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SSP Daily Digest: 6/21 (Afternoon Edition)

by: Crisitunity

Mon Jun 21, 2010 at 5:50 PM EDT


CT-Sen: You might recall that late last week Peter Schiff was looking unlikely to qualify for the ballot, not having enough signatures. Well, now it looks like he will qualify; I'm not sure whether the outcome was ever in doubt or he was gaming expectations. At any rate, he managed to get the signatures of 2% of all registered Republicans in the state, and the SoS announced his certification today. Also in the Nutmeg State, Joe Lieberman, who'd floated the idea of a Linda McMahon endorsement, now sounds like he'll stay out of the Senate race entirely... given the choice between supporting arch-foe Richard Blumenthal or McMahon (who, given her unlikeliness of winning, isn't a good use of political capital).

IL-Sen: The optics on this just aren't good for Mark Kirk: after an appearance at the Metropolitan Planning Council, Kirk literally ran out the door instead of taking questions from the media (who probably want to know about his military and teaching claims) and peeled out in his SUV. Alexi Giannoulias was also present; in a sign of how the worm has turned, instead of running out the door (as he probably would have several months ago) he lingered comfortably. Bad news on the cat fud front, though: Mike Niecestro, the rich guy who came out of nowhere last week to announce that he had 25,000 signatures and $1 million for an independent Senate bid to Kirk's right, has had to back down. Turns out he didn't have enough signatures after all. However, here's some limited good news: Niecestro says he's backing somebody by the name of Randy Stufflebeam, who'll be running under the Constitution Party banner. Stufflebeam doesn't seem to have Niecestro's money, but he at least seems to have enough signatures to qualify. (Also on the filings front, pawnbroker-turned-LG-nominee-turned-laughingstock Scott Lee Cohen brought in 130K signatures for his independent IL-Gov bid, five times as many as he needs.)

AL-Gov: The recount is over in Alabama, and as expected, Tim James' $200K was very badly spent. The official tally: he now finished down by more than 200 votes, instead of the 167 he trailed by on Election Night. This means that Robert Bentley has clinched the slot in the GOP runoff against Bradley Byrne.

IA-Gov: In what's not a surprise, Terry Branstad has been on bended knee trying to get the backing of GOP primary rival Bob Vander Plaats, but it's not going well. Vander Plaats reportedly requested the Lt. Governor spot, which Branstad isn't going to do. However, this is a surprise to me: apparently Iowa doesn't have a sore loser law, because now there's talk of this leading to an independent run by Vander Plaats, which he's now "seriously considering." A kamikaze run by Vander Plaats that peels off 10% might actually give Chet Culver a route to staying in office.

MI-Gov: Another EPIC-MRA poll of the Michigan governor's race is out, this time only of the two primaries. On the Dem side, Andy Dillon has a 34-24 lead over Virg Bernero (leaving 42% undecided). On the GOP side, here's a new development: Mike Cox is actually pulling into the lead, at 26. He leads Peter Hoekstra at 24, Rick Snyder at 20, Mike Bouchard at 16, and Tom George at 2, with 12 undecided. Is this just a blip, or is Cox really gaining some ground, having gotten some big conservative endorsements (Michigan Right to Life, the DeVos family) lately? Chances are it's for real, now that there's another round of attack ads out targeting Cox for allegedly helping cover up a party-out-of-bounds at then-Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's mansion. (The radio ad is paid for by the mysterious Foundation for a Secure and Prosperous America, which the Cox camp seems to think is linked to Snyder.)

NV-Gov: The Hatch Act is an obscure little piece of legislation, although it's at the core of what the GOP thinks is illegal about the PA-Sen/Co-Sen "jobsgate." Well, it might just bite the Republicans in the butt, too: there are increasing questions over whether Brian Sandoval, who stepped down from the federal district court in order to run for Governor, engaged in politicking with still on the bench. The RGA's Haley Barbour and Nick Ayers reportedly heavily recruited Sandoval into the race; considering how little time passed between his resignation and his entry into the race, some of that recruiting must have happened while son the bench.

SC-Gov: Mitt Romney really, really wants to see Nikki Haley as Governor (probably because he'd like to have someone in charge of S. Carolina in 2012 who owes him a favor or three); he just gave $42K to Haley, who faces a GOP runoff tomorrow. (He was able to give that much, despite contribution limits, by harnessing six different PACs.) There have also been some eyebrows raised over a $2,000 consulting fee paid to Haley in 2008 by a construction firm, revealed when she disclosed her tax returns; it has a quid pro quo-ish whiff to it (the firm's head said it was to pay for business leads and "help with things"), but isn't likely to put a dent in the outcome of tomorrow's runoff at this point.

CO-04: Cory Gardner's decision to bail on a fundraiser with unpalatable Iowa Rep. Steve King may hurt him more than if he'd actually gone through with it. King is still harping on Gardner's lack of fortitude. King was joined on a conservative radio talk show in Colorado last Friday by ex-Rep. Tom Tancredo, who took turns tag-team insulting Gardner for an hour.

ID-01: I don't know how much weight to give this, but Rep. Mike Simpson (from the 2nd) is publicly saying it's possible that Rep. Walt Minnick could play a role in voting in a different speaker than Nancy Pelosi, if the Dem majority is small enough after 2010 and whatever Blue Dogs are left hold the vote in the balance. Minnick, for his part, shrugged it off, although without a categorical denial, saying it's "premature." In a weird way, though, Simpson might be doing Minnick a favor here. Already a beneficiary of endorsement as the Tea Party Express's token Democrat, this gives Minnick further cover to keep Dem leadership at arm's length in the runup to November.

