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SSP Daily Digest: 6/25

by: Crisitunity

Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 3:08 PM EDT


AZ-Sen: Wow, ultimate blowhard J.D. Hayworth actually realized he was in an untenable situation and had to apologize... for his having appeared in an infomercial touting "free grant money" seminar ripoffs. (He was unapologetic on Monday when the story broke, saying Republicans' two favorite words: "buyer beware.")

CO-Sen: The Denver Post has a must-read profile of Ken Buck's time as a federal prosecutor in Colorado, focusing on a 2000 case where he declined to file charges against gun shop owners, suspected of illegal sales, that he knew from local Republican circles. The incident ended with Buck resigning in 2002 to take a job as counsel for a construction company, after receiving a letter of reprimand and having to take ethics courses. (Ironically, the US Attorney who issued the letter of reprimand is Republican now-AG John Suthers, who probably would have been the GOP's strongest Senate candidate here had he decided to run.)

CT-Sen: Linda McMahon is accusing Rob Simmons of running a "stealth campaign," despite his having "suspended" his operations. Simmons' name remains on the ballot, and he still has a skeletal staff, although apparently for fundraising purposes and to help other local candidates... but it seems pretty clear he's keeping his engine idling in the event that the McMahon campaign implodes, which is probably the source of her chagrin. McMahon is also out with a new ad, which, for the first time, features her admitting to her past as pro wrestling impresario (instead of just vagueness about being a "businesswoman"); she says that pro wrestling "isn't real" but "our problems are." Yeah, tell Owen Hart it isn't real...

KS-Sen: Sarah Palin sez: Get a brain, Moran! Well, she didn't quite say that, but she did tell her Facebook legion to support Todd Tiahrt in the GOP Senate primary in Kansas instead of Jerry Moran. Social con Tiahrt trails fiscal hawk Moran in the polls, though.

NV-Sen: There's more amazing dirt today on the Independent American Party, the right-wing third party in Nevada that included Sharron Angle as a member back in the 1990s. The party, during that time period, paid for a bizarre anti-gay flier (referencing "sodomites" and "brazen perverts") to be included in local newspapers. The party's other pronouncements during this time included prohibiting "the financing of the New World Order with American taxes" and eliminating "the debt money system."

TX-Sen (pdf): PPP has approval numbers for Kay Bailey Hutchison as part of their Texas sample this week, and they might give her some pause about running for re-election in 2012 (which she's on the fence about, apparently). Her futile run for Governor seems to have hurt her standing, as her overall approval is 37/43 and it's only 47/37 among Republicans. On the question of whether she should run again, Republicans are split 43/43, and maybe most alarmingly for her, 39% of Republicans think she's too liberal while 46% say she's about right. It definitely creates an opening for a teabagger challenge, if she does run again.

CA-Gov: Meg Whitman's trying an interesting damage control approach, having taken harder hits from the California Nurses' Association than anyone else. She's doing a targeted direct mailing to nurses' homes, offering her side of the story, saying "don't take the union boss's word for it."

FL-Gov: I didn't think super-rich Rick Scott really needed any intervention from outside groups, as he's able to pay his own way. But he's getting $1.5 million worth of advertising bought on his behalf by a 527 called "Let's Get to Work." It's yet another anti-Bill McCollum ad, questioning his work as a lobbyist as well as his immigration stance.

IA-Gov: Terry Branstad, who picked little-known state Sen. Kim Reynolds as a running mate yesterday, is now trying to sell her to the state's social conservatives, letting them know that she's really one of them (even if they hadn't heard of her). Branstad, of course, is trying to head off an indie bid by vanquished primary foe Bob Vander Plaats. There are two other Branstad-related articles you might check out today: one is a piece from the Univ. of Minnesota's Smart Politics on the success rates for ex-Governor comebacks (bottom line: it's a pretty high rate (63%), although that's usually for open seats, not against incumbents). And the other is a Politico look at the possible resurgence of the mustache in politics: Branstad, along with John Hoeven and John Kitzhaber, is wearing the 'stache with pride (unfortunately, we can't say the same about Ron Sparks anymore).

IL-Gov: While nobody seems interested in challenging Scott Lee Cohen's 133K signatures (five times as many as needed), Democrats are still weighing other legal methods of dispatching Cohen. While Cohen's situation is unusual and there aren't court cases on point, it's possible the state's sore loser law would prevent him from winning a Dem nomination, resigning it, and subsequently launching his own indie bid for a different office.

