.  But half of that is due to increase in independents.  A large number of those independents are probably college students who are voting early because of the 21+ in bars referendum.

Now, I also looked at IA-03, where there is a competitive race between Boswell and Zaun.  There are county breakdowns available for early voting up until Friday, and at that point, in the district, compared to the total number of early votes in 2006, Dems were at 84.9% of 2006 levels, Reps were at 95.6% of 2006 levels, and Indies were at 81.2% of 2006 levels.

A lot of combing through data, just to reach a conclusion that it's hard to reach a conclusion.  But there's nothing here that sets off alarms for me.


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One more data point
In Johnson County, 20.7% of registered Democrats have voted early or requested a ballot, as have 19.2% of registered Republicans, and 12.8% of registered Independents.  Amazing numbers.  Today, early and absentee balloting has eclipsed the TOTAL as of election day from 2006!  We have 20% turnout in this county among partisans, with 18 days to go!

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These are bad numbers for us......
I'm sorry but this is just bad.  Thanks for the apples-to-apples with 2006, that's what's valid, but the dropoff matters and hurts us.  Remember that we get SLAUGHTERED in Iowa in election-day voting, and in 2004 it more than offset the early voting advantage and Bush won the state.

One arguable silver lining for us now in comparing to 2006 is that one can plausibly argue that 2006 itself had an uncommonly inflated Democratic turnout advantage because it was a WAVE year FAVORING us, and that some dropoff is expected even just for a politically "neutral" year.  And there's no way to guess how much of a dropoff should be expected in that instance.  But then I took a look at official election results and was astonished to find that even in 2006 Republican voters statewide were a plurality, barely outnumbering Democrats by 1400 votes, even though registered Dems outnumbered Repubs by 18,000.  Independents were just 26% of voters, compared to GOPers and Dems each making up 37%.  This compared to a voter registration breakdown at the time of 38% independent, 31.5% Democrat, and 30.5% Republican.

The only other arguable silver lining for us is that I know after 2004 the state Dems reevaluated their early voting strategy and realized they needed to focus more on sporadic voters and pay less attention to self-motivated habitual voters.  I don't know how much the reduced early advantage this year might reflect a further refinement compared to 4 years ago in focusing harder on lower-turnout voters, which necessarily would reduce our early voting advantage but increase the number of sporadic voters we get to cast ballots, resulting in a net plus.  But I suspect there's little to this.

Ultimately I think the "enthusiasm" gap is revealing itself in actual early voting.  That's not a surprise, but it's a big problem for us.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Wouldn't you expect
a severe drop off in the numbers if there was as much of a difference in enthusiasm as some suggest there is? It doesn't seem surprising that Republicans are more enthusiastic, but wouldn't as big of an advantage show up in either fewer Democratic early voters or a lot more early Republican voters?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Not clear to me what you're arguing......
Are you arguing that the early voting dropoff is explained away, at least partly, by Republicans voting early instead of waiting, so that there's not really such a big net gain for their party?

That's an interesting hypothesis and equally valid as my hypothesis about the state Dems' increased focus on sporadic voters.

But again, I suspect there's not all that much to it with these things, that really we're just seeing the early signs of an uncommonly unfavorable turnout model.  I hope I'm wrong, but absent a compelling explanation to the contrary, I take the early voting numbers at face value and view them as a bad omen.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Here is what I am suggesting:
Basically, it sounds like Iowa Democrats (and your concerns were about Iowa Democrats, as opposed to Ohio Democrats, which I will get to in a moment) usually are more represented in early voting than Iowa Republicans. If that's the case, you'd think the figures would have been slightly inflated in 2006 (and also in 2008, because of Obama) due to higher enthusiasm on the part of the Democrats. It makes sense to assume that the numbers would change this year--there is a gap between the two parties--but it isn't clear exactly how big it is. If it were really as large as some suggest, wouldn't it show a tremendous drop off for Democrats a noticeable surge for Republicans? It doesn't seem like the numbers suggest that. In other words, it seems like there's a small movement in each direction--down for the Democrats, up for the Republicans--which could mean things aren't that different this year.

Your interpretation of what I thought might be happening could be true, but it seems weird to suggest that. It implies that each side has a relatively set number of voters, which isn't necessarily the case.

One question for you: what basis is there for saying the Democrats will be massacred on election day by Iowa Republicans? I don't mean to sound hostile, because it certainly is possible, but is this based on recent history?

Also, if you look at the .pdf link from one of the Ohio counties above, it shows what portion of voters have returned their ballots. The Republicans have turned in their ballots at a higher percentage, but there are far fewer of them in this county that have requested them, and when you are working with a smaller base, movements in the numbers can be exaggerated.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Responses to your points......
First, regarding whether each side has a "relatively set number" of voters, I'm not suggesting that's entirely true, but I do think it's partially true.  There is some elasticity in turnout, but there is a ceiling for both sides in what's realistic.  The state Dems' focus on sporadic voters is an attempt to get as close to that ceiling as possible.  The Republicans haven't done that so much, but it's possible some of the early GOP turnout THIS time is self-motivated habitual voters who normally wait for November.  But I doubt there's much of that.

Second, my "basis" for saying Democrats will be massacred on election day is hard data that I cited in my previous comment.  Republican voters actually outnumbered Democrats in 2006!  This in a Democratic wave year at a time when registered Dems outnumbered registered Repubs!  And Dems dominated early voting that year, as in ALL years.  So it automatically follows that election-day voting was overwhelmingly Republican.

Regarding the Ohio absentee ballot return rate, I understand what you're saying, but I don't think "statistical noise" explains away the higher GOP return rate.  I think it reflects an enthusiasm gap that hurts us this year.

I hope I'm wrong.  I really do.  And I do think the two OH counties' decision to send absentee ballot applications to all registered voters ultimately helps us because our voters need more of a nudge than theirs to actually vote.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Okay...
In regards to Iowa, that's what I figured. I was just wondering if there were some more detailed explanation that explained what, exactly, was going on.

As for everything else, I acknowledge that Republicans are more motivated this year, but I still think we'd be seeing fairly large changes in both directions if there were some huge gap. It doesn't seem like that is the case, at least not everywhere. I guess we need more data to have a better idea of what was going on.

As far as statistical noise, take a look at the link from Cuyahoga County. There are more than three times as many Democrats as Republicans in the county. There's clearly an increase in energy on the Republican side, but the smaller base of voters makes any movement seem bigger than it is, at least right now.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/p...

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Not all good news for Dems
In Cuyahoga county 10% of registered Dems have returned absentee ballots, 15% of registered Republicans have returned absentee ballots.

BTW here is a good link for tracking early voting nationwide.

http://elections.gmu.edu/early...

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


[ Parent ]
Where are you getting those figures from?
Let's say you are right, however. Wouldn't that indicate that they are roughly even--in other words, there's no big advantage to the Republicans from having a supposedly more enthusiastic base?  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Here
http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/p...


