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SSP Daily Digest: 6/30

by: Crisitunity

Wed Jun 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM EDT


CA-Sen, CA-Gov: There's no shortage of pollsters looking at California, and now Canadian firm Ipsos (on behalf of Reuters) piles on. They find, like most pollsters, single-digits leads for the Democrats in both major races: Jerry Brown leads Meg Whitman 45-39 in the gubernatorial racer, while Barbara Boxer leads Carly Fiorina 45-41. They also find the proposed ballot initiative legalizing marijuana failing but by a close margin, 48-50.

CO-Sen: The endorsement that seemed to blow everyone away yesterday was Bill Clinton's unexpected backing of Andrew Romanoff, who's mounting a primary challenge to appointed incumbent Michael Bennet in the Senate primary. It may not be that surprising, though, given Clinton's willingness to go to bat for lost causes who backed Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign in 2008, which Romanoff did. It sounds like Clinton's intervention will be limited to fundraising e-mails, though, rather than stumping with Romanoff.

FL-Sen: The criminal case against former state GOP party chair Jim Greer is interesting enough on its own. But it could get even more interesting if Charlie Crist gets called to testify as a witness, which could happen, as his name is on a list of potential witnesses that's being circulated.

IL-Sen: Mark Kirk, having offered some weak excuses ("I wasn't thinking") at his public appearance yesterday to apologize for his resume embellishments, tried to get back on the offensive against Alexi Giannoulias, rolling out two ads. That includes one that tries to get back to the whole "mob banker" meme. Giannoulias, however, isn't letting the resume flummery issue die; he rolled out his own attack ad today keeping Kirk's misrememberments front and center.

KY-Sen: Charming: Lt. Gov. Dan Mongiardo, who narrowly lost the Democratic primary to AG Jack Conway, isn't going to endorse anyone in the Senate race. Also, he said he isn't planning to run for Governor next year. (Steve Beshear is running for re-election, but dropped Mongiardo from the ticket in favor of Louisville mayor Jerry Abramson, perhaps assuming that Mongo would already be Senator by 2011.)

NC-Sen (pdf): SurveyUSA (6/23-24, likely voters):

Elaine Marshall (D): 40
Richard Burr (R-inc): 50
Mike Beitler (L): 6
Undecided: 5
(MoE: ±4%)

We haven't been intentionally ignoring this poll from last weekend, just kept dropping the ball on getting it onto the front page. At any rate, this is one of those weird instances where Rasmussen sees a better race for the Dems than does SurveyUSA, although that may have to do with Rasmussen's odd tendency to see huge post-primary bounces.

NV-Sen: Last night's title heavyweight bout was between Sharron Angle and Jon Ralston on Ralston's public affairs TV show. Angle tried to emphasize her softer side, walking back earlier vague threats about armed insurrection, but still voiced support for Social Security phaseout and, maybe even more fatal for Nevada, support for the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste site.

WV-Sen: Don't get too comfortable in assuming that the West Virginia election to replace Robert Byrd won't be held until 2012. There are vague rumblings that, despite the SoS's decision, there might be a legislative special session this year to move the election date to November 2010. Bear in mind, though, that Dems thoroughly control the legislature so they'd be doing it only if they thought there was an advantage to doing it now instead of '12. As Aaron Blake points out, Joe Manchin is not only the heir apparent to the Senate seat but also the Governor, who has the power to move the special session agenda, so the whole thing is really up to him. (Manchin might figure his heavy popularity is more of an advantage in a shortened election season, instead of a multi-year ramp-up to 2012.) At any rate, Manchin seems content to take his time, wanting to wait until after Byrd's funeral next week to make any moves.

MN-Gov: Mark Dayton is flying in the face of conventional wisdom (conventional wisdom that ignores the success of recent pro-tax ballot measures in Oregon and freakin' Arizona) by making tax increases for the wealthy a cornerstone of his gubernatorial campaign. Dayton also just landed endorsements from 2006 gubernatorial candidates Mike Hatch, and ex-Rep. Bill Luther.

ID-01: Raul Labrador, the gift that just keeps on giving. Labrador, who just had to walk back criticisms of John Boehner, is now facing reports that he recently tore into John McCain at a pre-primary appearance and voiced his support for J.D. Hayworth. On a related note, the NRCC just promoted 16 more Young Guns to the top tier of their fundraising pyramid, but despite having won the primary here, Labrador's name is still nowhere to be seen on the list.

KS-04: Here's some trouble for Wink Hartman, the businessman competing with Mike Pompeo for the GOP nomination in this Todd Tiahrt-held open seat. Pompeo's camp is making hay out of reports that Hartman, whom they've accused of carpetbagging in from Florida, is still taking a valuable homestead exemption on his expensive house in Florida, which would require that to be his primary residence.

