Google Ads


Site Stats

SSP Daily Digest: 9/27 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Mon Sep 27, 2010 at 3:54 PM EDT


IA-Sen: Selzer & Co. for Des Moines Register (9/19-22, likely voters, 11/8-11/09 in parentheses):

Roxanne Conlin (D): 30 (30)
Charles Grassley (R-inc): 61 (57)
Undecided: 6 (10)
(MoE: ±4.2%)

Not much to see here other than the remarkable consistency over the almost one year's period since the previous Selzer poll of this race. (I just learned a new word today, while searching for how to describe this race, linked to the Chet Culver vortex: "syntropy." It's synergy + entropy.)

NH-Sen, NH-Gov: American Research Group (9/22-26, likely voters, Dec. 2009 in parentheses):

Paul Hodes (D): 32 (36)
Kelly Ayotte (R): 46 (43)
Undecided: 20 (21)

John Lynch (D-inc): 42
John Stephen (R): 40
Undecided: 14
(MoE: ±3.5%)

ARG, mateys! Here be a mighty treasure trove of undecided scallywags! (And here be the gubernatorial link.)

OH-Sen, OH-Gov: Univ. of Cincinnati for various Ohio newspapers (9/16-20, likely voters, 5/11-20 in parentheses):

Lee Fisher (D): 40 (47)
Rob Portman (R): 55 (46)
Undecided: 5 (6)

Ted Strickland (D-inc): 45 (49)
John Kasich (R): 49 (44)
Undecided: 6 (6)
(MoE: ±3.4%)

University of Cincinnati hasn't been in the field for a while, so they missed the very steady decline of the Dems in Ohio, making it look like more of a sudden collapse. At any rate, this is actually Ted Strickland's best non-internal showing since early August.

WA-Sen: Commonsense Ten is out with a $412K independent expenditure in the Washington Senate race, on Patty Murray's behalf. (Wondering who they are? This Hotline article from July explains how they're something of a Dem answer to groups like American Crossroads, as well as giving some legal background on just how it came to be that the super-wealthy can give endless money to 527s to spend endlessly on IEs.) Meanwhile, there are dueling ads in Washington. As one might expect, Patty Murray lets Dino Rossi hang himself with his own anti-Boeing words, while Rossi hits Murray on her support of tarps. (Since most Washingtonians own several tarps -- they only thing that allows them to go camping during the ten rainy months of the year -- I don't see what the big deal is.)

WV-Sen: The Dems are definitely getting active in here: the AFL-CIO is out with a huge direct mail blitz in West Virginia, and the DSCC is placing a major ad buy there starting tomorrow. In the meantime, John Raese, Tweeter and Facepage aficionado, is sticking to the GOP party line on global warming: it's all volcanoes' fault! (Wait... I thought it was sunspots. They'd better get their stories straight.)

AK-Gov: Bill Walker, after weeks of dithering in the wake of losing the GOP gubernatorial primary, has formally decided against a write-in bid (despite having an easier-to-spell name than Murkowski). No word on an endorsement of either Sean Parnell or Ethan Berkowitz, although Berkowitz has been steadily reaching out to Walker.

GA-Gov: With Nathan Deal not really having done much to deflect the attention being paid to his family's imminent financial collapse, now he's having to run damage control on another issue: his campaign is accused of having spent $135K to lease aircraft from a company where Deal himself is a part-owner. State ethics law bars candidates from using campaign funds for personal benefit, although the open legal question here is whether this turns into "personal benefit."

NM-Gov: Third Eye Strategies for Diane Denish (9/21-23, likely voters, no trendlines):

Diane Denish (D): 46
Susana Martinez (R): 46
Undecided: 7
(MoE: ±4.4%)

This is kind of odd... we just got a Diane Denish internal poll from a totally different pollster (GQR) in the middle of last week. Does she have two different pollsters working for her? At any rate, the news is decidedly better in this one, showing a tie where last week's poll had her down by 5.

TX-Gov: Blum & Weprin for Texas newspapers (9/15-22, likely voters, 2/2-10 in parentheses):

Bill White (D): 39 (37)
Rick Perry (R-inc): 46 (43)
Kathie Glass (L): 4 (-)
Deb Shafto (G): 1 (-)
Undecided: 8 (13)
(MoE: ±3.9%)

The Texas race is extremely stable (check out the flatness in Pollster's regression lines, with a mid-single-digits spread). While I'd like to think that Bill White can get over 50% on his own, his best hope at this point might be for Libertarian candidate Kathie Glass to start taking a bigger share (presumably out of Rick Perry's hide, via the same crowd who went for Debra Medina in the primary).

FL-24: Hamilton Campaigns for Suzanne Kosmas (9/22-23, likely voters, 8/25-29 in parentheses):

Suzanne Kosmas (D-inc): 45 (43)
Sandy Adams (R): 43 (49)
Undecided: 12 (9)
(MoE: ±3.7%)

This is the first internal we've seen from Team Kosmas, and while it's not the kind of numbers that fill you with great confidence (up 2 in one's own internal), it is an indicator that we're still looking at a Tossup here instead of Lean R (which is where some of the other prognosticators have been sticking this one). The movement in Kosmas's direction suggests that voters have found out more about the crazier side of Adams in the wake of her surprise primary victory.

MS-04: Tarrance Group for Steven Palazzo (9/21-22, likely voters, December 2009 Tarrance Grop poll for NRCC in parentheses):

Gene Taylor (D-inc): 45 (68)
Steven Palazzo (R): 41 (24)
(MoE: ± ?%)

There were reports last week that the NRCC was starting to smell smoke in this race (despite having an underfunded, low-name-rec candidate in Palazzo), and was going to try out a round of polling. Seems like their hunch may be right, as long-time Rep. Gene Taylor (who hasn't given Dems much reason to take interest in him lately... well, ever, really) is up only by single-digits in a new poll from the Palazzo camp.

PA-10: Momentum Analysis for Chris Carney (9/23-25, likely voters, no trendlines):

Chris Carney (D-inc): 46
Tom Marino (R): 38
Undecided: 17
(MoE: ±4.9%)

Chris Carney, having been slightly on the wrong end of a public poll from the Times-Leader (and on the very wrong end of that sketchy AFF poll last month), rolls out an internal giving him an 8-point lead over Tom Marino. Marino (who's pretty underfunded, although the NRCC is starting to get involved) is little-known (only 26/24 faves), so this is going to be one of many races where the Dem's survival is based on localizing in order to fend off Generic R.

