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SSP Daily Digest: 6/11

by: Crisitunity

Fri Jun 11, 2010 at 3:58 PM EDT


AR-Sen: Bill Halter is "mulling" an endorsement of Blanche Lincoln, and wants a sit-down with her before doing so. Frankly, it'd be a big surprise if he didn't endorse her: it didn't seem like any more negative a race than usual by today's standards; labor made its point and is probably eager to move on; and Halter would probably like to run for something else at some point.

LA-Sen: Charlie Melancon has, well, a crisitunity on his hands with the oil spill in the Gulf. It gives him the chance to go on the offensive against David Vitter (who's been trying to limit BP's liabilities, and who's also taken to Twitter to tout Louisiana seafood (now pre-blackened) as safe). But he has the tricky task of keep his district's oil-and-gas dependency in mind; he's aggressively calling Vitter a "liar" now... but only because Vitter has been saying that Melancon supports the Obama administration offshore drilling moratorium.

NC-Sen: Bob Menendez continues to play favorites in the NC-Sen runoff, although it wasn't with a large sum of money: Menendez's PAC (not the DSCC) gave $5,000 to Cal Cunningham last week, as well as the same amount to Blanche Lincoln.

SC-Sen: The slow-motion trainwreck of Alvin Greene's media rollout continues apace in South Carolina, with last night's go-nowhere interview with Keith Olbermann taking the cake. (Gawker concludes he may actually be, instead of a plant, just "some random dude." Glad to see our phrasing's catching on.) Jim DeMint is, for his part, denying that he put Greene up to this, while other Republicans are helpfully suggesting that Democrats may have put Greene up to it instead, in order to give Vic Rawl a visibility boost (because unopposed candidates don't appear on the ballot). The Rawl campaign has had elections experts look over the voting patterns to try to figure out what happened, and they've already raised one odd red flag: the strange shift from the early absentee votes (where Rawl dominated) to votes cast on Election Day (which Greene won).

UT-Sen: Bob Bennett, after hinting at it several weeks ago, went ahead and endorsed Tim Bridgewater today. Bridgewater is one of the two quasi-insurgents who finished ahead of Bennett at the state GOP convention, and will be competing in the primary against Mike Lee.

CA-Gov: I think Godwin's Law might not yet have been enacted when Jerry Brown was Governor the first time, but he might want to familiarize himself with it, after he was caught referring (apparently in jest) to Goebbels in reference to Meg Whitman's saturation advertising. Speaking of which, Whitman just launched her first TV ad post-primary, in which (big surprise) she hates on taxes.

FL-Gov: Looking for something that'll stick against moneybags Rick Scott, Bill McCollum is now trying to attack him on his pro-life credentials, saying that Columbia/HCA hospitals performed abortions while Scott was CEO.

OR-Gov, OR-Sen: SurveyUSA is out with a poll in Oregon that has a whiff of outlier to it (as any poll that's about six points to the right of Rasmussen tends to): they find Republican candidate Chris Dudley leading Democratic ex-Gov. John Kitzhaber 47-40. Part of the problem for Dems might be that the poll has third-party Progressive candidate Jerry Wilson racking up 6%, which is assumedly coming out of Kitzhaber's column. But the crosstabs have Dudley winning 44-43 in the Portland area, which, given that area's sheer blueness, seems very odd (as counterpoint, Gordon Smith won the Portland area (Multnomah, Clackamas, and Washington Counties) 50-46 in 2002 en route to a 56-40 victory statewide, the Republicans' high-water mark for about the last 25 or so years). They also have Ron Wyden leading Jim Huffman 51-38 in the Senate race (with 4 for a Libertarian and 2 for a Green), which also seems strange.

SC-Gov: Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer, who crashed and burned his car/plane in 4th place in the GOP gubernatorial primary, threw his support to 2nd place finisher Gresham Barrett for the runoff. He said Barrett was the only one he "could trust."

TX-Gov: The Green Party has agreed that it temporarily won't put forth any candidates until there's been a hearing in the lawsuit filed by the state Democrats. The lawsuit concerns whether the Greens unlawfully accepted a corporation's help in obtaining the signatures it needed to (surprisingly) qualify for a ballot line in Texas.

AL-02: The Tea Party Express weighed in with an endorsement in the Republican runoff in the 2nd, and they aren't supporting the NRCC-backed establishment candidate, Montgomery city councilor Martha Roby. Instead, they're backing billiards entrepreneur Rick Barber. Their beef with Roby seems to be that she backed a budget pushed by then-Montgomery mayor, now-Rep. Bobby Bright.