"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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Here is a Newspaper article on early Voting in Ohio
http://www.daytondailynews.com...

In Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, Democrats are asking for absentee ballots by a 2-to-1 margin, yet registered Democrats outnumber Republicans 4-to-1.

Only a few hundred more Democrats than Republicans have requested ballots in Franklin County, which includes Columbus. Two years ago, Democrats in the county asked for twice as many ballots.



"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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I found that same article, but
I didn't take away the same negative impression you did. If nothing else, I'd guess the difference is Obama not being on the ballot. I'd also argue that the smaller base of the Republican party in the county makes any jump look bigger. It is important to consider both percentages and absolute numbers. Plus, you have to wonder how those No Party voters are voting.

Nobody is shocked to hear that Democratic enthusiasm is down somewhat and/or that Republican enthusiasm is up. But it looks a lot closer than we realized, in a worst scenario, or in a best scenario, that the gap almost doesn't exist.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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Who are the indy voters though
It could be good news for the Democrats, or it could be bad news.  If a large portion of the independent voters are "TEA Party" voters, it could be bad news for the Democrats.  Keep in mind that while the Tea Party is largely comprised of Republican Voters and Conservatives.  Most of the Tea party people are not registered as republicans, as they are upset at both of the current parties in congress.

However if, a large number of the indy voters are young people then most likely, this is very good news for democrats.


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Anyone else find this very tastless?
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...
Murkowksi will air ads that Ted Stevens shot for her. Even with his family's approval, I still find it kinda sick.  

Eh...
Stevens endorsed Murkowski and clearly wanted her to win (I couldn't say whether he would have supported her independent bid, but then again given the family's approval, I'd think so).

I find it kinda weird, and think it could backfire on her, but I don't think it's really sick.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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It's definitely unsettling, but I can understand the strategy behind it
Murkowski senses a Miller implosion waiting in the wings, and this is her way of winning back the rank-and-file who jumped on the Miller bandwagon post-primary out of loyalty to the GOP. The McAdams crowd probably won't be moved much.

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Not really
The family said it was ok. Look at it this way Stevens clearly would have supported Murkowski right now, he would more than likely be ok with it. I think it is a smart move on her part and will go over well.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I don't think it's so bad
if his family approves.

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Not me
I have no problems it at all.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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Personal preferences aside
It would be pretty cool to see Murkowski win just because of the history aspect--a candidate winning a statewide election as a write-in over the nominees of both major parties. I know there is a lot of support for Scott McAdams here but a Murkowski win would be a lot of fun for us to break down and the analysis of it would give us something to do during the slow post-election period.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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you are officially an elections geek now
Welcome!

A Murkowski win would be downright awesome in a politics regard.  I bet Jeffmd is already salivating over the possible maps he can make.


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I think it's perfectly cool. The only people with moral authority to object told Lisa it's OK, and...
...there's no other reason Lisa shouldn't use the ads.  Ted would have wanted her to use them...that's why he filmed them!

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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Got
done watching the DE Senate debate on tivo. No surprises, rather boring. Being as non partisan as I can be it is clear Coons came out the winner. O'Donnell wasn't HORRIBLE but she seemed inexperienced and did not come out looking stately at all. But she kept to the tax line and did not say anything overall controversial. As the expectations were low for her she did meh. Coons was decent. He seemed seasoned and knowledgeable. He did look a bit foolish repetitively calling O'Donnell a liar but in truth she was spitting out lies and distorted half truths and Coons had to say something about it, hopefully the electorate realizes the types of things she has said in the past and her trouble telling the truth. She looked incredibly stupid when she tried to use the bearded Marxist bit and both Wolfe and Coons called her out on it, with Coons providing the truth on the whole thing and her looking stupid. Also she came off looking dumb when Coons was talking policy and she randomly interjected wondering what character would play Coons on SNL, Coons gave a look that was basically uh ok.... laughed it off and he got back to talking.  So no real game changers, expect a Coons blowout.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

IA-03, IA-02
Speaking of things we thought we'd never be saying a few months ago, the NRCC has the IA-01 and IA-02 challengers at the "young gun" level (top tier) and left Brad Zaun languishing as a "contender." Not that they're spending money in any of the Iowa districts, but it's conceivable that Boswell could win and either Braley or Loebsack could lose. I would NEVER have believed that. I always figured Boswell would pull through, or at least wouldn't be one of the first 40 seats Democrats lose, but I didn't think IA-01 or IA-02 would be competitive at all.

Just published a roundup of IA-02 campaign news at Bleeding Heartland, by the way. Turns out Miller-Meeks supports the "fair tax"--news to me.


IA-Gov
Des Moines rumor mill says that Boswell internal poll showed Culver trailing Branstad by far less in the third district than he did in previous internals. If Culver is closing the gap it should help down-ticket Democrats. Several competitive state legislative races are in the third Congressional district: Iowa House districts 74 and 75, Iowa Senate district 37.

It's probably too much
to expect that Culver hangs on, right? But if he loses by a smaller margin than expected, it does make sense that his larger share of the votes will help keep some of the seats in the hands of Democrats.

I've brought this up a few times, but you have to wonder how much of a difference some relatively unmentioned factors like one candidate having far superior GOTV efforts (supposedly the case with Angle versus Reid) and having a pretty strong to very strong win in the governor's race will help House Democrats. What, exactly, is Andrew Cuomo doing to help the vulnerable Republicans in New York, if anything? Is it too much to expect that his decisive win will pull them over the finish line?


"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


[ Parent ]
There are 4 benefits to Culver closing and losing narrowly and instead of losing big......
Those 4 are Boswell, Braley, Loebsack, and the Iowa House.  The Iowa Senate, too, but Dems have too big a majority and not enough seats in play to lose it.  But the Iowa House could be lost easily.  If Culver closes for real and can lose by "only" single-digits, then we save a lot of seats.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
and maybe the 3 IA Supreme Court justices
who are being heavily targetted for ruling in favor of gay marriage will get help from this, too.  (I've got my eye on those three.)

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me too
I am worried about the judges. In a normal retention election, about a quarter of people who fill out that part of the ballot vote no for whatever reason. With all the publicity and money being spent on the no side they could easily oust the judges.

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NY-Sen: Gillibrand launches anti-DioGuardi site
MN-Gov - SUSA-KSTP TV Poll
No link yet.

Dayton- 42
Emmer- 37
Horner- 14
Undecided- 7

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


I love how drama-free
that race has been, at least from afar.

PS. Still haven't shopped at Target since the corporate donation...


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I think things will remain pretty stable
There have already been about 2 dozen debates and Dayton is a very well known quantity, I just don't see any game changers at this point.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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And He's Done Well In The Debates.....
I'm biased, but in the debates I've seen, Dayton seems most in command of the issues while Emmer denies the very existence of the state deficit and Horner complains incessantly about his "extremist" opposition and every Reform/Independence Party candidate for every office debating in every public venue dating back to 1994 has done.