NC-08: "I'd do everything the crazy guy would do; I just wouldn't do it in a crazy way," seems to be the argument here, which may not be the best electability argument. But that's Harold Johnson's way of framing tomorrow's GOP runoff in the 8th, saying that he'd vote the "basically the same way" as Tim D'Annunzio.

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Illinois
Stufflebeam can't be the thorn that Niecestro could've been unless Niecestro completely bankrolls his campaign. But he does have some cred among the looney right, and Kirk is already running scared of those people, so maybe it'll do just enough damage.

And at this point, "just enough" probably isn't much at all. Kirk's got a One-word Negative now, which is one of the most painful things you can have in politics. I actually read the Tribune this morning (because of the Blackhawks posters, but still...) and even his supporters among the LTEs had to be like, "Yes, he was slimey about his experience, but..."

OTOH, Cohen getting into the GOV race probably means a Republican pick up. Pity Pat Quinn, I really think he was just doing what he thought was best with an absolutely terrible situation.


Cohen getting that many signatures worries me
I could see him netting 2-3% come November, which might prove fatal in a Brady/Quinn dead heat.

Oh, and Lieberman's decision speaks volumes about just how uphill Linda McMahon's battle will be. I could see myself moving CT-Sen to "Safe Dem" in my next projections.

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Randy Stuffllebeam?!
I didn't think there could be more than one Randy Stufflebeam.  I looked up his campaign website.  Sure enough, this is the guy I went to junior high and high school with.  Running for governor?!  I just sat here scratching my head in disbelief.  And then I read the two words that helped it all make sense: "looney right".  Of course, back in the day we called it stupidity.  I guess that just like misery, stupidity loves company.  And I guess they've decided to call it the Constitution Party to make it sound respectable.  Unbelievable.  If I was not so stunned, I would be scared - very scared!  Did I say that I am stunned?

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Is this just politics as usual
and, therefore, something that will go away, or is it potentially very bad and something that could sour public attitudes toward Rahm Emanuel and either make him step down or/and rub off onto the White House and possibly Congressional Democrats?

Rahm Traded Favors with Blago: Report

Excerpt:


President Barack Obama's chief of staff, then a congressman in Illinois, apparently attempted to trade favors with embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich while he was in office, according to newly disclosed e-mails obtained by The Associated Press.

Emanuel agreed to sign a letter to the Chicago Tribune supporting Blagojevich in the face of a scathing editorial by the newspaper that ridiculed the governor for self-promotion. Within hours, Emanuel's own staff asked for a favor of its own: The release of a delayed $2 million grant to a school in his district.

The 2006 discussion occured with Blagojevich's top aide, Deputy Gov. Bradley Tusk, and doesn't appear to cross legal lines;  Emanuel couldn't speed up the distribution of the funds. But it offers a peek at ties between two high-profile Illinois politicians - one now the president's right-hand man, the other facing years in prison if convicted of political corruption.

My reaction is that it's smelly, but I don't know how people in Illinois will react to it. It doesn't seem directly relevant to any current campaign anywhere in the country, but you know Republicans will use ANYTHING to make the President, his Administration, and the Democrats look bad. And this is legitimate to criticize as an effective, though tacit quid pro quo.

Here's an exchange (excerpted, and of course without attribution) between a conservative Republican friend of mine and a friend of his on Facebook:

This is only the stuff we know about. Wonder how much more stuff is building in the Chicago to Washington pipeline.

and who is going to prosecute? Holder? Which is why elections are important. Senate hearings and special prosecutors are called for.

Nothing will be done, unless a complete change in leadership, congress , etc. Yet the Republicans are pussies.

Amazing! I'm constantly reading on DailyKos - and saying - that the Democrats are - well, spineless or/and in some cases, paid agents of big business. Here are two folks saying the Republicans are pussies!

But the point is, whatever dirt comes out from Democrats will be used - legitimately or not - by Republicans to paint the whole party as corrupt. Running on the fact that the Bush Administration and Congressional Republicans actually let businesses write legislation and regulations that affected them would probably not blunt Republican attacks based on actually documented instances of Democratic wrongdoing or sleaziness because "they all suck" cancels things out, at best, and redounds to the detriment of the party in power, at worst.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


Thanks for the quotes, and it's a lesson about echo chamber politics......
Like you said, that exchange could've been on DailyKos, simply with different villains and different alleged wrongdoings.

It's easy for all of us to see how deep down the rabbit hold the wingnuts go on something like this.  And it's nothing average voters want investigated by political partisans absent evidence of real wrongdoing.

But so many on the left fail to see how equally politically foolish so many of their investigative and prosecutorial demands are.  I understand in some cases there might be colorable hypertechnical legal arguments......I'm a government lawyer myself so I'm used to helping develop those!  But that doesn't mean it's a smart use of government resources or political capital to follow up and act.  It almost always never is.

You'd think political partisans learned something from the Clinton impeachment, but nope.  The American people don't want politicians probed and prosecuted for every imagined wrong a partisan opponent conceives.  If there's real smoke instead of the imagined variety, like with Ensign, then it's different and the public supports acting on it.  But not otherwise.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Don't
worry Republicans, if you ever capture the house, Darell Issa will launch a full scale witch hunt against the White House. Who knows, he may even find that tape showing President Obama with the cheerleader in the Chicago motel room.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
Your last paragraph sums the one thing that keeps my faith
in the American electorate; we can smell bullshit from a mile away.  However, when it comes to understanding policy...  ::sigh::

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Pretty good front page SF chronicle article
for Fiorina and Palin.  I'm surprised that the Chronicle would print it.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...

Carly and Palin come off a lot better in this story than Boxer when you just look at the surrogates that the Chronicle turned to to represent both sides.  One side is a successful business executive making a positive case for Palin and fiorina and boxer's side are political operatives just slamming palin and fiorina.

