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MS-03: Could Mike Moore Run?

by: James L.

Sat Aug 18, 2007 at 2:58 AM EDT


With the surprise retirement announcement of Republican Rep. Chip Pickering on Thursday, the bulk of the attention has been focused on potential Republican candidates for the seat (see here).  Given that Pickering's district has a strong Republican lean (R+14.1), such speculation is certainly understandably.  But a Democratic bench does indeed exist in Mississippi's third, and with the obvious Republican heavyweight, Lt. Gov. Amy Tuck (herself a former Democrat), declining the opportunity to run according to the Commercial Dispatch, the field could get a lot more interesting on both sides of the partisan divide.

One such Democratic bench member with ties to the district is none other than former state Attorney General Mike Moore, and currently practices law in Jackson, a city partially located within the 3rd Congressional District.  Moore, who left a stellar record during his time as AG, was considered a likely Democratic candidate for Senate in the event of a Trent Lott or Thad Cochran retirement.  But with Cochran likely to run again, Haley Barbour looking mostly strong in his gubernatorial re-election bid this year, and the AG post safe in the hands of Democrat Jim Hood, Moore could not satisfy his statewide ambitions for at least another four or five years (either for a gubernatorial bid in 2011 or a run at Lott's Senate seat in 2012, if open).  And while Moore was very popular during his four terms as AG from 1988-2004, the last time that his name was on the ballot was in 1999--a considerably long political hiatus.

If Moore wanted to keep his name recognition alive and well, running for--and more importantly, winning--a rare open Mississippi House seat would certainly help him keep his name in the public consciousness.  So will he do it?  The early answer, delivered via a surrogate, is no:

Former state Attorney General Mike Moore - a Democrat who ran for the U.S. House in 1989 - said he's not interested in seeking Pickering's seat, according to Jonathan Compretta, an associate in Moore's law firm who's campaign manager for current Attorney General Jim Hood.

Under normal circumstances, that would be that.  But are Mississippi Democrats willing to take that as their final answer?  According to Will Bardwell, the locals are at least putting in the effort to persuade Moore to look seriously at the race:

Word around the campfire is that Democrats are attempting to schedule a meeting with former Attorney General Mike Moore to persuade him to run for Chip Pickering's congressional seat.

The move would make all the sense in the world for Moore, whose ultimate goal is the U.S. Senate but whose name recognition and political stock have been collecting dust since he left state government in January 2004. A seat in Congress would be an ideal launching pad and would keep Moore's name recognition fresh while he waits for a Senate seat to open in either 2012 or 2014.

The only drawback is that, as of now, Moore carries no real political baggage, which would inevitably change in a hurry after a few years in the House of Representatives. Still, manageable political baggage may be less of a hurdle in 2012 than nearly a decade of political decay.

So on the one hand, Moore could keep his profile alive by risking controversial votes on issues such as the war in Iraq, abortion, and immigration (assuming he wins), or he could risk facing a bit of a "whodat" factor in future statewide races by not having his name on any ballot in twelve or thirteen years.

If Moore is firm in his "no", the Democratic bench is not short on other potential recruits, such as former Gov. Ronnie Musgrove, and former Reps. Wayne Dowdy and Ronnie Shows (the latter of whom lost badly to Pickering in 2002 when their districts were merged after the 2000 census).  Shows, for his part, seems like a strong possibility to give this district another crack:

Shows said he's antsy to get back in Congress and might seek the seat again.

"Certainly I'm interested in it, but I got to think about it," he said today.

"I'm looking at it very strongly. ... I miss being there, but I've been pretty successful since leaving," he said.

In any event, with open seats an especially rare occurrence in Mississippi, state Democrats have pledged to field a serious contender for the open seat.  While there's no doubt it would be an uphill climb, would-be challengers could look to Democratic Rep. Gene Taylor, who won his Mississippi House seat with 65% of the vote in a special election in 1989 less than a year after Michael Dukakis collected an ugly 30% of the district's vote, for inspiration.

UPDATE: Cotton Mouth offers more possible Democratic and Republican candidates.