PA-16: I'm not sure what to make of this: the uphill campaign of Lois Herr (going against Joe Pitts in the 16th, which is solidly Republican but moved a lot in the Dems' direction in 2008) is out with a second internal poll from PPP that has her within single digits of the GOP incumbent. Pitts leads 41-34, which seems kind of bizarre considering that we're seeing polls in Pennsylvania with incumbent Dems losing by larger margins than that in much friendlier districts.

SD-AL: Bennett Petts and Normington for Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (9/22-23, likely voters, no trendlines):

Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-inc): 51
Kristi Noem (R): 38
Undecided: 10
(MoE: ±4.9%)

Here's one race that seems to be becoming a little more comfortable for the Democrats. (Recall that Herseth Sandlin led in the last Rasmussen poll of this race, after months of trailing.) I wonder how much of that has to do with the reveal of Noem's atrocious driving record, given voters' memories of leadfooted ex-Rep. Bill Janklow?

DLCC: If you're looking to really micro-target your financial contributions to where your dollars get stretched the furthest and the leverage is the greatest (given the knife-edges on which many state legislatures, and the entire 2012 redistricting process, rest) the DLCC has rolled out its "Essential Races" program. This points to some of the tightest races in the tightest chambers; the link details their first wave of 20.

CA-Init: There are some Field Poll leftovers to look at, concerning three of the biggest initiatives on the ballot this year. The news is good all around, although the margins aren't decisive: Proposition 19 (marijuana legalization) is passing 49-42 (it was failing 44-48 in the July Field Poll). Proposition 23 (undoing greenhouse gases limiting legislation) is failing 34-45. And maybe most importantly, Proposition 25 (allowing budget passage with a simple majority) is passing 46-30.

Florida: Mason-Dixon's latest Florida poll (we gave you Sen and Gov numbers over the weekend) has a lot of miscellany in the fine print that's worth checking out. They find the GOP leading narrowly in three major downballot races: Pam Bondi leads Dan Gelber in the AG race 38-34, Jeff Atwater leads Loranne Ausley in the CFO race 29-27, and Adam Putnam leads Scott Maddox in the Ag Comm race 36-32. They also find that Amendment 4 has a shot at passing; it's up 53-26, although bear in mind that you need to clear 60% for a Florida initiative. Amendment 4 would require localities to put changes to comprehensive zoning plans up to a public vote; Josh Goodman has a good discussion of it today along with several other initiatives in other states that may pass despite having both sides of the entire political establishment lined up against them.

SSP TV:
FL-Sen: Marco Rubio rolls out his first ad en espanol, a biographical spot
PA-Sen: How many freakin' ads has Pat Toomey come out with? Anyway, here's another one
CT-02: Joe Courtney stresses his independence, especially regarding TARP
CT-05: Chris Murphy's new ad focuses on stopping outsourcing
PA-03, PA-11: The DCCC is out with new ads in the 3rd and 11th, continuing the trends of hitting Mike Kelly as out-of-touch millionaire and hitting Lou Barletta for sucking as Hazleton mayor

Rasmussen:
AL-Sen: William Barnes (D) 30%, Richard Shelby (R-inc) 58%
CT-Sen: Richard Blumenthal (D) 50%, Linda McMahon (R) 45%
DE-Sen: Chris Coons (D) 49%, Christine O'Donnell (R) 40%, Mike Castle (I) 5%
GA-Sen: Michael Thurmond (D) 36%, Johnny Isakson (R-inc) 52%
IA-Gov: Chet Culver (D-inc) 37%, Terry Branstad (R) 55%
ND-Sen: Tracy Potter (D) 25%, John Hoeven (R) 68%
SC-Sen: Alvin Greene (D) 21%, Jim DeMint (R-inc) 64%

Crisitunity :: SSP Daily Digest: 9/27 (Afternoon Edition)
Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email

Gene Taylor
I know this was discussed in the previous thread, but Gene Taylor could have switched a long time ago so he is doing us a favor by staying in our caucus.  The mam believes in spending money, helping the poor and by all accounts has great constituent services.

We've all likely seen some of the town halls he holds all over his district and we know the kind of crap that he has to put up with.  

Please donate to amcharities.org to help build more after school centers in the Miami area.  

23, Democrat, IA-2


That poll will hopefully get him to ratchet up his campaign.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Agreed.
Though Taylor doesn't have quite as ballsy a record as Chet Edwards does.

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent

[ Parent ]
True, he's not Chet Edwards, but ...
... I think both men have had the character to do what they think is the correct thing to do (regardless of who on the left or right they piss off) and let the chips fall where they may.  While I will never support the same social agenda Congressman Taylor does, I'll also always have a tremendous amount of respect for the work he's done for his still Katrina-ravaged constituents.

[ Parent ]
NV-Sen: Angle: Insurance mandates are product of government bowing to "politically correct special interest"
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blo...
This audio was recorded on August 10th, released today (by Dem insiders, I suspect) since Sec. Sebelius is in Nevada explaining what new changes are now in effect from HCR.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Jon Ralston's snarky "idea" of what "politically correct special interests" would include:
"Such as Big Autism or Big Colonoscopies or Big Pregnant Women, perhaps?"

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
where did the whole
they only support X b/c of "political correctness" come from?  seems like lots of tea partiers are blaming political correctness on all kinds of stuff.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
I don't know, but they're making the term "political correctness" lose all meaning
from all of the times they use it ab nauseum.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
it ties into their railing against "elitism"
And their fear of being told their lifestyle is wrong and they need to change their ideas and word choices.  Which is why they also hate science now, and also the federal government.

[ Parent ]
FL-24
A political blog in the local Orlando Sentinel newspaper points to Rothenberg's latest take on the race, which is not good for Kosmas. The takeaway line: "It's over. Sandy Adams now is virtually certain to win this seat in November." He doesn't cite any polls directly though, and it's interesting that his analysis came out just a day after (Sept 24.) Kosmas' poll was in the field.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.c...


Rothenberg is a joke (and has been for a while now)
Hasn't had anything positive to say for a Dem (other than Bright and Boren, the most grotesque of the blue dogs) for the better part of 5 years.

Not quite sure what happened to the guy, but he is hard-wired to spin for Republicans and conservatives.  Some of his online analysis is half-way decent, but his teevee time is unwatchable and most of his horserace stuff nowadays is just plain RNC talking points.


[ Parent ]
Stu Rothenberg in April 2009:
...the chance of Republicans winning control of either chamber in the 2010 midterm elections is zero. Not "close to zero." Not "slight" or "small." Zero.

http://rothenbergpoliticalrepo...


21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Wow.
That whole article is just a huge bag of fail.

[ Parent ]
To be fair
In April 2009 I would have said the same thing.

