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MA-Gov: Patrick Has 7-Point Lead Over Baker

by: Crisitunity

Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM EDT


Suffolk (9/14-16, registered voters, 5/20-23 in parentheses):

Deval Patrick (D-inc): 41 (42)
Charlie Baker (R): 34 (29)
Tim Cahill (I): 14 (14)
Jill Stein (G): 4 (8)
Undecided: 6 (7)
(MoE: ±4.4%)

Suffolk is one pollster that I trust to get Massachusetts right (other states, not so much, but recall that they nailed the MA-Sen special election's 5-pt margin and even some individual bellwether towns). As in previous polls, they find Deval Patrick in fairly durable shape against Charlie Baker, but that's mostly because of an assist from Tim Cahill, an ex-Dem who's a wedge right through the anti-Patrick vote. The 7-point margin is a little bigger than the average of all polling (although that average is pretty heavily Rasmussen-based).

Two words of caution, though: one is that among voters who actually know both candidates (16% of voters still haven't heard of Baker), Baker leads 39-38. The other is that this is a registered voter model, which may be worth a few points to Patrick. However, here's a hypothesis I have: there's probably less enthusiasm gap here than in a lot of other states. Recent polling has shown much less of an enthusiasm gap in solidly blue states (California, Washington) and red states (Kentucky, Texas, Louisiana) than in the swingiest of states (Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania). Guess which category Massachusetts falls in?

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Aww
no Redmentum for the Massachusetts GOP here. Though maybe Scott Brown could work his magic and help the GOP snatch the seat in MA-10 away from the Democrats.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

What
I meant was Scott Brown could help campaign for the GOP nominee in MA-10. (They are good friends I believe).

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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More likely
It is more likely the Republicans will take MA-10 than MA-GOV at this point.  I am not ruling out a Republican win in the Governor's race though.  The number of people who have not heard of Baker and his strength among those that have should give pause before thinking Patrick is in good shape.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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Patrick IS in good shape, specifically because the internals of all polling say so......
I posted a comment about the last couple MA-Gov polls, this one and Rasmussen, in an open thread earlier today.

Patrick is at 44-46 job approval and a positive 48-43 favorability in Suffolk.  He's at 49-50 job approval and 52-46 favorability in Rasmussen.  Those are not fantastic numbers, but all but a very few incumbent Democratic Governors in the country would kill for those numbers right now.  In a 3-way, Patrick is set for reelection.  This is one race where having the election be a referendum on him helps him, specifically because his numbers are plenty good enough to win a 3-way.

And on top of all else, what people are missing, including in the political media, is that Patrick's numbers actually are IMPROVED over most of last year and early this year, when he was really in Corzine territory.  So he's actually recovered a good deal of his public image, something perhaps no other Democratic officeholder has been able to do to this point.

The voting public's unfamiliarity with Baker is irrelevant if Baker and the GOP can't also tear down Patrick.  And they're actually running out of time to do that.  The Republican establishment campaigned all along as if Patrick's numbers remained in Corzine territory, and assumed tearing down Cahill would get Baker over the hump just as tearing down Daggett got Christie over the hump.  But they're very wrong, and what surprises me is that it was obvious by late spring how wrong they were, and they haven't adjusted at all.

I think Patrick is going to win this thing, and it's the biggest surprise development of the campaign no one is talking about.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Brown is spending his capital wisely
He is focused on winning re-election in 2012 and is trying not to alienate too many people. If Baker and Perry look like even-money bets to win come late October, you'll see him, but if they're going to lose, he'll keep away.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

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Suffolk did much better in NV in 2008 than most
They and Zogby were the only two pollsters that didn't have Obama up by just a few points, I would like to see them cover that state too.

Anybody think Coakley might have won in November?
As bad as Coakley's campaign was, I wonder if she would have won if it were a November midterm election. I think the weird dynamics of a special election played a big role here.  

Yes
Assuming Patrick could have helped bring the non-white turnout to at least normal midterm levels. The only way a Democratic candidate flat out loses in Lowell and only gets barely above 50% in Worcester and Holyoke is when the non-whites don't turn out. (Coakley, by contrast, did just fine in the usual liberal haunts in the blue Metrowest burbs and Berkshire/Pioneer Valley small towns.)

Plus it'd be at least a little easier to get Dem-leaning independents to listen to arguments that Brown would be helping the going-off-the-rails GOP Capitol Hill caucus in light of everything else that's been going on this year.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03


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Who is Cahill pulling more votes from?
Patrick or Baker?  

Probably Baker
He's running a really anti-establishment, center right campaign.



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The generic baseline in the state

is 44% Democratic, 35% Republican.  Patrick and Baker are running right at those numbers.

The other 21% usually vote Democratic for federal office (or perhaps more accurately, against national Republicans) but are all over the place on everything else.  


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