KS-02: You may remember Sean Tevis, who became a netroots fave based on his clever cartoon depictions of his campaign and raised a surprising amount of money that almost let him knock off an incumbent in a red legislative district. Well, he's moving up a level this year; he's decided to run in the 2nd, against Lynn Jenkins (or Dennis Pyle, if he successfully teabags Jenkins). He still faces two other Dems, Cheryl Hudspeth and Thomas Koch, in the primary.

NC-08: The SEIU looks like it's going through with its strange plan to launch a third-party bid against Larry Kissell in the 8th; they submitted 34K signatures to qualify Wendell Fant for the ballot, much more than the necessary 17K. (The SEIU had previously tried to get a whole third party a ballot line, but that signature drive came up short.) Perhaps even stranger, Fant hasn't agreed to run, at least not yet; he didn't show up at the ballot-submitting press conference. Fant, it turns out, is an ex-Kissell aide who may have an axe to grind after getting dismissed for using a work computer to work on his own VA case.

NJ-06: Diane Gooch, the self-funder who was expected to easily win the GOP nomination in the bluish 6th to go against Rep. Frank Pallone, is instead finding herself having to request a recount. Anna Little has declared victory, based on the 78-vote margin, after spending $22K to Gooch's $430K.

NV-03: Americans for Prosperity has Dina Titus in its sights; they're taking out a $100K ad buy on network and cable (thanks, LVRJ, for actually reporting the details!), still harping on Titus for her vote in favor of health care reform.

NY-13: Because the Republican/Conservative field in the 13th had some wiggle room to get even more messed-up, now another guy is trying to get in on the action. It's Lou Wein, who's going to try to petition his way onto the ballot against Michael Grimm and Michael Allegretti, each of whom have their own clique of powerful backers. Wein is more of a loose cannon -- he's best-known for winning 4% statewide in a 1990 gubernatorial bid on the Right-to-Life line, as well as an unsuccessful 1977 mayoral bid --  but if he can pick up the teabagger banner, he might make some waves here.

VA-05: Jim McKelvey's up to something weird here; we just don't know what yet. He says he's going to make up his mind this weekend whether or not to endorse Rob Hurt, to whom he finished 2nd in the GOP primary. His latest action is a head-scratcher: he's starting his own PAC, the Take Our Country Back PAC, in order to "seek out, support, educate, train and elect conservative candidates on the local and state level in the fifth district and throughout Virginia."

Arizona: Here's an interesting piece of data that should hearten Terry Goddard and Rodney Glassman: there's been a surge in Latinos registering as Democrats since the passage of Arizona's new immigration law. This shouldn't be a surprise, as it closely mirrors what happened in the wake of California's Prop 187 in the 1990s. The surge is also demographics-driven, given the fast Latino growth in Arizona, and in fact nationwide: the Census Bureau reports that, for the 2009 estimate, minorities will make up 35% of the nation, way up from 21% of the nation in the 2000 census. While much of that comes from increases in Latino births, a lot of it also has to do with more Americans self-identifying as multiracial.

Governors: Josh Goodman does some number crunching and guesses that, with all the open seats and expected turnover this year, we're on track to have 28 new Governors. That would be an all-time record for gubernatorial turnover (the previous record, 27, goes back to 1920).

When Animals Attack: Best wishes for a quick recovery to Rep. Anthony Weiner, whose photo op went awry yesterday, ending with him getting stabbed in the hand by the horn of a large mohair goat. Apparently the most dangerous place to be is not between Weiner and a camera... so long as you're a goat.

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Tevis has an interesting test
he doesn't live in the 2nd, and his home town (Olathe) is listed on primary ballots. Not sure if he loses votes, but he definitely won't gain votes for being a hometown guy. Leavenworth and Crawford County are not the heavy vote reservoirs, but Tevis starts at a disadvantage and has to lock down Topeka, and the portion of Douglas County in the district.

Primary ballots?
It's been awhile since I've voted in Kansas, but are hometowns listed on general election ballots, too? Because assuming he raises massive amounts of money and runs a good campaign between now and August, when the primary occurs, he'll face off against two weak primary opponents and likely win. And unless hometowns appear on the general election ballot, that won't be a big issue, methinks.