[ Parent ]
Me too, but we're not paid to make these predictions
This is a guy who's whole career is based on knowing politics.  That fact that he can be so utterly wrong and face no accountability at all seems wrong.      

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
That makes him no different from almost all the other so-called "pundits"
They spew bullshit on national TV over and over again, then explain why their predictions were the opposite of what actually happened. And they never get fired, unless they say something so outrageous that it offends a huge segment of their viewership, never for repeated, gross inaccuracy. I say that without prejudice to Rothenburg, himself, though the quote above speaks for itself.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Exactly
I want to be a pundit: as long as I'm mildly interesting and sound knowledgeable I will have complete job security.    

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Rothenberg
I remember reading that article, but not the specifics.  Just read it again - what a scream!  Every single point that he made in it was wrong.  The accuracy of that article was zero.  Not 'close to zero.'  Not 'slight' or 'small.'  Zero.

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22

[ Parent ]
That's jumping the gun, don't you think?
It'll be uphill and Kosmas will have to pull out every stop to win, but to call it "already lost" is stupid.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Agree.
In my own head I've got this race as a slight R lean, completely based on the national environment. Kosmas still has a pretty huge money advantage, and her long ties to Volusia County (the largest of the 4 counties in the district) will make it harder for Adams' campaign to re-define her.

[ Parent ]
I also
don't see how a +2 internal poll makes this race a toss-up though (front page). Isn't the general rule that you knock off at least 6 points on an internal. I guess that almost puts it in the M.O.E. but still....

[ Parent ]
But the race is far from lost.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
There's no general rule about internals
For example, as James pointed out a while ago, Nye's internals in VA-2 showed him narrowly losing shortly before the election yet he won.  I imagine campaigns put their best poll out when they release the internals, but that doesn't mean they're exaggerations.  I'm always a little wary with them, but there's no good rule about knocking off points or adding.


21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Well actually the rule is
You add 4.69% to each candidate depending whether or not they a name ending in a vowel (Y included).

Of course, if it's a Thursday, then the rule is everyone gets a free 10%! :P

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
first post
Agreed that there is no "good rule" about knocking points off.

Nye and some other freshman Dems that "were trailing in their own internals back in 06 and 08" have something in common with 2010 GOP challengers--they were less-known challengers running with the wind at their back.  Kosmas is the incumbent.
Although "the 50% rule" is overstated, it is a bad sign for Kosmas (and dozens of incumbent Ds like her) when the likely best-case-scenario internals show her in the mid-40s in a dead heat against a less known challenger.

As to Rothenburg, like him, I would never in a million years guessed the GOP would be where they are now in 4/09...  The more important story is that few incumbent Ds 1.5 yrs ago expected this either and are likely in big trouble.  

I suspect that, like in 06, many of the biggest casualties will come in late-developing races and second tier races.  
Sure Dems say they "knew it would be a tough year"--tough for Periello, Kratovil, etc. and in places like Tennessee.  I don't think they expected Patrick Murphy wiped out by Toomey's (!) coattails.  As in this is more an existential crisis for the "emerging democratic majority," than merely giving back gains in improbable districts and places that they were on borrowed time in or represented an older alignment.  


[ Parent ]
Can't disagree
But will add that people expected to lose will win.

[ Parent ]
I will disagree with one more point where our new friend is quite wishful......
The notion that this is an "existential crisis" for the emergeing Democratic majority is silly.

The emerging majority is long-term, not short-term or even medium-term.  There is no argument that suburban swing seats remain suburban swing seats for some years, and that Republicans and even conservatives can win there and hold those seats for a time.

But eventually they go the way of IL-10, which Abner Mikva surrendered in the late 70s because the suburbs were moving right, and it remained a cleary center-RIGHT district for a generation until the past decade, when it drifted in our direction and has become clearly center-LEFT.  Suburban Philly isn't completely there yet, but parts of it are, like Montgomery County with Alyson Schwarz's seat.

Fitzpatrick might beat Murphy this time, and he might survive 2012, but he's not going to be there long-term.

I'm in Fairfax County, Virginia, and the same trend has happened here.  It was clearly center-right in the 90s, it's clearly center-left now, and it's still moving.  Republicans have no realistic hope of winning control of the County Government in the forseeable future, and Democrats hold all but a few state legislative seats.  And Gerry Connolly's ascension to VA-11 is part of the trend.

The fact is people of color are becoming an ever-larger share of the electorate, and the Republican Party can't seem to stop itself from insulting and offending and alienating us at every turn.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Emerging majority is long-term
Famous last words! Eventually:

(a) The Republican Party will moderate again (or, much more unlikely, be replaced by another more or less right-wing mainstream party)
(b) The children and grandchildren of immigrants of color may advance socioeconomically, such that a vote for Republicans can be perceived by them as a vote their economic self-interests.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
From Nate Silver today:
"In the meantime, an internal poll released by Mr. Blumenthal's campaign gives him a 12-point advantage - although since internal polls "cheat," on average, by about 5 or 6 points in their candidate's direction, it is not
necessarily incompatible with the independent polling."

[ Parent ]
Fallacy of averages
Bill Gates and nine homeless guys have an average net worth of $5,400,000,000.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Not really
It just means sometimes they lean more than 5 points and sometimes less.

[ Parent ]
My point was that an average isn't a hard and fast rule
Which is why it's a fallacy to use an average to create a hard and fast rule. Silver's model does take numbers off of polling based on bias, but that bias is observed relative to other polls, but even then his model isn't perfect and should be taken like any other model or forecast, a perfectly valid (and perhaps even stellar) prediction based on numbers and polling, but a prediction nonetheless.

My opinion is that an internal poll should be taken with a grain of salt, but if it corroborates existing polling then it's probably on the level.  

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
It certainly isn't hard and fast
I don't see how anybody could seriously argue it is. But IMO it seems as good a way as any to take any obvious bias out of their release. Though interestingly Charlie Cook chimes in to say that "probably 90% of the public polling in statewide and district races is mediocre at best, and much of it is very close to worthless."

http://www.nationaljournal.com...

Rothenberg argued the same thing recently.

http://rothenbergpoliticalrepo...

The caveat of course is that much of the stuff that sees the light of day is selective.


[ Parent ]
Though this is patently false
"In the stronger part of the Democratic Toss Up races are Barbara Boxer in California, Patty Murray in Washington, and the open seat in Connecticut -- but in each of these races, the odds are no better than 50-50 for Democrats."

[ Parent ]
Yeah, that's BS
Boxer, Murray, and Blumenthal clearly have a much better than 50-50 chance of winning.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Kind of a self-serving argument
on Cook and Rothenberg's part, is it not?  Seems like they want their readers to draw the inference "insiders like us have access to higher-quality private polls, so you should take whatever we have to say very seriously indeed."