LA-02: State Rep. Cedric Richmond seems to have a big advantage in his quest to win the Democratic nomination in the 2nd; he's released an internal poll taken by Zata|3 (which you might remember polling the Arkansas primaries on behalf of Arkansas Business Journal), giving him a 53-13 lead over fellow state Rep. Juan LaFonta. No general election numbers for the battle against Republican Rep. Joe Cao were released.

VA-05: Rep. Tom Perriello is out with what might get my vote for the best candidate TV ad of the cycle so far. (Well, the best ad not featuring Dale Peterson, I suppose.) It's attention-grabbing and light-hearted enough to break through the clutter, while still staying on-message on the issue of jobs.

WA-02: Talk about an utter polling fail. John Koster, the Republican challenger to Rep. Rick Larsen, is touting a poll with a lead over Larsen but isn't giving the name of the pollster or even the specific numbers (saying he's "in the neighborhood of 53 to 47 percent" - wow... no undecideds?). Larsen's camp is saying the poll is crap, and they have a little more than the usual platitudes to back that up: Larsen was actually one of the persons polled, and he helpfully jotted down all 12 questions the poll asked. One of them identified Larsen as... a Republican.

DCCC: Here's some good news; now that they're down to the final day of the quarter, the DCCC is actively twisting some arms to get recalcitrant House Dems to cough up their DCCC dues. So far, through the end of last month, House Dems have given $19.5 million over the cycle to the DCCC... but deadbeats still abound.

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Wow... what are the odds that a sitting member of congress would be part of the sample in his own race? Gotta be pretty damn low.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


I love this
It shows:

That people still do ACTUAL poling, even if it's crappy.
Larsen was at home in WA, meaning he goes home and doesn't jus stay in DC.

Also, as for your question, more than 200,000 people voted in 2006 in WA-02. If they're using a likely voter model and polled, say, 500, people, then the odds are 1 in 400. Pretty cool. Love this story.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan


[ Parent ]
Ads
I love the Periello ad. Further discussion in a Daily Kos diary that was on the Recommended list earlier today.

The ads by Kirk and Giannoulias are both very hard-hitting. The Kirk ad with the announcer who laughs about Giannoulias' relatively young age may leave a bad taste in the mouth of voters in their 40s and younger, though.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


Diary on the Rec list on DailyKos
by Alexi Giannoulias' Campaign Manager, about the ads by Kirk and Giannoulias:

"Lie" - It's OK to use the word

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Thanks for link, and campaign manager there answered my big question......
My big question was, is this going to be a TV ad, or just a web ad.  Someone asked, and the CM answered:  it will go on the air.

I was suspicious because it's 60 seconds, and most 60-second productions are web-only.  TV ad buys are usually 30-second spots, like Kirk's spots.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Loved it as well
Let's get him through 2010 and have him as a Senator down the road.

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Surprise: Perriello voted NO on Wall Street Reform bill today! Anyone know why???......
I'm curious where Tom was coming from on that one.

I looked at his House office and campaign sites and saw no mention of it, I've found nothing about his position on this bill on Virginia blogs I frequent, and a Google search turned up nothing.

For all the tough votes he's taken, I'm surprised on this one.  This is a popular bill and easy to stay with the party.  A bunch of Blue Dogs also voted no, and I find myself truly contemptuous of them.  I have no problem with Members in tough districts voting "no" on items like health care reform or cap-and-trade, especially when they PASS anyway, but really there's no excuse for a "no" vote on this one.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Its
possible he opposed the bill from the left, just like Russ Feingold is going to do.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
I thought about that possibility, but it's strange there's no press on it......
It's a big deal for a Democrat to oppose his/her own party's major legislation, and usually we learn these things in advance.  No this isn't as high-profile as health care reform, but it's high-profile enough that a Google search should turn up advance notice that Perriello opposed this bill.

I'll be curious what Perriello has to say about it.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
That
Perriello ad makes me smile. Its upbeat and at times funny. God I hope this guy pulls it out in November.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

Definitely
Whomever is in charge of his ads should get a raise and/or more work. His previous ones were quite good, too, as I remember, riffing on the inability of people to pronounce his name right.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

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Perriello
He seems like a very talented politician. With all of Grayson's money bombs, I think people should consider reps like Perriello to make donations to. He's in a harder district, and has an extremely bright future.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

[ Parent ]
Vitter raises over 1 millin again
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...
A little early, but I ain't complainin! I love this time of the year. He raised over 1 million this quarter and has around 5.5 million CoH.  

And Melancon Slashes Him Where It Hurts
Finally, Melancon seems to have had enough of Vitter's crap and is just going to go hard negative on him. When running against a sleazeball like Vitter, it's probably the right strategy, and there is so, so much material:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

I know you're a Louisiana Republican, GOPVOTER, but seriously, you can do so, so much better than Diaper Dave. How 'bout just one term of Melancon and then you can boot him for Bobby Jindal or someone less personally repugnant? Pretty please?

