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You Can Vote However You Like, or Analyzing Fulton County, Georgia

by: jeffmd

Thu Jul 29, 2010 at 11:51 AM EDT


I don't think it's a stretch to say that Fulton County, Georgia, is quite a polarized place. Even its shape is odd, formed as a consolidation of an older Fulton with Milton County to the north and Campbell County to the south during the Great Depression; it's now Georgia's most populous county. Alternatively, you can think of it as a county that on one end gives us T.I. (to whom the title pays homage) and Ludacris (both of whom are from Atlanta), and Tom Price (Roswell) and Jeff Foxworthy (Alpharetta) on the other.

Now, in 2008, Fulton County gave Barack Obama 67% of the vote. But, as its diverse history and composition would suggest, that was far from uniform:


As you can see, the county's also quite racially polarized (% Black registered voters on the right).

More over the flip...

jeffmd :: You Can Vote However You Like, or Analyzing Fulton County, Georgia
Now without getting into the politics of municipal incorporation that I'm far from qualified to talk about, you can see that Fulton's quite the tale of two cities, er...former counties. If we take the 112 precincts (and six municipalities - Alpharetta, Johns Creek, Milton, Mountain Park, Roswell, and Sandy Springs) that form completely incorporated North Fulton (from which many county secession efforts start in the Georgia Legislature), we would get this astonishing result:


"Milton" South Fulton
Population (2009) 303,469 730,287
Obama 56,678.61 215,312.39
McCain 86,673.18 43,462.82
Total 144,644.68 260,296.32
Obama% 39.18% 82.72%
McCain% 59.92% 16.70%
Reg. Voters 197412 356801
Black RVs 10.43% 51.62%
Hisp RVs 1.40% 0.74%
Asian RVs 2.38% 0.57%

Fulton County would lose its most-populous title to Gwinnett County and DeKalb would move to 2nd, while "Milton" County would be the 5th largest county, with Cobb at 4th. More interestingly, Milton County would be a 60% McCain jurisdiction, while South Fulton would shoot to 83% Obama. Perhaps also tellingly, "Milton" is 10% Black, 2% Hispanic, and 3% Asian (by registered voters), South Fulton is 52% Black.

Of course, we don't need to consider the wet county secession dreams of some suburban Republicans to see this polarization - we can examine the results by municipality. (Sidenote: five points for Fulton County for good precincting procedures...more on that later.)




Municipality Obama McCain Total Obama% McCain% %Black %Hisp %Asian
Alpharetta 8,380.27 14,253.58 22,784.46 36.78% 62.56% 8.92% 1.56% 2.89%
Atlanta 143,150.79 35,609.43 180,059.08 79.50% 19.78% 44.05% 0.72% 0.71%
Chattahoochee Hills 381.96 827.87 1,233.70 30.96% 67.11% 23.49% 0.65% 0.20%
College Park 4,584.40 607.66 5,218.90 87.84% 11.64% 62.98% 0.89% 0.16%
East Point 13,838.28 1,209.71 15,109.12 91.59% 8.01% 66.37% 0.96% 0.25%
Fairburn 4,018.35 773.27 4,814.00 83.47% 16.06% 63.16% 2.05% 0.52%
Hapeville 997.56 653.96 1,676.88 59.49% 39.00% 31.68% 2.26% 2.14%
Johns Creek 10,957.29 18,476.15 29,689.93 36.91% 62.23% 7.71% 1.45% 5.66%
Milton 3,914.32 8,915.53 12,931.26 30.27% 68.95% 7.60% 1.46% 1.69%
Mountain Park 145.26 175.73 328.45 44.23% 53.50% 1.01% 0.25% 0.25%
Palmetto 959.27 345.31 1,309.05 73.28% 26.38% 51.61% 1.66% 0.05%
Roswell 14,582.85 23,392.87 38,415.64 37.96% 60.89% 9.03% 1.34% 1.30%
Sandy Springs 18,698.61 21,459.31 40,494.94 46.18% 52.99% 15.48% 1.31% 0.94%
Union City 6,588.59 790.97 7,391.49 89.14% 10.70% 71.37% 0.64% 0.11%
Uninc South Fulton 40,802.19 2,644.63 43,484.11 93.83% 6.08% 78.20% 0.49% 0.17%

Anyways, I'll let the numbers speak for themselves on that one.

Sidenote number 2: At this point, you're probably going, "WTF, Jeff??" and wondering if I'd hit some of the ganja that Rogers County, OK was busy with last night. Well, the reason there are decimal points is because of the allocation of early votes to precincts. 45% of votes in Fulton County were cast early and not allocated to specific precincts. Additionally, Obama won 62% of votes cast on Election Day in Fulton, and a whopping 75% of votes cast Early. Early votes are non-trivial and need to be allocated. Thanks to the University of Georgia, we do know how many voters in each precinct voted, and from that we can allocate early votes. I'm always hesitant to round at an early stage (this would lead to significant discrepancies, especially here), so that's why you get decimal points.

Oh, and for reading this far (including both sidenotes!), you get a prize in terms of more eye candy.


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Holy shit!
Awesome maps.  Does this mean Georgia will be getting political data for Georgia in Dave's Redistricting App soon?

