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MD-Gov: O'Malley Opens Up an 11-Point Lead

by: James L.

Tue Sep 28, 2010 at 10:04 PM EDT


Abt SRBI, Inc for the Washington Post (9/22-26, likely voters, 5/3-6 in parens):

Martin O'Malley (D-inc): 52 (47)
Bob Ehrlich (R): 41 (47)
(MoE: ±4%)

Nice movement for Martin O'Malley here. Bob Ehrlich's problem? Although he's winning independents, his message is failing to sway enough Democrats to his campaign:

Instead, despite widespread concern among Marylanders about the economy and direction of the state, Democrats have moved solidly behind O'Malley. And he is more popular now than at any time a Post poll has been taken since 2004.

In recent months, O'Malley has moved to invigorate his party's base by adopting a campaign theme that asks voters to reject a return to Republican control. Four out of five Maryland Democrats say they are enthusiastic about voting for him, according to the poll. O'Malley has also emerged as the candidate more trusted by voters on the top issue in the race: Maryland's economy. [...]

In 2002, Ehrlich was lifted over his Democratic opponent, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, in large part by scoring 22 percent among Democrats, according to a Washington Post exit poll that year. Ehrlich, in his losing reelection bid four years later, mustered 15 percent of the Democratic vote. Now, only 10 percent of self-identified Democrats say they back Ehrlich in the re-match.

Among registered voters, O'Malley's lead is 49-35, and his job approval rating sits at 57-33. In a year where incumbent Dem Governors have been getting shellacked in the polls, the O'Malley camp has got to be pleased with these numbers.

James L. :: MD-Gov: O'Malley Opens Up an 11-Point Lead
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The way Maryland is laid out
only a Democrat who runs a bad campaign will lose.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Even KKT almost won in 2002
despite one of the worst campaigns ever.

[ Parent ]
What was the Kennedy Towsend campaign so bad in 2002?
I've always heard about how bad it was, but I've never heard what factors caused it to implode. I know there was heavy criticism of her choice of running mate (a former Republican who switched parties to run on the ticket, if I remember correctly).  

[ Parent ]
She
was also weighed down by the unpopularity of the Dem governor in office at the time.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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kkt
Choice of running mate was part of it, but I'll try to sum up the rest.

1) Glendenning was extremely unpopular - he was known for many public gaffes, and for divorcing his wife and marrying his pregnant mistress while governor. He had the lowest approval rating of any state governor in 2002, and Townsend was his Lieutenant Governor, so she was tied to him and didn't do enough to make herself a separate entity.

2) She was a terrible Lieutenant Governor - one of her signature platform points was reforming the juvenile justice system, and yet the MD juvenile justice system in the 90s was terrible. There were always stories in the news about horrible abuse at facilities, and she didn't really do enough to stop it - a lot of foot dragging.

3) She thought that being a Kennedy in a liberal state was enough to give her an easy win, so she didn't do as much campaigning as you'd expect. A lot of people took offense to the fact that she thought she could take a win for granted. When she finally started campaigning, her literature was criticized for being of questionable quality and for being distributed to areas that weren't going to vote for her anyway - like the Eastern Shore. Indeed, she did not focus enough attention on the Democratic strongholds.

4) She was a gaffe machine. She introduced her running mate Admiral Charles Larson as "Ambassador Larson." She said "Hispanish is an imporant language to learn," she said "the Ravens scored a football;" she actually spoke at my high school when she was lieutenant governor back in the 90s (Ive been told) and went on about herself the whole time and how she used to build adobe mud houses in New Mexico - she got booed by the students. The fact is, she was a terrible speaker and often looked flustered.

5) Her choice of running mate pissed off a lot of longtime Democrats. Even though Michael Steele did not get Ehrlich too many black votes, his presence convinced enough liberal whites (like my family) that Ehrlich was a real moderate who would keep Maryland level-headed.

Basically, everything that could have went wrong did go wrong.

21, Male, Democrat, MD-02 (home/registered), MD-05 (college)


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Chuck Larson
Chuck Larson was an interesting, "thinking-outside-the-box" choice. He is an incredibly capable, accomplished guy: valedictorian of the same class at the Naval Academy in which John McCain finished near the bottom, Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet, and two tours of duty as Superintendent of the Naval Academy. It's just that he was an unknown figure in Maryland politics.

The thing is, to pick somebody like that you need to sell it--call party leaders around the state, leak a short list of names including his to the media, etc. Townsend did none of that. She sprung the name on everybody, to the inevitable "who the fuck is that?" reaction.