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
Hahah no
I'm not giving Mary Landrieu her biggest wish- getting Vitter out of the Senate. We've had to suffer for 13 years with her, I want her to suffer Vitter for her last 5 years in the Senate. Plus, barring extreme circumstances, I can not support a Dem for federal office. Plus, I don't hate Vitter. I would love him if it weren't for the prostitution thing. Which, I would probably not like him if it weren't for that, b/c if not, he'd be just like DeMint.  

[ Parent ]
wait, wha?
sorry, I just woke up and didn't quite fully get your last sentence...you wouldn't like him if not for the prostitution thing?

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
right
Because he'd be Jim Demint's 2nd in command. He'd be out there campaigning for Ken Buck, Chuck DeVore, etc.  

[ Parent ]
Who do you think is going to be taking
Mary Landrieu out in 2014 I do ask? Dardenne will wait for the Gubernatorial race, Jindal will preparing to launch his national campaign for President. Are you expecting Steve Scalise to run or something? Or Paul Fleming perhaps? Republicans always seem to hate Landrieu inordinately for someone who doesn't really do much to help the progressive agenda. Liberals hate her because she either votes against or forces any progressive legislation to be significantly watered down.

Though I must say Landrieu is a great Democrat compared to John Breaux, though I'd rather have even him over Vitter.

But I'll be holding my breath. All the conservatives I know always say, "Oh there's no way she'll win reelection. They said for 6 years between 2002-2008, and then she pulled it off both times, the second time by nearly 6 percentage points, despite McCain's 20 point coattails and the restructuring of voters that Katrina caused. Not to mention she won the runoff in 2002, (in which black turnout drops off significantly), even though in the initial round of voting the two main Republicans got a majority of the vote, and national Republicans tried to pull out every stop possible for Hitch-Terrell.  


[ Parent ]
Agree that Landrieu is a great Democrat
given how conservative LA is.  

But I don't see a path for reelection in 2014, which will likely be the sixth year of Obama's admin, and be a GOP-leaning year.  2014 in LA will likely be more GOP than was 2002 or 2008, and the GOP bench is growing, not shrinking.  

Any mainstream Republican or Congressperson, Scalise, Fleming, Boustany, or Cassidy could beat her.  She would probably need a Sharron Angle type as an opponent to survive.


[ Parent ]
Plus
Landrieu really screwed herself over during the first weeks of the BP spill by disappearing and not looking like she cared much about anything.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
A few problems
Scalise is an unknown and his base is in the most reliably Republican part of the state. He doesn't bring much politically or geographically to the table against her. Two, Boustany is an idiot. He may have been a noted surgeon, but he's come off as moron the last few years. Fleming is pretty far-right. I don't know how Carmouche managed to lose that seat, especially after the well-funded, establishment Republican got beat by that far-right unknown. Jindal's unnecessary rescheduling of the General Election I guess.

Cassidy would be an option because I made his district majority black in redistricting.  


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I think it'll be Cassidy
Either him or Fleming. Fleming can self fund. Cassidy is the only Republican house member in LA who is hoarding his cash. The other ones have donated a ton to candidates and the NRCC. Fleming is paying off his debt. I think Cassidy is most likely since he will have most money. Scalise would be good cause he is youngest but he wants to move up in leadership I think. Remember though, the last 2 Republicans elected to top office have held this seat (Vitter and Jindal) so it doesn't really hurt. Even with a Sharron Angle like opponent, Landrieu would be favored to lose.  

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I have it as Cassidy
because under my plan his seat is turned into majority black one and he's thrown in with Scalise. a 4 Republican 2 Democrat map is quite fair don't you think?  

[ Parent ]
I think it could happen
I hope it doesn't because I still dream of the day of a 7-0 Republican delegation. I know its probably not happening tho... :(  

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I can see Fleming being formidable
I met him once and talked to him for a few minutes and, while I agree with him on almost nothing, I found him to be a really charismatic guy.  In a jungle primary was between him and other Republicans not well known across the state I can definitely see him doing well.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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But the guy is so far right


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Its LA
Were very far to the right.  

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I know, unfortunately
It's annoying being stuck here, hah.

[ Parent ]
nope

2014/16 will be D leaning according to recent pattern.  2010/12 is R leaning.

But Landrieu's in her mid-sixties already and Louisiana is changing.  Conservative Democrats tend to do well until national Democratic support bottoms out, i.e. becomes purely liberal and center left votes, and subsequently slowly grows again with few or no conservative votes.  Around 40% liberal+center left strength seems to be the point where the other ~60% of the electorate unite and hand states over to the Republicans wholesale.  Louisiana probably bottomed out its national Democratic vote in 2008 if you drop away the chunk of the Presidential vote that was Obama-specific.


