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SSP Daily Digest: 8/19 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Thu Aug 19, 2010 at 4:03 PM EDT


LA-Sen: That ginned-up internal poll that Chet Traylor released a few days ago (showing him within 12 of David Vitter) seems to have served its intended purpose, for what its worth: the contributions have started coming in at a much greater pace over the last few days. He pulled in $30K in three days, almost doubling up on the $42K he raised over the previous duration of his campaign (and most of which he blew on his new anti-Vitter radio ad). And this can't please Vitter, either: a local paper is reporting to Vitter's troublesome ex-aide, Brent Furer, traveled back from DC to Louisiana several times on the public's dime, at points that just happened to coincide with his various trials on charges of drunk driving.

NV-Sen: Sharron Angle seems to be wandering all over the map in search of a position on Social Security privatization, one that's extreme enough to satisfy her teabagging core supporters but not so extreme that it scares off, y'know, old people. She's removed the words "transitioned out" from her website (regarding Social Security) but, when pushed yesterday, said that she hasn't changed her view that that's how she feels about it (despite running ads claiming that she wants to "save" Social Security).

PA-Sen: Joe Sestak, meet Raul Labrador? As you probably know, there's a common-sense rule of thumb that you don't release your internal polls unless they show you, y'know, ahead of your opponent. Nevertheless, somebody (unclear whether it was the DSCC or the Sestak camp) leaked NBC a Peter Yang internal of the race giving Pat Toomey a 2-point lead over Sestak, 46-44. Obviously, that's not designed to create a sense of Sestak's inevitable victory as most internals are designed to do, but it's pushback against this week's PPP poll, where the switch to LVs hurt Sestak's numbers, probably oriented toward letting contributors know that this race is still in play. The DSCC has also been nailing Toomey on the rather arcane issue of derivatives, which had a key role in inflating the asset bubble that popped and left all our faces covered in pink sticky goo in 2008. Somehow I doubt more than 1% of the nation can offer a cogent explanation of what derivatives (especially credit default swaps) do, but at any rate, they've tracked down three separate times when Toomey as Congressman, on the House floor, praised the use of derivatives, something he's lately tried to distance himself from.

WA-Sen: We're up to 67% reporting in Washington, with the numbers not really having budged from Tuesday night (still 46 Patty Murray, 34 Dino Rossi, 12 Clint Didier), but more than three-quarters of the remaining precincts are in the Dem-friendly King, Pierce, and Snohomish Counties, so look for some future budging. Meanwhile, here's a comparison that only true politics junkies will get... remember Fred Heineman? (The one-term Republican House member from NC-04 swept in in 1994, who then said that his $183,000 salary made him "lower-middle-class" and that the middle class extended up to $750K, and promptly got swept out in 1996.) Dino Rossi has apparently decided that he should be Washington's answer to Heineman, as he essentially said that one-third of Washingtonians make over $200K per year. More specifically, he said 2.5 million Washingtonians would benefit from keeping the Bush-era tax cuts for those making more than $200K/yr. (In reality, 105K households, or 1.6% of the state's population, fit that profile.)

CA-Gov: Here's an iceberg in the way for the serene cruise of the Queen Meg: activists at a convention of state conservatives this weekend plan a rude welcome for her. They plan to lambaste her on her non-extreme positions on an Arizona-style immigration law in California, and her support for greenhouse gas-limiting Proposition 19 23. Also, here's some quantitative evidence for something that I've long suspected: Whitman has so oversaturated the airwaves with advertising that it went well past the point of having its desired effect and is now just getting people pissed off at her. A Jerry Brown staffer leaked that nugget from internal polling, finding that her own advertising has helped Whitman with 8% of voters and hurt her with 27% of voters.

IA-03: Hot on the heels of the David Rivera story in FL-25, here's another uncomfortable blast from the past for another Republican House candidate: records reveal that Brad Zaun, the GOP's nominee against Leonard Boswell, had to be told by West Des Moines police to stay away from his ex-girlfriend after a late night visit to her house to pound on her windows and call her names.