Btw, I knew as soon as I put up a comment about Tevis in the open thread that the daily digest would appear with him in it. From my previous comment, here was the most interesting tidbit in the article about his filing:

Tevis, who builds websites for a living, said he came up with something he thinks the voters will love. "I came up with a really good idea last year and I've been working on it ever since," he said.

I assume he's referring to something bigger than just the fact of his running in the 2nd. The only hint his website gives is that it is cooler than a picture of Darth Vader riding a cat. And this is why we love Sean Tevis.

Oh, and RBH, I think if anyone can overperform in Google, Kansas, it's gotta be Sean Tevis. :)

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
yeah, they're listed on both primary and general
but I'm pretty sure that they have a lot more of an effect in the primary than the general election. In the primary, voters who can't tell candidates apart would vote based on what they see on the ballot (name/home town). In the general election, they'd vote more for the party.

I'd love to see some pre-1988 stuff from primaries though to test it further. I'd consider an hour trip to Lawrence since I have the time and they have the stuff. Although there has to be an easier way.

Also, the Senate primary will be an interesting test. Three Johnson County candidates (one from Shawnee, who got a ton of Shawnee County votes in 2004), Haley (from KCK) and Wiesner (from Lawrence). Hope Wiesner is good, because he might just win. I was kind of hoping for a Topekan to run so that Conroy wouldn't gobble up votes there again.

Conroy won the primary in 2004, and withdrew, saying that he was tired and didn't expect to win. So he is running again, go figure. Conroy won by 12919 with a 8335 vote margin in Shawnee County.

I don't know of any states outside of Kansas, Pennsylvania, and Maryland to put home town or home county on a ballot.


[ Parent ]
SC-Senate
Who is behind Greene?  Maybe one of DeMint's supports is behind Greene.  Planting him on the ballot had little to do with DeMint being endangered as he was going to win regardless.  Instead it is designed to give DeMint a massive majority and no need to campaign at all in state.  This would allow him to campaign all over the place for other Republicans and boost his potential to be leader seeing nobody likes the current leader.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

Instead it is designed to give DeMint a massive majority and no need to campaign at all in state.
Even if Greene lost, I still think DeMint would have to do zero campaigning. Don't know how you feel about that though.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
PPP showed Demint
under 50% at 49-31 against Rawls and another pollster had it pegged at 50-43, so he probably would have needed to campaign a little.  Not so much against Greene.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

[ Parent ]
True
But a 18 point lead from PPP is not something to lose sleep over if you know what I mean.

As for Greene, it may not be a plant it just may be that the SC Dem Party is really screwed up there I mean you take away Clyburn, Spratt and Rex they virtually have no presence there and Shaheen has no chance of beating Haley since everyone is now touting her at a national leader. I mean look at who they nominated to take on Lindsey Graham last cycle.

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22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
I wanted him to win.
I wanted to see the formation of the Flat Top Caucus.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
Sheheen has as good a chance as Hodges had in '98 (and he won)
There are plenty of independents and Republicans that ain't buying what Haley is selling. She is Sanford's idealogical twin, and after 8 years of veto overides, a desire for change is in the air.

Well over .5 million voters won't have their say until November.  Haley has a ton of enemies in the GOP too.  Just because she is a teabagger's wet dream does not mean she wins in November.  

As for DeMint, he is not universally loved either.  18 points (the other poll was 7, btw) is easily surmoutable in the time left.  With Greene in, DeMint can spend every dime and minute he has campaigning elsewhere, and still win a landslide.    


[ Parent ]
Ok then explain this to me
Explain why ever since she won the MSM media has been touting her a a major star in the GOP, a keynote speaker at the convention. Hell one person on here said she make a good running mate to whoever runs againist Obama in '12. Granted this was someone who's a disgruntled Hillary supporter who believes Obama should be primaried for the good of the country but still. I think it's because she's of Indian decent is why there's all the hype but what do I know.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Media
The mainstream media is a bunch of idiots.  They are not partisan per se, but a bunch of idiots who like touting the newest, coolest thing on the block.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

[ Parent ]
Tell me something I don't know
Thats why I stopped listening to them. I liked Meet the Press but stopped watching it when Russert died and was replaced with David Gregory and I pretty much tuned out MSNBC with the exception of Keith Olbermann and Good Morning America when George Stepanopoluos replaced Diane Sawyer and made it political and annoying.

