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Louisiana and West Virginia Primary Preview

by: James L.

Sat Aug 28, 2010 at 3:57 PM EDT


Saturday night is alright for hot congressional primary action. Polls close in West Virginia at 7:30pm Eastern, and Louisiana at 9pm.

  • LA-Sen (R): The race that never was. After being teased with the tantalizing prospect of cat fud for, well, years, David Vitter just never drew a Republican challenger of any substance despite his "serious sins". The best he got was ex-state supreme court justice Chet Traylor, who has yet to break 5% in the polls. I believe that Crisitunity summed this race up pretty well earlier in the week:

    Former state supreme court justice Chet Traylor's late-breaking bid against Vitter was very interesting for the first few days, but at this point we might as well just close the book on it: his fundraising never materialized, his "family values" turned out to be as suspect as Vitter's, and somehow he manages to be upside-down on favorables among GOP voters.

    It'd probably be something of a minor accomplishment if Traylor could crack double digits tonight.

  • LA-02 (D): This Democratic primary -- originally thought to be essentially to be the offer of a free House seat, although accidental GOP incumbent Joe Cao released an internal that suggests otherwise -- was supposed to attract every ambitious New Orleans politician around. In the end, though, it really only attracted two of note: state Reps. Cedric Richmond and Juan LaFonta. The establishment, both local and in DC, also quickly got behind Richmond (who finished third in the 2008 primary that Bill Jefferson eventually won). The DCCC added him but not LaFonta to Red to Blue, and both Mitch and Mary Landrieu recently endorsed him. The lone internal poll of the primary made public gave Richmond a 53-13 edge over LaFonta, outside the runoff zone. (There are some minor candidates present, so a runoff is possible.) (C)

  • LA-03 (R): Three GOPers are in the race for this Cajun Country seat left behind by Dem Charlie Melancon: former Houma State Rep. (and Democrat until 2000) Hunt Downer, attorney Jeff Landry, and engineer Kristian Magar. Downer is the establishment pick, but we saw on Tuesday how far that may or may not get you in the GOP these days. The tea-stained Landry and Magar have both been hitting Downer, whose history as a Democrat might just come back to bite him. Landry's outspent Downer ($297k to $282k) and has the CoH advantage as well ($234k to $126k). This race will head to a runoff should no one clear 50%; a mano-a-mano matchup against either 'bagger may be more difficult for Downer to handle. (JMD)

  • WV-Sen (D/R): If Gov. Joe Manchin doesn't win the Democratic primary for the race to fill the late Sen. Robert Byrd's senate seat, we might have transitioned into an alternate universe. Manchin's "main" opponent is Ken Hechler, "a 95-year-old former congressmen who represented West Virginia between 1959 and 1976 and also served in the Truman administration." That means Hechler is actually older than Byrd was at the time of his death! Manchin's already raised $1.2 million. No one else is even remotely close.

    On the GOP side, richie rich John Raese is expected to win the nod against an even more uninspiring field. Raese has self-funded half a million bucks so far, and again, everyone else is scrounging for couch change. (Note that Raese spent more than $2 million of his own money running against Byrd in 2006, only to pull just 34% of the vote.) (D)

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    LA-03
    I've been thinking about the run-off. I wonder if Magar would endorse Downer. In the main debate of the race, Downer and Magar teamed up to attack Landry, and were very friendly to each other. Landry has also attacked Magar for being an independent for a few years, and Magar was not happy with those attacks. I wonder if that would push him to endorse Downer?  

    Could happen, but most of Magar's support would go to Laudry anyway
    I'm betting most of Magar's people like what he stands for (or against) much more than they like Magar himself.  


    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    LA-2 election day weather report
    The weather sucks.  


    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    For an already
    Extremely low turnout. I think turnout in LA-02 will be scary low. A combination of the mostly quiet race, the Saints game yesterday, the weather, and Katrina anniversary.  

    [ Parent ]
    And the weather just got even worse
    I remember turnout in the Mayor's race was relatively good (despite the Superbowl being the next day) because of early voting.  Not happening this time.  Turnout may not top 20%.  Not sure if it would benefit LaFonta or Green: no one seems very excited about this race at all unlike in LA-3.  If no one has very energized supporters Richmond should benefit since the hardcore voters may go with the establishment.  

    Wonder how things look in LA-3.  Low turnout should help Magar and Laudry assuming their voters aren't glued to their TVs watching Beck's rally.

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    I think
    LaFonta and Johnson. The gay community is nuts about him. They are usually pretty enthusiastic too. Johnson has been focusing very hard on younger African Americans. Young people in New Orleans have tons of friends. He gets his friends, they love him, they get their friends, and so on. Today, as far as online presence of voters, Johnson voters appear unfazed by the rain. IDK about the motivation of message of Green. I know if he hurts anyone, its Cedric Richmond because they are both from New Orleans East.  