Have any of the debates been televised in the major Twin Cities media markets during primetime yet?  It was those October debates that christened Jesse Ventura and Tim Pawlenty, while destroying Skip Humphrey and Tim Penny.  If the main televised debates are still up-and-coming, then there's still the potential for a serious game changer.


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the only game changer i can seé
And I've mentioned this before, is a late Horner surge.  But it has been an extremely low-key race, unfortunately.  Here I thought Emmer would be giving us a show but turns out his early servers make 100k a year gaffe taught him a valuable lesson.  
If you don't watch tv on tv like I do, it almost feels as if there isn't an election going on at all.

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Link
http://kstp.com/news/stories/S...

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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Amazing That Horner Is Still So Low.....
I would have thought he'd be running away with the bellwether suburbs (Bloomington, Minnetonka, Eagan, Coon Rapids) by this point.  Having lived through Skip Humphrey and Mike Hatch though, I won't relax on this one until the last week, and considering Dayton's terrible close in the August primary, perhaps not even then.

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Primaries
are much more volatile than generals.

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DFL get out the vote...
... will be working for him instead of against him this time.


"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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VA-09
Not sure if this has been posted.

Survey USA

Boucher 51
Griffith 41
Heaton 4
Undecided 4

http://www.surveyusa.com/clien...

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan


MS-04: Palazzo raises more at one event than Taylor raises in entire quarter
Gene Taylor raised 159k in the 3rd quarter, Palazzo raised 177k at one fundraisier with Haley Barbour in August. The NRCC also plans to go up on air here soon. http://majorityinms.com/2010/1...

Reid has a great ad out from tonight's debate


Damn...
You beat me!

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These guys need to be in Ohio in 2012
This is by far one of the best Senate campaigns anyone has run in recent history. Whoever is pulling the strings needs to be on the front lines next cycle

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

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Harry Reid at his best this year.
I mean it. If you had asked me 1-2 years ago what I thought about Harry Reid's upcoming election, I would have said "He's probably going to retire or lose horribly". This is just based on his horrible approval ratings in Nevada that have been horrible for years. I've never seen a political rebound like it.

The best ad of the election cycle was the ad where Harry Reid talked about health care reform closing the doughnut hole in Medicare. It makes me wonder what shape the Dems would be in right now if they used that ad as inspiration and replicated it for Dem candidates all over the country.


[ Parent ]
Really?
I caught bits and pieces of tonight's debate, and while Angle is a total disaster of a candidate (and how she's been running even with this guy in freakin' Nevada is totally beyond me), Harry left a lot to be desired.  Perhaps, he's just not that good in debates and the rest of his campaign makes up for this, but I was surprised with how unimpressed I've been with the sitting Senate Majority Leader.  

To be fair, I've never completely warmed to him as the Democratic leader of the Senate (a bit too conservative, myself) and I can't say that I've been particularly impressed with how he's defended himself, this year.


[ Parent ]
No, he's not the best public speaker...
We've talked about it here many times before. Reid is no Obama. That's just not his style.

And from what I've been seeing from the local pundits so far, Ralston said "Angle won" because she didn't seem so crazy while also saying it may not ultimately matter, while Steve Sebelius (LV CityLife & KLAS 8 Vegas) eviscerated Angle all the false statements and condescending attitude coming out of her last night, and Anjeanette Damon (LV Sun & KRNV 4 Reno) thought the debate didn't move any one else's supporters or persuade any (of the very few) undecided voters (left).

All in all, I stick by my first call from last night, which is that neither candidate was great, Angle didn't get the "game-changer" she needed, and Reid probably won by default in that as awkward as he was at times, he didn't really give Angle anything she can put in new attack ads. (Angle, OTOH, apparently already gave him material.)

And finally, here's something it seems a lot of folks STILL don't get about Reid. He likes to work behind the scenes. He's always been more work horse than show horse. He'll never be Barack Obama, or even Oscar Goodman for that matter. (And in the latter case, that's probably a good thing... IMHO Goodman has been more punch line than good puncher lately.) He's Harry Reid, and (thankfully) he doesn't have to rely upon personality to win.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


[ Parent ]
Reid's team out FAST with post-debate ad:


American Crossroads first House ad buys coming through
CA-03: $682K
IN-02: $152K
NY-22: $265K
OH-18: $77K

That CA-03 buy is amazing, even if it's just meant to cancel out Bera's fundraising in one fell swoop.


Sink leads 48-45
in first "Sunshine State News" tracking poll.  Conducted by Voter Survey Service, which is really Susquehanna Polling, which does both independent polling and polling for candidates.  Only Republican candidates.

http://www.sunshinestatenews.c...


Manchin up by 10 in Marshall University poll
Way too high
My guess he has leveled out and is leading by five or so. Or this could be the start of a trend, I will have to wait to see more data.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I had guessed and hoped in late September that Raese had peaked too early......
WV-Sen was one race where I thought time would be our best friend.  Manchin's lead evaporated too quickly for Raese's own good, because, unlike when this happened to Coakley, Manchin and the DSCC were left with plenty of time to regroup and find an effective attack narrative, and also plenty of time to let the Republicans make a bad mistake.  Both things have materialzed, allowing Manchin to regain some ground.

I agree that 10 points isn't plausible, but at the least this confirms that in reality it's no worse than a dead heat and maybe a narrow Manchin lead.

I'm actually feeling better about WV and IL.  First Read reported yesterday morning that based on conversations the previous 48 hours with insiders of both parties, IL and PA were starting to look better for Team Blue.  PA surprised me, as did the report they had going the other way that CO was starting to move toward the Repubs.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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The Ohio Poll
Kasich up 51-43, Portman ahead 58-36.

http://www.ipr.uc.edu/document...


Does Portman get over 60 on election day?
And so much for the fake "Strickland" surge.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

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The Strickland surge was and maybe still is for REAL......
Even Rasmussen had Kasich's lead down to 48-45 earlier this week.  That's the first time in months they had Kasich under 50 or Strickland that close.

I've been skeptical for a long time that the Strickland surge would get him over the hump and to victory, but there HAS been a surge, and keeping it close helps us downballot.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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As I recall, the Ohio Poll doesn't have the best of reputations


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^^THIS


23, Male, Democrat, OH-13

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Portman
After this poll that has Portman +22 and Rasmussen poll that has him +23, open question, who will win by a larger margin, Portman or Boozman (or Coburn, DeMint.....)?

22, Male, Conservative Republican, anti-teabag, NY-8

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Good comparison, and in fact I think Lincoln will outperform Fisher, perhaps by a LOT......
I think Lincoln will close and lose by about 15.  She's the incumbent with a good campaign infrastructure and will recover some of her former supporters to get into the 40s.  Could even be as "close" as 10.