I suppose Boxer isn't particularly friendly with the California media.


For Fiorina to win, she needs to run AWAY from Palin, Bachmann, and the pro-life label
That's not to say Boxer isn't vulnerable or that Fiorina won't keep things competitive. But, even if Fiorina's backers in that article are "real folks," they're still pro-lifers who make up a minority of the state's voters.

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That's
hardly her problem. Her problem is her dismal performance at HP. Palin, Bachmann, being pro-life, allowing people on the no-fly list to carry guns is small pie compared to HP. I still don't know why Cornyn believes Carly was the strongest candidate they could put up down her in California. Sure Tom Campbell is a never ending loser but this year he would of stood a good chance of beating Boxer.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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It's all about money, that's why they like Fiorina and Whitman......
California is ungodly expensive anyway, and it's an extraodrinarily tough state for Republicans.  So the national party figured these two richies might be able to just buy votes with a smothering of ads.

It worked in the primary.  They were both in deep trouble less than a month out, truly flailing, and all it took was saturation-level TV ads in every media market.

And honestly, their money alone will keep the general somewhat close in both cases.  Against Brown, that he's somewhat of a flaky guy will also help, and I won't be surprised if he loses.  Boxer will win, perhaps comfortably, but I wouldn't be surprised if she wins by no more than 5 points.  I don't think it will be any closer than that, as California has become more liberal since 1994 when Huffington gave Feinstein such a scare in what like now was an anti-Democratic year.  Boxer always has been considerably less popular than Feinstein, but the state's move left since then offsets that.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Um....what?
Um...I guess this is a pro-Fiorina article if you only read the first few paragraphs. Perhaps we read things differently, but this article had some very sharp, very relevant points about Fiorina. Like, you know, how wanting the government to control women's bodies and make their decisions for them is fundamentally un-feminist....

But my favorite line was this: "Among California swing voters, BP, Goldman Sachs and Dick Cheney are all more popular than Sarah Palin."

So good luck with that Palin-Fiorina-Bachmann angle, FAILorina.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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Yeah, after reading this article
I knew Boxer was in trouble. She's losing the conservative vote! How can a Democrat win in CA without winning conservatives?

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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Looks much better for Boxer
Boxer comes off as someone who is fighting for jobs, climate change, and other major issues for women (and everyone), while Fiorina comes off as a pro-life, conservative value crusader aligned with Palin and Bachmann.  

[ Parent ]
climate change legislation* n/t


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I would vote for a stump over Fiorina
Outside of David Vitter, there is no GOP Senate candidate this year that I hate more.  

Boxer will beat her by double digits.


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CO-04: King and Tancredo don't matter, Gardner's playing it correctly......
King and Tancredo are nutbags, everyone knows that.  Tancredo is worse than Musgrave was, and remember Musgrave survived 2006 only because of a 3rd candidate, and she got crushed in 2008.  Gardner I'm sure realizes, thus he doesn't want to be associated with the lunatic fringe.  He just wants their votes, and he'll get 'em, they won't stay home.  But he can't afford to piss off the broad middle, and if anything he's helped a little by being on Tancredo's and King's bad side.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

"who took turns tag-team insulting Gardner for an hour. "
Classy.  Real classy.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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A pretty scary LA Times article on Brown/Whitman and their forms of crisis control
They note how Whitman managed to kill the eBay shoving story within 36 hours, while Brown is STILL yapping on about his Goebbels comment.

http://www.latimes.com/news/lo...

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Brown's yapping is a good thing
Nobody gives a shit about the Goebbels comment, while Meg is literally hiding.

[ Parent ]
Larger Issue
Brown has to learn to get out of his own way. If it's two more months of Governor Moonbeam, Whitman will be able to win.

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Run BVP, run!
I would love to see BVP go indy and help re-elect Chet Culver.  I know this isn't the site to say this on, but I do wish all states would get rid of sore loser laws, it would make elections more exciting in some cases.  

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23, Democrat, IA-2


Sore loser laws are designed to keep this stuff from happening.
But now that you mention it could make the drama more fun...

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Get serious
BVP is not going to run as an indepedent. The Iowa Independent is a liberal paper and not a good source. We get way too excited about these cat fud rumours, even when there's nothing to back them up. Look at the story. BVP doesn't even suggest this is a possibility, nor does anyone in the know.

And now it's on the front page of Kos. jeez. desmoinesdem, if you're out there, what's your take?


[ Parent ]
I know
It's all fun though.  

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23, Democrat, IA-2


[ Parent ]
I seriously doubt BVP will run
but he hasn't publicly ruled it out or endorsed Branstad, so I suppose he must be considering it. I imagine he is talking to his allies around the state to gauge how many of them would stick with him (not many, I suspect).

I can't see how he would fund or organize a third-party effort. His key campaign staffer just took a job with Grassley. Maybe BVP is keeping the possibility out there to try to influence Branstad's lieutenant governor pick. I've been more interested in that angle.


[ Parent ]
Sore loser laws
have to do with horse race politics so that's a fair game topic unless you are just doing policy talk with it.

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MI-GOV
I love seeing the pro-lifers show how their morality is very hollow on everything else.  Cox is an admitted serial adulterer.  

I could care less what people do in their bedrooms as long as they are competent, but I do not preach a morality agenda either.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


Rand Paul benefiting from Democratic infighting in U.S. Senate race
http://www.courier-journal.com...

In the end of the day, Grayson's voters were more idealogically in sync with Paul than Conway's are with Mongiardo.

If Conway was smart, he'd move to the hard right of Paul on foreign policy issues, especially in a hawkish state like Kentucky.


