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Tennessee Primaries Preview

by: Crisitunity

Thu Aug 05, 2010 at 1:28 PM EDT


TN-Gov (R): Bill Haslam hopes to bulls-eye a Wamp rat tonight (and Ron Ramsey for good measure). The Knoxville mayor is generally regarded as the frontrunner in the Republican gubernatorial field, in both polling and fundraising (much of which came out of his own pocket). Rep. Zach Wamp and Ramsey (the Lt. Governor) are further back in the polls, and trying to out-conservative each other in their messaging. In fact, this is starting to look like a replay of the Michigan GOP primary earlier this week, with the self-funding 'moderate' (to the extent that Haslam apparently once signed off on a tax increase, and isn't as demagogic as the others) benefiting from a brawl between multiple conservatives.. and also in that while polling has shown Dem nominee Mike McWherter competitive against the conservative candidates, he matches up much less well against Haslam. There's also a wild card in the form of viral video star Basil Marceaux, whose late-surging candidacy may make some inroads among the anti-traffic-stop, pro-immuning crowd. (C)

TN-03 (R): Like Peter Hoekstra in MI-02, the joy of watching one of the House's most execrable members (Zach Wamp, in this case) give up his seat for a gubernatorial primary faceplant is tempered somewhat by the knowledge that he'll be replaced by someone just as nasty. There are 11 GOPers in this primary, but it's really only a two-person race, between Club for Growth-backed former GOP state party chair Robin Smith and attorney, radio talk show host, and Mike Huckabee ally Chuck Fleischmann. (Smith, you might recall, was the GOP chair during the 2008 campaign, who released the infamous "Anti-Semites for Obama" press release that had him in African tribal garb. (C)

TN-04 (R): We don't have much intel on the Republican primary here, where the main contestants are attorney Jack Bailey, and physician Scott DesJarlais, but it's worth keeping an eye on, as the victor will go on to face Rep. Lincoln Davis. Davis isn't high on anyone's target list, but in a big enough wave could get swept away just by virtue of his R+13 district. Bailey has a bit of a fundraising edge, probably thanks to connections from his former work as a Hill staffer. (C)

TN-06 (R): Let the fur fly in this Middle Tennessee district currently held by outgoing Democrat Bart Gordon. The field counts eight Republicans, with three serious contenders in former Rutherford County GOP chair Lou Ann Zelenik, state Senator Jim Tracy from the southern part of the district, and state Senator Diane Black, who represents two northern counties in the district. The mad dash, of course, is for the right, whether its immigration or misuse of government resources. Black released an internal that had her leading at 41% and Zelenik and Tracy mired in the twenties at 22 and 20, respectively. Look for sharp geographic distinctions here tonight, with each candidate having a different base in this rural-exurban district. (JMD)

TN-08 (R): For the open seat of outgoing Dem John Tanner, five Republicans have jumped into the fray. The three frontrunners -- agribusinessman Steve Fincher, Shelby County Commissioner George Flinn, and doctor Ron Kirkland -- have been busy bashing each other to bits. All sorts of accusations have been thrown around -- Flinn's been attacked for owning a hip-hop station in Memphis, while Fincher's caught flak for voting in the Democratic primary for local offices in May, and Kirkland's on the defensive for steering contributions to Democrats in the past. All three are have significant warchests to play with (Fincher $421k cash-on-hand, Flinn $275k with the ability to self-fund, Kirkland $223k). So who's going to emerge from this bare-knucle brawl? Fincher's the NRCC's preferred candidate, and a recent poll had him leading with 32 to Kirkland's 23 and Flinn's 21. This race is largely in the air (not that presumptive Dem. nominee Roy Herron's complaining), though unfortunately, we'll know the winner of this fight tonight, as Tennessee has no runoffs. (JMD)

TN-09 (D): Two years ago, Nikki Tinker's campaign against incumbent Dem. Steve Cohen was infuriating; this time, former Memphis Mayor Willie Herenton's campaign is just laughable. Whether it's claiming he'll beat Cohen 3:1, losing the CBC's endorsement to Cohen, or having less than 1/47th of Cohen's cash-on-hand, Herenton's campaign really makes you wonder. Let the mockery begin. (JMD)

UPDATE: Polls close at 8 pm ET/7 pm CT (the state is in both time zones, but apparently closing times are coordinated). As always, if you have predictions, let us know in the comments.