SC-Gov: Here's what initially seems like a big surprise, but is symptomatic of the rocky relations between the country-club wing of the state GOP and the Mark Sanford wing (of which Nikki Haley is a member). The state's Chamber of Commerce just endorsed Democratic nominee Vincent Sheheen, suggesting that the GOP's old-boy network in SC may take desperate measures to keep Haley out. The animus, at least on the surface, seems driven by efforts by Sanford (and Haley, in the legislature) to reject federal stimulus funds. Nice to see something of a public admission that, at the end of the day, big-business Republicans like to see government spending on the infrastructure that they, y'know, need in order to successfully do business, as opposed to the teabaggers' empty-headed anti-government nihilism.

TX-Gov: A Texas judge yesterday blocked the Green Party from the ballot in November, which ought to help Dems' chances if the gubernatorial race winds up close. Moreover, the investigation into who was behind efforts to get the Greens onto the ballot in Texas (and conceivably save Rick Perry) has turned up some remarkable evidence: that Perry's former chief of staff, Mike Toomey, personally paid for efforts. Toomey paid a monthly stipend for six months to the organizer of the petition drive. (That drive failed, but a subsequent one bankrolled by mysterious group Take Initiative America later succeeded; Democrats, however, blocked the Greens from qualifying, saying that Take Inititative's $500K operation was an illegal in-kind contribution to the Greens.)

KS-01, KS-04: SurveyUSA has polls of the Republican primaries in two dark-red districts in Kansas. In the 1st, state Sen. Jim Barnett (probably the most moderate figure in the race) is still in the lead, at 23. Someone by the name of Tracey Mann has surged into 2nd place at 20, from 4 in the last poll of this race in February (probably by virtue of consolidating the Tea Party vote), while CfG choice state Sen. Tim Huelskamp is at 18. Rob Wasinger is at 11, Sue Boldra is at 8, and Marck Cobb is at 2. And in the 4th, it's a dead heat between two businessmen: Mike Pompeo is at 39 while Wink Hartman is at 37. (Pompeo is the insider here; he's an RNC committeeman.) State Sen. Jean Schodorf is at 8, with Jim Anderson at 6 and Paji Rutschman at 1. They also look at the Dem primary, where Raj Goyle, despite his fundraising prowess, is only at 42-32 against "retiree" Robert Tillman. Looks like Goyle might need to expend some shoe leather to avoid going the route of Vic Rawl.

PA-11: Rep. Paul Kanjorski is some Beltway-media hot water, after delivering a very convoluted sentence at a financial reform bill hearing on the topic of foreclosure prevention that made it sound like that "minorities" weren't "average, good American people." Extended parsing of the sentence seems to suggest that he was actually taking issue with Republican characterizations of the types of people who wind up in foreclosure. Still, any time that the crusty Kanjorski, facing another tough challenge from Lou Barletta this year, has to spend digging out of his own holes is too much.

TN-08: With the hard-right rabble whipped up into such a froth that anything short of punching Democrats in the nose is seen as RINO collaborationism, this can't bode well for Stephen Fincher's primary hopes. Fincher voted in the May 2010 Democratic primary for local races. Fincher offers the excuse that, with no GOP primary, it was vote in the Dem primary or not vote at all, but that undercuts his own attacks on Ron Kirkland for his occasional Dem-voting past. (wtndem has more in his diary.)

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Roundup of reaction to Kim Reynolds pick.

Vander Plaats is going on the biggest right-wing radio show in central Iowa today at 5 pm central to talk about his future. I don't think he will run for governor as an independent, but who knows? I did some Vander Plaats scenario spinning here.


Good article on Vander Plaats dmd
I never thought there was a chance he'd go independent, but wondered about some of the other possiblities.  

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BVP still hasn't decided
That's what he said on the radio today. I still think he's not going to run.

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I hope you are wrong :)


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IA-Sen
EMILY's List endorsed Roxanne Conlin today. Better late than never. They really don't seem to be about helping candidates raise that "early money" anymore--more like jumping on the bandwagon for candidates who have already shown a lot of strength. But still, should help Conlin's fundraising over the summer.

PPP: voting time
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
KY, FL, or WA. I am anti-KY as I want to see the Paulists FINALLY lose one of the PPP polls.  

That's
very dangerous that they added Kentucky as a choice. As you said Kentucky will win because of the Paulists...

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26

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KY won't win
I'm plan to piss them off and set them up for major disappointment.  

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Here's a tough question
Whose more annoying, the Paulists or the tea-baggers?

I cant even decide, the particular brand of Paulists I knew were the worst kind so Im kind of leaning that way.  At least tea-baggers are easy to figure out, they are just overall kind of dumb people.