MO-03, MO-04: Odd little pollster We Ask America seems to be entering another period of being prolific, as now they're out with a couple House polls from the underserved state of Missouri. They find Russ Carnahan fairly comfortable against Republican challenger Ed Martin in the 3rd, leading 48-39, but find veteran Dem Ike Skelton in a tighter race in the 4th, leading Vicky Hartzler 45-42. Skelton still draws the support of 27% of Republicans and 37% of indies, crucial to surviving this dark-red district.

CfG: The Club for Growth is starting to switch gears from primaries (where they seem to have had a more productive run this year than in previous cyles) to the general. They've endorsed four Republican challengers who all cleared the primary bar: Stephen Fincher in TN-08, Todd Young in IN-09, Mick Mulvaney in SC-05, and Tim Griffin in AR-02.

Ads: The most attention-grabbing ad today seems to be from Indiana Dem Joe Donnelly, who already tried to distanced himself from "the Washington crowd" in his previous ad. Now he's basically thrown in the towel on trying to fight the messaging war and just start running with Republican memes, touting his opposition in his newest ad to "Nancy Pelosi's energy tax." Other ads worth checking out today include an RGA ad for Duke Aiona in HI-Gov, a Joyce Elliott ad in AR-02, a Michelle Rollins spot in DE-AL, and a Mike McIntyre ad in NC-07.

Rasmussen:
MD-Gov: Martin O'Malley (D) 45%, Bob Ehrlich (R) 44%
NV-Gov: Rory Reid (D) 36%, Brian Sandoval (R) 52%
WA-Sen: Patty Murray (D) 48%, Dino Rossi (R) 44%

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PA-Sen
I believe the Sestak internal poll like I believed the Santorum internal polls around August 2006 saying he was only down 2.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

Oh come now
Santorum wasn't within 7-9 points in most public polling in 2006.  And equating Sestak to Santorum in terms of unpopularity is just dumb, Santorum was a largely unpopular 2-term senator that was far too conservative for a democratic-leaning state.  Sestak lines up politically much better for Pennsylvania, and he's a fresh face relatively speaking, having spent 2 terms in the House.  

I haven't seen Sestak's favorables being anywhere near as low as Santorum's in any public polling yet this cycle, either.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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Extremely skeptical
I am always skeptical of campaigns leaking polling.  That skepticism goes off the charts when you release a poll saying you are down.  

The only benefit of releasing the polls is if the campaign is in fear of losing fundraising.  Considering they are already behind Toomey in cash, this is plausible.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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Leaking
Who says the Sestak camp leaked it?  The DSCC could have leaked it, and for all we know someone there might be trying to sabotage Sestak because he took out Specter.

Your comparison with the '06 race, where Santorum lost by 18, is I'm sorry to say idiotic.


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What does
NWOTSOTB stand for?

No Way Our Team Sucks That Bad
(Or No word on the size of the buy. Your choice.)

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IA-03 Not good news for Zaun
I'm breathing a little easier about Boswell's chances right now.  

I'd feel better
if he wasn't down 10% or thereabout in the polls.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13

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Zaun
The incident was just 9 years ago, when he was 39. Boswell should be able to beat that story like a rented mule.

41, Ind, CA-05

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Yeah, and this is the kind of thing that's hard to explain
And also probably won't play well in Iowa, particularly among women voters.  

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Dunno. He was elected mayor of Urbandale and to the State Senate . . .
even after the incident 9 years ago.

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Wait, I thought this hadn't been made public before now?


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You're right. My bad.


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2 Republican polls
both conducted by Victory Enterprises, a consultant to the Zaun campaign, found Zaun up by around 8 percent. I want to see an independent poll before we conclude Boswell is down "10 percent of thereabout" in the polls.

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it's a huge red flag for women
and it's not even the only bad news Zaun got this week.  

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You have an unintentionally amusing mistake on CA-Gov
   Prop 19 is less about greenhouse gases than green leaf gases; it is the one to legalize cannabis. Figure that the vote counters will have to take a ganja break or two while tallying that one this November.

  Prop 23 is the one that relates to greenhouse gases. It mostly repeals (puts off until an unreachable goal is met) AB 32 (tough on dyslexics!) which was the Assembly bill to regulate greenhouse gases. My understanding is that Queen Meg basically supports the idea but has just enough of a disagreement with the language of the initiative that she can say she doesn't endorse it. Prop 23 is likely to go down to defeat this fall, but teh global warming deniers in the Greedy Old Party love it.