[ Parent ]
One itsy-bitsy problem
Mary Landrieu is 54. She would be 59 when she started a 4th term in 2015.  

[ Parent ]
Even a Sharron Angle type
would have a pretty good chance to beat her. It would take a David Duke type for Landrieu to be clearly favored, I believe (though don't take that to the bank).

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
A Sharron Angle type in Louisiana
may well have some real racial baggage too.

[ Parent ]
Okay, here's another reason to vote for Melancon
Although the fact that you seemingly aren't concerned with Vitter knowingly having an aide working on women's issues who slashed his girlfriend's face with a knife and held her hostage is a little disturbing, maybe I can appeal to your practical political side...so how about this reason:

Senator Mitch Landrieu.

If Melancon wins, Mitch won't run for Senate in 2016 because he wouldn't primary a fellow Democrat. But Melancon could easily lose to a competent, conservative, even probably a DeMint-like Republican.

If Melancon loses, by 2016 Mitch will have nearly completed two terms as NOLA mayor, and be looking for another job. And if he's revived the city as well as I think he will have, there's no one Democrats would rather run.

By then, Vitter will have an even longer list of horrible stuff he's done and be running against a Landrieu. And let's be frank, whatever you want to say about them, they don't screw around when it comes to politics. If you think Melancon hits hard, I can't imagine what the Landrieu clan would do to him.

Really, though, shouldn't being okay with domestic violence count as an "extreme circumstance"?

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
Did he do it?
I don't think so. He can't control what his aides do, even though it is horrible what he did. Plus, Landrieu wants to be governor. He doesn't want to be a Senator.  

[ Parent ]
He said he was aware of the "altercation"
I think for 2 years or something. In view of that, he should have fired the guy. I mean, that guy was is man on Women's Issues, for God's sake!

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
That ad is just brutal
I have no idea whether it'll have much effect on the race, but it hits VERY hard.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
There is no one I would like to see go
than Vitter.  This guy belongs in jail for his adultery/prostitution behavior.  

Shame on the US Senate for not expelling this moral degenerate creep!


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NC-Sen and KY-Sen
I'm surprised that Burr hit the 50% mark in the SUSA poll.  My instinct says that Burr would not poll over 45% at this time, with maybe a 5-8% lead over Marshall with the rest undecided.

Dr. Dan is a real jackass for not endorsing Conway.  If Dr. Dan believes that Paul is better than Conway, he should go ahead and leave the Democratic party.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


I forgot to mention...
That I was surprised that Burr got the 18-34 year old vote by a 2:1 margin.  Unless I'm not gauging my state well, I don't see that being reality.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

[ Parent ]
Bet it's the same situation
as Minnesota.  People of the demographic are very tech-oriented and dont use landlines.  Darn the Research Triangle for causing SUSA problems.

[ Parent ]
Ignore the age crosstabs, those are the most UNreliable in ANY poll......
Remember the crosstab age groupings are usually at least 3 categories, sometimes more, and the subsamples therefore so small that the margin of error is through the roof--high enough that the subsample isn't worth anything at all.

The only crosstabs worth looking at are those for a subsample that is an overwhelming majority of the total.  Usually that's only white voters in the racial breakdown.  Other crosstabs are valuable only to the extent that multiple polls by multiple pollsters show same or similar results:  i.e., SUSA shows one candidate winning most independents, not worth much by itself, but if other pollsters using different methodologies show the same, then bank it.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Survey USA continuously does this with the 18-34
age group though. There is something wrong with their methodology. This is a consistent problem (see their Minnesota polls).  

[ Parent ]
That age group is 19% of the total poll
I understand what you are saying, but I agree with others that these numbers are not reliable and therefore I question their methodology in gathering a realistic sample of 18-34 year old voters.  

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

[ Parent ]
but on such a consistence basis?
Seems more like flaw in their overall polling than a flaw in a poll here and there.

[ Parent ]
And they had consistently bad numbers for MN in 2008
Every single poll of theirs was complete garbage and showed much more favorable GOP results every time.  The main difference in their polls compared to others was the 18-34 demographic results.  We apparently loved us some McCain and Coleman.

[ Parent ]
HA HA
I'm 39, so I don't qualify in the 18-34 year old category.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

[ Parent ]
I agree with you
And that's what I was suggesting.  

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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It looks bad for Dr. Dan, but perhaps understandable
Yes, Dr. Dan does look like a sore loser, but his political career may have been ended by his primary loss, so supporting the man who ended it may be a bridge to far.  

Democrat: TN-8

[ Parent ]
Well that is also his fault,
I said at the beginning that I hoped both campaigns would have the sense not to start a negative attack against each other. I thought both candidates would have the common sense not to sense each should have had a continued future in Kentucky and shouldn't have wanted to alienate the political organization and base of the other.