Look I agree with what everyone is saying about Haley, before the Sanford scandal before Haley began running and was touted at a key Sanford ally in the SC Legislature and there's no doubt she will continue that, she even has the affairs Sanford had I just don't like the hype the MSN is giving her because even though we know the MSM is made up of dumbasses, to the rest of America that isn't pol junkies like us they don't see the BS the media really is and because of that all the hype Haley is getting by them makes America thinks she's credible when she really isn't.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
Cable news
I do not have cable for a reason and its not money.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

[ Parent ]
Meh…...
I attempt to avoid most of the MSM but I really enjoy Maddow. I could never go without cable. Gotta watch my Colts and CSPAN after all.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Your a smart man as well..
You like Maddow, what about Olbermsnn?

As for the Colts meh, no love for the Pacers? I thought IN was a huge basketball town.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
Not
too big on Keith myself. Yeah we are big on bball but not me so much. Every now and then I go up to Bloomington to catch a game but not as often as I should. Speaking of sports I love to catch the Reds every time I can get to Cincy.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
What's the problem with Keith
I mean certainly everyone is entitled to their opinions but i'm just wondering, he's not the type of political guy that makes you dislike him like say Bill Maher for example.

As for B-Ball, shame you not into B-Ball, great sport. I'm a Cavs fan and went to Indy to see them play the Pacers and Jesus the Conseco Fieldhouse is a amazing piece of work. It certainly resembles the Fieldhouse at Butler University for sure.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
Nothing
It's just personal taste, I don't have anything against him I am just not that into his show. As for the basketball, well I know I am a disgrace to my Indiana roots. I love the movie Hoosiers if that helps.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
It's just personal taste, I don't have anything against him I am just not that into his show
There's nothing wrong with that. I mean i'm not a huge fan of Paul Krugman and to some extent Bill Maher and alot of people like them.

As for B-Ball, your not a "Disgrace" to your state, your just in the minority although there are alot of basketball fans in IN that are more fans of College (espically IU and Butler) and HS b-ball than the Pacers.

As for Hoosiers, it does make it for you not being into the sport as it's an excellent movie (have it on my DVR) and probally one of Gene Hackan's finest movies he was in. It's one of my favorite movies next to Role Models, Bull Durham and The Shawshank Redemption (which is my favorite movie).

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
You
will be so disappointed in me but I had the chance to go see Butler in the final four but passed. I actually enjoy an IU game once in awhile though. Once I sat behind the legend that is John Mellancamp. I also love The Shawshank Redemption.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Man you screwed up passing that up
To see the cinderella story that was Butler that year. I'm not intrestred in March Madness once The University of Pittsburgh choke that they do every year in March Madness but that team kept me watching the tourney.

Yeah Shawshank Redemption is a great movie. The story, the characters, the actors it just fit into being a rememorable movie. Plus I like anything with Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins in it.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
Your a smart man
Cable news would make you informative, it just fries your brain with their BS and nonsense they spew. I watched Sean Hannity for five minutes and I felt my IQ dropping 10 points lol.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Correction..
I meant to say it WOULDN'T make you informative.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
I have no reason to have cable.
Well, okay, I have a few reasons:
* round-the-clock news
* C-SPAN
* round-the-clock Law & Order between TNT and USA networks

Yeah, that's about it.  Not enough to justify me getting cable.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


[ Parent ]
Don't
forget about reruns of the West Wing.

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
I'm kind of the same way...
I have Satellite (DISH Network) and with over 200 channels I pretty watch about maybe 10-20 of them like HBO, C-SPAN, TNT for Law and Order and Cold Case, USA for Law and Order SVU and CI and House, The NHL Network and FSN Pittsburgh. The only time I watch cable news is for the local morning news and the Pittsburgh Steelers besides that I have no use for cable news.

Most of my day I spend watching movies and documentaries and Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes on DVD.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
She's non-white and Republican
See also: Jindal, Bobby and Rubio, Marco.

27, Democratic, IL-01

[ Parent ]
I mentioned her ethnicity could be the hype in my comment on this.


22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
victim
Because Haley appears to be the victim of an attempt to slander her.  No one's been able to prove the infidelity accusations.  Further, Knotts branded her a raghead.  Imagine what would've happened if a prominent politician called Obama a n---er during the election:  NO ONE would've wanted to say ANYTHING bad about him in the wake of such an attack.  So Haley has loads of sympathy now.  It's up to Sheheen to have a serious alternative ready when the Haley bounce fades.