Well, today ol' Charlie said "In the stronger part of the Democratic Toss Up races are Barbara Boxer in California, Patty Murray in Washington, and the open seat in Connecticut -- but in each of these races, the odds are no better than 50-50 for Democrats."

Really?  I'll take that bet, best of three wins.  Easy money!


[ Parent ]
Sorry for the repeat
I stepped away mid-comment and my thunder was stolen before I could finish.  You guys are good!

[ Parent ]
I don't dismiss Rothenberg like others here, and the linked story links a follow-up piece by Rothenberg that elaborates...
...on his take even while citing the new Kosmas poll.  He basically says even though she's improved, she's still stuck in the mid-40s and now Republicans will unload attack ads on her which they've done little of earlier (most ad buys to date were hers).

I can understand Rothenberg's take.

That said, he's prone to hyperbole, moreso than other prognosticators, as the April 2009 column linked in this thread demonstrated regarding GOP chances of taking the House.

Kosmas might very well tank going forward, and maybe Rothenberg has seen this story played out often enough to know that's exactly what's likely.

But I still agree that his dismissal of Kosmas' chances is hyperbolic.

Kosmas is, FWIW, among the most vulnerable of vulnerable Dems anyway, so even if she's toast, you gotta go a lot further down everyone's race rankings before you get to the "rubber match" races that decide House control.  If Kosmas still is among the "most vulnerable" in Rothenberg's and others' minds even after her released internal, then I feel a lot better about the races down in the high 30s and low 40s.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
TX-Gov
Not sure what to make of the polling.  Perry's support has been static for a long time, which makes sense; he's been Governor for ten years, so basically everybody in Texas has made up their minds on him already, and I really don't see him having that much room to improve.

Interesting to note, White's favorables are at 40/20, so he's (a) still unknown to 40 percent of the electorate, and (b) doing pretty well among those who do know about him.  Perry's approval ratings as governor are at 44/38.

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent


NC-02: Anderson Cooper mops the floor with Renee Ellmers.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

I still am rather baffled her first ad was about the Islamic Center.  She's a nurse FFS, why not start off with a positive bio spot about her time as an RN?

Well, see the embedded vid at the link and enjoy watching AC grind her down into Ellmers glue.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Let me embed the video here for convenience:


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
A snarky rhetorical question:
Are Renee Ellmers and former Rep. Bill Sali" estranged fraternal twins?  They seem to be cut from the same divisive cloth.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
DLCC
Their political analysis who came up with this list should pass whatever shit they're smoking.  The point is looking forward to redistricting and they've got two seats in MT and only one in TX.

Good news from ARG:
http://polltracker.talkingpoin...
Kuster is only behind Bass by 2, according to it.
I think we have a good shot at keeping this seat Democratic.  Kuster is a strong fundraiser and a good campaigner.  Bass is well-known, but tired and uninspiring.  He also seems to be under the weather lately.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Kuster has a shot
I base that feeling on many things - none of which include this poll.

[ Parent ]
That poll
has officially obtained Just Plain Weird status.

But I agree that Kuster has a good chance.  Having a candidate who can excite the volunteer base is hugely important for running well in the district's numerous small towns, so we definitely chose the right candidate there.

From MO-3, college in CT-3, lived in NH-1, NH-2, PA-2, and MA-8 in the 3 years since.


[ Parent ]
What's so weird about it?
The toplines and crosstabs all seem to fit, and no group looks to be over- or under-sampled.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
There is something really stupid about...
Showing Lynch leading only by 2, Hodes behind by double digits, yet Kustler only behind by 2? I've said it before, but ARG is a piece of crap pollster and I don't believe anything that comes out of them, good news or bad.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Agree, Kuster is NOT performing the same as Lynch. And ARG historically has been...
...a poor pollster whose numbers frequently depart from the totality of polling.

The NH-Gov numbers in particular are a joke, you don't see 18% undecided with a 6-year incumbent Governor running for reelection.  That just doesn't happen.

And as much as I want to believe the Kuster numbers, I can't without credible corroboration of some kind.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
I don't know them very well
I only really started tracking individual polls after 2008, so I can't speak for their history, but I can say that their final poll of MA-Sen was 52-45 Brown--not at all far from the actual 52-47 result.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
I agree with DGM and DCCyclone

The poll seems a joke.

Hodes -14%
Lynch +2%
Shea-Porter -10%
Kuster -2%

Hodes is the incumbent of Kuster's seat. Do you imagine many voters voting for Kuster and for Ayotte? If not, can you think Hodes would be in 25% in SheaPorter district?

This are the maths of this poll. If Hodes is in 4% in his own district must be in 24% in Shea-Porter district for have a overall -14%.


[ Parent ]
edition

In the first paragraph is - 25%

In the second are - 4% and - 24%.


[ Parent ]
Kuster
is hard at work campaigning and has put a lot into building herself a turnout organization.  

The mystery to me is why Hodes is floundering so.  Ayotte is stuck at 45-46% but he's just not getting his act together consolidating D support.


[ Parent ]
But Guinta leads by 10 in NH-1
Which somewhat surprises me.  I know NH-2 is the more Democratic district, but Guinta has had some ethical problems and Bass is well known.  Anyway, it's ARG, so who knows how accurate it is.

[ Parent ]
Like NH-02, that doesn't strike me as an outlier
Shea-Porter is really not the kind of Democrat who fits that district (the only one in New England to vote for Bush, as it did both times), and even if NH-01 is becoming a Democratic district, she's probably not the long-term answer there. I wouldn't be surprised to see Guinta win this comfortably despite his ethics and then get taken out by a more moderate Democrat in 2012.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Guinta
I think he might be vulnerable to a primary if Republicans could rally around one candidate, especially if he seems headed towards defeat.  

[ Parent ]
Guinta
Is not going to win. End of story.

[ Parent ]
Basis?


28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
The last poll of the Univ of NH

gives to Shea-Porter +5%. This can be a good basis.

[ Parent ]
How reliable
is UNH?

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
About as unreliable as ARG
Seriously, only PPP and to some extent Rasmussen are worth watching.

[ Parent ]
That was in July
Things could have changed since then. Not saying that they have, but a 15-point swing in a House race over 3 months isn't impossible, especially since there's been a primary since then.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Beware of anything from ARG
but it is interesting that the incumbent is in worse shape.