But Mongiardo instigated an early bevy of attacks and basically spent most of the campaign acting like a douche.

And even then this didn't have to be end of his career, he should have still had a future, maybe back in the state senate, or as a future candidate for KY-05, but this, this is the end of him. It's the ultimate act of betrayal for a candidate seeking a high profile, competitive Senate seat not to attempt to unify his supporters behind the eventual nominee.


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A bridge too far for an asshole
Not for a stand-up person. If this is the end of his political career, it clearly couldn't happen to a "nicer" guy.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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It is NOT a bridge too far for any politician with honor......
Yes losing hurts.  Yes losing with the realization that your political career likely is done hurts a lot.

But so what?  That's life, it's not your whole life.  There is family, there is another career waiting for you, and still you probably have outsized influence in state politics just from having been in elective office and run for U.S. Senate twice.

You know you can lose every time you play.  Being an adult and being honorable means you take defeat gracefully and unify with your party.  That's what virtually everyone does.  Dr. Dan lost less of a career than Hillary did, and Hillary did the right thing, no surprise to anyone because it's what's commonplace and expected.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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BS
If Dr. Dan wants to go to Congress from KY-5 when Rogers retires, he probably would have a decent chance of getting there if he doesn't burn all his bridges.

[ Parent ]
This is ridiculous
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...
While I am anti-abortion and don't support abortion even in cases of rape or incest, this ad is a little nuts.  

That ad is sickening n/t


NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

[ Parent ]
The anti-choice side

is going off the deep end lately.  Well, around 2018-2020 they'll break up as an organized movement and then we can getting around to dealing with the matter sensibly.

[ Parent ]
CA Initiative
The marijuana initiative will get the potheads to show up. How do we make sure they don't vote for Meg and Carly?

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

If they are potheads who dont vote usually anyway
then they wont be voting for anything else on the ballot.

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That's unlikely
Potheads will vote for other stuff, too. If they're super low-information voters, they'll probably just opt for straight Democratic tickets as a bunch of them will think they have to vote for everything or their votes won't count. However, I would expect the Green Party to pull in a higher-than-usual share of the vote.

As for winning their votes, how about an ad with a pic of late-60s/early-70s Jerry Brown lookin' groovy in like High Times or something...next to a picture of Meg Whitman looking mean and uptight?

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
A lot of pot smokers use eBay!
I dont know a lot of pot smokers use eBay so maybe Meg wouldnt do so bad.

In all seriousness though I think the rise of the Tea Party could help efforts to pass the marijuana legalization prop.

There have been a lot of articles about how fiscal consevative/libertarian wing of GOP are more likely to favor reform of drug laws than the Paleo/Christian wing.

Palin, Paul and a lot of other of the Tea Party favorites tend to support decriminalization of marijuana.

So high turn out amongst Tea Party types could help the prop to pass.

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[ Parent ]
I'm betting that it won't.
But if it does I'd guess that they'd support Democratic candidates at a decent clip for the more liberal stances on social issues if nothing else. Then again the most "pro-cannabis" person I know is a randroid so maybe not.

[ Parent ]
I have my doubts that a pothead
would vote for a couple corporate CEOs.  But if you want to make sure, I guess you can Boxer and Brown take no position on the referendum while letting Meg and Carly rail hard against the referendum.  

I should note that I'm personally against the referendum.


[ Parent ]
Brown's coming out pretty hard against legalization again
"We got to compete with China, and if everybody's stoned, how the hell are we going to make it?" he (Brown) said.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.co...

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



[ Parent ]
Pretty dumb politically
Brown needs to connect with the young people of the state, who don't really know him or his record.  As far as I know, young people are probably strongly for this initiative, and coming out against it hard is probably not so smart.  

Although, I agree with his sentiment, personally I support decriminalization but not legalization, and I find using pot really stupid.


[ Parent ]
Oh, please, most people are anti-drug, and potheads aren't a constituency......
There is something really wrong with young people if most young voters are potheads.  I don't think many are potheads, and I don't think there's anything wrong with them.

No one lost any votes when the drinking age was raised to 21.  And Brown won't lose votes for opposing marijuana legalization.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Yup, it's difficult for me to believe
that potheads turn out and vote in significant numbers (though I have no data on such).

Even if they do, I don't think many potheads prefer Meg to Zen.

OTOH, if Brown came out for legalizing pot, he could be depicted as being outside the mainstream, even in CA.


[ Parent ]
It is hard to call a position polling 48%
on a ballot initiative to be outside the mainstream in CA.  The needle on this issue has moved quite a bit in the last decade.

 


[ Parent ]
You're right
I overstated my case.

Nevertheless, I don't see pot legalization as a core issue for all but a very few voters. I'm guessing some of them may be Paulites.