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The Paulists
Hands down the Paulists are the most annoying.  While I am not a huge fan of the tea party movement, I can at least understand where they are coming from.  They do not like government.

The Paulists on the other hand have some weird conspiracy theories.  I just want to send them to the nut ward when I hear them ranting about the North American Union, One World Government, Birtherism, 9/11 Trutherism, the Trilateral Commission, etc...

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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And
their fucking annoying on the internet. One article slamming Rand/Ron Paul and their swarming over the comments section.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Their behavior
Their behavior needs to be studied by science because it is clearly not normal.  I really do not like how they act like you are an idiot if you do not believe in their fairy tales.  I am not talking about their wet dreams about the gold standard, but their really insane stuff like their trutherism and birtherim.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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The strangest things
The strangest thing I've noticed in 2007-08 is when an article or blog post that just peripherally mentioned Ron Paul was posted, the comments section would fill up with people raving about him. And those weren't even the ones that showed him in a negative light!

Are there just a bunch of people who google Ron Paul's name all the time and post "hit-and-run" posts?


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Oh I bet, it's what the last two years of my college was
I was in charge of my school's chapter of College Democrats and every political event thing I went that wasn't strictly pro-Obama or pro-McCain, there was one of them there to be obnoxious.  Bringing signs and leaving them around caucus training put on by a non-partisan event, questioning Arianna Huffington about how the Democrats aren't any better than the GOP and that we need a third (libertarian) party.

The worst part was these were the most far left I people I had ever met!  They were so far left they literally came out the other side.  They wanted us to all live in hippy communes and not have a government telling us what to do, instead we'd get to do what we wanted to do and be free and have peace.  It's almost like a libertarian brand of communism.


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College and the Paulists
I had my own experiences with the Paulists while I was a senior in college.  They were the most left wing creatures known to man.  When you consider how out there they are, they do make the Republicans and Democrats look similar.  At least both sides acknowledge we need an active foreign policy, some government, etc...  These nutcases were living in hippy commune land.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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Right on Ryan
I have a twenty-three year old cousin who is a "libertarian" or so he claims and he is more liberal than me. He is not that politically knowledgeable, but when I tried to talk since into him about how he falls nowhere into the orthodox of the Libertarian Party he told me, I kid you not, that's just what you think. Seriously he ultimately voted for Obama (He claims he was the first major party candidate he supported), and holds liberal views on war, guns, abortion, gay marriage, immigration, the environment, almost all domestic policy and foreign policy. I think the fact they are marijuana friendly and anti-establishment brings all of the not so knowledgeable young pot-heads/hippies over to them.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Exactly
Especially the college-aged kids I see calling themselves libertarians are basically dope smokers who like to rail about the evils of an intrusive government, but have given no serious thought about what being a libertarian really is.  My standard response now when I hear someone talk about how they want to basically eliminate government is "So, you're advocating something like Somalia has?"

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There certainly is another segment of Paulists
Which I think were more of the variety I would have gotten at a public univ. where it's social liberal (I almost always want to type socially normal, heh) and who also dont want to pay high taxes after spending how much on college and being thousands in debt.

What made my case even so sad was that Al Franken's main DFL competitor was a prof at our school and who we all know because he teaches the intro class for Justice and Peace Studies.  These people literally forgone getting to caucus and make a difference for everyone's favorite prof in that department so they could argue against what they really want at the GOP caucus.


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They are as loony as Twilight fans.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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I went out with my work for the last movie
And after dinner I was like, you guys, I cant do it, I will not go pay money to see this movie...

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Teabaggers are much worse IMO
I don't think that the Paulists are harmful and are certainly not on the cusp of violence.  

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Lol
Sorry GOPVOTER, Kentucky will probably win, it leads now. Read the comments. Lol, the Paul weirdos are trying to get there Paulists questions included in the poll as well. I am not totally opposed to polling Kentucky but I voted for Washington just to piss them off. You would think Jensen is smarter than to put Kentucky on there, it brings out all of the freaks.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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There should be more KY polling
So I don't really care if the reason it wins is Paulists.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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One thing RedState is correct about, IMO,
is their description of such as "Paultards"

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the retarded part is
They all supported Rand.  

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WA
We need another poll that isn't Rasmussen or taken over several weeks. I suspect it will show something like a five point Murray lead.

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Kanjo
The man didn't phrase his statement well. There's no doubt about that. But to hear the GOP try to tar him by saying he was implying minorities are not hardworking or average is laughable. It's obvious from reading the full remarks that he was criticizing Republican rhetoric that suggested minorities are the largest beneficiaries of public assistance.