  This is typical eMeg: it is like the question of immigrants rights where she wants to say one thing en espanol and another in English. She is a blatant enough opportunist that her efforts to buy the governorship are becoming less popular. The only good thing you could say about her is that all the money she is spending on the campaign is helping stimulate the CA economy (or at least the broadcasters...)

52, male, disgruntled Democrat, CA-28


Sesak internal pretty weak.
At least it shows him close. I think Sesak has to show that he is still in that race, even though the national climate is declining. If Toomey starts appearing to pull away then Dem resources are going to get redirected to saving Feingold, Murray, and Boxer.

Personally I find it difficult to imagine a Sesak win. Toomey has managed to appear relatively moderate. Of course all the rightwingers across the country know he isn't and that he will be a strong conservative. Thus lots of resources from across the country for Toomey.  


Murray, Feingold and Boxer are not going to be saved
Believe me, there fine on there own. As fo the internal, it was dumb to release it but Sestak can win this. All he has to do is get back on tv and flood the airwaves (like what Toomey is exactly doing)and point out Toomey's flaws, he's too conservative for PA, his tenure at the far right CfG etc. telling people he's not that nice moderate you think he is. Faixfax it's not over, far from it.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Pulling out
I doubt Sestak gets thrown under the bus.  The only way he gets thrown under the bus is if his fundraising is absolutely terrible this quarter and he remains 7+ points down in the polls.  Even then I doubt he gets thrown under the bus as the Democrats are not going to make the mistake of having the Republicans having a free reign over the House and legislative races.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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Wait a minute Ryan
Where did I say that Sestak would get thrown under bus? I never said that and I never will think that happen. Basically because of what you mentioned above.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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You didn't
The guy before you said they would pull out.  Nobody is pulling out of this race unless things are really bad elsewhere.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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That's what I thought
I thought you were directing the comment towards me because you replied to my comment.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Sestak has an easy path to victory
Toomey's reinvention as a moderate is the exact same thing as Specter's reinvention as a Democrat.

A few commercials three weeks before the election of Toomey embracing Bush or Republican positions can easily push Sestak over the top.

(Besides that Toomey is wasting money in August while Sestak is running a more tactically sensible campaign.  It's no surprise there is a movement toward Toomey now, when it doesn't matter, when Toomey is on the air.  And it should be no surprise when Sestak counters that next month.)


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Exactly


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Social security ads
Night and day.

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Toomey
Can then show some pictures of Sestak embracing Obama and Rendell. Bush is not radioactive anymore. Also, Toomey embracing Bush is not the same as Specter. Specter lost because of that ad in a Dem primary, not a general election.  

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"Bush is not radioactive anymore"
Yeah, right.  And I'm sure he'll be a big plus in a state he lost twice.

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Make that, "...in a state he barely lost twice"
I agree with GOPVoter on this one - Bush/Toomey ads won't work here, especially with disgruntled Independents. Sestak should've been hammering Toomey on policy positions right from the get-go, as Specter surely would've done had he won the primary. Instead, he's allowed Toomey to define himself as a mainstream, center-right Republican, and that can win by 10 points in Pennsylvania w/ a bad year for Dems.

It surely doesn't help matters that Tom Corbett could win by upwards of 15% in the gubernatorial race. Even if Sestak floods the airwaves in October, Corbett can probably drag a bloodied Toomey across the finish line.

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I wouldn't do Bush ads either
Since he's no in office anymore. If I were Sestak I hammer Toomey on his policy positions and let the voters know he's not the moderate you think he is. And regardless if Toomey wins if won't beby no 10 points. And even with Tom Corbett they not a sure bet that he will drag Toomey across the finidh line. I sorry but I  definetly can't agree with you on this.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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I doubt you'll find picrures of him and Rendell
Since Rendell actively campaigned againist him and Sestak knows better than to be photographed with probally one of the worst Governors in the Contry. And him and the President won't work either.

As for Bush, him embracing Bush is bad because he's still toxic even after two years. The fact that you think he's not radioactive in this state is fucking laughable. It really is.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


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YEah, Obama won't hurt him
In a state where he has an approval rating of 40, with 55% dissapproving, and  49% saying an Obama endorsement would make them less likely to vote for a candidate (OK, I don't find this number important, as I think its greatly exaggerated, but some people might so just throwing it out there)
And what do you say to that Dem internal saying tying Republicans to Bush does not help them?  