[ Parent ]
Heinrich
leads Barela 50-43% according to a PPP/Daily Kos poll.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


I don't know who's idea it was to poll this race...
but it would be nice if Daily Kos were polling races that were underpolled in the House.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
Now I see we will be getting other NM numbers.
n/t

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
Yeah, Kos tweeted all House races look better than he "feared," but Denish not so hot. (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Through the magic of changing the URL
Pearce by 1, and Lujan by 6.

According to PPP, the Dem's best district this fall is NM-1.


[ Parent ]
There's something wrong with the NM-02 and NM-03 sample
No way in hell is Martinez winning NM-03 while losing NM-01, NM-03 is both more Democratic and more liberal than NM-03 (especially the white vote).

Plus, they got a pretty large Hispanic sample for NM-02, IMHO. It makes me think that PPP might be overstating Teague's position (and I hope I'm wrong about that).

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
When PPP
polled the governor's race over the summer, they found Martinez was winning a ton of votes in NM-03, which explained why she was leading Denish. Martinez just has a natural pull among Hispanics + she's the DA of a heavily Democratic county.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Look at those cross-tabs again
Denish has an 18 point lead among Hispanics in NM-03 but is tied in NM-01, which itself doesn't make much sense (major caveat, smaller sample size = large margin of error), but Denish is also doing worse among the White vote in NM-03 than in NM-01, despite the extremely liberal college towns of Taos and Santa Fe being in NM-03. Plus, PPP's sample shows NM-03 being less liberal than NM-01.

It leaves me not all that confident in the samples they took.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
One other thing
No way is Obama's approval rating lower in NM-03 than it is in NM-01.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
According to the NM-01 part, Denish leads Martinez by 1 in district
Which probably means something close to a 3-4 point lead statewide (NM-01 is usually somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5 points more Democratic than the state).

Still, it makes me wonder how far off I am about Teague and Lujan, I could easily see Teague leading, but I'll stick to my 47-46 Pearce prediction for the time being.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
You are scary good, DGM......
DGM:  Pearce 47, Teague 46
PPP:  Pearce 48, Teague 47

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Yes it's true, I see into the future
Can't reveal the congressional elections though, what fun would that be? :D

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
WI-Sen: Earlier this year, Ron Johnson represented
the Green Bay Diocese Finance Council in opposing the Child Victims Bill, which would create exceptions in the statute of limitations for victims of abuse.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/...
And here's the video that goes along with it:


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


*for children who were victims of sexual abuse


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
This needs to appear in an ad TOMORROW!
With clear context, explaining that he is favoring people who raped and molested children against the rights of the defenseless young victims. I think this could torpedo his chances of victory, if played right.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
PA-16
I'm hopeful here, but I'm not optimistic.  I know the last internal, which had them down nine, was not exactly straight up.

From my experience doing polling for a major network while in college, the candidate ask comes first (after some screening questions).  

The last Herr internal (which was posted for all to see in their campaign office) led with a handful of questions regarding Pitts' incumbency and how voters feel about long term incumbents.  After those questions, it makes the horse race ask.

Not to be too mean, but those are generally referred to as something that rhymes with "smush smoll."  And it still had them down nine.

I can't say if this poll was conducted the same way, but I'm not optimistic based off the previous work I've seen from PPP.


Thanks, and the proper name for that kind of result is...
...the "informed ballot test," NOT push poll.

A push poll in the industry is NOT a poll at all, but really a voter contact call to help a candidate, disguised very superficially as a poll; no results are tabulated, it's just to spread dirt on an opponent.

The campaign poll you're talking about is a conventional and perfectly honest form of polling to see how different types of information or "messages," both positive and negative, affect voters' ultimate choice in voting.

But releasing the "informed ballot" result is obviously misleading if not revealed to be the informed ballot.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
No, it didn't
The last Herr poll did NOT lead "with a handful of questions regarding Pitts' incumbency."  And if you email me, I'll show you that.

walter at teamblue dot org


[ Parent ]
And with respect to the "informed voter" question
In this most recent poll, the polling memo's FIRST sentence reads: "A new survey in Pennsylvania's 16th Congressional District, conducted by Public Policy Polling, finds that challenger Lois Herr polls within the margin of error against 7 term Congressman Joe Pitts when voters are made aware that Pitts has been in government for nearly 40 years."

Reading is Fundamental!


[ Parent ]
This poll is uncredible
And the first line in her email blast announcing it is:

"Brand new polling information shows me within 7 points of long-time incumbent Joe Pitts with 26% of voters still undecided."  

Even more fundamental than reading is not intentionally misleading your supporters.

This isn't some gray area.  Releasing this kind of crap and claiming it is legitimate polling results is pretty dishonest.  In fact, to quote James L. from a few weeks ago:

"For any poll to maintain its credibility, the toplines need to be asked at the start (or at least, no later than right after the favorables, as PPP does it)."  

The entire point of this poll is to get people to say "I'll vote for Lois Herr," not to provide any accurate picture of what is going on.  Great move for a campaign trying to trump up attention.  But anyone who takes this seriously should probably stop trying to follow politics.


[ Parent ]
The order of the questions in each polling instrument . . .
. . . was "as PPP does it," I presume, as in fact, PPP designed the instruments, not the campaign.

These were both 8-question, push-button polls, with the questions in this order: Re-elect number, Pitts approval, Herr approval, horse race, party affiliation, ethnicity, age.

The "informing" in the recent poll (not in the May one) consisted solely of the following sentence at the beginning of the re-elect (first) question): "Joe Pitts has been in government for almost 40 years, 14 in Washington."

As to "intentionally misleading [your] supporters," that is crap and itself misleading.  


[ Parent ]
Well, then
When the Herr Campaign releases the poll, or an independent poll is released, I'll believe this is legit.  But considering how badly she lost in 2006, I don't believe this at all.

[ Parent ]
As I said above . . .
my email address is walter at teamblue dot org. Send me an emaila nd I'll send you the poll, including tabs

[ Parent ]
CA-Gov, Lt. Gov: Bill Clinton sets up Actblue page
to raise money for Brown and Newsom.  It's nice to see they've more or less buried the hatchet.  http://www.actblue.com/page/br...

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


Newsome has raised more money than brown on act blue?!
WTF?!  Does Newsome really have that big of a following?  I live in SF, and a lot of people weren't too keen on his initial Gubernatorial run before he pulled out and went for Lt. Gov.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

[ Parent ]
It would appear that his campaign website uses ActBlue for donations
[ Parent ]
I
hope Bill Clinton cuts an ad for Jerry Brown to prove they buried the hatchet and to get under eMeg's skin.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
That will seal the deal.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


[ Parent ]
Lois Herr and PA-16
You're not wrong when you say that a 7-point Pitts lead, with 26% undecided "seems kind of bizarre considering that we're seeing polls in Pennsylvania with incumbent Dems losing by larger margins than that in much friendlier districts."

