Google Ads


Site Stats

WA-02: Larsen Trails Koster

by: James L.

Sat Sep 04, 2010 at 10:13 AM EDT


SurveyUSA (8/31-9/2, likely voters, no trend lines):

Rick Larsen (D-inc): 46
John Koster (R): 50
Undecided: 4
(MoE: ±4%)

This poll comes in the wake of the final top-two primary results giving Koster a 298 vote lead over Larsen. Digging deeper, though, two Democratic candidates took a full 10% of the primary vote, resulting in a final score of 52-48 for Team Blue. This is the second time that Koster has won the top-two primary vote against Larsen, the first time coming in 2000, where Larsen ultimately won the general election by 50-46.

Comparing these results to previous SUSA polls of this district in 2008 and 2006, the partisan composition of the sample isn't what's hurting Larsen; the damage is coming from Larsen's struggles among independent voters. He loses those voters by 12 points, compared to monster-sized wins among indies in the past two cycles. The 18-34 year-old vote has shrunk substantially, too, down to 13% of the sample -- leaving behind a demographic that flocks to Koster by 22 points.

You may take issue with the poll, but this one is shaping up to be a very close race.

James L. :: WA-02: Larsen Trails Koster
Tags: , , , , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email

Larsen also only won 51-46 in 2002
despite outspending his opponent 3.5 to 1. People seem to forget that WA-02 is a competitive district, it's just that Republicans haven't had many good cycles in the state lately, so Larsen hasn't had a tough fight since 2002.

That's true
Larsen hasn't been in a tough fight for a while.

But this district has also moved heavily towards the Democrats since 2000.

I hate to sound like a broken record (if it counts for anything, I lived in this district for a few years), but I think Koster reached his ceiling here with 48%.


21,Democrat, NY-02, male


[ Parent ]
Assuming the Democrats hold all those voters
You are basing your analysis off the assumption the Democrats hold all those voters.  There is no indication these voters are going to stay put.  They could easily return to their previous voting habits.

If the Democrats lose around 50 seats, this will be in the high 40s in that number.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


[ Parent ]
I think in the case of Washington
and Oregon, the shift left is consistent and will continue. Angry independents may throw a cycle to Republicans, but really these are center left independents and they won't stay Republican for too long.  

[ Parent ]
If Rs take the house
this is the kind of seat that will flip.

[ Parent ]
Based on SUSA results from other districts
where there is a repub internal to compare to, internal repub polls should show Larsen winning by 6-13 points.

Cook still rates it lean D.


Do you have
a specific poll?

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
Heinrich
Down 6 according to SurveyUSA but up 7 according to Ayres (R).

[ Parent ]
Robocall pollsters vs. live callers......
All the campaign pollsters, D and R alike, use live callers.

SUSA, PPP, and Rasmussen are robocallers.

It's a consistent trend that ALL the robocallers, PPP included although much less so than the other two, are skewing more strongly Republican than live call polling.

I increasingly buy into what Chuck Todd opined some months ago, that robopolls pick up the more intensely interested voters in their samples, and that's their skew.  This cycle, that skews Republican.  Democratic voters are less interested in the election and more likely to hang up on survey calls, but social norms cause some of them to stay on the phone with live callers when they would hang up on robocalls.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
I take seriously what Todd said as well
If the campaigns exclusively use live-callers, then there is a good reason for that.

Bleh, I doubt Id even listen to a robocaller for a poll.  Id probably hang up before knowing what they were calling for.


[ Parent ]
Ahhhh, where methodolgy meets humanity
personally, I prefer robopolls, but I hate telephones to begin with.

[ Parent ]
Dino Rossi
will probably win here, which may carry Koster over the line. Murray won this district in 2004 with 53%, and Rossi won it in the governor's race in 2004 with 50%. Rossi's win in WA-03 is probably putting another minus to Heck's campaign, as well.

I think the election will look a lot like Washington 2004, with Murray winning by a small margin.  

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26


what did rossi do
to get rid of his two time loser stink?  or is it just him saying "it's good republican year and I'm all you've got washington republicans, I'm all you've got!"

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

i think that sounds about right
And when he loses, on to 2012 because the GOP still wont have anybody.

[ Parent ]
Heh
I think I'm going to start making Dino for Senate '12 signs to get a head start on the market.

He already lost twice for governor, I think two senate losses will balance it all out...or something.

21,Democrat, NY-02, male


[ Parent ]
Well with McKenna
running for Governor, I don't see what the GOP has to lose by throwing Rossi at Cantwell. Surprisingly she's become more popular than Murray in the last few polls I saw, something I never would have thought four years ago. And Cantwell is a real leader of the progressives in the Senate. She's future Majority leader material.

[ Parent ]
I like
Cantwell better (way more progressive) and PPP polled that race a couple weeks ago and found her winning. Of course, things can change, but if she's winning in a 2010 electorate, that bodes well for 2012.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

[ Parent ]
If it's SUSA
it SUKSA.

i dont like their House polls
but statewide I think they're pretty on point.

[ Parent ]
Their statewide poll on the primary was off by more than Rasmussen
I have always believed the SUSA was a reliable pollster but they were way off on their predictions for primaries in WA and OR predicting a much more Republican vote than materialized.

Internal polls by both candidates show Larsen ahead by 5-9 points as recently as midweek.


[ Parent ]
Internal Polls?
I would like to know where you get your info on internal polls. After scanning the internet, I can find no recent internal polls released by either campaign.  How can you be so sure that both campaigns show Larsen ahead?

[ Parent ]
Agree for the most part but
Paul-55
Conway-40
??????????????????????

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
California and Washington too.


[ Parent ]
Western Washington University
Rick Larsen has a strong GOTV program at Western Washington University, and can pull a solid 6k votes from those precincts along, counting students and professors. They don't hang around for the primary or are out of town. In a similar vein, lots of people who voted for Larry Kalb and Diana McGinness (his Dem challengers) will come around and vote for Larsen in the end. A good chunk will anyway. Larsen is safe, he'll have to work his butt off for it, but he will cruise with a 4% margin.

that
is certainly not safe

18, Dem, CA-14 (home) CA-09 (college, next year). social libertarian, economic liberal, fiscal conservative.   Everybody should put age and CD here. :)

[ Parent ]

Copyright 2003-2010 Swing State Project LLC

Primary Sponsor

You're not running for second place. Is your website? See why Campaign Engine is ranked #1 in software and support among Progressive-only Internet firms. http://www.mediamezcla.com/

Menu

Make a New Account

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?


About the Site

SSP Resources

Blogroll

Powered by: SoapBlox