With regard to the North Fulton/race issue, I think the Republicans' days of pushing this issue, at least in its current form, are numbered.  If you look at those city numbers, Obama apparently overperformed among whites, even in North Fulton.  If you assume that every minority voter voted for Obama, then Obama would have gotten 27% of whites in Alpharetta, 26% in Johns Creek, 22% in Milton, 43% in Mountain Park, 30% in Roswell, and 35% in Sandy Springs.  And, of course, not every minority voter voted for Obama, so those numbers are actually higher.  And they're all still better than Obama's numbers among white voters statewide.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


Is this a precursor for partisan data on DRA?
I saw this on Facebook: "Everything you wanted to know about Fulton County, Georgia's voting patterns (but were too afraid to ask)" and headed over here.

I have a question (that maybe I was too afraid to ask?) that I've been wondering for awhile--the question hasn't exactly consumed me, but I still think it's an interesting one. You make the point about racial voting patterns in Fulton, and what really sticks out to me is voting trends in Atlanta. It seems like there's a large concentration of white, liberal voters. The statistical evidence seems to point that way, as Obama received 79.5% of the vote share in Atlanta, while there is only a 44% black vote share, a difference of 35.5%. The only other city that has this difference is Mountain Park, a 43% difference. I've always felt as though there was a extreme racial polarization in terms of voting in GA, but I'm wondering if anyone could explain where the white liberals are, if there are any.

Thanks jeffmd for the interesting post! Good work!

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


I don't know fully, but...
Here's a map of the 2009 Atlanta mayoral race by city council district.  They also have racial and partisan numbers: http://www.ajc.com/news/atlant...

It actually seems like the uber-black districts were LESS Democratic than than their racial composition would indicate.  Also, look at my comment above yours.  Plus, notice that Hapeville is majority white/majority Obama.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


[ Parent ]
Thanks!
In response to both your and TheUnknown's question about racial voting - we can actually go further and determine the race of people who actually voted in 2008, not just who's registered. I'm thinking that could help remove some of the effect of disparate turnout among racial groups.

White liberals - my understanding (from 600 miles away) - is that they likely live "ITP"; I'm guessing that applies in DeKalb County also. I might do a follow-up to try to examine, essentially, where white liberals are.

And partisan data - we're trying to time the release of new states (and to update old states) with the release of Census Data later this year and early next year. Gathering the necessary data (both geographic and political) in preparation for that - is quite the logistic challenge; there'd still be another intermediate step of incorporating the census data after release before any data's finally ready to go in the DRA>


[ Parent ]
Interesting
information on a truly weird looking county.  One question, though, what is T.I.?

I think I'm showing my age here.
He's a rapper with songs now and then on mainstream Top 40 Radio, but is probably more well known for various federal weapons charges...for which he served a short time in prison and a year under house arrest.

[ Parent ]
Haha
He's a rapper and a proud son of the ATL

20, CD MA-03/NH-01/MA-08

[ Parent ]
It's a calculator
From Texas Instruments.

Oh....oh, you mean the shitty rapper T.I. Sorry, my mistake.  :)

I'm just playin', T.I., we all know the shittiest rapper from ATL is Ludacris, no contest.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
Haha
I'm glad you clarified; reading SSP is what kept T.I. sane during his year in the slammer.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

[ Parent ]
at least
TI didn't suddenly jump into a Justin Bieber song with "WHEN I WAS 13, I HAD MY FIRST LOVE..." I don't think that mark will ever come off of Luda's record.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Flipping Georgia
Obama came within five points of flipping GA in 2008.  Could he have a chance of flipping it in 2012?

If people
feel that the economy is turning around by 2012 and HCR is popular by then sure he could flip it. But then the opposition is going to be gunning to beat Obama like how Dems wanted to take out Bush in 2004 so if Obama wins in 2012 it will be probably by a narrow margin like Bush in 2004. We're not going to win Indiana, NC and probably not Virginia anytime soon.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Four words
"Republican nominee Sarah Palin."

If she runs, I could see Obama winning Georgia.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
I disagree w/r/t GA
I think as the 2012 Presidential nominee, she'd solidify R holds on "bible belt" states like GA. However, her presence should also make less bible-centric states like VA, IN, NC, OH, etc.. more blue.

[ Parent ]
She didn't solidify it in 2008.


Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

[ Parent ]
She wasn't on top of the ticket
I know several bible-belt Georgians who held their nose just to vote for McCain, who might as well have been Neville Chamberlain in their eyes.

And this http://www.newsweek.com/2010/0... suggests (IMO) that her appeal to that demographic may still be growing.


[ Parent ]
It's not like her placement on the ticket was kept hidden.
She was, afterall, the first woman to run on a Republican ticket.  Despite Sarah Palin on the ticket, "war hero" John McCain at the top of the ticket, AND that scary "Muslim" on the Democratic ticket, Democratic performance among whites stayed the same.  There just didn't seem to be much of a gain for McCain here.  

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

[ Parent ]
Neville Chamberlain?
Dare I ask what you've been reading lately :-)

[ Parent ]
And even he still increased his overall popular vote margin


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