Not to put too fine a point on it, but right now this race looks like the closest competitive race in the state, including US Sen and Gov.

But the dynamic of this race appears to be very district-centric and somewhat outside the national (or even state) norms. The people in PA-16 are simply tiring of Joe Pitts, who's been in Congress for 15 years, and was in the PA House for 22 years before that.

If he had been primaried, he might have lost. If Herr has any money at all to drive her message of Pitts being "too wrong for too long," she may have a shot at a unique upset. TV is ridiculously cheap in the district.


Maybe the generic ballot is tightening
New Gallup is 46-46. Now, granted that is with RV but better than losing heavily with those people as had been the case before last week. It'll probably spike towards the Republicans again in seven days but for now I'll take it.

Curious
I'm curious to see what it will be when they go to LV as they are showing such a large enthusiasm gap.

43 - Male - GOP/Libertarian - FL 22

[ Parent ]
Historically
The average is four points favoring the GOP I believe.

[ Parent ]
I don't know if I put too much in the Palazzo internal
First off I don't trust internals from both parties to begin with as I look at them to give a candidate the results they want so they can give them a edge where there really isn't much of a egde. I also don't trust polls conducted from partisan candidates for a candidate for the obviously.

I think Taylor is up more that what the poll from the Terrence Group suggest and I don't think Pallazzo poses a threat as he has very little money with just weeks away from the election. This poll won't make me sweat. I'm not saying Palazzo is a some dude that can't be taken lightly as he is a State Rep and Taylor won't win by a major blow out (i'm saying winning by 10 or so points) due to the climate but I won't move this race just because of one GOP internal made specically for the candidate running againist Taylor.


Scoreboard

Senate: Republicans gain 7

Republican pickups (7): AR, CO, IL, IN, ND, PA, WI

House: Republicans gain 34

Republican pickups (39): AR-01, AR-02, AZ-01, AZ-05, CO-03, CO-04, FL-02, FL-24, IL-11, IL-14, IN-08, KS-03, LA-03, MD-01, MI-01, MI-07, MS-01, ND-AL, NH-01, NH-02, NM-02, NY-19, NY-29, OH-01, OH-15, OH-16, PA-03, PA-07, PA-08, PA-11, TN-06, TN-08, TX-17, TX-23, VA-02, VA-05, WA-03, WI-07, WI-08

Democratic pickups (5): DE-AL, FL-25, HI-01, IL-10, LA-02

Governors: Republicans gain 6

Republican pickups (13): IA, IL, KS, ME, MI, NM, OH, OK, OR, PA, TN, WI, WY

Democratic pickups (7): CA, CT, FL, HI, MN, RI, VT

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


CO-03?
n/t

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
Tipton released an internal with a 6-point lead.
Salazar released hot air about how that poll was wrong and he's ahead.  Good enough for me to believe Tipton is up.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
My Senate Scoreboard
Your Senate projection is about where I have mine right now.  Realistically the floor would be these 7 plus WV and NV which still would only net 50 seats. I don't see Murray and Boxer as seriously in danger now. They have recognized their position and proactively pounded their opponent. Right now the Dems can realistically do some work (in order of possibility that it will work) to limit their losses to 5 as I have ND, AR and IN as goners with PA and WI as likely goners and harder to change at this point.
1. I know that Alexi is a terrible candidate but so is Kirk. This race has really taken a huge backseat and I really have to think that in a state this blue with Obama as the President that turnout is going to have to improve and will only help Alexi as Kirk is not generating massive enthusiasm. I don't see Brady being able to carry Kirk as Brady is more of an anti-Blago then anything else. This is a very expensive state but an investment in Chicago would pay major dividends. Team blue really didn't help themselves in recruiting here.
2. Dems need to put whatever they can into helping Michael Bennet. Buck is going to be able to draw out the base this year but Bennet needs to continue to hammer him for some of his views (abortion, high heels, student loans are unconstitutional, etc.) and get that Denver turnout. Colorado has been fast trending towards team blue so it is possible to get those voters out.
3. Conway needs to get it in gear as KY is a legitimate pickup opportunity now. This is the best chance at a takeover now. Pound at Paul for his statements and you will make the race a choice about him representing you and not a choice on Obama.
4. Hodes needs to tie Ayotte to Sarah Palin. I know that she is not on the ballot but if it wasn't for Palin's endorsement Ayotte would have lost the primary. If anything it can help ease the energy gap in a state that Obama won by 10 points which may be what is needed to shift the margin just a bit.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

[ Parent ]
Those are four important races.
The problem with CO and IL is that neither Bennet nor Giannoulias have a very compelling case for why you the voter should elect them Senator.  They are both young and relatively inexperienced.  And Giannoulias has the mob banker baggage and Bennet has the baggage from his tenure as head of Denver public schools.  Thank goodness both of them have deeply flawed opponents to attack instead.

Tend to agree that KY and NH are the best pickup opportunities, so why is the DSCC spending $5MM in MO and nothing in those states to my knowledge?

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11


[ Parent ]
Alexi and Michael
Agree with you that Alexi and Michael are not getting the base fired up to vote for them but the infrastructure in the state (ie CO fast trending blue with target rich voters in Denver and Boulder and IL with the Cook County base) means that a win here is more realistic and plausible. Alexi has the bank baggage but Kirk has the honesty baggage. Very bad choice I know but given the partisan nature of the state you have to think that any increased turnout in essentially a jump ball has to benefit team blue. Spending any money in MO is a waste and is totally dumb. I like Carnahan but she is toast in this climate. Put the money to use in Kentucky and New Hampshire where we have a better then 30% chance to win.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

[ Parent ]
How do you figure you can make such a definitive statement about MO?
You know for sure that spending money there is a waste? Carnahan may be trailing, but it's quite unclear that she is "toast." If Carnahan wins, I'll await your crow-eating. Boiled or fried?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Kirsten Gillibrand on TV
I just saw her ad on NYC broadcast for the first time.  

Chicago Mayor: Rahm getting a jump on the field
Word all over the interwebs is that Emmanuel will be leaving the White House on Friday to begin campaigning in earnest back home in Chicago. A smart move, since the local Congressmen probably won't be starting their mayoral campaigns until a month later, after the elections.

Anyone here from Chicago who can offer some perspective on Rahm's--and everyone else's--chances?