I think Fisher has tanked with no means to stop the bleeding, and he could very well lose by 25!  I wouldn't be shocked to see him go down 62-37, simply because he doesn't have any money or message or other campaign infrastructure at all.  At best he loses by 15, 57-42, and I think that's optimistic at this point.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Well, that sucks...
That's going to be blasted in every newspaper in Ohio on Sunday, which isn't going to help things... The Ohio poll is pretty damn good, but they do have a conservative bias.  I guess that means we'll just have to work harder.

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VT-GOV DUbie 44 Shumlin 43
http://www.vpr.net/news_detail...


Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

Nice to see an independent and new poll, and it confirms....
...that this one is a jump ball.  A minor surprise, is my impression, as the thinking seemed to have been that Shumlin was the weakest of the Dems.  But Vermont is Vermont, always tough for a Republican.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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my thoughts
as usual, summer dubie internship disclaimer.

It clearly is a close race, when neither candidate released internal polling following the rassy poll showing shumlin up, that showed that it was close, as dubie would want to combat the idea of shumlin gaining, while shumlin would want to show another poll with him up.  neither happened.

Two: both candidates have shored up their bases.  they each have about 83-86% of their respective parties, but dems have a six point lead on reps in the electorate.  Dubie however is leading amongst indies (41% of the electorate) 49-33.

three: there is a sizable gender gap.  shumlin leads with women 51-39, while dubie leads with men 49-35.  Men make up the largest block of undecideds.  If they break towards Dubie, He will probably win.

four: Shumlin's favorables are +4, 41/37 fav/unfav.  Dubie's are +16 47/31.  their even on no opinion or undecideds with each at about 18%.  

five: oddly enough Dubie leads in Southern Vermont, which is both fairly democratic and home to Shumlin's home County of Windham, which put him over the top in the general.  The largest chunk of undecideds, geographically, is in the northwest corridor of the state, the Chittenden County outskirts possibly.  these tend to go either way.

Six: Shumlin is leading in chittenden County.  CC is not like the em base counties of other states, such as King, or Clark, or Cook, republicans can win here and the county is only two points more democratic than the state as a whole.    This is because the dem stronghold of Burlington is balanced by the suburbs of SOuth Burlington the wealthy area of Williston, Winooski and I think Essex (can't remember if it's in Chittenden County).

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Also
Here's a clip of Shumlin going to the Dubie HQ with six business owns in favor of singlepayer.  the context is provided in the video.  One of them is Jerry Greenfield, the Jerry of Ben&Jerry.  one quick thing, Jerry is a big time supporter of Progressives and progressive Dems in VT, so it might not be the fairest sample.

http://www.wcax.com/global/vid...

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sorry for bad grammar
computer's in the shop, so I'm using e-mail stations for SSP updates.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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Welcome back, good sir! n/t


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You can probably stick a fork in Whitman
"Whore"-gate may have effectively killed maidgate, but it doesn't appear poised to pay dividends to Whitman in the long-run. I suspect her only path to victory is for Brown to commit even more gaffes, which isn't implausible, but if Rasmussen even has her down six, she's probably doomed. Again, what's most fascinating is that Fiorina looks poised to almost certainly out-perform Whitman now. Right now, I envision results somewhere around...

Democrat - 44%
GOP - 33%
Independent - 23%

Brown - 90/6/46 = 53%
Whitman - 9/92/44 = 44%
Other - 1/2/10 = 3%

Boxer - 88/2/44 = 50%
Fiorina - 11/96/47 = 48%
Other - 1/2/9 = 2%

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[ Parent ]
Boxer
Two points even though Rasmussen says three and you consistently say she will outperform her polls a little? Looks like 52-48 to me.

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Sometimes, gut instinct and math don't quite connect with me
For instance, I've been predicting Mark Kirk to prevail since practically Day 1, but when I finally bothered to draft a voter model on IL-Sen about a week ago, I actually found Giannoulias up 6 (!). My gut does tell me Boxer probably out-performs the polls and that she should win by about 7. Alas, my actual voter model has different thoughts.

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NV--Jon Ralston thinks that Angle won the debate...
...and thinks that she'll probably win the election, now:

http://bit.ly/9iqZBQ

That sucks... I was worried about having the debate so late.  All she needed to do was not look crazy, and that's not hard to do for an hour.  


Oh, for crying out loud
I can't think of one senate debate that ever decided a race, except perhaps for the Kerry-Weld matchup in '96.  And two and half weeks is an eternity in a tight race like this.

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Coakley-Brown this year
Although that was more about confirming a trend than deciding an election. Coakley looked unsure of herself and inarticulate, and Brown looked poised and non-scary (key for a Republican in MA.) His line "it's the people's seat" got a lot of attention nationally and became somewhat of a rallying cry for his campaign for the final week.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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We didn't see that last night...
Sure, Reid isn't a good debater, but that's pretty much common knowledge here. I'm actually a little surprised that Ralston was surprised. And I've seen him do worse, so again I don't think he bombed... He was just his usual boring self, albeit his boring self providing pretty good substance.

And again, I saw no "game changer" for Angle last night. At best, she threw red meat to her base and gave them more motivation to vote early this weekend... But they were already going to vote for her. She certainly gave no reason for (the very few) undecided voters (left) to vote for her. I've spoken to them. They're freaking out about jobs and foreclosures and how to pay the bills and stay afloat. She provided nothing to assuage their worst fears of her, and she may have turned off those already irritated over all the negative ads by her personal attacks on Reid. (Again, the "Tea Party" base loves it, but moderates don't.)

So Reid may have debated a bit like Coakley last night, but Angle was definitely no Brown. And funny enough, it wasn't Reid who made Angle look horrible last night... Actually, it was Dina Titus at the NV-03 debate that followed the NV-Sen debate. It was quite telling that she was ripping on Joe Heck for recent flip-flops on a number of issues, including repealing HCR, gutting the Department of Education, and endoring/unendorsing Sharron Angle. I always thought it would be the other way around, but funny enough it may end up being DINA who carrys Harry across the finish line to a certain extent. ;-)

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
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Oh, I wasn't trying to make a comparison
I was just giving an example of a recent Senate debate that was actually consequential. From the clips I saw, I agree with you--Reid wasn't exciting but didn't do anything to hurt his case, and Angle came off as competent but didn't give undecideds any reason to vote for her (not just against Reid.) Reid was indeed far from Coakley--the two could not be more different in terms of their ability and desire to campaign!  

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Oh, I wasn't being hard on you...
I just saw an opportunity and ran with it. ;-)

Again, being completely honest, neither one gave undecideds reason to vote for either. That's why I don't think it was a "game changer". It doesn't help either much, but it probably hurts Angle a bit more just because she needed a "game changer" to get more positive media.

And moving away from the debate, I think the biggest difference is that the Dem machine is so strongly invested in Reid's reelection that they're pulling out all stops for him. Again, I see it all the time with the Henderson office filled to the brim with volunteers making calls at times and staff assigning walkers (both paid and volunteers) to turf all over town. I'm not seeing the same on the GOP side. Angle's supporters may not need any GOTV push, but they're not doing much to win over folks in the middle.