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Predix on the two races I've been following...
TN-Gov:
Bill Haslam - 40%
Zach Wamp - 26%
Rom Ramsey - 19%
Basil Marceaux - 15%

TN-09:
Steve Cohen - 76%
Willie Herenton - 24%

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Dear lord
Are you really giving Marceaux that much? It'd be really amusing if he could pull off a result like that, but I think I'll be a bit less generous.

TN-Gov:

Haslam- 35%
Wamp- 32%
Ramsey- 29%
Marceaux- 4%

TN-09:

Cohen- 81%
Herenton- 19%

19, male, Dem, CT-04 (home) PA-02 (college and registered)


[ Parent ]
Well
Outside of the 9th, there aren't really any competitive Democratic primaries, so Democrats could cross over and try to get Basil Marceaux.com nominated...

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent

[ Parent ]
Sucks that Cooper didn't get primaried.


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Why?
He is not from a safe seat and he is really not that bad. He is at least better than he was in the nineties any way.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
What if…
Ok I know this is crazy but Andyroo already predicted that Basil might break double digits. Personally I think he will get 5-6 percent of the vote. What if the turnout was REALLY low and some Dems crossed over to vote and Basil somehow won with say 17-18 percent of the vote? I do not expect him to get that much but it is not impossible, he has gotten a lot of attention. Tennessee does not have runoffs. It's not going to happen but it is interesting to consider. Safe Dem if it did happen.

In all seriousness who should we be rooting for tonight? I would think Wamp since he polls much worse than XXXX. Any local insights.

Also Cohen is going to CRUSH he who must not be named tonight.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  


Shoot
I suck with names. A lot of times I put XXXX when I can't think of the name when I am typing and then I look it up and fill in the x's. So XXXX should be Haslam.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
He did get Stephen Colbert's endorsement
That might count for something, even if it's only Tennessee

Some Dude, 19, Democrat, NH-02 (residence), MA-08 (college)

[ Parent ]
Don't forget
Basil Marceaux.com is on the ballot in the 3rd District House primary, as well.

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent

[ Parent ]
Ha Ha Ha....
I feel uber intelligent right now. Win some lose some.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
TN-Gov Prediction
I'm Basil Marceaux.com: 68%
People who don't want to fly the flag right: 32%  

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)

No runoffs?!
How disappointing....

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

TN- Predictions
Governor:

Haslam   47%
Wamp     29%
Ramsey   22%
Marceaux  2%

TN-6

Tracy    38%
Black    37%
Zelenik  25%

TN-8

Fincher  43%
Kirkland 41%
Flinn    16%

TN-9

Cohen    63%
Herenton 37%

Democrat: TN-8


Dream Ticket 2012
Palin/Marceaux.com

Why no love in the TN-03 Democratic primary?
You guys should pay attention to Brent Davis Staton in the Democratic primary! He's got a great profile for the district and can turn up the heat on whoever wins the Republican primary (Read: Robin Smith). People have written off this district as extremely conservative, but that's absolutely not the case. The congressperson holding the seat prior to Zach Wamp was Marilyn Lloyd, a Democrat. I encourage you all to take a look at giving Dr. Brent Staton your full support in the general election, and, while you're at it, please visit StatonforCongress.com.

TN-3
The race is fairly low-profile outside Chattanooga. I read the Chattanooga Times-Free Press some, but I don't real grasp non where the Republicans stand within the Republican electorate to have a bearing of were their primary stands. Robin Smith would appear to be the front-runner, but that is far from certain. As for the chances for a Democrat, if the seat had been open in 2006 with a top-tier candidate against a so-so Republican candidate we might have had an outside chance, but in 2010, the odds are daunting; thus why no top tier candidates got into the race, no offense to Mr. Stanton.

TN-3 was drawn specifically in 2002 to pack Republicans into it and make TN-4 more Democratic for then State Senator Lincoln Davis. thus it bears little resemblance to the district Congresswoman Lloyd represented.

Democrat: TN-8


[ Parent ]
TN-03
I would tend to agree with you concerning this race because I know the district is rather red. However, having seen all of the Republican candidates (including the glorious Basil Marceaux), I have concluded that Dr. Staton has a very strong chance if for no other reason than the Republicans have an atrociously weak field of candidates (read: Robin Smith once again). During this campaign, Robin Smith has rarely ventured out of the deep red area around Chattanooga. Furthermore, her dirty campaign tactics have alienated both Fleischmann and Gobble supporters. It is my belief that these supporters will never support Robin Smith this fall after the smear tactics she has used. They will either stay home or vote for someone like Dr. Staton.