    [ Parent ]
    Upsets?
    Maybe the low turnout will lead to some upsets.  I'm not calling anything sure after AK-Sen.

    [ Parent ]
    It can produce some, but I doubt anything extremely shocking like Vitter losing
    My nomination for upset of the night: Jeff Laudry getting more votes than Hunt Downer and forcing a run-off.  

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    I agree
    That looks like the only surprise. But then again, do we ever see surprises coming? Landry beating Downer is not a surprise for me. I've been thinking it would happen since I saw the first Landry ad hammering Downer for his history as a Democrat.  

    [ Parent ]
    It's kind of weird how surprises turn into conventional wisdom
    On the eve of MA-Sen most (correctly) predicted a Brown win.  When he did win those same people said how big of a shock it was.  Yet, if Coakley had won, would that have been the surprise?

    Basically, sometimes it's a lot more fun to be surprised.  It's even more fun to be surprised and right.

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    It pisses you off though
    When the results are counted everywhere and about to come in in the state with the biggest surprise of the cycle and you go to bed thinking it will be boring and you wake up and think your still asleep once you see the results.  

    [ Parent ]
    That hasn't happened to me actully
    Maybe it's because I'm on the West Coast usually and can stay up later.  I've gone to bed seeing an upset in progress (Alaska) but never woken up completely surprised.

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    Can't wait to be in Japan
    for the general election. First polls close at 7 AM, last (Hawaii) closes at 1 PM. :D too bad I'll be in class for a good chunk of the time though.

    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
    please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


    [ Parent ]
    Richmond
    The preview seems to suggest that LA-02 (D) is heavily tilted in favor of Richmond.  However, I remember seeing comments on here that discussed corruption issues surfacing that relate to Richmond.  What are they and how much impact do you think they will have on the vote today?

    Info on allegations against Richmond
    http://www.politico.com/news/s...

    The group (Louisiana Truth PAC) has also launched a website titled, "The Real Cedric Richmond for Congress," which features comic book-like imagery that portrays Richmond as a "villain." It also highlights news reports on Richmond's misdemeanor charge arising from a 2007 Baton Rouge bar fight - it was later dismissed - and on the brief 2008 suspension of his law license for listing a false address when he ran for city council in 2005.  

    Richmond has insisted that he was merely trying to defend himself against another man whom he said had used racial epithets and instigated the 2007 bar fight, telling reporters earlier this month that he "tried to remove himself" from the situation. Richmond has previously acknowledged responsibility for listing the incorrect address on his city council candidacy forms.

    Not sure what effect they'll have on voters.

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    Here's the website
    That contains all the allegations: http://therealcedricrichmond.com/
    Most seem way out there. The two vids on their are their  TV ads, which have been playing on TV a bit in the last few days, since it was a 30k buy for only 5 days. I saw them a few times last night. The group is funded by Juan Lafonta's biggest donor, and the same person that wrote a letter to the DCCC blasting them for endorsing Richmond. They are also behind this mailer: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2VBe...
    IDK how many people received it. How many mailers does 18k buy?  

    [ Parent ]
    Thanks guys for the info
    That poll in the preview should be put in context.  It was conducted two months before the primary and I think a long time before Richmond's baggage was advertised much in the media.  It is like the poll of the Alaska Senate Republican primary and that turned out to be completely wrong.  Cao's chances of winning seem largely related to a divisive Democratic primary occurring and it going to a runoff would be like the situation in '08 when Cao won after Jefferson was bloodied in a runoff.  Of course, this race most likely won't be decided after November like the '08 one was and Richmond isn't as damaged as Jefferson was last cycle.  

    [ Parent ]
    That was also
    With only 2 people, and before LaFonta and Green started advertising. However, when people are polling just out or in run-off territory, they tend to over perform in LA. See Jindal 2007, when he was polling in mid-upper 40's the week before the election and won with 54% and Landrieu this year. He polled in the mid-40's the week of the election and won with over 60%.  

    [ Parent ]
    Is this
    The predictions thread? I'm gonna go ahead and do mine here.
    WV-Sen
    Manchin: 70
    Hechler: 20
    Fletcher: 10
    Go Ken!

    Raese: 70
    Warner: 15
    Rest: 15

    LA-Sen
    Vitter: 86
    Traylor: 8
    Accardo: 6
    Interesting to see if Accardo passes up Traylor. Seprated by 1 in most polls. I voted for Accardo.

    Melancon: 78
    Deaton: 12
    Chauvin: 10

    LA-02
    Richmond: 47
    LaFonta: 30
    Green: 15
    Johnson: 8
    Richmond close to avoiding run-off, may get there. I think the low turnout will keep him from getting there though.