[ Parent ]
At
the end of the day there are A LOT of Republicans who will never, ever vote for Paul. There are some who will suck it up because of the R by his name but MANY will support Conway. I am thinking 10-15% at least. I also think a lot of those conservative Democrats would probably have voted for Grayson but may actually suck it up to support Conway or stay home just because Paul scares them too much as well. You guys should have nominated Grayson, he would have been a slam dunk, rather than a fifty-fifty.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Come on
There's not a public poll out there that supports your assertion that it's a 50-50 race.

It's at the very minimum lean-R and it's a pretty strong lean-R with the two non-Kos polls showing Paul at around or over 50%.


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The non-Kos polls are Rasmussen junk polls, less valid than Kos......
Really, there's not been much good public polling on this race.  SurveyUSA I think has polled for local TV, but they tested primaries only and not the general.

At least the last Daily Kos poll and the last Rasmussen poll both smelled right, both showing Paul up by a single-digit margin.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Nope, SurveyUSA polled the race
and found Paul up 51-45.

I wouldn't call a 51-45 lead a 50/50 race.


[ Parent ]
Before or after the primary?
Regardless considering this is Kentucky in 2010 that is pathetic and wait until people become familiar with Paul's extremism and then let's see the polling. Paul wrote the attack adds for Conway and there may be more ahead in gaffes.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Thanks for the reminder, but that's still perfectly consistent with what I just wrote......
I said Daily Kos and Rasmussen both showed Paul up single-digits, and SUSA says the same.

I don't disagree at all that the race leans Paul.  It's not 50-50, at least not right now.

But this is going to be competitive with Conway having a plausible path to victory as long as Conway runs a competent campaign that uses the material against Paul that's clearly there.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Some would
6% is absolutely nothing in June.  The only thing that makes me call it a slight GOP retention is it's Kentucky.

[ Parent ]
This
is about as 50-50 as they get. Let's face it if you had got Grayson it would be safe R. Polling is irrelevant as people are still not familiar with Paul's craziness and do not know enough about the candidates. Besides the only polling after the primary is Rasmussen. Although let me guess, you are a Paulite, I will not try and reason.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I hate to be rude because I have merely
disagreed with you but what you just wrote is effectively that no poling matters at all.  I can use your same argument to justify a 6-8 point race as a toss-up.  Under that logic, then Rossi/Murray is a toss-up as well.  Or I could argue that voters don't know enough about Alexi's bank deal to render IL-Sen a lean-R (and I don't buy that argument, it's pretty clear to me that the race is a toss-up or even lean D as that's what the polling shows).

SurveyUSA is the bluegrass poll in case you missed that one.  Paul was up 51-45 in that poll.


[ Parent ]
Sorry
if I offended you, the Paulite comment was off base. However being a Republican with a 6 point lead in Kentucky in 2010 is not good and Conway has room to grow and people are not familiar with Paul's craziness. I think Washington is a tossup just so you know and if it was not for Kirks military gaffes I would put Illinois at lean R. I have Washington as tossup tilt Murray, and Illinois tossup tilt Kirk.    

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
You can use whatever logic you want
for whatever prognostications you want to make.  

[ Parent ]
Your argument about IL-SEN
isn't wrong because of polling so much as it just doesn't make sense. The Broadway Bank story received plenty of attention when it broke but now it's out of the news and replaced by Mark Kirk's troubles. What makes IL tossup or Lean D rather than Lean R is mostly Kirk's own idiocy.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
They aren't?
people are still not familiar with Paul's craziness

His craziness got national media play.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
The national media play has only limited reach to voters......
Average voters, in Kentucky and everywhere, aren't paying attention to political media like we do.  This stuff has to penetrate local TV news, local newspapers, and the more conspicuous national news reporting which means it has to be the stuff of mainline primetime news reporting and not just part of the 24-hour political news cycle.

I think Rand Paul's Civil Rights Act crap penetrated the Kentucky electorate, and I have no doubt it hurt him a little bit.

But Conway not having money to go on the air and hammer him like Reid is doing to Angle, that hurts.  Also hurting is that as far as I can tell, Paul isn't getting blasted for avoiding local news media.  I don't know if he's actually avoiding them or not, but he's at least not getting blasted for doing any such thing.

Remember, people seek out the details ONLY of that subject matter which personally interests them.  At SSP and elsewhere on political blogs we're all political junkies, but we're a teeny tiny fraction of voters.  To everyone else, much of this stuff is just clutter.  So it takes a lot of effort and precision to make sure the information about Paul that helps Conway actually reaches voters.  Conway himself hasn't been able to make that happen...yet.

If and when Conway's bank account is flush again, he's going to have to form a good attack message out of the treasure trove of material that can be used against Paul.  The material is there, but it takes skill to do that, and Trey Greyson showed it's not a skill you can take for granted.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Id agree with this
Im sure many have heard of Paul, but arent sure who he is or how he fits into their life.  'Ok, so there is some Rand Paul guy running for some office, I think, and I may have heard he said something ridiculous.'

Oh I cant wait fo campaign season to pick-up!


[ Parent ]
You dont need a poll to tell you everything do you?


[ Parent ]
Mongiardo is a dick. He needs to suck it up and be a man.
Conway won fair and square.  Yes losing hurts, but as the article states, Mongiardo was calling for party unity a short time before the primary when he thought he would win.  He needs to grow up and endorse now.

I haven't given Conway money yet as I've been waiting to see how his campaign develops, but he needs to get base Democrats unified.  I normally wouldn't give money in this race, but Rand Paul is dangerous to society.  Not as dangerous as Sharron Angle, but his ivory tower demogoguery is still destructive.  But I'm still not going to pull the trigger without evidence Conway is doing what he needs to do.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


[ Parent ]
Oh I'll definitely be donating something to Conway
It may be as small as $10 but I cant sit back and not try to do something to prevent a Senator Paul.  Glad to see Conway on Orange to Blue!