Do they realize the guy they've nominated to run against him crafted policies that discriminated against non-English speakers and Hispanics?  


tons of Republicans
have made comments implying that Republicans win among "real Americans (white males) while Democrats depend on non-normal people (women, ethnics). So hypocritical for them to jump on this one.

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I'm guessing...
they aren't the first people in politics to be hypocritical.  

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PA-11
PA-11, along with PA-7, are the two most vulnerable seats for the Democrats in Pennsylvania.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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I was
surprised that Charlie Cook only recently shifted the race to a tossup. If it wasn't for Obama in 2008, Kanjorski would of been a goner.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Definitely...
Kanjorski is a tired candidate.  Barletta winning will have implications for redistricting to say the least.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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If Barletta wins
Chris Carney and Barletta will basically switch districts for 2012.

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Yeah, I would imagine so
One bad Republican year or even a neutral year and Barletta would be gone in a district like the current PA-11.

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Does anybody know what the PA Republican
establishment thinks of Barletta? My idea would be that if the redistricting was split between the Dems and Reps they would throw Barletta to the wolves if they didn't like him. I just got the idea b/c it seems like he has trouble raising funds.  

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Redistricting
I have been tweaking a pro-Republican and a pro-Democratic map for awhile now and I think its very plausible the Republicans would seek to draw as much of the Democratic areas in northeastern Pennsylvania, the Lehigh Valley and Reading area into one district.  It would be a Democratic district, but it would definitely produce two solid Republican districts in exchange.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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PA-15 would be the other very GOP district?


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As discussed before, Rasmussen is so erratic
that he'll occasionally find results far too favorable to the Democrats based on events that only ultra-political junkies lend any weight.  Take the Creigh Deeds poll he showed right after the Democrat Party primary.  It seems that his NC poll right after the primary the other night was another example of this phenomena.

I really don't think Obama jumped from 41% approval to 48% approval and then back to 45% approval in the span of a week.


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I don't know any Democrat (sic) Party...
Unless you mean the Democratic Party and just made a typo.

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GOP Voters Ovesampled
SUSA's poll has 39% Dems, 38 % Repugs.

By registration, Democrats outnumber Republicans 45% - 32% in North Carolina.

http://www.sboe.state.nc.us/


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Richard Burr, the icon of young people
57-29 among 18-34 year olds.  Fantasy land.

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Ah yes
Obama wins 18-29 voters 74-26 (per CNN exit poll), but apparently they all hate him now, and with 30-34 year olds, are giving Burr a 28 point margin.

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But registration doesn't matter, right?
This is polling only likely voters?

On the other hand, Burr's lead among young people does seem ridiculous.  


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SurveyUSA is pretty outlier-y itself
since they don't weight for party ID their results can tend to jump around for a bit. In their polling of the 2009 King County Executive race their earlier polls seemed to underestimate Dow Constantine, who ultimately ended up winning. In NC specifically, they released a poll shortly after the GOP convention showing McCain up 20 in NC. 20! Even for a convention bounce that's ridiculous.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Apparently
Meg Whitman used something off the Fail Blog in an video attacking Jerry Brown:

http://failblog.org/2010/06/25...

And their not happy about it either:

We demand a written apology from the Whitman campaign and the removal of the video.

Sincerely,

Ben Huh, Founder of the Cheezburger Network

P.S. Jerry Brown, you better not be thinking of using this image or post in your political ad either.



19, Male, Independent, CA-12

I know what she did
I think I do anyway. They put the pic of Brown into the fail submitter, added a FAIL tag, and then used that shot in the ad, without submitting it. Since they never submitted it, the Cheezburger network does not own the pic.  

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And a teabagger troll
whined about FAILBlog's "liberalism", saying that had Jerry Brown done this, they'd have given him a free pass.

Troll FAIL

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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)


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Big news, perhaps you could add it to the digest
But yesterday Rasmussen released a poll showing Republican NC Sen. Richard Burr leading his Democratic opponent Elaine Marshall by only 1 point, 44%-43%. This is really good considering the Republican-leaning LV screen in Rasmussen's polls. Link: http://www.rasmussenreports.co...

Disclosure: I have volunteered for the Marshall campaign.


Sorry for my grammatical incorrectness
I didn't mean to start that sentence with "but", I had initially had something else in the subject line that I changed and forgot to adjust the next part of the sentence.

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IDK
It's really not that big of news. He does it all of the time, and he will have Burr up double digits two weeks from now. It's how he rolls. I will never believe a Ras poll, even if it shows us doing well.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Agree, Ras is worthless. The only thing it's good for is...
...as a mind-teaser to dissect the patterns of polling results and figure out what in the methodology causes them.