Now what currently worries me is that all the media time is being eaten up by both Haley and Greene.  Sheheen needs to be visible again.


[ Parent ]
Well to be fair
Jake Knotts, a prominent pol in SC referred to Obama as a raghead as well.

Question I have is does anyone here at SSP believe the allegations towards Haley. I'm not going to label her a victim until I have proof she is.

Your right though, it's up to Vincent Shaheen to fade away the star and become an alternative in this race and this Alvin Greene shit has become a distraction indeed.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


[ Parent ]
Allegations
I suspect they are false.  They do not pass my smell test.  This means they are probably not true as I am as cynical as they come.

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

[ Parent ]
You could be right
I mean all I see from this is hearsay, there hasn't been any concrete proof Haley had those affairs outside of a few stories. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and I don't even like her.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Allegations, Shmallegations
Well, let's just make a list of all the many politicians who have been falsely accused of sexual improprieties in the past:

1. Nikki Haley by Folks.

2. Nikki Haley by Marchant.

3. Uhhh....

4. ????

5. Ensign, no..., Gibbons, no...., Sanford, no...., Foley, no...., Vitter, no...., Spitzer, no...., Souder, no ...., Gingrich, no...., Clinton, no...., Edwards, no...., Craig. no...., Fossella, no.... Man, this is hard work! There has to have been some other politician who was falsely accused of sexual propriety, doesn't there?!?!

6. Wait a minute, I got it! Andrew Jackson's wife rachel was falsely accused of sexual improprieties in the 1824 election. See, there are other politicians who have been given the same treatment as poor Nikki.


[ Parent ]
Didn't Rachel Jackson die of stress
She took from her husband's allegations (which weren't really allegations, just mud slinging by her husband's opponents)? Hey she probally did it as it came from more than one person, I just like to see more proof that's all.  

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Rachel Jackson
Rachel Jackson had heart problems for much of her adult life, and died of a heart attack after her husband was elected, but before he took office.  Whether or not the stress of the 1828 campaign caused this is debatable, but in Andrew Jackson's mind, it killed her.

She was basically accused of being a bigomist.  Her first marriage was a disaster (and there was probably domestic violence involved), so she divorced him in the 1790s (obviously very rare at the time).  All evidence says that she in good faith thought the divorce was final, and then she married Andrew Jackson.  It turns out the paperwork wasn't appropriately filed/processed, so that was taken care of, and the Jacksons married again.  All of this was over 30 years before it came out in the 1828 election.  This was probably the dirtiest election in American history (on all sides) -- and Rachel Jackson (a quiet, shy, deeply religious woman) was smeared as a bigomist whore.  President Jackson never forgave it, and it really contributed to his mentality as being stubbornly unforviging to political opponents.


[ Parent ]
Wait
You really think DeMint could take out McConnell as GOP leader of the Senate? I can see DeMint as leader when McConnell retires but I don't know if he could do it while McConnell is still sitting Republican leader.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Agreed.
Like someone said the other day, political parties are incumbent protection rackets, and the Senate is the biggest incumbent protection racket of all. I buy a few teabaggers (Paul in KY, Lee in UT, etc.) voting DeMint if they win, but that will just get them shipped off to the Senate committee on aging (or some other unpopular assignment) after McConnell wins in a landslide. Senate incumbents ARE the establishment, and no existing member in good standing of the Senate GOP clique would dare vote against the big boss.  

[ Parent ]
Agreed
In the end one you get elected the party chamber leader is your boss. You cross him you get zero clout. Remember when Paul said he wouldn't vote for McConnell and now he's flip-flopping. Wonder why?

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
I doubt it...
I doubt McConnell loses, but DeMint is going to try to get some votes.  

23, male, center-right cynical Republican, PA-7

[ Parent ]
How
did he get nearly 60% of the vote though?  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
What is so weird about McKelvey's actions?
He's mulling over whether to endorse the guy who beat him.  Ok.  Not unusual.

He created a PAC to help out conservative candidates in VA and elsewhere.  Not sure how that's realyl that odd.


Well, it's strange because it doesn't seem like a natural priority
so it probably indicates he has something else on his mind.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
Re Arizona
The first thing I thought of was that line from Troll 2: "They're eating her. And then they're going to eat me. OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD."

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

"The strange shift from the early absentee votes to votes cast on Election Day. "
Much as I want to believe that this clusterfrack is due to shenanigans, isn't there an obvious explanation for that?