[ Parent ]
Overgeneralizing
From living in the land of the Bitter/Clingers, I think there is a strong case for his foreign policy agenda being well received on both sides of the spectrum.  While being anti-war, Rand Paul has the whole isolationist thing going on for him.  This plays well in places like Kentucky where nativism is still strong.

As an interventionist, I would never vote for Rand Paul.  This anti-active foreign policy crowd really scares me.  In the end there is little difference between George Bush and Barack Obama when compared to Rand Paul.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


[ Parent ]
Oops, didn't mean that as a reply


[ Parent ]
Is Anyone Following the California State Senate Race?
I just want to let you know it is not too late to make calls for it. This is a big chance to pick a seat and put us one seat away from the 2/3 majority. We will need it if Meg is elected. Laird is a liberal progressive and a strong environmentalist. His opponent, Blakeslee is a conservative former Exxon Oil executive and has received contributions from...BP, yes the BP with the oil spill. If we will get a 2/3 State Senate majority in California, we must pick up seats like this one. It would be great to sign up and make a few calls.

http://www.lairdforsenate.com/...

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17, CA-06,  


I know
this race has partially turned into a referendum on offshore drilling, which isn't surprising since the district takes in Monterrey and Blakeslee is an former oil executive. I've heard its likely that neither Blakeslee or Laird will crack 50% tomorrow night because of third party candidates.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
I saw some ads on Laird's Website
http://www.lairdforsenate.com/... Here is the link

I think the coastline there should not be favorable toward offshore drilling. Blakeslee's area around Santa Maria is probably more favorable to it but he will win there anyway. Also, I think the BP spill definitely makes more people anti offshore drilling here. I think it will be close but I do not see Blakeslee winning. Organization wise, Blakeslee does not even have a facebook page.

Also, has anyone seen polls on this race?

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17, CA-06,  


[ Parent ]
IA-Gov
What is the deadline for Branstad to pick a Lt. Gov nominee? If its after the filing deadline for independents, could he just play along like BVP was being considered and then announce after the filing deadline that he picked someone else?

Electoral impacts of Obama cabinet resignations
With Peter Orszag and Rahm Emanuel leaving soon, who from elective office could be considered to replace them?  

Is there any real evidence that Rahm is leaving?
Otherwise this is purely GOP wishful thinking.

[ Parent ]
All the media reports
Which are sometimes right, sometimes wrong. But, if Daley retires in 2011, he will be, so this conversation is still worthwhile.
What do ya'll think about Xavier Beccera for OMB? He is in a safe Dem district, in Dem leadership, and has an economics degree, and ranks high on the Budget committee.  

[ Parent ]
Obama Favors Technocrats too much...
...to fill his top budget office with a politician, even though I think Beccera's pretty keen.

[ Parent ]
Becerra's ambition is to be the first Latino Speaker of the House
He was considered for Secretary of Labor, I believe, but said he wasn't going to leave the House for the White House.

[ Parent ]
Emanuel
I think some Democrats want him gone too.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

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But the only one who has a vote is Obama


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Most democrats want him gone...
His republican-lite policy pushes have severely damaged the administration.  He was the one who wanted the war in Afghanistan ramped up.  He was the one who killed the public option and wanted to kill health reform in general.  He was the force of the status quo in the Obama administration, and that has seriously alienated Obama's voters.

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Ok...
Rahm didn't kill the public option: Ben Nelson, Blanche Lincoln, Mary Landrieu, and Joe Lieberman killed the public option, they threatened to filibuster a bill that contained the public option and the administration really had no way to prevent that from happening. Emanuel preferred to not go through with HCR, but he got overruled, and when that happened he did his best to get what the President wanted passed.

And no matter what, Rahm Emanuel is in the service of President Barack H. Obama, not the other way around. If you have a problem with what the administration has done, then take it up with President Obama, not with Rahm Emanuel, period.

Anyways, that's my only thing to say, just because I don't want to get bogged down on issues.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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You're Forgetting Someone...
"He was the one who wanted the war in Afghanistan ramped up."

So was Obama. In fact, he campaigned on it.

But then, I'm not convinced "most democrats" DO want Rahm gone, or even know who he is. And even if they do, that's a far cry from making it an issue they'll vote on...


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I absolutely love Rahm
His sole focus is winning and that is something missing in the Democratic Party.

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His definition of winning is to give away the store...
...for the "win".  So, yeah you get the "w", but you don't get much for it!

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Republican lite
Rahm is not a conservaDem, but a pragmatist.  If he thought the public option had a chance, he would have supported it.  

Rahm was actually right on HCR in my book.  The bill is a monster that will be hard to fix in the future.  A smaller bill that was far more focused on specific issues would have set the framework for a national system in a better fashion.  The current law creates what appears to be a nationalized system without one actually existing.

In addition, both parties are pro-war.  We are a largely pro-interventionist nation.  Get over it or join some fringe movement like Rand Paul or Ralph Nader.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7


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A smaller bill would have been completely worthless...
...the bill is too small as it is.  His idea was to keep sick men uninsured and only offer some modest protections for women and children... maybe... if you qualified.  How is that the beginnings of a national framework?  It's not... it's nothing... it would have been a complete joke.

He would never have been for a public option 'cos it was too "liberal" for his precious blue dogs whom he promised never had to vote with the caucus.  What a joke...

Biden had a smart strategy in Afghanistan... focus on the Pakistan border ad pull out everyone else.  Had Obama followed his advice during the honeymoon period, he could have pulled it off, but Rahm thought that escalating the "good war" was a political winner ('cos foreign wars have been such gifts to the two previous presidents who tried them... not!).  What a surprise it must have been to him when the polling shifted in the summer and everyone wanted out.  Well, it was too late.