The "post-news event bounce" is one phenomenon I've noticed that's badly exaggerated by Rasmussen.  Other pollsters don't show the same dramatic movements after short-term events such as primary wins or bad news hits.

I at least still look at Rasmussen out of curiosity, and treat them seriously if another pollster corroborates their results, at least in the same general ballpark.  But saying I don't trust Rasmussen unless another pollster corroborates is really the same as saying I don't trust Rasmussen, period.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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They save Rasmussen for their
"Rasmussen Reports, You Decide" that seems to come most Sunday evenings.

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So...
I've been arguing with someone who's not exactly a right-winger, but who thinks Obama is a socialist, who proclaimed:

No Republican incumbent except Cao is going to lose. Bank on it.

Though it's slim pickings, I'm thinking Djou in Hawaii may be in a bit of trouble too.


I
could see Burr losing. I still think it is lean R, but it could happen.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I think the money disparity is our doom in NC-Sen, and it's frustrating......
I really do think we could win this with enough money even in this bad year.  And even with the disadvantage I think if Marshall runs a competent campaign with enough money to get her message out, she would lose narrowly.

But Burr has $5.1 million banked, and Marshall presumably is starting from scratch.  That's rough.

If she gets buried on the air and loses by 5 or so, that will go down as a lost opportunity.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Burr's $5 million will come in handy
as he introduces himself to voters. Despite being elected to the House in 1994 and the Senate in 2004, many Tar Heel voters couldn't pick Burr out of a lineup.

Marshall has a fight on her hands and has a chance to win. Despite winning 4 statewide races since '96, she can run as an outsider vs Burr.


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Has anyone polled CA-03 yet?
I know it is a fairly Republican district, but Obama won it and Lundgren did not do all that well in 2008, plus Ami Bera has raised a lot of money and seems like a strong challenger.  

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Not to my knowledge


19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Oh, I'm sure both candidates have polled it multiple times, and...
...they're not talkin'!

This is why it's a bit dubious to read too much into a candidate releasing or not releasing internals.  Really, the smart move is almost always to keep private polling private, unless there is a specific reason to release numbers.  And merely doing well is not a reason to release numbers, nor is doing poorly a reason in itself not to release.

That said, I recall everyone on SSP made a lot of it, correctly IMO and as it turned out, that Democrats were releasing good internals all the time, and Republicans keeping theirs secret.  So I don't dismiss that the same thing in reverse is happening now.  But I don't know that it tells us anything we don't know, rather it's just one more factoid that reveals we're going to lose a whole bunch of House seats.  And in the individual Dem-held seats where GOPers are releasing their strong internals, the reality is case-by-case what's released is not always fully honest (e.g., you virtually never know what turnout model is assumed, or whether the numbers released are post-message testing with much less favorable initial horse race question results).

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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LOL well that's a bold statement
How many Dem incumbents lost in 2008?  That was a good cycle for Dems.  This is a bad cycle.

Ask this other guy how many open seats Dems will win...to me that's a far better measure.  It will still skew Repub obviously but cmon.  The current Repub makeup of the House is pretty much their firewall...it cant get much worse for them.

Honestly, since historically 95% (or something like that) of incumbents get re-elected, we really aren't ever that bold predicting incumbent victories.  Kind of like picking North Korea to NOT make the knockout round of the world cup...not very bold :-)

Also, I think Cao has a better shot than Djou.  The main problem in the Djou election is resolved (the split Dem ticket).  Plus Cao has been decent and not silent or "apologist" in the BP debacle.  As for Cao, I could see all Louisianans being mad who's currently in charge nationally (Dems) and give Cao another term.  

Not likely but certainly more probable than Djou I think.


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Are blacks going to be mad at Dems and vote GOP?
You really think that will happen?

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The odds of Djou winning re-election are definitely greater than Cao's.
As long as black voters actually show up this time, Cao doesn't really have a chance of winning. Even with the perfect storm (scandal-plagued incumbent in a low-turnout election a month after the Democrats cleaned up, leading to complacency) he only won by a couple thousand votes, and didn't capture a majority of the vote. Djou will have a hard time trying to win a full term, but he doesn't face the same kind of intensely-partisan electorate (again, as long as they show up) that Cao does.

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Regarding LA-02, it wasnt the case in 2006
In 2006 after Democrats won the House and Senate, they went on to win TX-23 in a runoff a month later.  