It's a full contrast of what happened in Massachusetts, where GOPers were pumped up to win a Senate seat for the first time in decades while Dems pretty much cut Coakley loose and let her destroy her own campaign. And like the NV GOP being so contentiously split on Angle, the MA Dems were divided over Coakley.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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The media is giving Angle positive attention
And the media is saying that Angle won the debate, and that Reid looked lost.

Not sure it will be enough for Angle because no doubt, in Nevada, the benefit of the doubt goes to Democrats.  But, what noone really knows, is how many true Tea party voters (the voters that while no doubt conservative, have never been involved politically before) will come out to vote.  But, they certainly have confounded the primary polls so far with both Lisa Murkowski in Alaska and Mike Castle in Delaware supposedly being in tight races, only to get blown out by the tea party candidates.  But granted, primaries are more difficult to poll that regular elections.


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I think he is seriously over-reacting.
Very few voters watch these debates. They will see the ads though and Reid got a good ad out of the debate.  

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Uh, I don't see where Ralston said he thinks "she'll probably win the election"
The closest thing to that in the article was this:

That is crazy, folks. But that's not how she came across Thursday, as Reid failed to call her on that and many other topics, making it more likely he has to make an unthinkable call to her on Election Night.

Given that Ralston felt Reid has extremely likely to win for a while, this doesn't equal "Angle probably wins", it equals "Reid's chances of winning are lower than they were before".

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Bah, I meant "Ralston has felt that Reid was extremely likely to win" n/t


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[ Parent ]
I was going to say exactly the same thing
Having said that this was Reid's oportunity to close her out and by all indications he blew it.

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Except that Ralston also wondered...
If the debate "will have any electoral effect". So I think it depends on how it gets spun over the weekend, or if it's almost completely forgotten over the weekend as some other big news drops.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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You almost have to wonder
if Reid is considering sending fake news announcements of something really outrageous involving Muslims or gays or taxes to Angle's house in the hopes that she runs right to a camera to scream about it. In the end, she'd look like a fool, and voters would be reminded of it.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Wait, he didn't say that...
He didn't say Angle will win the election. In fact, Ralston wondered if the debate had any electoral effect. I don't think it did. And his Sun colleague, Anjeanette Damon, didn't think so either.

U.S. Senate candidates Sharron Angle and Harry Reid had clear-cut strategies in their lone joint appearance before an audience of mainstream voters this campaign.

Angle, the Republican, sought to use Thursday's televised debate to buck the constructed image of her as an extreme conservative. Reid, the Democratic Senate majority leader, sought to convince voters he understands their economic plight, and defend the policies that so far have failed to generate a significant recovery in Nevada.

Neither candidate, analysts agreed, was able to deliver that perfect message capable of wrenching away their opponent's supporters or moving undecided voters into their column.

"I wish I knew how undecided voters are thinking right now, but I just don't think this debate moved anybody off the fence," Republican strategist Robert Uithoven said. "I don't think she made any catastrophic mistakes and I'm not so sure he did either."



Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


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Interestingly,
Reid cleaned up in all the online news polls. Of course, those are totally unscientific (and susceptible to monkey business), but I saw him winning 60-80% in the five polls I checked out. He even won the the LVRJ poll!

My admittedly biased sense is that he just needed to remind people that he's a good, albeit imperfect man that has their best interests at heart. In other words, to soften his negatives. And I think he probably did that.


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Again, you have to wonder
if Reid or one of his allies can simply spend the last two weeks making Angle look like a crazy woman by baiting her into saying ridiculous things. That wouldn't be a good strategy by itself, but combined with a good ground game a positive message coming from Reid, it might make the difference.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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Interesting article in WP about AA turnout.
AA voters are as engaged as 2008.

The report  points to parallels in recent history. In 1986, two years after the Rev. Jesse Jackson ran for president and mobilized black voters, the gap between black and white turnout narrowed significantly. African Americans also voted in high numbers in the 1998 midterm elections - a fact that David Bositis, who wrote the report, attributed in part to high support among blacks for President Bill Clinton.

Other key note:

So often, the effort to turn out black voters is invisible to the larger white society," Bositis said. "It is happening in black organizations. It is happening in black churches. This isn't something you're going to watch in real time on the Web and television."

This could have a huge impact in Senate and governor's race especially in PA, IL, OH.

WP


But are they "enthusiastic"? ;)
Will they run, or only walk, to the polls?

[ Parent ]
Good stuff -- points to two elections
where Ds did surprisingly well.

I presume that means standard "voter screens" miss the impact of such turnout efforts.


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I distinctly remember that Roy Barnes won 1998 GA-Gov because of unexpectedly high black turnout that year......
Black turnout in Georgia in 1998 was 27%, at census or very close to it.  Black turnout even in a Presidential is normally a point or two below census; it was a point above census nationally, perhaps for the first time in history, in 2008.  In midterms, black turnout often is several points below census.

Yeah, if black turnout can be at census levels this year, that will give us some unexpected wins.  Perriello in particular probably would win with a 25% black vote share, since he's need only 35% of white votes in that scenario and likely will get that.  Driehaus, too, would survive in that situation.

But polling clearly is saying that these guys are going to lose, that black vote share won't be there for them like they need it.  And polling is usually right.  Usually.  Not always.  But usually.

I hope but don't expect us to get the turnout we need from black voters or other demographics for that matter, except in peculiar cases.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Good to have you back


[ Parent ]
I hear that black turnout
will surprise a lot of people this year. It makes sense that it could help in the Senate races in states like California and Pennsylvania, but in what specific Houses will it make a difference. The problem is, as welcome as a higher turnout rate is, if there's simply not enough black voters in the district to make a noticeable difference, it won't save many House candidates. I know next to nothing about the make up of contested districts in states like Ohio, but I'd love, love, love to be proven wrong and find out there are more black voters in these districts than I realize.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
Well I identified a couple of them......
Perriello in VA-05 and Driehaus in OH-01 would benefit greatly if black voters showed up at census.

You can go to a site like CQ (Congressional Quarterly) to see the demographics, racial and otherwise, of individual districts.  I think CQ is pretty good for that, and maybe National Journal, too.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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I just wish I could outsource
that job to someone else. If I do it, I am likely to be sucked in and never return to trying to get something accomplished each day.

Anyway, I read about Perriello and Dreihaus, and if it can happen for them and a few others, it'll be good news. Call me crazy, but I am starting to believe there's a decent chance we could keep the House.