Rahm is no pragmatist.  His famous quote is having "democrats vote like republicans".  Well, he got his wish and it's going to end up an electoral slaughter.  He simply doesn't get it, and his bad advice has damaged the Obama brand probably beyond repair.


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As much as I dislike Rahm
I believe you perceive his strategy incorrectly.

If Ds had followed Rahm's strategy, they would have --selectively-- out-Republicaned the R party on certain issues, without the dilly-dallying indecisive fence straddling seen from the Lincolns, Nelsons, etc.

And as much as the liberal base (like myself) would have hated it, such a move would have been seen as strength, possibly pushing the R party to the Paulite margins.


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Rahm is celebrating that a big reform got done. His concern...
...was entirely political, not based on policy.  He was just scared it would be unpopular and wouldn't get done.  There's never been any indication he disagreed with the idea of a big reform if it could be done.

The stuff in your second paragraph, Ryan, sounds like the stuff of imagination, not policy.  What "specific issues" would you focus on?  What do you think you can do that doesn't have a ripple effect and force doing other things, too?

I'm sorry but people who say stuff like that are just expressing wishful notions often without being informed on how the health care system works.  Everything in the health care system is interrelated.  What exactly would you do in your utopian bill?

The health care reform law is a good law.  It's not anyone's ideal because there is no such thing as an ideal.  There are just trade-offs to make the system more efficient economically while expanding coverage.

I had my annual physical last week and asked my doctor about his business and his thoughts on the reform bill.  On the business side, his sole complaint was health insurance companies.  On the reform side, he worried that there weren't enough providers to handle all the new patients coming into the system, and he worried about "government-run" health care that would control health care decisions instead of letting doctors and patients make those decisions.  The former concern is not a valid complaint as it just says "omigod we can't ration health care anymore!"  The latter concern was a misconception, as I realized he mistook the insurance exchanges for what in politics is called the public option.  Even when I explained to him no public option passed, that it was just going to be the same insurance companies already familiar to him, he was skeptical and thought there still would be this uber-regulated government control.

This reform law is going to become well-received over time, as these misconceptions gradually fall away.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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My doctor hates insurance companies
He finds it demeaning and infuriating that those non-doctors are constantly second-guessing him and telling him what he can and can't do, when all he wants to do is help his patients, and he hates wasting so much time on forms and talking to insurance people. It seems pretty clear to me that what he'd most like is a single-payer system that pays him fair fees and requires a minimum of paperwork, so that he can devote more time to his patients - and his family (he has to spend time after office hours just dealing with insurance bullshit). For another example of something that bugged him, he found it very annoying when a few years ago, he wasn't able to call in a prescription for Hydrocodone Syrup for me because it was a controlled substance (this seems to no longer be a problem with faxes and possibly some relaxation of regulations). Somehow, in places like France, you can get codeine pastilles in pharmacies without a doctor visit, yet they don't have an epidemic of codeine addiction.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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I'm afraid it's not possible to make both doctors and patients happy......
Doctors want to get paid what they want, without objection.

Patients want costs controlled.

Somebody's gotta lose.

This is an example of why health care reform is such an electoral nightmare, no matter the urgency of it as a policy matter.

Politically, health care reform is a decision on who you can most afford to piss off while still steering the system toward greater efficiencies and broader access.

Obama and Congressional Democrats decided let's piss off some patients but not others; let's give patients a mix of benefits and costs; let's side with doctors and drugmakers and against insurance companies and medical equipment manufacturers.

There was no way to do this without pissing off major constituencies, and the constituencies who benefit just cannot be made as happy as the objectors can be made angry.

Health care reform was always going to be a political loser, no matter what approach was adopted.  Which is why I admire what Democrats have done.  I only hope they keep their majorities this November, so they feel like they escaped and got some vindication.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Think about this
If doctors were paid a bit less per visit but didn't have to spend so much time dealing with insurance bullshit, they could see more patients.

Anyway, I believe many doctors would trade somewhat of a pay cut for more freedom to practice medicine the way they believe is most effective, more financial aid for medical school so they don't have debts up the wazoo, and some control over exorbitant malpractice insurance fees. Doctors are primarily motivated by wanting to heal people, not wanting to do lots of paperwork and spend lots of time on the phone with recalcitrant insurance agents.

All that said, I agree that there are different constituencies, as you said.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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I
have not heard any Orszag rumors yet, what about Chris Dodd? As for Emanuel I would say he will go with Axelrod.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Him leaving is pretty certain
He wanted to leave in april, but Obama begged him to stay. He's leaving in July.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...
Dodd would be good, but would he want someone with Dodd's ethics questions, even if he was cleared? Another interesting choice would be Jim McGovern, but he doesn't have Dodd and Beccera's experience, but he would be loved by the Dem base. Marrion Berry is retiring and on the Budget committee, so he would be a good choice, but IDK what kind of background he has.  

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IDK
about Dodd, I do not think it would cause too much controversy to appoint him but it could. I doubt McGovern would want to do it but it would be interesting. I do not think Obama would give someone who voted against HCR the job as he would probably have to come to the defense of a bill he voted against. And I think Berry has more of an agriculture background rather than budget guru so I kind of doubt it.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Appointing Dodd before the midterms
would mean Sen. McMahon for a few months...

33, living in Germany  

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Nope
Jodi Rell signed a bill last year where they don't have appointment's for the Senate, they just have a special election.  

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NV-Sen: another tea leaf on Reid campaigning hard and well......
Ralston reports on and links Reid's Spanish-language ad on Univision during the World Cup.

Ralston notes Univision World Cup ratings have been sky high, and wonders why only Reid is advertising there.  I'm glad Reid is the only one, that the Republicans are doing nothing.