James L. :: MS-03: Could Mike Moore Run?
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Well
Do we even know if Moore lives in the district?

why run and risk losing - is worst district for him
If he has any hope or plan of a future statewide run for Senate or Governor, why would he risk running in a Congressional district that is so unfavorable to him.  He might be barely able to win statewide, but that assumes he would lose in this district handily but make up for it with votes in other districts.  Let's hope he does not run.

this district is not the most
Republican one in the state, that would Gene Taylor's, by a long shot. There is only one district in the state that does lean Democratic, so Moore would have to do well in it's other districts in order to win statewide. The districts not unfavorable to him, all that proves is that it was unfavorable to John Kerry, like the rest of the deep south. This district is not too Republican, and on a state level Democrats are instantly ten points more competitive than at a national level, so 55-45 in the Republican's favor if we run a standard, okay candidate. Moore makes it a race, and it becomes a toss up if he runs a good campaign and raises plenty of money, and the Republicans have a primary, which they probably will.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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I agree.
Here are the PVIs of Mississippi's congressional districts:

MS-04 (Taylor-D): R+16.3 (Bush '04: 68%)
MS-03 (Pickering-R): R+14.1 (Bush '04: 65%)
MS-01 (Wicker-R): R+10 (Bush '04: 62%)
MS-02 (Thompson-D): D+9.9 (Bush '04: 40%)

In order for Moore to win 50% statewide, he would need to outperform Kerry's totals by 10 points.  So while he wouldn't necessarily have to win Pickering's district, he'd have to come pretty darn close, assuming that he'd pick up that 10% evenly among all the districts (not always a safe assumption, I'll admit).


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Too bad
we had to make MS-02 so damn Democratic.  It would have been great to make MS-02 a 51%-49% Kerry district(would be safe Dem in the South) and make MS-03 only 56%-44% Bush district making it a good fit for a Conservative Ronne Shows type Democrat.

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Actually
you make MS-02 51/49, then it gets thrown out by a federal court due to the VRA-mandated minority/majority requirements.

Also, Thompson ran behind Kerry in 2004. Combine your idea with Thompson's performance, and you have trouble.


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It would be alright
making MS-02 51/49 Kerry would still leave it at a black majority(around 53%).  Any Republican who would beat Thompson in the new district would likely be a one-termer and be defeated by a more moderate Democrat who would hold the district easily.

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Anyways
i'm pretty sure that African-American Democrats and Republicans make up a majority of the chamber.

The African-American Democrats won't go for the map, because they remember that Republican Webb Franklin won in a 53% African-American delta district in the 80s. (And that Thompson won a special election 55/45 in a 59/41 AA district in 93)

The Republicans won't go for it because it would weaken the position of Pickering.

It's just not a realistic request and the votes are not there.


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As long as you don't reduce the total #
Of maj-min districts, you don't necessarily face a VRA problem, even if you reduce the strength of the minority in a given district.

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No Way
Unless there is some horrific political implosion, the district is a loser. At the most, it can be a little stepping stone for some young candidate.

District can be a winner
It's 40% black, but they don't usually vote, because it's a waste of time. But believe me, blacks don't vote Republican. Add another 10%+1 white liberals, and you have a win. Unfortunately, the prevailing wisdom is that you have to run a white, conservative, good ol' boy to win in MS. When you do that, the blacks and white liberals stay home, and we lose. If we run a progressive candidate that will excite that base, we can make a competitive race.

Mike Moore would excite the base, but he probably won't run. He could have run for Governor and won, but he didn't. In this case, I think his family really was a factor. He had young children and needed to earn some money, having been an honest government employee most of his career. I don't know if he's ready yet. He's an unusual person and can turn down power opportunities for family reasons.

Personally, I'm looking for a charismatic, black female. I'll let you know when I find one.


We need a Conservative populist
like Gene Taylor to run in the district.  The district is 34% black(they will turn out for white populist like Gene Taylor or Wayne Dowdy).  The key to winning the district is to get a huge turnout from blacks and get their 34% and then pick up about 25% of white Conservatives. 

The problem in these types of districts these days is that while Southern blacks will vote about 95% Democratic, Southern whites will vote about 95% Republican.  This is exactly what happened in GA-10.


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Show me where southern whites vote 95% Republican.
In Mississippi, especially state level races it is closer to 30/70.  It's still winnable with an excited base.

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District can be a winner
Because of your screenname, I'm under the impression that you're a "native"; so your comment intrigues me.  Maybe you know something that outsiders don't know because all they (we) can do is refer to statistics.  What is there to back up your beliefs that those types of voters as well as their numbers are there and can be tapped into?  And are there others who share your perceptions?

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Yep. Natchez MS is local like myself.
Natchez MS has a blog http://natchezms.blo... that is specific to city politics in Natchez.

I'm not actually in District 3 (I'm in Gene Taylor's district); Natchez MS is.

Her perceptions may be correct.  A Democrat who runs without running as "not that kind of Democrat" would likely do better and many Dems would show up who don't currently bother.


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I write for Cotton Mouth www.COTTONMOUTHblog.com
It's the ONLY site covering politics statewide in Mississippi from a pro-Democratic angle.

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