Unless things go really, really badly, I think the upward bound on the Republican gains is about 50 seats. I just don't see them winning 70 or more, not with them being so unpopular, because a lot of the districts that are red to deep red that are occupied by Democrats will be lost but will be kept within the 40 range. (There's lots of room for losses, unfortunately, without the losses really encroaching on our territory.) For us to be competitive, we'd need to be within a few points one way or the other, and in a lot of districts, that seems to be happening. If you imagine some combination of a good ground game by Democrats, strong finishes by Democratic candidates for governor, and emerging forces of minorities that will build vote totals, it makes sense that winning a few seats here or there can keep us from losing the House.

I'm unfortunately ready to be proven wrong, as I have been in the past.  

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?


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I remember..
.. going to the CQ site for that data in 2008, but it doesn't look like their election map offers the demographic data i their info about each individual district this year - or am I looking wrong?

The census FactFinder site has it, but it's less easily gotten to there - see my comment below.

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Data on racial composition of congressional districts
The US Census Bureau's "American FactFinder" website provides data from 2007 on the racial composition of congressional districts, though it takes a bit of a search.

Go to the site (http://factfinder.census.gov/ ), and where it says "American Community Survey", click "get data". At " 2009 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates", click the first given link, "Data profiles". Then fill in the search form: as geographic type, choose Congressional District - 111th, and then choose the state and congressional district you want. Click "show result", and you get an array of statistical data about that district. Race is not going to be on that page yet, you first have to click the "Demographic" link.

Repeat for every district you're interested in. :-)

38, Male, SP, NL / LMP, HU


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This Could Save Some Seats
Close to home I'm thinking of the two vulnerable House seats in Virginia. Both VA-02 and VA-05 have sizable African-American populations. It's been kind of assumed in many quarters that depressed turnout in that community is going to be part of what sinks Glenn Nye and Tom Periello.  

If my pessimism and skepticism of the polls showing an O'Malley lead about the MD-Gov race is completely misplaced, this could be a big part of the reason why.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


[ Parent ]
As I await the morning edition, I think of yesterday morning's digest
where user DavidNYC said

What would you do without the Daily Digests?

(btw, welcome back user DCCylcone!)


LA-Sen: Melancon internals have him down 7
http://voices.washingtonpost.c...

If this were September 15th, I might give Melancon a shot at taking this. Alas, how does he expect to surge by high single-digits in less than three weeks?

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Isn't the answer here to
simply cut Kendrick Meeks off and shift at least half of those resources to Melancon? Try running ads for a week or so and then see what happens. If it's within three points or less, invest more money and have Clinton make a visit to the state.

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

[ Parent ]
MEEK!
And does anyone else think this race would be different if it were run under '04 conditions?  (Jungle primary with Vitter, Traylor, Melancon, et al in November, runoff if no 50% in December.)

I think Vitter would have a tougher time with the field going after him for months and then a 1 on 1 showdown a month later in December.  


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I have no idea
In the end, I really don't care that Vitter has a wild sex when it comes to sex. Nor do I care that he cheated on his wife with hookers. There are plenty of other reasons to oppose him. Instead, what bothers me is that he's getting a pass when any Democrat in his position would be hounded until he lost by 10 points. Maybe this is because the Democrats never took the seat that seriously and it was never focused on, but still, he's getting a pass when others haven't. The partisan in me is livid.  

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AK-Sen: The Ted Stevens ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Note that it's a full minute long.

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It's obvious her team handled this
with much care. Kudos to them. Can't imagine it will be backfire. In fact, I think it's even more powerful with the intro by the daughter.

[ Parent ]
3/4 of the ad is explaining.
"This is why this ad is not offensive"

If you're explaining, you're losing.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


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Rasmussen jumps shark again on CT-Sen, DE-Sen, CO-Gov......
CT-Sen:  they have Blumenthal's lead back down to 5, 51-46.  I guess this is Scotty's Hail Mary pass for Linda, to try to save her?

DE-Sen:  not as bad as CT-Sen, but still bad as they have Coons up only 11, 51-40.  This is smaller by several points than ALL other polling outfits.

CO-Gov:  Scotty now has this a real race, with Hickenlooper leading Tancredo only 42-38, and Maes at 12.  Keep in mind Scotty's previous venture here already was the closest race anyone had seen, at 43-35.  A strange turnout model this time, with indies at 40% and Dems and Repubs at only 30% each--that shows inflated indie interest and depressed GOP and Dem interest, not realistic in any counts.  And Tancredo wins indies by 10!  Only Rasmussen and PPP have polled here in October, and PPP had Hickenlooper up 47-33 just a couple weeks ago.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


Horse shit
His FOX release had Blumenthal up 6 for the 9th when Quinnipiac had Blumenthal up 11 between the 7th and the 11th. And of the last six DE-Sen polls before this one the lowest margin was for FOX. The Rasmussen poll of CO-Gov was taken the day after the PPP sample ended. Somebody really has to look into this guy in detail.

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An examination of Rasmussen's DE-Sen polls reveals...
...that Scotty is the ONLY pollster to EVER show O'Donnell reaching 40!  That is hilarious by itself.

Meanwhile, his 11-point spread now contrasts to all other recent polls showing Coons up in the high teens, except for SUSA who has him up a record-high 21.

Oh, and even further, Scotty actually tested Coons vs. O'Donnell in July......and had O'Donnell up 41-39!

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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It is infuriating
He is basically acting like the Republican internals. Another example - a couple polls and some whispers suggest Sestak is closing so Ras releases a poll that says the gap is actually widening. Nate has an article up that says pretty much that he thinks Toomey is in fine shape but then Tweets...

"A very smart person in a position to know tells me I'm wrong on #PASEN and private polls genuinely show the race tightening. FWIW."  


[ Parent ]
I saw that tweet, and actually Chuck Todd confirmed on First Read yesterday......
Here's what First Read reported on Thursday morning this week:

Here's our understanding of how other Senate races are trending today, per conservations with Democrats and Republicans over the last 48 hours. First, Democrats have some momentum in Illinois (which is a Toss Up contest) and in Pennsylvania (which we have had Lean Republican). Second, both Colorado (Toss Up) and Wisconsin (Toss Up) appear to be moving toward the Republicans a bit. Third, we don't think anyone has a handle on Nevada, which seems like a pure 50%-50% race -- or, because of "none of the above" and other third-party candidates on the ballot, 45%-45%. And fourth, Democrats seem to have solidified their standing in Connecticut (Lean Democrat) and in California (Toss Up), though we'll know more next week. And then there's Washington, where Murray looked like she was solidifying and now that seems to have moved back into a pure Toss Up. If the GOP can put away either CO or WI quickly, don't be surprised if Rossi becomes beneficiary. As for West Virginia, it's another pure Toss Up, as Manchin has appeared to stop the bleeding for now, thanks to the "hicky" business.

So what Silver tweeted jibes with what Todd et al. are hearing.

And today First Read added:

We learned that Democratic candidates are gaining ground in some key races, and that the Obama rallies are helping the party (see PA SEN, for instance).