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There were some very key differences between 2006 and 2008
After 2006 Bush was still President and the Iraq War was still raging.  Winning Congress was all well and good, but I remember the anger at the state of the country did not dissipate on our side after the election.  In 2008 we felt much more satisfied.

As someone who lived in LA-2 during the 2008 election I can tell you Johnny Longtorso has it right when he describes the unique set of circumstances leading to Cao's win.  I'll add a few others: there was a general sense of confusion among voters before this race since it was held in December.  Many people assumed Jefferson had been reelected in November, when in fact that was the Democratic run-off (the fact Louisiana had just changed it's electoral system for Congressional races likely made things even worse). Also very few thought Cao could win, adding to some extra complacency.  Also, some people used the argument that Jefferson ensured black Louisianans would have representation: this likely was a less effective argument following Obama's win.  Also probably quite a few Democrats voted for Cao: I was one of them.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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Bush was still President in 2008
and was for another three months after.  This sense of "satisfaction" is what has been killing Democrats for the last year and a half.  There is little that can be done without solid controlof Congress.

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We weren't so satisfied with ourselves
to make us lose NY-20, NY-23, or PA-12.

I personally dont buy that much into to the drop-off in energy for the Democrats.  It'll hurt us, yeah, but I dont think it is anything to talk about.  In the scope of energy possibly costing us 5 seats vs other things costing us the other 35, I really dont think it's worth worrying about.

Hell, has it ever been considered that we are comparing our level of energy and excitement to 2008 and 2008 is also the same year that these measures may have been the highest in recorded history?  (I dont have numbers, but it seems extremely likely that 2008 ranks at/near the top.  Black man running to succeed, ::sigh::, Bush, record AA turn-out, colleges being organized like never before; it was an exciting time.)


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The energy was quite high in 2006
If you look at New Jersey in 2009, which is one race I believe that we never should have lost, the energy was a huge problem.  I know Corzine's approvals were low, but Brendan Byrne's were even lower in 1977 and he came back to win that race huge.  We lost that race because our voters didnt turn out.  

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True
it was a miracle and a testimate to the fact Corzine wildly outspent Christie he was able to keep the race close at all.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Djou voted against the DISCLOSE act
I think he's close to gone, as the only way for him to win was going to be a quasi-Dem on all the major bills.

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I wonder
if the DISCLOSE act is going to get through the senate. Snowe didn't like the Supreme Court's ruling on Citizens United, but I have a feeling that when push comes to shove she won't vote for cloture just like John McCain who sold himself out on the things he used to hold dear in order to win reelection.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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The DISCLOSE act is uber partisan
and nothing like BCRA. The law has carve outs for large interests and labor unions, so I don't think it will be that hard to explain away. Also, I think the Dems made a PR mistake by having Van Hollen and Schumer being the chief sponsors of the bill.
I think the Financial Reform package will be a more telling sign of whether Djou will be competitive in the Fall.  

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None of the carve-outs would have happened
if there hadn't first been insistence on a huge carve-out for the NRA, which is hardly a partisan Democratic organization. Perhaps you and I agree that it sucks that there are ANY carve-outs.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Not to
play devil's advocate, but the blue dogs demanded the NRA be protected from the overreaching hand of big government in the DISCLOSE act. Anyway I'm a pragmatist, the DISCLOSE act is better than nothing.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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I don't know
I like the idea of the president of an organization having to say, "I am from blank and this is my org's ad" but some of the disclosure for smaller groups, from what I have read and heard, are a bit onerous. Opponents of the DISCLOSE act have said that groups that didn't get exemptions would have a hard or more expensive time putting together 15 second ads, which, if true, would also make me hesitant to support the bill. I don't mind the idea of forcing larger groups to disclose information. However, unless it is unilaterally applied to all groups, I feel the bill does not move US elections toward being more open and transparent.  

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Personally I would have required disclosure
only for for-profit corporations and any of their dummy corporations, as well as groups who receive money from for-profit corporations.

I don't think is needed for issue advocacy groups.


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Cao and Castle voted for it
Djou is in a more Democratic district than Castle.  I think the Dems can hammer him on this issue, and saying it was a partisan bill won't work in a heavily Dem area.

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If the Dems try to hammer him on this
for more than a news cycle or two, I think it is not a good strategy. Maybe try to make it part of greater narrative of him being against Obama's agenda, this is one district where that will likely be held against the Republican in the Fall. Overall though I think this vote isn't a deal breaker compared to a no vote on something like financial reform.  

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You might be right
if Djou votes for the rest of Obama's agenda.  But I suspect that Djou's vote is a harbinger for more votes against Obama's agenda.  