[ Parent ]
I personally heard her
mispronounce her own name in a speech at a campaign rally...twice.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

[ Parent ]
Kathleen is a good person
But she was in the wrong line of work; she had no business being in politics.

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I guess Ehrlich's time...
Is REALLY up now. It probably doesn't help to huff and puff as "Mr. GOP" on national TV while trying to convince Marylanders otherwise.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE progressives in Nevada!
24, gay male, Democrat, NV-03 (or 04?)


JUST LIKE CALI
a democratic state where democrats are coming back home

Another data point to feel hopeful for November......
Very good.  I'm friends with Kumar Barve, the Maryland House Majority Leader, and months ago he told me O'Malley would win, he was confident of the ultimate outcome, even though the polls were tight.

I figured the same myself, but couldn't help but feel nervous.

WaPo is the gold standard for Maryland/D.C./Virginia polling, they're simply the best here.

I feel very good today.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


O'Malley
Looks as though he will likely hang on partly due to the lean of Maryland. If he does and if Frank Kravitol survives (or narrowly loses) they should definitely make MD-01 more blue friendly. There are enough D + 20 districts in the satate that it could be possible. Likely they could have just one safe Republican seat and give Kravitol a better district without seriously endangering any Dem seats.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

[ Parent ]
So long as Kratovil keeps it close on the E shore,
the legislature should give him a D+ district in 2012.  

[ Parent ]
They Would
There's a fair number of MD redistricting diaries that have plans for this, including one by me.

You can include the entire Eastern Shore and still have a district where Obama won anywhere up to about 58% of the vote. (If you're drawing it specifically for Kratovil, he might prefer a slightly more conservative and natural-looking district than that.)

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


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Thanks
Just read your diary and wow that is great stuff. Yes while FK is a conservative Dem given the demographics of his district its tough. If he were given a better district I am sure that his voting record would reflect that to an extent. Hoyer would have been able to literally say that he "took one for the team".  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

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This Does Not Match What I Am Seeing and Hearing
Ehrlich's signs and stickers are freakin' everywhere in the Baltimore area, even in the city but especially in the suburbs. "Another Democrat for Ehrlich" signs in this neighborhood are very common. Every business in this state seems to have a gigantic Ehrlich sign.

I know, I know...yard signs don't vote. But it was close last time, and in this neighborhood O'Malley at least had something near to parity in terms of visible support.

I don't get the feeling O'Malley is that popular around here either talking to people, though there's very little people can point to other than "the economy sucks" and "the sales tax got raised to 6%." But it's not as if the economy wouldn't still suck if Ehrlich were in office.  And of course Ehrlich has pledged to roll back the sales tax and introduce a bunch of business tax cuts, but has steadfastly refused to say what he'd do about all the resultant lost revenue...OK, I'll move away from substantive policy...

Big chunks of the base are disspirited. State workers are pissed about all the furloughs (of course, Ehrlich's people are going to just going to send them to the unemployment line, but never mind that) and are venting. There's a fairly sizable gap between what people thought Obama promised and what they think he is delivering, and another share of the electorate that sadly thinks, Dems are in control, they did their job and are now moving on - and all that is spilling over into state politics. The Dems have a hammer lock on the legislature, so the incentive to be complacent is strong.

But this poll is still encouraging. I have not spent much time in MoCo or PG lately and it could be that there's so many people in the DC suburbs who no way, no how, aren't pulling the lever for the GOP no matter what, that Ehrlich still can't win.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


a few points
1) Moco and PG are fired up for O'Malley. I know a lot of people here who just flat out do not want to see Ehrlich reelected. They're worried about service cuts and think O'Malley is doing a good job - "why change when things are fine?" seems to be a common thought here.

2) In east Baltimore County, where my family lives, I actually see a lot of O'Malley signs - yes, there are more Ehrlich signs than O'Malley signs, but you have to remember that Ehrlich carried Baltimore County both times - in 2002 with 63%. Given how many O'Malley signs I see, I doubt he'll get that high this time.

3) White people in the Baltimore area who aren't Jewish (and don't live in Howard County) are just pissy people in general - they're always pissed off about everything, so you can't use them as a good metric. The biggest thing I've noted is that all the true blue Dems I know are all firmly behind O'Malley and some have even gotten involved with the campaign - most of these people (including my family) actually voted for Ehrlich in 2002. Ehrlich's not getting any of these voters this time.