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I'm saying
Bush is toxic and your suggesting that he's not is fucking bogus. Him with Toomey could work in our favor but I wouldn't suggest it. and 2nd 40 percent in this environment is not bad for him, I'm sorry if you don't like it but the man is not toxic here like Bush. A fundraiser with him won't hurt but Obama dosen't need to be here necessarily for Sestak to win. I say bring in Bill Clinton to help out Sestak, that could work better.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Bush
No, he certainly won't help. I know that. Its been 2 yrs. Bush is not toxic anymore and I have evidence (from DEMOCRATS!) to back that up. Am I saying he won't hurt with some voters? No, but he certainly won't turn off much of the electorate.

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Bush is still toxic...
And always be toxic espically with his polcies and image. You have evidence from Democrats that Bush isn't toxic. I think that's a huge crock you know that? But I disagree with you. You bring Bush into the electorate he will turn off some voters.  

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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I
do not think it is a good idea for Sestak to do Toomey Bush ads. It will not work. But since we are doing this pissing match I will point out that voters still blame Bush not Obama for the mess we are in and prefer Obama to him. That is what polling says anyhow. Still I agree it is not wise for Sestak to do the Bush photo thing. If he resorts to that then he is done.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I agree with the post completely
Also I like to point out that I think Bush/Toomey ads won't work either. Sestak smart enough not to do that either. In fact only one person suggested that. That's what sparked this whole debste.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
I have a response
But Im not posting it s this pissing match as hoosierdem put it, can end.  

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This is really a pissing match?
I thought we were having a debate. Anyways maybe your right. If we go on we could get banned or something and I wouldn't want that to happen because even though I disagree with you, you do seem like a pretty smart guy. Thanks for the debate man. It was fun.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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I wasn't sure
I didn't see it as that, but if someone on the outside of the debate thinks it is, it probably is. Debates always seem less heated between the people in them.  

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Colorful language
Probably doesn't help in that regard.

[ Parent ]
Yeah the term "Pissing Contest" is certainly colorful that's for sure.


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
A true debate on this topic would have had
more substance backing up the notion that Presidents Obama or Bush would hurt the candidate of their respective parties.

But it was certainly a discussion of campaign strategy.


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I believe the survey
Referred to was of Democratic held House districts considered most vulnerable, many of which, if not most, were won by McCain in 2008. The doesn't sound like the State of Pennsylania to me.

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I'm sorry but
What surver are you refering to?

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Apparently
There is a Dem internal of the most vulnerable Dem held House seats which shows Bush more popular than Obama by 6 points. When you consider these are mostly districts McCain carried comfortably it means less that the face value suggests.

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What districts did the internal poll
I'm sorry but this internal sounds like a bit of a crock to me.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Link
http://hotlineoncall.nationalj...

No word on the seats but it doesn't take much guess work to know which are most vulnerable.


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Well the internal is probally a crock
But if it isn't the seats I canthink of where Bush would be more popular than Obama would be Dem wise would be PA-17, PA-12, PA-4 and PA-3 (slightly) and maybe PA-10.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Thats not the one
That one is from this week, the one I'm talking about is a few weeks old. It was an internal memo from a Dem strategist or the DNC Saying their polling showed attacking Bush to be ineffective on voters opinions. I'm pretty sure I read about it on the Fix, but their search engine is not working now.  

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Well regardless
Whatever it was a debate, a pissing match or a discussion of campaign strategy it was dertsinly something. It was two guys from different parties coming together to have a discussion about a certain political race. And in my opinion although abit heated it was cordial, somewhat respectful and neither of us engaged in foul language because that always brings down discussions. I guess well have to agree to disagree on this but I thank you for the discussion. Hey even though i'm a Dem I don't necessarily have to be a a-hole towards a Republican, espically on here.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Probably
not the best language on my part. I was slightly annoyed at some of the things I read but should have used better conduct. Sorry.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Just remember
PA-Sen will be won in Philadelphia and the burbs.  Obama is still popular in Philly and can drive turnout.  Obama is no where near 40-55 unfavorable in the totality of the Philly burbs.  