This guy after all is a conservative who regularly posted on RedState with attacks on the President.


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Hopefully
we can reclaim this seat in November. That means no screw ups down in Hawaii this time.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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Just like the GOP says the Dems are being anti-democratic and anti-free speech
The Dems could and should be saying the same thing back.  Not hard to put that in an ad and run it and make him look bad.  Not to mention if the Dems are ones to say it first, the GOP will look stupid by saying, nuh uh you are!

But the Dems wont do any of that......


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Gerlach will lose
I think this is finally his year.
The Republican strategy is be extremely polarizing in order to defeat Democrats in Republican-leaning territory. PA-06 is Democratic territory and the Republican strategy will ensure Gerlach fewer crossover votes than he's used to.
Also, whatever advantage Republicans are supposed to have in this year, it's not enough to make PA-6 a Republican district.

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

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Gerlach
Claiming PA-6 is Democratic territory is not a good argument.  There are Democratic pockets clearly and it goes Democratic in national elections, but the majority of its state reps and state senators are Republicans.

Gerlach is a political survivor of the first class.  He beat a sitting Democrat in 1990 by less than 100 votes.  1990 was a terrible year for Pennsylvania Republicans too.  Then he won an open State Senate seat against a well funded Democrat.

If he did not lose in the 2006 Pennsylvania Republican implosion, he will lose now.  Dent is probably more vulnerable.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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I think you mean
not lose now.  

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Correct
I was a tad sleep deprived when I made the post.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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So Gerlach loses
in a Republican heavy year even though he survived the uber Dem waves of 2006 and 2008? I will believe it if it happens.  

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In 2008
He won by only 4 points, after the Dems only managed a 'Some  Dude' nobody, and after all national prognosticators had written it off as basically safe. In 2004/2006, I'd blame the ineptness of our candidate of Lois Murphy, who didn't have much appeal to her, and (in)famously had the ad where she pointed to her crouch.

Now this time around, we don't have the DCCC-backed candidate; we don't know if he'll end up being a Zack Space (little-known who wins big) or an Alice Kryzan (insurgent who goes.. nowhere).

Either way, other than the double-flukes in Cao/Djou, I'd put Gerlach as (one of) the GOP's most endangered incumbent.


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As KainIIC says
There's a huge candidate strength difference this time. With that said, it certainly is a much tougher year this time. I would say that the race is in the tossup to tilt Republican area. Gerlach certainly could be defeated, but it will take some strong efforts by our candidate. Either way, the seat will eventually be in Democratic control for sure.

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Candidate strength not so different IMO. Gerlach loses ONLY IF...
...he gets caught sleeping.  He did just that in 2008, seeing a sacrificial lamb of a Democratic opponent and blowing him off despite the strongly Democratic year.  And the complacency just about bit his ass.

Problem is, I suspect Gerlach will learn from his near-loss to Roggio and will campaign hard this time in spite of the pro-Republican environment.

Regarding candidate strength, I'm Indian-American myself and badly want to see an Indian-American Democrat elected to Congress, but Trivedi on paper doesn't seem that strong.  He raised money pretty well and did well winning a tough primary, and I give him real credit for that.  But he's never run for anything in his life before this try, the general election is night-and-day different from the primary, and rookie candidates' performance is unpredictable.  I also can't help but feel a bit jaded by Ashwin Madia's epic fail in MN-03 in 2008, even though I should know better than anyone it's very unfair to make that comparison.  But a part of me can't help but wonder if the "funny name" costs votes.

All this doesn't even consider how tough a year this is for us!  I agree with the comment that it's unlikely a win here happens without our having a shockingly great night nationally.  There are always "outlier" results, but this is unlikely to be one.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Agreed that the Madia-Trivedi comparison is unfair
if nothing else because Trivedi proved himself in a primary, not some stupid convention.

But it's an uphill battle. The 2009 Supreme Court race seemed to suggest a backslide to the Republicans in the Philly suburbs, and under the likely scenario of a sizable Corbett win statewide, he probably wins this district too (while it's slightly more Democratic than the state as a whole now, Onorato will probably underperform here since his base is in Pittsburgh). If Trivedi had run in 2008 with Obama coattails I could see him winning, but right now he is clearly the underdog.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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I'm skeptical that the "funny name" matters
in upscale suburban areas.  After all, names don't get more "weird" than Barack Obama.  And if I didn't know any better, I would have guessed that Trivedi was an Italian name, not one of Indian ancestry.  (And I probably wouldn't have guessed Madia was Indian origin either)

 


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Obama overcame it because his name became its own political brand......
Obama branded himself so as to immunize himself.  The "Barack Obama" brand was years in the making.