Person filling out absentee ballot at home: "Huh, there are two Senate candidates. Never heard of either of 'em." :: googles :: "Well, I can't even find a website for this Greene dude, so I guess I'll vote for 'Vic Rawl'. He seems okay."

Person wandering into voting booth: "Huh, there are two Senate candidates. Never heard of either of 'em. Eeenie, meenie, minie, moe..."

27, Democratic, IL-01


I really wish more states would send out voter information packets, like California does
I know its an added expensive, but it does make it much easier to get informed about the candidates and the issues.  I think my love of politics came from reading the for and against arguments on the ballot measures in my parent's packets when I was a kid.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
Stupid Question I know Marcus
But in these voter info packets CA does what are in them, basically who the candidates are and there positions on the issues? How do you get them. Sorry but this is a first I ever heard a state doing something like that. Sound cool and very informative though.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
I still have my booklet here
It does have brief statements by the parties and candidates, but its real focus is on the propositions.  Each prop will have an "Official Title and Summary" written by the AG that lays out the key changes to existing law in 3-6 bullet points.  Next the Legislative Analyst presents a detailed 1-6 page analysis of the prop, under the sub-headings of Background, Proposal, and Fiscal Effects.  Then the official proponents put forth their 2/3 page "Argument in Favor," and directly underneath the opponents submit their 1/3 page "Rebuttal to Argument in Favor," which are always on a left-hand page.  On the facing right-hand page, you will find the corresponding "Argument Against" and "Rebuttal to Argument Against."  Finally, in the back of the booklet are the full text of the propositions, indicating all passages to be inserted to or deleted from existing law.  The whole shebang is 80 pages!

[ Parent ]
Colorado does this as well
It's League of Women Voters driven and it's called the "Blue Book".  But we don't get candidate positions, only ballot initiatives, judicial recommendations, and the like.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

[ Parent ]
Person wandering into voting booth: "Huh, there are two Senate candidates. Never heard of either of 'em. Eeenie, meenie, minie, moe..."
I do the opposite. In off year eletions when someone is running opposed I always write someone infor kicks. For PA Supreme Court I wrote in my College history teacher and for School Board I wrote three of my teachers from that school and my best friend's mom. What can I say, I get a kick from it.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Apparently if you are running
unopposed in SC, your name is not even on the ballot, which is why some are saying Greene was there to give Rawl a boost by having people vote for him and having him win a primary.  It's that's true, then this was the largest backfire in the history of backfires.

[ Parent ]
Maybe your right, I dont know
But I thought Dem voters were smarter then this. This is now the 2nd time we have voted for a questionable candidate for a statewide office. First Scott Lee Cohen for Lt. Gov in IL and now this.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Don't forget
TX-22, where we voted for Lakesha Rogers who wants to impeach Obama!!

[ Parent ]
Jesus, how could I forget that
Dems voting for a LaRoucheite who wants to impeach Obama in TX-22. That definetly tops Cohen and Greene for sure.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
We've had our fair share of misses, that's
for sure.  I wonder if this usually happens once or twice a cycle.

And I'm pretty sure there was some wack-job in Indiana too, but I can't remember now.  The conversadem who threatened to quit when speaking to a woman's group...


[ Parent ]
It happened to us last year in SC-Sen
With Bob Conley, it's probally happened to the GOP. Also I forgot another blunder on our side: IN-5 when the Democrats nominated Tim Crawford who was a Tenther and believed the government was runned by socialism. Good God with some voters.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
Elliot
Elliot in Arkansas is another example of a miss.

We've basically given away the seat by nominating her.


[ Parent ]
I think were going on the lines of Dems nominating candidates not suitable for public office or in some cases party ideology
But Elliott is a example of how we gave the seat to Tim Griffin just because Robbie Willis was "Racist" because he said Eliott was unelectable. Well see who's right and I bet it won't be Joyce Elliott.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

[ Parent ]
No
she is not a whack job by any means and not in the same platform of the LaRouchie, Greene or Crawford. Yes she will lose but she is at least a serious candidate. While the seat might be gone I can think of at least one positive her being the nominee provides. Increased African American turnout, which will undoubtedly help Lincoln.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Never
Never said she was a wackjob. People were posting seats where we nominated candidates that have no chance of winning the seat, so I mentioned Elliot.