So the Obama visits are helping.  That's interesting because Hotline On Call had a piece earlier this week about how Hill Dems disagree with the Obama/OFA turnout strategy.  But I can't imagine Obama's biggest strength, if he's helping with his rallies, isn't in turnout.

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For me, the over-under right now is at 47 Republican seats
First of all, Republicans start off winning three seats from us without too much doubt: North Dakota, Arkansas, Indiana. Republicans are at 44

Next, Republicans have the clear edge in: Wisconsin, Colorado, and Pennsylvania (though the last two are arguable, I'm still not ready to write off Colorado and if reports are true, Sestak might not be a lost cause like I thought). This gives the Republicans 47 seats.

These Democratic-held seats are true toss-ups: Illinois, Nevada, West Virginia. While this could give the Republicans 50 seats, I don't think the Republicans win any of them. That said, Republicans are at 47-50 seats here.

Potential problems for the Democrats are in California and Washington (but I think both are still Democratic leaning). Republicans should still be at 47-50, but with the potential to get to 49-52 (yikes!)

There are no Republican-held seats that are likely to go to the Democrats, but there are 4 seats that are, in theory, competitive (Alaska, Kentucky, Missouri (barely), and Florida (again barely). Also, New Hampshire is a potential dark-horse, not likely to flip at this point, but still there's a potential for a surprise. This gives the Democrats the potential for +2 (though being realistic, at best +1). Here the numbers are anything from 45-50 seats (with the median at 47!)

FWIW, my actual prediction is the Democrats hold 54 seats while the Republicans hold 46, but there we are!

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[ Parent ]
I think the best they can get is 50-50


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Yeah, realistically I agree
There are theoretically enough seats to get them to 52 or 51 without a defection from us, but yeah, I agree with you in practice.

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[ Parent ]
Right now
If you put a gun to my head, I'd say 52-48.

[ Parent ]
Thanks for the welcome back. Re our takeaway opportunities, I'm down to 3......
AK is our best bet, if McAdams can thread the needle with a late surge.  KY is our next best bet.  And the only other one is NH, and ONLY because there is the occasional poll showing a 5-point race with most polls keeping Ayotte still in the 40s.  Keep in mind I don't regard NH a serious opportunity, but rather the only one behind AK and KY where our chances are still higher than zero.

I think MO and FL are LOOOOONG gone, as in zero chance.

And of course OH was always destined to disappear from our map due to the disparity between the candidates and campaigns.

AK and KY are still serious opportunities, and the only ones left, only because we get to run against extremist teabaggers.

I'm now starting to think we'll hold on to IL and WV, keeping our losses down to 6 and our majority at 53-47.  PA is an outside chance, and CO remains an outside chance.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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If offered 52-48 right now
I would take it.

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Can't argue with your logic
I get to 54 by winning one of those four seats (KY, AK, CO, PA), and I think we could do it, and maybe even pull off 2 of them (getting to 55).

Still, I'm also aware I'm on the optimistic side of things, so add that grain of salt to my analysis as you see fit!

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Scotty's Friday afternoon dump
His party was feeling a little let down by the results of senate polls the last few days, so Scotty rushed to make a pro-Republican dump just in time for the weekend.  What a joke.

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Flooding the zone
I'm really hoping that the excellent record for accuracy being built by PPP will lead to them being able to poll much more often next cycle. That would somewhat negate Mr Rasmussen and his agenda.

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PPP
At least PPP continues to keep the (D) by its name.  Scotty continues to insist he is non-partisan, when if he had any integrity, he would have an (R) by his name.

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That's because they do internals
PPP is required to have a D by its name because they do private polling for a variety of Democratic clients (I know that, among others, Alan Grayson has used them.) Scott Rasmussen is a Republican, and his polls have a GOP house effect this cycle, but Rasmussen is not a Republican outfit because he does not work for any Republican clients (his polls are all public and independent.) The "D" or "R" isn't about the owner's ideology, it's about whether or not you've been paid by partisans to do surveys on their behalf.  

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Then who pays him to do these 1000s of polls. All by subscription fees?
Plus isn't he teamed with Faux, merely under a different company name started recently?

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Teaming with FOX
It wasn't as if he wasn't already flooding the zone before those started being released. Which reminds me about something Nate said about the huge number of close House races compared to previous years. One reason he said the likes of Cook, Sabato and Rothenberg have so many races in their Tossup and Leans categories is because of the massive increase in polling. No mention of the fact up to 75% of it is Republican polling Nate himself has said he is suspicious of. Also, why does Charlie Cook et al never move a race when a positive Dem internal is released?

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I, too, am starting to think these experts don't reallly have much more info than we do......
Yeah, these released internals seem to play a bigger role than I previously thought in what Cook/Rothenberg/Sabato believe.

I do believe beyond any doubt that they are fed inside info we never see as mere mortals.

But I'm also seeing tea leaves that suggest they don't have THAT much more info than us, that they rely more heavily on the same info we have that I previously thought.  Sometimes they'll explicitly cite polls that have been reported here to back up their opinions.  They'll complain public polls are junk, but then cite them.  They'll say internals are superior, but we know from experience PUBLICLY RELEASED internals aren't necessarily honest, and it's some of those publicly released ones that Cook et al. cite.

Election night is going to be nerve-wracking.  I do essentially concede the House is gone because EVERYONE says it now outside the Democratic echo chamber.  And yet, if there's ever a year when the CW could be very wrong, it feels like this one.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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It's hard for PPP to poll much more with their business model......
They rely on paying clients, same as most pollsters.  University pollsters of course don't have clients, they get their money from the school or a foundation or generous donors or whatever.  Rasmussen is alone in its subscription-based service, and that demands frequent polling since the junkie-consumer needs polls for their own sake, unlike other clients.

Making it harder for PPP is that campaigns mostly distrust robopolls and won't hire robopollsters.  Some do, if they have no choice and need to save money.  I've been robopolled by both the RNC and DNC, they'll do some of that for quick snapshots.  And I know PPP has had a few campaign clients, but they're always cash-poor low-level ones.  But for the most part campaigns won't hire robopollers, and certainly not any high-profile campaign.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Paying clients
I'm assuming a record of accuracy equals more of these.

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I'm not sure how much newspapers/TV/media
really care about true accuracy. They MOST of all want a headline to sell more papers that or general more web clicks, or get higher viewer ratings.

(Other types of businesses of course are different, in particular if polling is used to determine spending)


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Allen Boyd
I see that there's a poll in FL-2 (I think it's independent), that has Southerland (R) crushing Rep. Allen Boyd (D) 56-30.

22, Male, Conservative Republican, anti-teabag, NY-8

FL-02
Boyd might be the incumbent who loses by the largest margin this year. He was getting slammed in the two internals (Tarrance 52-37, National Research 46-30) released this summer too.  