Also, am I alone in thinking it's bunk how much the media thinks immigration reform legislation is soooooo critical for Dems to turn out the Hispanic vote?  This is white media ignorance at its worst (I'm speaking myself as a man of color).  Hispanics, like blacks and other people of color, have a wide range of political and policy concerns, and are adults and know exactly what they're doing.  The media's reductionism to one or two big issues they just assume decide the votes of people of color is nauseatingly ignorant, and worst yet ignorant on its face.  Hispanics have been voting one-sidedly for Democrats for a long time with no immigration reform bill, their votes don't depend on that one thing even if it's a big thing.

All of the above in mind, Reid is going to get a lot higher Hispanic turnout and higher Hispanic vote share with actual voter contact like he's doing and like OFA will do, than from any particular legislative initiative.  Immigration reform is not remotely close to make-or-break.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


......and I forgot the link to the ad! Here it is......
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blo...

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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His attempt to recite the BCRA
"stand by your ad" disclosure is actually kind of sad. And I don't even speak spanish!  

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Is the rest of the ad good?


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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Actually, upon watching it...
I'd say he did an ok job reciting it.  By your comment, it sounded like he spoke the line very badly, but he actually did fine and didn't botch it for someone who doesn't speak it much.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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I'm guessing it's appreciated and well-received......
People around the world know Americans not from immigrant households are bad with other languages, and they typically appreciate any attempt to say something in a native language.  It really is the thought that counts.  I'm guessing the Hispanic-American reaction in Nevada will be much the same.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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Im dying, that was just a terrible attempt at Spanish
Hahahahahahahaha!  But at least from my experiences, you can pronounce stuff terribly wrong all you want, they'll be happy you at least tried.

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Damn you DCCyclone
How dare you imply that ethnic groups have multiple facets and don't simply vote on one issue to the total exclusion of all others, you should be ashamed of yourself!

Don't you know that Hispanics only care about immigration reform, Jews only care about Israel; Catholics only care about banning abortion; college students (like me) only care about legalizing pot so that we can all get high; Atheists (hi again) only care about taking "Under God" out of the flag and putting the screws to all religions everywhere; Indian people care about... well I don't know what you guys are supposed to care about, the Mainstream Media hasn't told me that, but when they do you better damn well care about it and only it or otherwise Wolf Blitzer will be angry... you don't want to see Wolf Blitzer when he's angry...

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Immigration reform IS a big deal...
...for the hispanic community.  Immigration reform is a giant motivator for this community.  Fortunately for Reid, immigration reform has already happened--in Arizona.  The hispanic vote is very motivated in the southwest without Reid having to lift a finger towards immigration reform in congress.

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Post-AZ Hispanic motivation isn't showing in the polls (yet)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/139...

PRINCETON, NJ -- Hispanic voters nationwide haven't shifted their congressional voting preferences since the signing of Arizona's new immigration law on April 23. Their preference for the Democratic candidate over the Republican candidate, 61% to 32%, in April 23 to June 8 interviewing almost identically matches the 60% to 32% margin recorded between March 1 and April 22. White voters and black voters also haven't changed their voting intentions.

I don't think it will show until President Obama actually does something effective against the AZ law. Fortunately for Reid, he's in a position to push such action.  


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It DID show up in PPP's Arizona and Colorado polling......
There was strong Hispanic movement toward Democrats in PPP's polls in those two states after Arizona enacted its immigration law.

And I don't think there's necessarily a contradition between PPP and Gallup.  My hypothesis from the start was that there would be Hispanic movement for sure in Arizona, and maybe in neighboring states.  I was less confident Hispanic voters would react elsewhere.  I think the nomination of a Hispanic woman for Governor could be mitigating in New Mexico, but I bet in Arizona with openly pro-Arizona law candidates like Angle and Sandoval it will hurt Republicans.  Sandoval actually is Hispanic himself, but because he's a Republican, he supports the Arizona law, and he actually does not speak Spanish, I suspect he won't draw anything more than a normal Republican Hispanic vote share.  And having Angle on the ticket only hurts Nevada Republicans further with that demographic, at best offsetting any benefit from Sandoval on the ticket.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Thank you, I did not see those details
Nevertheless, it's still an open question w/r/t the AZ law.

The hope is that President Obama can use it to solidify a strong pro-D Hispanic majority into the future.

But that will not happen automatically, as I think user LordMike implies.

i.e. I do not see that happening without D action, in the form of a lawsuit by President Obama v. AZ, in the form of real Immigration Reform (even if it is blocked by Rs).


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addition - I mean in an overall national sense
What you say w/r/t neighboring states makes sense and is a hopeful sign.

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I want to see numbers in TX
Im salivating over the day we win it again.

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I think a failed immigration bill would be disastrous on every level......
I don't think it helps us with Hispanics to push a bill that fails.  That can be a political benefit if we push a bill when Republicans control one or both chambers of Congress, and blame can be pinned easily on them, but with Democrats having supermajorities as we do, it only makes us look impotent to try and fail.

I agree that a lawsuit against Arizona can help.  It's the right thing to do as a matter of federal action, and that's what's important, but yes I think it also helps politically with Hispanics, at least in the Southwest.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Which is based on another open question
will Ds control both houses of Congress after 2010? While I believe it's likely, it's far less than certain.

And I don't see how any immigration reform bill happens before the next Congress.


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Oh, agree, there's no bill this year, and frankly it's unlikely in 2012, too......
Congressional Republicans are going to push enforcement-only.  They'll figure, correctly, that that's plenty popular with a majority of Americans.  In fact it's popular with a massive supermajority of white Americans, and largely unpopular with people of all other colors.  And therein lies the rub:  Democrats are a multiracial party, Republicans are not.

