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CA-Sen: Boxer Has 3-Point Lead in Field Poll

by: Crisitunity

Thu Jul 08, 2010 at 1:42 PM EDT


Field Poll (pdf) (6/22-7/5, likely voters, 3/9-15 in parens):

Barbara Boxer (D-inc): 47 (44)
Carly Fiorina (R): 44 (45)
Undecided: 9 (11)
(MoE: ±3.2%)

Barbara Boxer has a 3-point lead in the Field Poll, their first look at the Senate general election in three months; while that's not a number that should fill people with great confidence, it's an improvement from three months ago, when Boxer led by 1. (By the way, can someone please familiarize the crew at Talking Points Memo with the concept of "trendlines?" For the second straight day, they've mischaracterized the Field Poll's results, with a teaser reading "Tightening?" and a headline of "Fiorina Closing in on Boxer.")

The number that pundits seem to be focusing on is that Boxer's approval has gone negative for the first time, at 42/48 among LVs and 42/43 among RVs. That is indeed troubling, but there's something of a disconnect between that and the toplines, where apparently 5% of the population doesn't approve yet plans to vote for her anyway (presumably because they dislike Fiorina even more?).

Interestingly, compared with the Governor's race, Boxer has the opposite strengths as Jerry Brown: Boxer has a broad lead among Latinos, 55-32, and among the 18-39 set, 52-33. The 65+ segment are the ones keeping Fiorina in this race, backing Fiorina 50-46. A lot of that may have to do with the way that Meg Whitman is campaigning, based on her use of social media to reach the young'uns and Spanish-language media to reach Latinos (including rollout today of a billboard advertising blitz touting her opposition to not only Arizona's immigration law but even her 16-years-too-late opposition to Prop 187).

At any rate, Brown and Boxer's success seems increasingly interlinked (especially since, as many pundits are pointing out today, this is Boxer's first election where she doesn't have strong top-of-the-ticket coattails... and, yes, for that analysis to work, that means that Gray Davis was actually strong in 1998). Brown needs to reach out to traditional Democratic constituencies, while Boxer mostly needs those constituencies that already support her to actually show up, which would be helped if Brown could generate some more excitement.

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Interesting more people view Boxer unfavorably than view her job performance unfavorably
Isn't it often the other way around?

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



I'm not surprised
Boxer has been absolutely catty:

"Call me Senator!" (To an Army General)

"Elections matter." (To James Inhofe)

I don't think people really care if she's doing a good job or not because she votes the way they like.

It's her personality which gives many--including myself--ample pause.

Then I consider Fiorina and when she says she would have voted no on health care, I'm back to square one, which is pretty much where this race is going to stay until Nov. 2 when people hold their nose and give Boxer one more term.


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Boxer always has been much more disliked than Feinstein......
They don't vote much differently, but personality is everything in the difference between the two.  Feinstein comes off as even-tempered and people interpret that as "moderate" and like her.  Boxer is much more temperamental, and people dislike her and view her as "more extreme" than Feinstein.

In reality their politics are largely in the same place.  But temperament matters as much as ideology in a politician's public image.

I live in VA-10, and my Congressman, Frank Wolf, is a classic example of that.  He votes the same and his ideology is in the same place as any of the hard-right nut jobs.  But Wolf never says anything to piss people off.  He's even-tempered rhetorically, he emphasizes non-ideological local issues, and he quietly votes exactly how the most rabid right-wing nuts want him to vote.  That combination makes Wolf invulnerable in what is a purple district (Obama won by 6).

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
I never saw the "call me Senator" one
I did see the one where she cracked down on Inhofe, but honestly, he deserved it.

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It comes down to these
Questions when people decide who to vote for:

Who will make a better Senator? Someone who asks a general to call her something different or someone who ran a large company to the ground when an economy was good?

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17, CA-06,  


More likely scenario
"there's something of a disconnect between that and the toplines, where apparently 5% of the population doesn't approve yet plans to vote for her anyway (presumably because they dislike Fiorina even more?)."

With Fiorina's rating at a 34/29, its more likely that the 5% (or probably more) who support Boxer more than her personal approval rating are undecided about how they feel about her, disaffected Democrats, or caused by a fraction of undecided voters who are favorable towards her.


On the whole, I think these are actually decent #s for Fiorina
For one, I think they've oversampled Democrats by at least 3-5% here, though, to be fair, I think their GOP sampling is about right (with their Indie sample low). Stick with Dems for the moment, I think Fiorina needs at least 20% of them to prevail, but Boxer at 75% w/ her own party isn't too impressive. It also looks like Fiorina's holding the GOP turf in the south, and she's winning among the age groups that will actually GOTV.

The best news this poll has for Boxer, I think, is she's about on-target with Hispanics, and she's holding her ground with the Independents who Fiorina needs to win over. In order to win, I think Fiorina needs the edge among non-affiliateds.

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Once
the Boxer ads highlighting Fiorina's dismal record at HP start running, her poll numbers should start dropping like a rock.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
I would be very wary
About taking Field's numbers at anything but face value. Fiorina can win but I seriously doubt she will.

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Boxer and Brown have the same weakness
They are not warm and fuzzy.  One is the eccentric uncle and the other is sounds strident saying "pass the peas" at the dinner table.

The fact they ran unpposed is yet another fail for the California Democratic party.  Add in the completely unlikeable DiFi and there isn't a freaking likeable top Dem politician in California.

At the same time, none of this is much of a problem.  If either of these two were likeable, both would win by Obama-like numbers.  But even being unlikeable, the various polls are clear that the voters wants a Senator who supports the Obama agenda, and no matter how unlikeable these two are, they are Bert and Ernie cuddly in contrast to Meg Whitman.

Carly can't win because she is a Republican.  Meg can't win because most people simply hate her face and voice and name.


I agree
When my only choices for voting against Boxer in the primary were "creepy" and "creepier," I quickly came to the conclusion that CA Dems care nothing for intra-party competition, which is sad because Boxer is hella-rusty and there are a number of other qualified peeps in the establishment who deserve a crack at that seat (read: Linda Sanchez).

Oh well, Boxer can keep the seat warm for Kamala Harris.


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Im firmly rooting for either Sanchez
if DiFi retires in 2012.  Loretta would have excellent potential as a national candidate as well.  If Hillary isnt the nominee in 2016, she and Klobuchar would probably be battling it out for the spot.

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Not to say both of them shouldnt just run for President themselves
You dont need Hillary-type stature to run for President as a woman!  It's okay to start off with low name recognition and build it up.

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I daresay...
your reasoning on Carly not winning just because she's a Republican is somewhat misguided.  What will hurt her more is that she's a pro-life Republican running in California.

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You've switched the March numbers.
Boxer was up 45%-44% in March, not the other way around.


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