Ordinarily, voters won't recognize a challenger's name in a downballot race and will pause at an "ethnic" name.

Maybe PA-06 has a more culturally sophisticated electorate and won't flinch, but I wonder and worry just the same.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Jindal is Indian
DCCylone, Jindal isnt a good enough representation for the Indian American community? Ha, just kidding.
I too am Indian American, and I can testify that I-A candidates can raise a lot of money from Indians outside their district/state because of that strong sense of community pride. Many Indian-Americans also happen to be wealthy. Therefore, I think Trivdei will post solid fundraising numbers for partly that reason.
Unfortunately, its a real uphill climb for PA-6 so I'm not holding my breath. And I agree about Madia; he seemed like such a good candidate, so that loss was a hit.  

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I can testify to the same and helped I-A candidates who did just that in 1994......
I was active in all 3 Indian-American Democratic Congressional campaigns in 1994.  Ram Uppuluri in particular became a good friend.  I know quite well how deep a fundraising well there is nationally, and it's only that much deeper now, 16 years later.

That said, it will take an extraordinarily skilled campaign for Trivedi to make it close, and a rookie candidate is less likely than most to run that great a campaign.  And to actually win, he can't unless Gerlach screws up, which again means he takes victory for granted and just doesn't do enough and doesn't realize until too late that he's in trouble.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Gerlach would have lost in 2008
with any decent competition.  But otherwise your point holds.  

If Gerlach goes down, the Dems probably had a pretty damn good night.


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The 'stache caucus
No mention of Travis Childers? Epic fail!

NV Senate Sharrontology
   My sources tell me there is some strife in the leadership of the Sharrontology movement.  There seems to be two bones of contention.  The first is over who to give interviews with, if anyone, other than conservative types who can be counted on the give her a pass regardless of what she says.  But what to do about pesky questions from sharper minds?  Outside campaign workers are more worried than the local stalwarts.  And Scientology is an open sore even with members of her base.  They don't know what to do other than to give some very unsatisfactory answers to her connection with this paramilitary cult.  
  Stresses within a campaign happens at all levels; it is something that cannot be avoided.  But the situation here is worse than one would expect in a senate race; alas, the head of Sharrontology does not like her opinions scouted.  In the best tradition of absolute despots she is as mule headed as anyone can be.  
  Not all conservatives like her either, they dislike the way that she can take a good position, at least to them a good position, and turn it into a muddy porridge that nobody would even care to understand.
  If Sharron Angle did get elected I wouldn't worry too much about it, she would last about as long as Palin did as governor before she would get herself involved in some foolishness or knavery that would cost her the senate office.  She is in a way, a reflection of Palin, but the mirror is the kind you would find in a side show.  Enough for now, I need my flapjacks.  

Rollo "Rob" Weems

Cool, I didn't know you heard stuff in the NV-Sen race.
Do you think Sharron Angle will screw up her chances the way Sue Lowden did?

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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She will screw up but. . .
   Sharron Angle has screwed up enough to sink most candidates already but remember, she has populist aspirations.  In other words she is a dolt, and she is proud of being a dolt.  She might even say she comes from a long line of dolts.
  Remember her base.  These are people who are creationists and denyers. So they are not impressed with science or eggheads or experts of any stripe.  They think that so long as you have the right values, usually faith based certainties, that is all you need.  Well, not all you need, a filled gun cabinet and lots of ammo would help too.
  The only way a cretin like Sharron Angle will get into office is if the independents turn against Harry Reid to the extent that they would rather have "anyone" rather than him.
  Will she screw up?  Of course, it is her nature.  There is no bit of crass insanity or stupidity gone to seed that she is not capable of.  But will it cost her the election?  That is the question.  Now if we can only get her to shout "drill baby, drill" a few times in Clark Co.  That would help a lot, -but only if it is in Clark Co., elsewhere the voters, all 11 or 12 of them, might join in with her.  
 The fun is only starting.  

Rollo "Rob" Weems

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Her base is far from sufficient
to win an election in Nevada.  But I think this race will come down to whether the Democrats $50 million effort to get out first-time voters, i.e. "Obama Democrats" is success.  If the electorate looks like 2002 or 2004, Angle has a great chance to win, IMO.  

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SC-Gov
I'm a little concerned about the endorsement.  Haley could latch on that endorsement and paint Sheheen as the good-ol'-boy network's candidate.

Its a plus
for Sheheen in my opinion. And it shows how much some parts of the GOP down in South Carolina hate the Sanford wing of the party (where Nikki Haley comes from).

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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