[ Parent ]
That's the dumbest argument against legalization I've ever heard.
n/t

[ Parent ]
I agree
With that logic why not ban every form of entertainment. We can't compete with China if we're at the amusement park.

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

[ Parent ]
Yeah, the potheads ain't voting GOP
I'm not convinced they'd necessarily vote Democratic either, though. I imagine the Green Party candidate would coalesce the bulk of those votes, which, of course, still isn't a whole lot.

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[ Parent ]
The Angle Interview
How is the Sharron Angle interview going over in NV?  Did she win over a lot of skeptics with the interview, or was the interview a Palin-style disaster?

looks to me like it blew up;
it was another round of her promoting far-right tea party views far outside the mainstream of Washoe and Clark county, moderate, business oriented conservatives who will form the key, but unhappy, element of Reid's winning coalition.  

[ Parent ]
Anyone see this about IL?
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/ey...

State election officials were moronic and never realized they needed to have a special election for the remainder of the Senate term as Burris is only a place-holder until an election can be conducted, not through the entire term.  Wuuuupppsss, that'll cost them.  (What a surprisingly foolish mistake too might I add.)


Just another reason
for people not to trust their state government in Illinois. How do you screw that up?

[ Parent ]
What I dont understand
is why they cant just pass a law that names the winner of the November gerneral to also be the winner of the Special. That way you only need to have 1 election that serves both purposes.

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[ Parent ]
That sounds like something they'd be smart enough
to manage over in IL.  Unless it's constitutionally mandated I spose then there'd be problems.  But every other state seems to change how Senators get into office all the time.

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Self-funding
I remember when Diana Taylor was considering a run for Senate in NY they said she could not use Bloomberg's money since they were not married. However, if they set up a joint bank account, couldn't she have used his money or does the law state you can only use a spouses money?  

Not sure
but Bloomberg could spend as much of his own money promoting her candidacy, bashing Gillibrand or on GOP party ops as long as he does not cordinate it with her campaign.

Like the brother of that guy who is running for congress is doing.

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DNC 2012 finalists
St. Louis, Charlotte, Minneapolis and Cleveland.

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...

Either of the first two I think.


Gotta go with Charlotte


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Tom Jensen had a good piece out last year arguing the convention's location doesn't really help the party in that state
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...

Though he doesn't mention how Minnesota swung less Democratic than all of it's neighbors.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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MN
Obama basically took it for granted and ran no ads.

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Yup, and McCain DID run a campaign there......
Only McCain ran any ads in Minnesota.  Obama ran none.  So of course the margin was down from the other blue neighbors.

I think McCain invested more in Iowa, too, than Obama, post-Labor Day.  So there, too, Obama's margin was a little smaller than many polls predicted.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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He really didnt air that many ads
But his campaign staffer who I worked with as a college organizer said that the campaign considered MN an all-in state as of like September.  I do think that died down by the time the election got closer as that was more towards the beginning of September when Palin was causing the numbers to tighten. Things certainly got a lot quieter after that, both on tv and on the radio.

They probably did spend a lot of money on organizing, though.  The guy in charge of Obama's MN campaign was Wellstone's campaign manager so grassroots Im sure was a major focus of the campaign.  They had two paid organizers at my campus of 6,000 undergrads alone, on top of me being a paid organizer through the DFL.  College organizers plus an organizer for a ward or two a piece in Minneapolis and St Paul, plus probably one for every suburb with there being an office and phone bank center within a 20 mile radius anywhere in the metro.


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Hmm
I wonder if Obama's pullout in Minnesota hurt Franken enough to draw that race into a dead heat.

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Couldve cost him some votes
But probably not enough to avoid a recount anyway.  And even if Franken lost, hard to blame Obama because any generic Democrat would've crushed Coleman like a bug even if Obama had stopped campaigning altogether in July here.

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I wonder what Franken's approvals look like
right now, since he has been a surprisingly effective spokesman in the Senate, and has come very eloquently in both the Senate confirmation hearings for Kagan and Sotomayor.  

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From doing so many redistrictings of MN
I have figured out that the biggest swings were a lot of rural areas here and IA's and WI's population is more rural based than MN's.  

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I duuno
There was a pretty nice swing in Anoka, Washington, and Dakota counties; in the suburbs. The other big swing in the state was Northwest MN, Collin Peterson's district, (which he is way too conservative for by the way), and that was mainly because Obama was running ads in the Fargo area in targeting North Dakota.  

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I'm wondering if you by chance
have done a redistricting that maximizes the number of competitive seats...  

Minnesota is Democratic enough that you probably need one or two safe Dem districts to make it work out, perhaps two safe Dem and one safe GOP and the other 5 competitive.


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Ive done one of those
You pretty much just need to re-balance the metro area seats and switch around some cities and even them out more however the GOP technically get screwed in this.