Obama being unpopular in PA won't hurt too much.  Localizing the issues won't be hard, and Bill CLinton is more popular than Bush or Obama in some of the rural Dem districts in PA and has proven so.  His willingness to get involved has already been shown.

To give Toomey a bye to the November win is a bit much, not that I think this was implied by anyone.  But its silly to even consider Bush to be non-toxic.


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Of course he is
There is no point in denying.  Bush is so radioactive he has been hiding for 18 months.

And there was that recent poll that said his favorable numbers were still miles worse than Obama's.

Just about the only way Sestak loses this race is if he runs a poor campaign.  Hang Bush and Toomey's own views around his neck, and game over.


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Agreed Completely Tommy, good post.


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Appear moderate?
The two words that will do Toomey in are social security.  When blue collar Pennsylvanians learn his club for growth views on this, he'll be in for rough sledding.

And I can't believe the pessimism on here regarding this race.  This is a very winnable race regardless of the political environment.  Maybe there are still some Specter supporters out there.


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^^^THIS


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Santorum got away with it
Remember Santorum won TWICE campaigning against Social Security and won.

The way to beat Toomey is not to get into an economic flame war.  On economics, Toomey is going to get a lot of support from Philly suburban voters.  When Santorum focused on economic issues, he did well in the four suburban counties and did pretty poorly out west.  Got him over the finish line though.  If Sestak wants to fight on economics, Toomey will win 3 of the 4 suburban counties along with the T.  Game over.

Beating Toomey really requires this to become a culture war.  Sestak has to try to paint Toomey as Santorum part II.  The problem is that Toomey has largely ignored social issues.  His moderate image is not a complete sham.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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Yeah and Santorum was properly disposed four years ago by close to 20 points
Because of those RW views plus Santorum won both his election because of a wave ('94) and faced a weak opponent ('00)

Ryan get real, Toomey's moderate image is a sham. From him wanting to priviateize Social Security to his views on Wall Street to his tenure as leader of the CfG. The man is too conservative for this seate. Sestak dosen't have to beat Toomey just for making it a culture war. He can win by that and chipping away at Toomey's faux moderate image.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


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No
Santorum emphasized his cultural conservatism, and downplayed social security.  Even so, he barely won in '94, and had Klink been better funded, he could have been taken out in '00 when Klink surprised everyone on election day by running a strong race.  Toomey's emphasis is on his economic conservatism.

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Santorum's campaigns were radically different
I actually did some research on this in undergrad as part of a project for a political science class dealing with modern elections. I basically went form 1976 to 2006 in Pennsylvania examining what issues were most prevalent and what counties they won to see if there was any patterns.  One of the ways I determined the issues was through good old Lexis searches.

To give a very brief summary, there was a shift in what issues Santorum focused on between 1994 / 2000 and 2006.  Most of the stories about him in 1994 / 2000 talked about welfare reform and economic issues in general.  A decent number of social security related articles.  In 2006, the proportion of social issues articles exploded compared relatively to 1994 and 2000.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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I will give you that they were different
Your post has merit from 1994-2000 (his 1st term) is was economics it was after he won his 2nd term is when you went bat shit crazy talking about privitizeing Social Security and becoming a cultural warrior, something that didn't play well in PA as you know the outcome. You you do have a good point on that.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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This could help Sestak
 In West PA where there should be turnout for Dan Ontarato. It is more econmically liberal and moderate over there. Sestak also did well in the primary over in West PA and although Specter was unpopular there in the first place, it shows that Sestak's populist message can resonate with voters.  

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17, CA-06,  


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I can agree with that assessment
That could work.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Patti Murray
 Has a 4 point lead with a Rasmussen poll out. I think we know what that means about that race.  

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17, CA-06,  


Actually, Rasmussen has been pretty in line with other pollsters as of late
So I'm going to say I think it at least means Murray has a narrow lead over Rossi, but is also 50 percent - both good signs.

Here's a sobering though for all you Rasmussen haters out there - the spread between Obama's approval and disapproval is now better on Rasmussen's daily tracking poll (-7) then it is on Gallup (-9)  


[ Parent ]
3 birthers in Republican primary for LA-03
http://www.wdsu.com/video/2465...
Look at around 0:45, maybe earlier. The question is about whether they believe birhters are right. Hunt Downer and Jeff Landry say yes, while Kristian Magar says he doesn't know.  

