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KY-Sen: Mixed Bag o' Nuts

by: Crisitunity

Thu Sep 09, 2010 at 1:47 AM EDT


Opinion Research Corp. for CNN/Time (pdf) (9/2-7, registered voters, no trendlines):

Jack Conway (D): 46
Rand Paul (R): 46
Undecided: 4
(MoE: ±3.5%)

Hooray! The citizens of Kentucky have finally seen through Rand Paul's attempts to put a conventional Republican gloss on his oddball libertarianism! All the momentum is with Jack Conway! Oh, wait... what's that? It's a poll of registered voters at this late date? Taking into mind how much PPP's numbers have fallen off since the switch from a more-or-less RV model to a pure likely voter model, that should mean... aw, crap.

SurveyUSA for WHAS-TV and Louisville Courier-Journal (8/30-9/1, likely voters, 7/27-29 in parentheses):

Jack Conway (D): 40 (43)
Rand Paul (R): 55 (51)
Undecided: 5 (5)
(MoE: ±4.2%)

Oh, no! The bottom's fallen out for Jack Conway in the last month! Wait... what's that? The self-identified 47% Dem, 42% GOP, 10% Other breakdown of this poll is totally out of whack with Kentucky's historic voting patterns? (Dems have always had at least a 25% registration advantage over GOPers, and recalculation to reflect that traditional breakdown points to a 51-44 margin, according to analysis by Pete Brodnitz, of Conway pollster the Benenson Group.) Hmmm, guess we'd better get down from that ledge.

Well, how about a tie-breaker, then? On behalf of somebody called the Kentucky Leadership Council, Democratic pollster John Anzalone (I'm not sure if this is just imprecision on The Fix's part, or if he's operating truly outside of Anzalone-Liszt) is out with a poll that gives Rand Paul a 48-45 lead over Jack Conway. However... one other thing missing from the writeup of this poll is whether or not it's freakin' registered voters or likely voters! Aaaghghgh! [begins pounding head on desk] (Update: The polling memo gives us answers to two questions - it was by ALR, and its sample was of likely voters.)

Oh, by the way, at least we can be certain about one thing: how much money Jack Conway raised with his one-day moneybomb event yesterday. He set a $260K goal and went well past it, raising "more than" $300K (although it sounds like at least $45K of that was lined up ahead of schedule). As for Paul, he's up with his first TV ad of the general, highlighting his time as a physician, rather messianically titled "Gift of Sight." (No mention of his breaking with Big Ophthalmology to start his own renegade certification scheme, though.) No offical WOTSOTB, but estimates are of $250K.

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You forgot Rasmussen's poll...
Which echoed SurveyUSA.

PPP comes out with Kentucky tomorrow... considering their likely voter screen is even TIGHTER than Rasmussen's and is automated polling, I'm not feeling so good about that one...


What I really get from this
is no-one knows who will win this election, and that getting out the vote or not getting it out will determine the outcome.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


Paul's Lead
It is such a shame for Conway that he is running in this type of environment. In any of the last 2 cycles he likely would be a very narrow favorite. Given the demographics of KY along with the wind in his face I have a really hard time seeing any path to victory for Conway. To me this is about a 5-8 point Paul lead. Paul has made lots of people nervous with his comments but I think that Conway's party affiliation makes people more nervous than whatever Paul says.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

Sadly
right not this race is not about Paul's nutty views, its a referendum on Obama. Conway needs to change that dynamic quick.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Two cycles ago though Trey Grayson would have been the nominee
Two cycles ago Conway would have been favored over Paul, but two cycles ago I think SOS Trey Grayson would have beat Paul in the primary by a hefty margin and been favored for the seat.

Democrat: TN-8

[ Parent ]
Good Point
That is a really good point about Grayson. Even in 2008 Grayson would have been favored against Conway. Conway seems like a pretty good candidate overall in that he has been elected to a statewide office but he is only competitive because Rand Paul has some very interesting views to say the least.  

28, Male, Democrat VA-08  

[ Parent ]
Would he, remember Kentucky Republicans had already nominated Jim Bunning
And Rand Paul didn't squeak by Trey Grayson this year either, he walloped him. I can't imagine that Kentucky Republicans have changed that much in a decade.

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[ Parent ]
I wonder how Conway would have down against McConnell in '08
My guess is he would have won if he had kept away from Obama, since Bruce Lunsford came within 6 and Conway was much better known than him. A visit from Hillary Clinton probably would have helped him a lot.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

Argh, done
Not down. Good God.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
I don't think Hillary would have helped.
I truly don't get this attitude that Hillary was someone some great asset to Democrats in states like Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia.  Remember that Hillary was the boogeywoman for Republicans well before Obama was.

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[ Parent ]
Sorry, I was basing that off her primary peformance
Kentucky has a lot of conservative Democrats--I believe Democrats outnumber Republicans there--and I thought that she could have mobilized some of the 65% of Kentucky Dems who had voted for her in April. But you know the region better than I, so maybe she wouldn't have helped at all.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
Didn't mean to sound snippy.
But my feeling is that these candidates would have ran from Hillary just as they run from Obama.  Even if it would have helped with some Democrats, it would have fired up Republicans.

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[ Parent ]
Oh, no, you weren't snippy at all!
You absolutely know more about Southern Democrats and their habits than I do! I wasn't offended at all, one of things I like most about this place is that we have people on the ground in almost every state (or at least region) where there's a competitive race. And now that I've looked at it your way, I absolutely agree that Hillary would not have helped much.

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
You apologized. That made me think I might have come off harshly.


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[ Parent ]
Crit Luallen or Ben Chandler
would have won by 5-6 points. Fischer would have been close, maybe not win, but possibly.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
High single digit lead looks about right
Conway picks another terrible cycle to run after losing to Northup in 2002.


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