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


my "this will never happen" prediction
rahm runs and loses because of the stronger than anticipated anti-obama sentiment resulting in the dems losing the house.  the winner of the primary is a sitting house member.  the house member retires early to "campaign" and rahm runs for the now vacant house seat.  rahm wins and come 2012, obama wins re-election and rahm pulls a coup against the essentially exiled pelosi to become the first jewish speaker of the house.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
Hmmm.....
Sounds fun. I wonder if Mike Quigley has made up his mind on running yet.....if he wins, that opens Rahm's House seat right back up.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
nope. Chicago Mayor
My understanding is Chicago's system is all on one ballot on 2/22/11 (filing deadline 12/13). If no one gets 50%, the top two runoff 4/05. New mayor sworn in 5/16.
Therefore:
1. With almost every Chicago pol. eyeballing this, there could be a dozen legit candidates. Any anti-Obama/Rahm sentiment (if that really exists there) would be widely divided. Winner will likely to be less than 50%.
2. Fair assumption would be with Rahm's money & drive, he'd finish in the top two on 2/22.
3. If a Congressman is in the run-off, no way they'd resign for a mere 6-week runoff period.
4. Who knows who'll win the run-off. Might even be that Sheriff guy.

But... If a Congressman wins Mayor and creates an open seat, Rahm might run in a special election. I think Nancy P. would welcome him back into the House. Maybe put him back in charge of the DCCC to win back the House in 2012 (if we lose in Nov.)


[ Parent ]
Oh, God please no!!!
We need Rahm out of national politics... The man "won" congress in spite of his terrible advice (i.e. Howard Dean actually won it), and he's absolutely destroyed this presidency.

If there is any one person associated with the downfall of the Democratic party, it is Rahm.  


[ Parent ]
a minor surprise is David Hoffman isn't running.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/c...
He was Chicago's Inspector General, (so he has a profile in that city).
He left that job to run for IL Senate and came in second in the primary, just 5 points behind Giannoulias.

[ Parent ]
WV is now a pure tossup
CT is pure enthusiasm gap. Nutmeggers like Blumenthal and are meh on McMahon. Now moving that to tilts. Months ago I said it was possible the Senate could flip and not the House. I now think that shouldn't be dismissed so lightly.

[ Parent ]
Agree completely, but even CT-Sen is losable now without...
...Blumenthal and allies really hammering McMahon as unacceptable.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
I'm getting pretty meh myself now
The coming results are gonna hurt but will only serve Democrats right. And I'm not talking elected officials.

[ Parent ]
Yah, WV might be lost. Manchin still sky-high popular, but they're voting on national Dems now......
I don't know what Manchin can do to reverse this.  Well, not true, I DO know:  hammer Raese himself for whatever baggage Raese has.  I haven't followed the ad war in that race, I don't know what punches Manchin has thrown.  But his only chance is to disqualify Raese personally as someone who will be bad for the state.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
I love how Rasmussen
Is now a follower. Hell, he only polled it last week but seems to me he got spooked by PPP.

[ Parent ]
Thank goodness Manchin held the election this year
rather than 2012.  Right?

I guess he may well have the last two years of his term as governor to ponder his stupidity.


[ Parent ]
I still have him as narrow favorite
He has been outspent and outhustled so far but that can change.

[ Parent ]
I will repeat what I posted before......
Just ask John Lynch how long a 70% job approval lasts.  Not that long, even when you do nothing wrong.  And God forbid a tough decision comes along you weren't planning on having to make......then your numbers go down no matter what you decide.

When Manchin is sitting on 52% job approval in summer 2012, and Obama's job approval is still at 30% in the state (even if in the 50s nationally), and residents are still scared shitless that Obama and national Dems want to destroy the coal industry and their jobs, and are more concerned about giving "rights" to gays than about the needs of West Virginians......THEN how well do you think Manchin will do?  I bet no better than now.  And that doesn't even consider that in a long campaign, Manchin can only make more mistakes than in a short one.  Not to mention that Carte Goodwin would have 2 years to cast tough votes that reflect on Manchin himself, since Joe picked him......can you see the ads morphing Manchin and Goodwin if Goodwin casts a tough vote that conservatives hate?

Manchin was smart to do this NOW.  It was a smart gamble no matter what happens on election day.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Two quick points
(Gotta run).  Republicans couldn't use the "keep him as governor" argument in 2012.  And turnout will be bigger in 2012.  That could only favor a Democrat even given Obama's uunpopularity in the state.  The atmosophere could not be any worse then than it is this year.

[ Parent ]
But West Virginia is clearly becoming more Republican
I grant it didn't happen like Arkansas, but the fact that Obama did no better than Kerry in the state even as he did a lot better than him nationally is itself a sign of where West Virginia is going. There's no reason to believe that Obama's numbers in WV are going to recover that much relative to the rest of the country and Obama will actually be on the ticket in 2012.

And somehow, I get the feeling that the line of argument of keeping Manchin in the governor's mansion isn't all that helpful, especially given that Manchin's approvals will probably be lower than they are now (which will cost more than any abstract "we want to keep him in West Virginia as governor" argument ever would).

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Agree completely. The bottom line is that there's no reason to think the risk in 2012...
...would be greater than the risk now.  There's a tendency to get too wrapped up in the politics of the moment that we fail to see around the corner.

If this was a purple or blue state where this happened, whose partisan and ideological orientation was stable, then you could criticize Manchin for this because, indeed, things likely would be better in the state for federal Democrats in a couple years.

But WV is moving right in its politics, and it's in federal races where that starts.  It would've been a tough 2012 in WV just as it's a tough 2010.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
CT-Sen
Blumenthal internal says 52-40 but even that is tighter than last week. Close her out dammit.

I think he's still in decent shape
At least compared to Manchin.  Q's likely voters models have been ridiculously pro-Republican.  Even with that, Blumenthal's running 49-52 in the polls.  He just has to hang on to what he's got and expand the likely voter pool a little.

[ Parent ]
It does look like the enthusiasm gap
More than anything else when you look at the favorability numbers.

[ Parent ]
CT-Sen: Blumenthal lead cut to 3
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x129...

McMahon leads by 5 among Indies, and there's a 25-point gender gap. Looks like an awfully conservative voter model, though.

For daily political commentary, visit me at http://polibeast.blogspot.com/ and http://twitter.com/polibeast


She'll need to win indies by more
To have a shot. Dem internal is plus 12. He really needs to put her away though.

[ Parent ]
Chuck Todd says the polling disparity results from...
...differences in likely voter models.  These public polls are showing higher GOP enthusiasm, while Dem internals are showing that Dems eventually will show up, even if not with any enthusiasm.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Is that the article about PA-12?


[ Parent ]
I didn't see any article, just a tweet. If you know of an article, please share! (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Oh, thanks, I DID read that earlier today, and while it's the same basic point, it's unrelated to Todd's tweet. (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

[ Parent ]
Turnout and models
Seems to be very similar to what PPP talked about recently.