21, Male, Democrat, MD-02 (home/registered), MD-05 (college)


[ Parent ]
I feel the same way
I used to live in MD and still have a ton of friends/family in the area and they are almost all for Ehrlich. Might be just because of where they are (Baltimore suburbs/Eastern Shore), but it seems to me that the enthusiasm is on his side.

I expect Ehrlich to really clean up in these areas, but I think this will be decided in Montgomery County, which of course is heavily Democratic. If Ehrlich can remain competitive with the white, white-collar workers here, he has a shot. If not, then the combination of DC suburbs plus Baltimore City might just be enough to get O'Malley through.

Regardless, I see this as being very close. It's tough for me to buy an 11 point lead at this point, even if it is from WaPo.  


[ Parent ]
Worth remembering
If signs voted, Allan Lichtman would be the junior Senator from MD right now.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

[ Parent ]
I remember the Lichtman campaign
It broke my heart when I read that Lichtman took out a $250,000 second mortgage on his house to donate to his campaign, which received 1% of the vote.

[ Parent ]
Yes
Such a nice man, and a true scholar.  I voted for him, but very few others did.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...

[ Parent ]
Not Around Here
Actually, not a lot of signs for anybody in my Baltimore neighborhood in 2006 for that Senate primary. The data says that Cardin got the most votes in the area by a decent margin, but I seem to recall Mfume (popular with activists) having more signs. The odd thing is that a perennial Harold Stassen type name Mike Schaefer - no relation I know of to the former mayor/governor, and I think he treads on that confusion to get more votes - had more signs in Hampden than anyone else.  

Lichtman did, however, have a billboard at 41st & Falls Road in Baltimore. I forget what exactly it said, but it had Hillary Clinton's name on it and seemed to imply without directly stating that he had Hillary's endorsement. I did see a bunch of his signs down in MoCo when I drove down there.  


36, M, Democrat, MD-03


[ Parent ]
With all due respect, I trust the poll more than...
...anecdotal observations, where the two conflict.

WaPo in my observation has the most accurate polling for Maryland, D.C., and Virginia elections.  They have the occasional outlier like anyone, but as a rule they're more trustworthy than anyone else for elections in their market.

Anecdotal stuff can be informative where it's corroborated by other information.  I'm in Fairfax County and Deeds was completely invisible all last summer and early fall, and it was disastrous.  Yes I included a lack of yard signs and bumper stickers as relevant data points, but ultimately I would have rejected the importance of those things had his polling been good.  But the anecdotal information matched the polling, so it was all trustworthy taken together.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Rading The Signals
I can certainly buy the notion that O'Malley has a lead, based on Ehrlich being unable to get the crossover votes he got even in 2006 in the DC suburbs.  

I was just making an observation that there was considerable enthusiasm for Ehrlich in the Baltimore area, even among some city residents, which would seem to conflict in some way with these numbers. (From poring over election data I know that my neighborhood generally is about 6 points better for Democrats in general elections than the state average.)  

Obviously crosstabs have a bigger margin for error than the main poll but I'd feel better about taking this at face value if I saw something that put what I'm observing in a better context.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


[ Parent ]
I've learned from experience in my own neighborhood that data trumps anecdotal information......
I live in McLean, VA, in an affluent precinct.  Senator Robert Byrd lived in my very neighborhood, 4 blocks away.  Colin Powell lives in my precinct, a couple neigbhorhoods away.  Fred Malek, a top GOP money man, lives in my precinct.

I've knocked on doors in my neighborhood many times as well as other neighborhoods in my precinct over the past couple cycles.  There are houses I can't get to on walk lists because they're gated mansions.  These neighborhoods are mostly white, there are hardly any black or Hispanic voters on my lists or to be seen out and about, and what few minorities exist are relatively affluent.

If I had to guess how my precinct leans based on the totality of my experience and observation, I'd say it's a Republican lean.

But then I look at actual election data, and my precinct is a Democratic lean.  McDonnell and Bolling won my precinct last year, but Vanderhye and Steve Shannon carried it.  Obama won it by a decent margin, as did Mark Warner, although Frank Wolf won it comfortably.  My precinct voted "no" on the gay marriage ban referendum in 2007, before I moved to Virginia, and otherwise gave a majority to all the Democrats that year.

You just don't really know what's going on without enough data.  Anecdotal evidence is good supporting information, but not good primary information.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Yeah! Now keep it going!
Keep on pointing out how extreme and unacceptable Republicans candidates across the country are.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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