I've always considered a serious candidate to be one that can actually win the seat. Elliot, therefore, to me, is not a serious candidate by any means.


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She's
not electable and I did not support her but she is a leader in the state senate which, I think, qualifies you to be a serious candidate.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Ok
She's a serious candidate for the seat she's currently serving in, but that does not mean she's a serious candidate for any political seat.

Would you consider her a serious candidate if she suddenly announced a run for President, or U.S. Senate?


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Of Course not
No black person could win statewide in AR, sorry if that comes off the wrong way. I'm saying she's serious because she's a state legislator and not some random person selected to take on Griffin. She's unelectable for this district because of her views, her inability to get votes outside of Pulaski County and race may play a part as well.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Were not saying
Elliott is controversial or a whack job candidate like Crawford in Indiana or Cohen in IL. She's certsinly qualfied as she's a prominent state legislator. Were saying she's unelectable because outside of Pulaski County she can't get any votes. That's a problem regarding her.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Also George Mays
our OH-05 regular-election candidate.  Was the only person to file.  Perennial candidate.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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The GOP currently have a transgendered woman (formerly a man)
whose against gay marriage running FL-20.

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Were Bob Kelliher and John Driscoll unopposed?
Also, I just discovered this gem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J... (likely unrelated).

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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From that gem, I clicked a link and found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J...

The 1960 Massachusetts primary involved six John Kennedy's seeking office. John Kennedy of Canton (The State Treasurer) sought the office of Governor. John B. Kennedy of Saugus and John M. Kennedy of Boston both sought the office of state treasurer. John Kennedy of Braintree sought the office of Norfolk county commissioner. Two John Kennedy's (from Everett and Plymouth) both sought seats in the Massachusetts State House [6]. In the State Treasurer's race, Kennedy of Saugus finished third and Kennedy of Boston finished 5th in a six man field. [7]

Talk about voter confusion!


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Had the primaries worked out differently
someone in Mass. could have voted for John Kennedy for President, Governor, Treasurer and County Commissioner all at the same time.

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NC-Sen
Can someone give me a good reason why Menendez doesn't butt the hell out of the runoff, especially since he's funding the candidate who looks very likely to lose it?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


I was wondering when someone would bring that up
My answer is I have no freaking clue. Marshall will win easily, have no idea why he's giving 5k to the likely loser or why he's getting involved at all. What do you think?

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Pretty sure he's always backed
him, so this isn't really a surprise.  Waste of money, yes.  

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Damn right it's a waste of money
That's 5k down the drain and this guy going to defeatville come next week. Dumbass move from Menendez.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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$5k is exactly how much he could be paying me
to work on someone's campaign through November!  That'd pay my rent and credit card bills...

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Oh
Maybe Menendez is trying to prove some type of point by wasting money :)

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Giving money to Alvin Greene would be a waste of money
This is just plain stupidity.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Sure
I'm not disagreeing with you on either point.

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Please drop it
unless you really think that's funny, in which case, oh well. :-)

Menendez is not a member of the union movement; he's leading the DSCC. They're about electing Democrats Senator. Taking sides in a primary (or runoff), especially when he's throwing money away at what looks like a losing campaign, is idiotic and counter to his job responsibilities.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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I smiled, it was a good and witty place for a burn


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Thanks
At least someone has a sense of humor.

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You mean
Has YOUR sense of humor. :-)

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Didn't the DSCC bring Cunningham into the race?
If so, it would be important to provide at least some level of support until he loses.

It's sort of a minor version of how President Obama supported Spector until he lost.

So what Menendez is doing seems pretty minimal.


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Regardless
It's very stupid to throw 5k at a guy everyone knows is going to lose next week, hat's the point were making.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Without such contributions
DSCC recruiting would become more difficult.

(Although given some of their recruits, that's not necessarily a bad thing.)


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Yeah
But we already have two candidates running and polling shows come next week the guy he gave 5k to will lose, not a good way to distribute the fund.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Yeah, Cunningham is going to lose, just like Blanche Lincoln
.. I thought Lincoln was a goner like just about everybody.  But we were all wrong.

The runoff in NC is going to be LOW turnout affair. The expectation that Marshall is a lock, is just the prerequsite for an upset.  I wouldn't count that chicken yet.    

Besides, maybe Menendez thinks, as do I, that Cunningham is the only chance to take this seat. Regardless, it's his money and he can donate it to whoever he wants.  