Now, I'd like to address Dr. Staton's own strengths as a candidate. He is warm, confident, and genuinely connects with the people of the district. Having grown up in and around the district, he has a stronger appeal to the people within the district. Furthermore, as a family medicine doctor, he's an authority on issues like health care.

Finally, I would like to address Wamp's effect on the district. I believe that many people, while satisfied with Wamp generally, are both tired of his current campaign and of his political style generally. Robin Smith is very closely tied to Wamp and will suffer from the same Wamp fatigue that is currently hurting Wamp in our district.

Once again at the very least, I would like to encourage everyone out there to recognize that this district is imminently winnable. It is not as conservative as people would like to think. Rather, TN-03 has a strong moderate streak, and it will be won by the candidate who can win over moderates. Brent Staton has exactly this appeal.


[ Parent ]
TN 3
That district is R+13. The Dems would have to run Peyton Manning to win it in a year like this.

That district has a crazy shape (goes all the way to the KY state line) and looks gerrymandered, but why? All three east TN districts are blood-red. They could have at least made them more contiguous. Did Wamp (who is from Chattanooga) make some enemies in the legislature, prompting them to stick him with a district that's a pain in the ass to get around?  

41, Ind, CA-05


[ Parent ]
Look at my response above yours
In 2002 the Democratic controlled state legislature drew TN-3 to pack in Republicans and shift Democratic counties on the Cumberland Plateau into TN-4, then held by retiring Republican Van Hilleary, who ran for Governor. TN-4 was specifically drawn for State Senator Lincoln Davis, a conservative Democrat who they thought could, and did, win a newly drawn and slightly more Democratic TN-4. Davis would have probably lost the old TN-4.

TN-3, like TN-7, was gerrymandered to enable the 5D-4R congressional delegation Tennessee has enjoyed since those districts were drawn.

Democrat: TN-8


[ Parent ]
Prediction
Wamp to join other GOP Congressman failing in their bid for promotion. Barrett in SC, Hoekstra in MI, Tiahrt in KS. Doesn't bode well for Deal in the GA runoff.

Well
What about Kirk in IL, Moran in KS, Fallin in OK?

They did fine.


[ Parent ]
Bad analogy
Kirk faced a some dude, Moran faced a fellow congressman (so obviously the winner would have been a congressman), and Fallin (and Roy Blunt for that matter) faced a crazy loser state senator. When congressmen go up against statewide elected officials (Karen Handel) or businessmen with "moderate" appeal (Rick Snyder, Bill Haslam) they get their asses kicked.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
forgot SC...
but I think the Palin endorsement was the main driving factor there to be honest, also the whole desire to nominate someone who's not a white male but still as wacky as the rest of the GOP.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Guesses
Governor:

Haslam - 44
Wamp - 28
Ramsey - 23
Basil Marceaux.com - 3
The other guy - 2

TN-03: Fleischmann.
TN-04: DesJarlais.
TN-06: Tracy.
TN-08: Flinn.
TN-09: Cohen.


TN-8: Flinn? Bold prediction!!
Flinn winning would be awesome. I doubt he could win a general election race, esp. with the tea party-ish, Don Janes on the ballot as an independent.  

Democrat: TN-8

[ Parent ]
I think
the strongest person Herron could face is Kirkland. Mainly because Kirkland and his brother could bury Herron in a mountain of negative advertising like he did with Fincher and Flinn.

And why doesn't your state have runoffs like most of the south does?! It would of been fun to see Fincher and Kirkland slug it out for a few more weeks.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


[ Parent ]
Agreed about Kirkland
I concur that Kirkland would be the strongest opponent to Herron due to geography and the money he and his brother would be able to spend.

As for run-offs, it all harks back to we that we still operate under a state constitution written in 1870. Thus, why we hold primaries on Thursdays. We could have changed it during several constitutional conventions over the years, but I am unaware if the idea has ever received serious debate.

Democrat: TN-8


[ Parent ]
My Governor numbers were pretty good
I obviously need pull numbers out of my ass more often, rather than actually thinking about it.

[ Parent ]
Pretty good numbers Johnny
I predicted the Gov race exactly somehow, which was an  educated estimation. I blew TN-8 pretty bad in terms of the size Fincher's win and Kirkland's collapse. I did guess that TN-6 would be a dead heat, while underestimating Zelenik's strength, who cost Tracy the race. Wharton also did not perform as well I as I thought he would, he performed almost as a minor candidate would be expected.

Democrat: TN-8

[ Parent ]

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