    LA-03
    Landry: 45
    Downer: 42
    Magar: 13

    LA-05
    Alexander: 78
    Slavant: 22
    Alexander would have been vulnerable had he gotten a credible opponent in the Republican Primary because of his soft support for Landrieu in 2008, but anyone who may have run just decided to wait until he retires I guess. Maybe some legislators that would have run will try getting him in redistricting.  


    I'd be surprised if either Manchin or Raese get below 80%
    I just don't see anyone persuaded by Hechler or Warner.

    [ Parent ]
    But their name rec
    Will get them farther. Your right, they could well get up to 80, but in Raese's case, there are SO many people on the ballot, and his name will be burried way down with the R.  

    [ Parent ]
    Making my predictions here too
    WV-Sen (D)

    Manchin-80%
    Hechler-12%
    Other- 8%

    WV-Sen (R)
    Raese- 77%
    Warner-16%
    Other- 7%

    LA-Sen (R)
    Vitter- 85%
    Accardo- 8%
    Trayor- 7%

    LA-Sen (D)
    Melancon- 81%
    Other- 19%

    LA-2
    Richmond- 51%
    LaFonta- 30%
    Green- 12%
    Johnson- 7%

    LA-3
    Laudry- 44%
    Downer- 41%
    Magar- 15%

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    Any reason
    why you keep referring to Jeff Landry as "Laudry"?

    [ Parent ]
    Yes: He'll change his name once he gets the nomination to make it more vowelly


    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    Also it sounds less like Laundry


    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    I missed the Cao internal
    What were the numbers on that?

    20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

    51% Cao, 26% Richmond
    The poll was conducted late May- early June and released July.  http://hotlineoncall.nationalj...


    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    Thanks!
    Not sure I buy Cao leading among black voters, but it shows he's certainly not DOA.

    20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

    [ Parent ]
    Where"s the coverage on LA-4?
    Are ya'll planning on covering LA-4?  David Melville is the candidate to watch there

    I can't resist asking....
    ...any polling on how Hechler matches up against Raese?

    Course before I laugh that off there has been more than one case of some old guy upsetting the better known opponent with zillions of dollars while spending next to nothing.  Most notably Fred Tuttle.  Of course Ken Hechler makes the 79 year old Tuttle look like a youngster.  And for some odd reason I think Gov. Manchin is going to do just fine. ;)

    NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


    Don't think so
    All I could find on Pollster.com was these two polls, both which only polled Manchin as the Democrat.

    http://www.pollster.com/cgi-bi...

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    100% perfect, flawless predix. Cuz, I mean, I did predict Rick Scott...
    LA-Sen (D):
    Charlie Melancon - 89%
    Some dudes - 11%

    LA-Sen (R):
    David Vitter - 87%
    Chet Traylor - 9%
    Nick Accardo - 4%

    LA-02 (D):
    Cedric Richmond - 46%
    Juan LaFonta - 31%
    Eugene Green - 14%
    Gary Johnson - 9%

    WV-Sen (D):
    Joe Manchin - 60%
    Ken Hechler - 26%
    Sheirl Fletcher - 14%

    WV-Sen (R):
    John Raese - 64%
    Mac Warner - 13%
    8 some dudes - 23%

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    By that measure
    Mine are right too, because I also predicted Scott! But, did we predict Miller? I didn't.  

    [ Parent ]
    Nah, I had Murkowski up 54-46


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    [ Parent ]
    Any chance the dems hold LA-3
    Who've they got there?

    Anyhoo:

    Vitter 88
    Traylor 8
    Mr. S. Dude 4

    Richmond 42
    La Fonta 39

    Downer 45
    Landry 31
    Mr. Rando T. Bagger 14  


    We do have a credible fairly well funded candidate in LA-3
    Lawyer Ravi Sangisetty is unopposed for the Dem nomination.  He's raised $609,953 and has $248K on hand.  If there's a run-off in LA-3 he'll have the advantage of watching his foes drain their money in a nasty primary with only a month left.

    Of course this district went 61% for McCain, so even in the best circumstances this is lean Republican.  But Sangisetty does have the means to put up a fight here and this district is not a lost cause for us.

    21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



    [ Parent ]
    CQ
    Just changed it to Safe. I think its very likely Republican. Sangisetty is a good candidate, but the wrong year. Even if there is a primary, I think he still loses bad.  

    [ Parent ]
    This Congressional primary action, BTW
    is hot

    Downer's getting his ass whooped!
    only 11% in but unless these are only Landry strongholds so far, it looks like the best Downer can hope for is a runoff.

    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
    please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


    blah, meant to post this in the liveblog


    21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
    please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


    [ Parent ]

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