For the metro area it is impossible to create only one solid DFL seat and not have at least three of the others being too Democratic to really be swing-ish.  Having two separate districts means two districts can eat up all those DFL suburbs around the cities as well, otherwise they get spread out amongst 4 districts that'll be enough to make three of them almost assuredly DFL.  I spose I didnt try crazy gerrymandering, but then that would only cause Peterson to be safer anyway.

Since the DFL controls all the Greater MN districts as well, to make the map fair you'd have to screw over Peterson to make a solid GOP central MN district, Oberstar's would approach 60-40 Obama and be all of the Canadian border, and then Walz would still occupy his swing district.

3 DFL seats, 1 GOP seat, 4 swing seats.  I havent tried a 7 seat map as with that Id suspect you can get a single Twin Cities district and still have three swing metro seats.


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It also wouldnt help in combing the Twin Cities
That Rep. Betty McCollum actually lives a couple of miles outside of St. Paul so she'd have incumbency advantage and has been getting voted in by these voters for awhile now.

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We'll know tonight
Cleveland keeps LeBron, Cleveland can have whatever they want.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

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I think they should have the convention in Hawaii
The media will be nice to you if you take them to Hawaii.

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

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Go Cleveburg!!!
Maybe LeBron can make an appearance!

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Looking at Conventions and Senate races
Since 1960 the GOP and the Dems have both won 5 of the Senate races that occurred in the state they held their conventions in, and lost 3 of them.  Don't know if that tells us anything (if I could find House race results by state I'd do the math there) but worth pointing out.

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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Charles Djou stands with his Redstate puppets
and not Hawaii with his vote against the financial reform bill.  That should be his political death certificate.

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation...


Well
at least he can go down in full teabagging glory unlike Scott Brown who actually wants to be in the senate for a while. Now Hanabusa need to not screw this up....

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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She managed to beat Case after people calling for her to get out of the race
Im pretty confident in getting this seat back.

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Yep
I said before that this would be a big test for him and he failed. Unless Hanabusa manages to totally blow it, Djou will lose. If Castle votes Yes than Djou has to if he wants to survive.  

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Not so sure
The house bill was differrent than the Senate bill. It had the bank fees in it. Djou can try to spin it as voting against a tax increases.

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And he has also been getting good press
about repealing the Jones Act or at least getting an exeption for Hawaii for the law.

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LA GOP moves closer to controlling redistricting
Republicans are now even with Democrats in the House after Dem Rep. Simone Champagne switched to the Republican party. REps and Dems both have 51 seats with 3 independents. However, after Aug. 1, Dems will control by 1 seat when Rep. Wayne Waddell resigns. http://www.nola.com/politics/i...
Republicans are favored to hold the seat, so we will control the Gov and House. I think the independents lean GOP. I know atleast one does.

Senate's not up till 2011: Dems have 23-16 margin now
Would Louisiana's redistricting map need to be done by the 2011 elections (assuming no mid-decade redistricting)?

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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We still have 2/3
Governor and we'll have House with the Independents. I'm not sure.  

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Does it really matter?
With Melancon on his way out, I doubt Democrats will have a shot at any of the seats aside from LA-02 anytime soon.

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Melancon's seat likely gone in redistricting anyway......
Louisiana is gonna lose a seat, and frankly Democrats benefit since it means one less Republican from this state, and still one Democrat (from New Orleans).

If anything, can VRA force a 2nd majority-minority district?  That's our best bet at a 2nd seat.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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un-VRA the New Orleans district
Require a 40% black district based in New Orleans and a 50% black district upstate.
If you combine Orleans Parish with all of Jefferson Parish except the southern part currently in LA-03, then (according to Dave's App) you get a 41% black, 56% Obama district. Cedric Richmond can get reelected there as long as he doesn't suck.

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

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Sigh
Two VRA districts are quite easy. New Orleans seat is easy, as is working out a Baton Rouge, central south LA seat that is 50% black. That's probably what Democrats will push for in compromising.

Frankly I don't know what GOPVOTER is crowing about. Republicans already had effective control over the house due to Conservative Democrats who backed the Republican Speaker, (chosen by Bobby Jindal), and backed their legislation exclusively, including a Democrat like Noble Ellington.

Speaking of improbable Democrats in Louisiana, somehow a Democrat represents Grant Lasalle and Rapides Parishes, which probably gave McCain about 77% of the vote, and even gave Kennedy around 65% probably. Billy Chandler, and what's more he's not a long term incumbent, he just won in 2007, and he won with 64% of the vote. Some things just confuse me. That area is one of the most reliably Republican areas of the state.  


[ Parent ]
Chandler is a very conservative Democrat
as far as i know, though not the most conservative one. I always give follow link (to voting record of another Louisiana Democratic House member) as example:

Look HERE:

http://www.votesmart.org/issue...