I'm skeptical there will be any immigration reform legislation until after the next Presidential election, and even then only if Hispanic voting keeps spiking to ever-higher vote shares compared to comparable previous elections.  Republicans are going to have to experience the pain of a shrinking white electorate before responding to it.  Absent that, they'll push enforcement-only since that's what their voters want.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Gibbons considered for Branstad running mate
http://www.desmoinesregister.c...
Sounds like a good choice. The guy who massively outspent his opponents and got crushed in a congressional primary.  

Really, Branstad could pick Hitler as a running mate and still have a reasonable chance of winning
It's not like the Lt. Governor pick is that important. Just as long as he/she doesn't drool on him/herself or not know what E85 is.

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Well, not THAT Hitler
Maybe Rudolph Hitler.

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)

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having followed the IA-03 GOP primary
closely, I assure you that Gibbons is about as inept as they come. But maybe some Iowans like people who know nothing, surround themselves with Washington insiders, and have little to say beyond I was a good wrestler and "Burn the boats!" (That's still the weirdest campaign slogan ever, in my opinion.)

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I am hoping
Branstad is overconfident enough to do something that dumb. More Branstad running mate speculation is at Bleeding Heartland.

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TX-Gov from PPP
Even.

43-43.

Really not surprised. White is probably the best candidate Dems could ever have hoped for, and Perry is Perry. This one will come down to mood and turnout.

http://publicpolicypolling.blo...


Perry is, probably,
the worst candidate Reps could ever hope for. But Texas is still republican-leaning states and that balances chances..

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In a neutral year, I bet White would be favored......
This would be lean Dem in a neutral year.  Also in a neutral year, Republican primary voters might have realized that and seen to it that Hutchison performed better than she did, although she lost by such a big margin it's hard to picture a scenario where she would have won.

Perry's saving grace is timing.  He's up in the right year.

I'm hopeful White somehow pulls off the upset.  Really, this is a huge prize on so many levels that it would make up for a lot else that could go wrong on election night.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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I agree on all points


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I cannot believe that Perry
is actually being talked about as a Presidential candidate by Republicans.  

Are these people serious?


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It speaks perfectly as to the current position of the GOP
So blindly afraid of a black man running the country that the activist base will overrule any common sense and advocate for a sure loser like Perry.

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Not too shabby
If we could win Texas then it would make up for a lot of other potential losses and White would automatically be on every future Democratic VP shortlist if he does not run for the top spot himself. I am still not getting my hopes up but this poll is nice news.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I think this could hinge on two things
White raising money, and Hispanic turnout.  If White can raise enough to stay competitive in this extremely expensive state, with its dozen or so major media markets, and can turn out the Hispanic vote, he really has a shot at this.  Any incumbent in the low 40s right now who has been around as long as Perry is in trouble.  The voters know him and have passed judgment on him.  They don't fully know Mayor White -- and if he can solidify himself as a mainstream Texas Democrat (and not let Perry define him as a big city liberal), he can continue the progress Democrats have made in the Dallas area, and hopefully rack up a solid margin in Harris County.

I know we've got a lot of Senate, House, and Gov's seats to defend in what's going to be a tough year, and a finite amount of money to do it with, but I hope some resources are spent here.  There are some signs Texas is slowly trending in our directin, and certainly the demographics of the state are.  But that's not just going to happen automatically.  We've got a good candidate to really make a solid run at winning our first major statewide race there since Ann Richards was elected governor 20 years ago.


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This
looks like New Jersey in a way. Perry's job approvals are in the tank and White is fairly popular but the lean of the state is making it competitive. White has been a fundraising machine, which helps. Also the nominee for LG is Latino which will hopefully yield higher Latino turnout in November as well. Yet I wonder whether in a state were Obama is so despised a Democrat can win. It can happen but it will be tough.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I think it is worse than New Jersey
If the NJ Governor election was in 2008 rather than 2009, Corzine would have won.  

The problem for Perry starts with the fact that he has already served more time as Governor than any other in history.  


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Perry is ripe to lose
If Perry had not been so successful in painting KBH as a RINO and a Washington insider, she would have beat him.

Perry has already been governor for 9 years, longer than any other Governor in history serving consecutively.  This itself makes him vulnerable.  Then you have that Perry won just 39% in 2006, which shows his popularity in the state.  

Perry only has a chance because 2010 is going to be a GOP year in Texas.  If this was any other year, I think Perry would lose.

White needs to define himself as a effective pragmatic conservative, not a crazy right-winger like Perry, but a moderate one.  This will come down to the Hispanics in the South and the KBH Republicans and independents in the Houston, DFW, and San Antonio suburbs.  


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The AZ immigration law needs to be brought up
And Im sure Perry would come out swinging in favor of it and probably say that he'd favor something much more extreme.  White would just need to run a ton of ads in Southern Texas and Spanish-language channels.  He could very easily attack Perry and make him the golden child with Hispanic voters will also not pissing off any white voters because the white voters wont ever see the ad, and if it's in Spanish, probably not understand it.

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PA-Sen tie
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...

Very confident of a Sestak win here.


Joe Cao luckiest man in congress?
http://www.nationalreview.com/...
Running against 3 prominent African-Americans???  

Cat fud from a Republican standpoint n/t


"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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There will be heavy pressure to get behind the Democrat, and...
...that's going to make it tough to actually split the vote in a way that lets Cao sneak through.

Remember that the Democratic nominee almost certainly will be black, and there's no other reason to think black voters won't support the Democrat.  That Cao is the incumbent also incentivizes party voting.  And Cao isn't black, so he's not going to have much of a natural base.

This is wishful by National Review to think one or two indies change the scenario.  The math remains virtually impossible for Cao.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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