"We haven't had much positive to say for Democrats lately but here's a little glimmer of hope: in the New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Virginia elections so far this cycle the enthusiasm gap has lessened as the election got closer."

http://publicpolicypolling.blo...

I found the following very interesting too.

"The Democrats not voting are more pleased with how Obama's done than the Democrats who are voting. And when you're happy you simply don't have the sense of urgency about going out and voting to make something change."

In other words the people who think they did their job electing the president in 2008.


[ Parent ]
Gillibrand up 52-41 with LV
54-42 with leaners.

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/9...

55-36 with RV.


That looks about perfect to me
It's a Likely D race, although it's hard to fathom just how DioGuardi can catapult to the top. He needs much more than a 2-point advantage in the NYC suburbs, although he's already made serious inroads into Gillibrand's upstate home turf.

For daily political commentary, visit me at http://polibeast.blogspot.com/ and http://twitter.com/polibeast

[ Parent ]
Her problem has always been
People don't know her. First ads up now so she will be fine though don't see her breaking 60.

New FOX polls.

CO-Sen
Buck 47-43

WI-Sen
Johnson 52-44

WA-Sen
Murray 48-47

IL-Sen
Kirk 42-40

OH-Sen
Portman 50-37

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...

Considering the source I'm more hopeful in IL and CO.


[ Parent ]
More
WI-Gov
Walker 49-45

CO-Gov
Hickenlooper 44-34-15

IL-Gov
Brady 46-36

OH-Gov
Kasich 45-43


[ Parent ]
Oh, and reinforcing these polls are just Rasmussen by another name......
If you look at the question choices and results, they're the same as what you find in any Rasmussen poll, which is distinct from all other polling.

The health care repeal question is a constant where Rassy and now their offpsring always finds majorities wanting to repeal the law.  When anyone else polls this question, repeal is a minority within the Republican base.

It tells you something about Rasmussen's sampling, not something we didn't already know, but yet another point of evidence to establish that the samples are not so random after all.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Stunned at how quickly Wisconsin has changed
I think it's safe to say that it leapfrogs CO and IL and is now the 5th most vulnerable Democratic seat, after ND, AR, IN, and PA.

Looks like a holding pattern in CO and IL. Buck and Kirk are not putting it away, and there's still time for Bennet and Alexi to come back here. I think it would be wise to keep both at Tossup for now.

The WA-Sen poll looks like an outlier for now, since no one else has seen it that close over the past 3-4 weeks. It'll take polling from other sources before I believe that Rossi's made it close again.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08


[ Parent ]
Agree on all counts
Money is a big reason but obviously much more than that.

[ Parent ]
I give a lot of credit to those Johnson into ads with his family
I think they just went over really well and made him seem like a reasonable guy.

Kind of like Rick Synder's One Tough Nerd ads. It defined who he was early and let people like him.

Fight global warming & help disaster relief efforts by raising money for Music for Relief when you search the web! Click here for more info:
http://searchmfr.swagbucks.com...


[ Parent ]
should read intro ads
n/t

Fight global warming & help disaster relief efforts by raising money for Music for Relief when you search the web! Click here for more info:
http://searchmfr.swagbucks.com...


[ Parent ]
Put Faux and Rass together
and what do you get?  Pro-Republican results.  I'm just surprised they don't have Hickenlooper trailing.

[ Parent ]
In Washington perhaps
The others look the same as other polling. Though I would like to see more from Illinois.

[ Parent ]
And the Ohio gubernatorial numbers
Are very encouraging. They certainly call Quinnipiac's LV model into question.

[ Parent ]
IL-Sen remains the toughest race to guess the ultimate outcome because...
...of all the undecideds.

The winner is going to end up in the high 40s, but they're both so far down from that, that it's impossible to reasonably guess which one.  If this was any other state, Kirk would be a good guess, but Obama is still popular in his home state and wants to help Alexi over the finish line.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
The governor's race hurts Giannoulias without a doubt
But no matter what happens, Giannoulias should outperform Quinn, and the way that Brady is going to win is to get some Democrats and Democratic-leaning Independents to be too disgusted to vote for Quinn even though Brady is way too conservative for their tastes. I think you're going to see a number of voters who might have been more open to voting for Kirk decide to stick with Giannoulias just because it's a bit much to ask people who generally vote Democratic to vote for someone like Brady and then vote for another Republican (and one who would vote against Obama, the home-stater).

It's a bit of a far-fetched theory to be sure, but it might not be a bad idea to tie Kirk in with Brady even if Brady is going to win.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Ugh, you really think they'll vote for Brady?
Why wouldn't they vote for Rich Whitney?  Quite a few did in 2006, and Topinka was a much more palatable option than Brady.

[ Parent ]
Fair point
Though that makes my strategy point a little stronger I think.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
I support your strategy 100%
and would like to add: MOAR OBAMA NAO PLZ.

[ Parent ]
The Gov race does worry me, but I don't think your suggestion is a good idea for Alexi......
You just don't gamble on trying to guess how swing voters going against your party's Gov are thinking about different races.

Alexi just has to stay away from the Gov race altogether and keep just attacking Kirk, defining himself better, and tying himself to Obama.  The Gov race is poison for Alexi, he should never mention it, ever.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
And Rasmussen today does something remarkable: Obama job approval at 50-49......
I was waiting for today's digest to post this, but it's so late in the day we're already well into Tuesday campaign news and it's all getting posted here.

First time Rasmussen has Obama in positive territory since April.

Gallup is still 45-49 today, and other recent polls have Obama underwater.

So, Rasmussen probably just a statistical blip.

But at least it reinforces Obama isn't falling any further, and a month ago in the totality of polling it looked like he was; one week Gallup and Rassy both had Obama at a pitiful 41 a day or two apart.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
CA-44 Poll: Calvert under 50, Hedrick down by 11
http://www.hedrickforcongress....

The Hendrick Campaign is spinning this as really good, they apparently have gained 3 points since they last polled it, and find it really good that Calvert is under 50.

I think this is essentially going to stay republican (still going to get people in OC portion of the district to vote for him though), but I really think if Hendrick runs again in 2012, he has a REALLY good chance of winning.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)



Copyright 2003-2010 Swing State Project LLC

Primary Sponsor

You're not running for second place. Is your website? See why Campaign Engine is ranked #1 in software and support among Progressive-only Internet firms. http://www.mediamezcla.com/

Menu

Make a New Account

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?


About the Site

SSP Resources

Blogroll

Powered by: SoapBlox