Seriously...
you need to go down there and knock some sense into these people.  They won't listen to a Democrat, maybe you'll have a better chance of breaking through to them.  This is just getting downright embarrassing.

[ Parent ]
K
So, I didn't simply misunderstand the question like I was thinking (hoping!) I did?  

[ Parent ]
Questions on campaign donations
For this cycle, the maximum donation to federal candidates is $2,400: $1,200 for the primary, and $1,200 for the general.  If someone did NOT give any money to a candidate in the primary, can that person still give the full $2,400?  Or is that $1,200 maximum allocated for the primary now invalid?

Also, if a candidate has some primary money left over, they can still use that money for the general election, right?


That's not quite right.
It's $2400 for the primary and $2400 for the general.  Officially, the law is $2400 per election.  This is why in IL, as the special to fill the Senate seat is the same day as the general, you can actually give $4800 to the candidates.

If the election is over, as in the primary has passed, then no, you cannot double up on the general.  And no, I don't believe primary money can be used in the general, but I could be wrong about that.


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Im confused on the last part too
The primary money left over is money in a federal campaign account. If you are running for office, you can transfer any money from a federal campaign account into another federal campaign account, so that would be transfering primary money to a general election. I think the law states that you have to be an official party nominee to spend general election money, nothing about primary money. I could be wrong too.  

[ Parent ]
Couldn't the protests, in theory, actually HELP Meg Whitman?
I could see moderate Independents, weary of both Brown and Whitman, seeing the protests as a sign that Whitman's no crazy conservative.  

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Close race for GA Gov
Deal-45
Barnes-41

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Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  


Cool Names Watch
Anyone know what ever became of Paul Partyka (FL-24)?

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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If only in Richard Neugent's name in FL
Was named Ted, he would hands down have the coolest name.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Nah, I think
Partyka might have the coolest name of any candidate this cycle. Although there are some other notables like Gobble (TN-03, R) and Idusogie (MN-Gov, D).

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
Nate
"Historically, Republican campaign polls have exaggerated their candidate's standing more than Democratic ones."

Something to remember when each internals is released.  


So...
Nate basically told us something we already knew? Ok good to know for reference purposes.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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He is working out a model
For projecting the House and part of that involves sifting through polls going back to 1998. I always felt this was the case but I didn't have hard data to back it up. This is it.

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Jesus Nate is brilliant He really is.
I would never try to project what the House would be by going through polls 10 years old. Glad he's on our sie that's all I got to say.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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There are some higher-level analyses on pollster.com
attempting to correlate generic House ballots and final results back to '46, I think. Eyeballing the results suggests some dependence on the party in the majority, i.e. it takes more than a couple of points from one party to overcome (flip) a majority from the opposite party.

The one uncertain datapoint is based on '94 -- I think there's some discussion about how D fortunes fell badly at the last moment -- which wouldn't be reflected in generics. However, I don't have a source for that.

From what I've seen on 538, I think Nate is going quite a bit further. .I'd hope to see some correlation on the effect of incumbency and perhaps even political position of the candidate relative to the district. I'm not sure he'll make it before 538 goes behind the NYT firewall, however....


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I'm not sure he'll make it before 538 goes behind the NYT firewall, however....
God I hate that's going to happen. When is the change supposed to happen. Because I have a feeling Nate won't be the trusting soul we have relied on for disecting polling if he has to answer to the NYT.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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I agree
I thought I was the only one who doesn't like him going to NYT.  

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Believe me your far from the only one
I'm sure if you asked people on here they be pissed as well because we all know and you know as well once Nate goes to the NYT his polling won't be as great, specific and objective because he'll have the NYT to censor him if they don't like what his numbers are churning out because you know he won't be fully independent in his work. I was sick to my stomach when I heard the news 538 was going to the times I said his work will go down the crapper like Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Vitter +12 in poll for NOLA news station
48-36 over Melancon, 74-5-3 over Traylor, Accardo. Melancon is BELOW the threshold for a run-off, at 43% in his primary. Ernest Wooten appears to be a non-factor at this point.  http://www.wwltv.com/news/WWLT...  


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