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Actually I had a feeling Blanche would of prevailed
But I guess well have to wait until tuesday to see who's right. Personally I think Marshall will win but if Cunningham does I won't be too pissed since I have no beef with the man.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Menendez' CoH is $1.4 mil
$5k from that is like $20 for most of us.

I suggest that's almost like an insult to Cunningham. He's upended his life for these months, and all he gets for the runoff is $5k.

Sorta reminds me of the scene near the end of "Goodfellas" where Henry Hill's wife gets a couple of Gs, and is told (implicitly) to go prostitute herself.


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Never thought I would see a Goodfellas comparison in this thread
But hey i'm not complaining since it's my favorite movie. True 5k out of 1.4 million is chunk change politically. I'm not necessarily "Pissed" i'm just scratching my head that's all.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Guys, read the blurb again, it's NOT DSCC money, it's Menendez's own PAC......
Menendez gave him $5K out of his own "leadership" PAC.  Nothing from the DSCC.

And that's smart.  It accomplishes what tietack points out Menendez has to do for a guy he recruited to run, but without wasting DSCC money on a likely runoff loser.

I will say that the fact the DSCC tried to recruit over Marshall makes me worry a little about Marshall, since it means the DSCC might know things we don't.

And that video of Marshall in the debate silently and awkwardly remaining silent for so long in response to a question about federal income tax hikes might just show why.  She comes off as a strong lady and I like what I see in that regard, but you can't struggle on a question like that.  It reminds me of Patricia Madrid who did the same thing a week or two before the 2006 election against Heather Wilson, and Madrid imploded as a direct result of it.  A U.S. Senate candidate must answer tough questions smoothly.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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SC-Sen(D) primary: different results in primary vs. election day easily explainable......
I think very simply the people who voted absentee are more committed and higher information voters.  They got their ballots in advance and took time to find out who the candidates are, or had already done so beforehand.  So they knew Rawls was the anointed guy and Greene was some guy they never heard of, and they voted for Rawls.

Primary day voters were lower-information and showed up not knowing who the candidates were.  The Governor's primary and downballot stuff drove turnout, and the Senate race was purely incidental on their ballots.

I agree with Tom Jensen that on voting behavior, Rawls just had no name recognition.

Ultimately Greene is Rawls' fault for failing to do any campaigning.  Rawls raised only $186K, which is nothing, and could not have done any voter contact.  Very poor job by Rawls, and it caused the state party embarrassment.

The question of why Greene filed for a U.S. Senate run is more bizarre.  I'm not sure "Some Dude" fully explains it because even "Some Dude" has a reason for running, and Greene still hasn't given one.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


Survey USA about Oregon, so predictable.
After see the last poll of Survey USA about New Mexico gubernatorial race giving to Susana Martinez the lead in the race I comment here:

http://www.swingstateproject.c...

This seems not casual

WA-Sen, MN-Gov, NM-Gov... all these are races with very few no-Rasmussen polls before the Survey USA poll. And all the polls give results extremely bad for democratic side. This follow a clear line of work.
What race will be the next? VT-Gov? OR-Gov? OR-Sen? IN-Sen? DE-Sen?

by: abgin @ Thu May 27, 2010 at 12:03 PM EDT
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Too early to say

WA-Sen was an outlier that neither campaign bought. Rasmussen actually has Denish doing better. And they can't poll MN for toffee.

by: conspiracy @ Thu May 27, 2010 at 12:56 PM EDT
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I include too the answer of conspiracy.

Well, this poll whas so predictable, and the result too. The next? maybe ME-Gov? VT-Gov? They are the races what can be competitive with lowest number non-Rasmussen polls. IN-Sen and DE-Sen are too with low noumber of polls.

This Survey USA poll seems a manipulation again.


I'm starting to lean the other way now
Starting to become too many to be a coincidence or bad polling. I remember disregarding the SurveyUSA in VA that first showed a McDonnell blowout. Given the source I'm becoming slighty more uncomfortable.

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I think the selection of the states for give this outsider polls is not casual

The way is predictable. Just republicans are emerging in the states with lowest number of no-Rasmussen polls? I buy not that. The next polls for WA-Sen and MN-Gov confirm the SurveyUSA poll give an outsider result. I think we will see the same for NM and Oregon.


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Like Conspiracy said
They were the first pollster to show McDonnell crushing Deeds. No one believed it at the time. In July they had correctly predicted the race.  

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