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Panhandler
Are you from the Florida panhandle? If so, that's interesting to hear--people on this board, myself included, have been all over the place on Boyd's race this year and it's good to have a local's opinion,

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Boyd
Yes, I'm from the panhandle (FL-01) but I've recently moved to Virginia. (I need to change my handle.)  Boyd's district has moved hard right since the '08 election, not that it wasn't conservative already (R +6). Boyd was going to have a tough race no matter what but it's Al Lawson's primary challenge that did him in. Boyd spent $2 mill and had to move to the left to fight him off. He's turned off Dixiecrats with his voting record and Blacks with his attacks on Lawson.  

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No great loss
Boyd was the only Democrat to sign on to Bush's social security privatization scheme.

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He voted for HCR, right?
And remember, that vote was very close.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Link please?
that's pretty sketch, I think even Southerland/NRCC internals are less favorable to Southerland.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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PPP are polling this weekend
Will be very interested to see if there is something to the robopolling discrepancy.

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Speaking of robopolling, y'all should read this
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.n...

With the stipulation that SurveyUSA - which, unlike Pew, does not ordinarily include cellphones in their samples - has spent considerably less time studying the issue, here's what I think might be going on. Firms like SurveyUSA - and certainly Rasmussen Reports, which takes every imaginable shortcut to produce polling as cheaply as possible - are the equivalent of junk-ball pitchers in baseball.


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The one concern I have
Being they were the most accurate in New Jersey last year. But everybody showed that race as a tossup, a couple points in it either way. I don't see how anything but methodology can make up for Rasmussen showing a Rossi lead and SurveyUSA a small Murray lead while the other polls show margins of at least 8 points.

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To extend Nate's analogy
even "junk-ball" pitchers who've lasted a while sometimes have excellent games.

(Go Giants! I'm reduced to rooting for the SF Giants, since there's no way I could ever root for the D*mn Yahnkees, a team from Texas, or a team with more obnoxious fans than anyone else.... At least the Giants' home uniforms are the same color as my wife's car, which will get me a few more min of their games on the main TV.)


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It willbe intresting to see where Washington ends up
No doubt, other that Rasmussen and SuveryUSA, most other public polls are showing Murry running away with the race.  But going off Chuck Todds tweet posted above, it said that Washington is a TossUp

Here's our understanding of how other Senate races are trending today, per conservations with Democrats and Republicans over the last 48 hours. First, Democrats have some momentum in Illinois (which is a Toss Up contest) and in Pennsylvania (which we have had Lean Republican). Second, both Colorado (Toss Up) and Wisconsin (Toss Up) appear to be moving toward the Republicans a bit. Third, we don't think anyone has a handle on Nevada, which seems like a pure 50%-50% race -- or, because of "none of the above" and other third-party candidates on the ballot, 45%-45%. And fourth, Democrats seem to have solidified their standing in Connecticut (Lean Democrat) and in California (Toss Up), though we'll know more next week. And then there's Washington, where Murray looked like she was solidifying and now that seems to have moved back into a pure Toss Up. If the GOP can put away either CO or WI quickly, don't be surprised if Rossi becomes beneficiary. As for West Virginia, it's another pure Toss Up, as Manchin has appeared to stop the bleeding for now, thanks to the "hicky" business.


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It willbe intresting to see where Washington ends up
No doubt, other that Rasmussen and SuveryUSA, most other public polls are showing Murry running away with the race.  But going off Chuck Todds tweet posted above, it said that Washington is a TossUp

Here's our understanding of how other Senate races are trending today, per conservations with Democrats and Republicans over the last 48 hours. First, Democrats have some momentum in Illinois (which is a Toss Up contest) and in Pennsylvania (which we have had Lean Republican). Second, both Colorado (Toss Up) and Wisconsin (Toss Up) appear to be moving toward the Republicans a bit. Third, we don't think anyone has a handle on Nevada, which seems like a pure 50%-50% race -- or, because of "none of the above" and other third-party candidates on the ballot, 45%-45%. And fourth, Democrats seem to have solidified their standing in Connecticut (Lean Democrat) and in California (Toss Up), though we'll know more next week. And then there's Washington, where Murray looked like she was solidifying and now that seems to have moved back into a pure Toss Up. If the GOP can put away either CO or WI quickly, don't be surprised if Rossi becomes beneficiary. As for West Virginia, it's another pure Toss Up, as Manchin has appeared to stop the bleeding for now, thanks to the "hicky" business.


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The solidifying was based on public polls
So are we to believe a "pure Tossup" is based on Rasmussen? The Washington Poll and Elway need to shut up shot otherwise.

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More info -- sponsored by Puget Sound area PBS stations
ref http://www.kplu.org/election20...

I have no idea about the quality of the pollster, but their graphic suggests some tracking of state legislative approval, along with some archives from '07 and '06.


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Angle's COH # is $4mm.
So much for her $14mm September haul. The DSCC/Reid will have no problems competing with that.  

Do you...
have a source on that?

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Jon Ralston tweet. (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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...and Ralston tweets more, that Angle spent...
...$12 million in expenses, out of that $14 million.  So she netted only $2 million, while carrying over $2 million from post-primary bump.

Unimpressive.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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That's what I expected. Angle's lack of TV ads revealed the truth......
She didn't buy for the final couple weeks before the election until very recently.  Late buys are expensive.  So she really didn't have that much saved up, her fundraising expenses ate up much of the $14 million.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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Another tweet from Ralston:
Jon Ralston   RalstonFlash

FEC details show Angle spent $12 million to raise $14 million. Additional $2 million in COH from post-primary bump. #badmaillist ##nvsen half a minute ago via Echofon

She spent $12mm to make $14mm. Seems like she would have been better off raising money through targeting Nevadans instead of hiring a national mail firm.


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Why is this haul
being treated as something so special? Sure, she's saying lots of insane things that appeal to right-wingers, but can't most candidates do what she did and end up with a lot of money only to have to spend a lot to get there?

"I have never deliberately given anybody hell. I just tell the truth on the opposition-and they think it's hell."--President Harry Truman. President Obama, are you listening?

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IE's for today
AFF is spending $443K in their personal vendetta in IA-01 and IA-02.

Americans for Tax Reform is spending big on ad time against Dems in some of the more fringe pickup opportunities:

AZ-07: $230K
GA-02: $310K
MI-09: $513K
TN-04: $476K
TX-29: $332K
WV-03: $308K
PA-SEN: $338K

TX-29, really?


TX-29 buy doesn't make sense
it's against Jack Rodriguez, who as far as I can tell, ran for the seat in 1996 as the Republican in a special election.

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TN-4, MN-1
DesJarlais (R-TN-4) released ANOTHER (he updates us every week... how nice of him...) internal poll, has him up 45-40 on ConservaDem Davis, he seems to be making steady gains, and that this R+13 district is ready to dump their ConservaDem. Also rumor mill in MN, TV station (don't remember all the ABCs) will release poll tonight that has Rep. Tim Walz (D-MN-1) in trouble.

22, Male, Conservative Republican, anti-teabag, NY-8

Source?


28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

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