[ Parent ]
It doesn't sound too bad
especially for a Democrat that Jindal appointed to a committee chairman, (yeah you heard right, in Louisiana the Governor recommends who becomes Speaker, State Senate President, plus doles out committee chairmanships, for the most part.  

[ Parent ]
Well. about 100% from Business organizations,
100% from social conservatives and so on. In almost any other state (even Southern, like Georgia or South Carolina) this person would surely be a Republican, and very conservative to boot...))))

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not every year, lol
only sometimes.

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About 4/5 of times, lol
And even when not, it's only because of such issues as casinos, bars and gaming, or increased salaries for legislators. These are issues where he sometimes votes "liberal" and they decrease his ratings))

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They could try
To limit the Republican-ness of some of the other seats while still keeping LA-02 a majority black, safe district, just lower around D+15, like MS-02, while having another district around R+6. Also, I think the most likely seat to be chopped up will be Alexander's. I think he may retire to protect Downer.  

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Are Alexander and Downer close?
Alexander will be 66 in 2012- if he wants he can probably stay in the House a while longer.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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I don't know
But I could see him just taking that opportunity to retire to make it easier for the legislature. I kind of hope he doesn't because with open primaries, that could be a competitive race, depending on what the new district looks like.  

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Not sure it matters
The GOP will hold all the seats except the black majority New Orleans one, and the same after redistricting.

The only way it matters is if the Obama Justice Dept or black groups decide they are going to fight for two black districts (a majority one in New Orleans and a "influence" one in Northern LA).

It is fair to say, I think, that the Democrats are probably not going to be winning a district that is less than 35-40% black anytime soon.


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it wouldn't be in North Louisiana
Come now, that just doesn't work. People are so misinformed. And La should have a second black seat, the black population is now over 40% of the population. The trick is to avoid a racial gerrymander, which I did.

I just don't know how to post images on this site from Dave's redistricting ap without using Microsoft paint and photobucket, (I don't have paint on this laptop).


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How do you avoid a "racial gerrymander"?
If you purposely draw a district that is majority black, that would be a racial gerrymander, no?  There isn't a compact area in Northern LA to get another black seat.  Perhaps you might if you make Baton Rouge the center of the second black seat, but even then, I don't see how can draw a black majority w/o gerrymandering.

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The court has been inconsistant here
but they struck down the infamous Z-shaped district in North Louisiana of Clyde Holloway.

It doesn't look beautiful, but a south central, majority black district can be made for Louisiana. he gist consist of taking black areas of Ascension parish, plus St. James, St. John the Baptist, part of St. Charles, part of Kenner, West Baton Rouge Parish, the black areas of Baton Rouge, West and East Feliciana plus St. Helena and on down in Tangiopha taking in Hammond, and finall over taking in Opelousas and St Landry parish as well as Carencro and northern, black ares of Lafayette Parish and souther Avoyelles, creating a 50% black, 46% white congressional district.  


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Cleo Fields rep´d the Z district


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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)


[ Parent ]
Louisiana is a lost cause for Democrats
Other than the New Orleans area seat, which they'll obviously win back in November, it's going to be hard to compete for any of the other House seats.

Depending on the political climate in 2014 and whether she runs for a fourth term, I'm not sure Mary Landrieu can remain in the Senate.


[ Parent ]
Didn't Fleming win by only a couple hundred votes?
why couldn't we beat him in a better year?

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Because you can't get better year then 2008 was...


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Because the election was in December
and not on election day in November.  A hurricane interfered with the primary date so they had to push it back which pushed back the GE.  Carmouche would have certainly won if the election was on the day Obama got elected with AA turn-out being what it should be.

Same with LA-2.  Although Jefferson had to go so that's whatever.  I remember chuckling to myself seeing Cao win.


[ Parent ]
In addition -
Carmouche was very well known and rather conservative "law and order" (and, of course, socially conservative) Democrat. He really would win in November 2008, but i am not sure how he would fare in November 2010...

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MD-Gov: Ehrlich selects fmr. Secretary of State Mary Kane for LG
Rove Group Looking More Impressive
http://www.politico.com/news/s...
Hopefully this is a sign big donors are abandoning Michael Steele...

We can only hope
n/t

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WA-Sen primary
Murray 37
Rossi 33
Didier 5
Akers 3

http://www.surveyusa.com/clien...

1% for GoodSpaceGuy but unfortunately nothing for Mike The Mover!


Will Elliot Spitzer run for NYC Mayor in 2013?
I hope not
(1) He's an asshole. (2) He showed in his brief stint as Governor that he sucks as an Executive.

He should have just stuck to being Attorney General, which he was great at, and kept his fucking dick in his pants.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Isnt it kind of
a question of definition that a "fucking" dick is almost necessarily NOT kept in the pants??

33, living in Germany  

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