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SSP Daily Digest: 6/9

by: Crisitunity

Wed Jun 09, 2010 at 5:20 PM EDT


AR-Sen: As predicted, labor doesn't look like it's going to kiss and make up with Blanche Lincoln. The SEIU says it won't back Lincoln in November, if nothing else, seeing as how they have races with better odds elsewhere that they need to deal with. PPP's Tom Jensen reinforces that point in a piece entitled "Write Off Lincoln," listing a handful of total sleeper races where the polls have been better for Dems than Arkansas.

CT-Sen: Campaigns don't usually release internal polls showing them down by 13 points, but when all the public pollsters are showing you down by more than 20 after your blockbuster move failed and it's a last ditch effort to get contributors to not write you off, I suppose it makes sense. A Moore Information poll finds Linda McMahon trailing Richard Blumethal "only" 51-38.

IL-Sen: Glad to see that the mainstream environmental groups are starting to see the big picture of how Washington works instead of reflexively endorsing moderate Republicans who occasionally pantomime throwing them a bone (see also Reichert, Dave). The Sierra Club and League of Conservation Voters, who've backed Mark Kirk in the past in his House races, will be going with Alexi Giannoulias instead this year.

NH-Sen: This seemed more like a cry for attention than a well-thought-out campaign pre-announcement when it happened last week. So it's not surprising to hear that whistleblower/former state Securities chief Mark Connolly, after floating his name last week, has decided against running against Paul Hodes in the Dem Senate primary. (The same link also has a list of filings for New Hampshire's state Senate... although Blue Hampshire has that data in helpful table form. Most notable: a troubling Dem-held open seat in a R+4 district.)

SC-Sen: That didn't take long at all, for the Democrats' baffling new Senatorial nominee, Alvin Greene, to slide into Scott Lee Cohen territory. With revelations this morning that he's facing felony obscenity charges, the state party is calling on Greene to drop out of the race. Mother Jones has some more detail on Greene that really plumbs the depths of his sheer unpreparedness for what he's gotten himself into. I have no idea whether he's a GOP plant (who got fronted the $10K filing fee to be a speed bump for Vic Rawl and wound up winning instead) or just a naif who accidentally wandered into the corridors of power, "Being There"-style, but either way, it makes for a great story.

AL-Gov: It's official; Robert Bentley finished in 2nd place in the GOP gubernatorial primary, earning him a spot in the primary, and, as expected, Tim James will file for a recount. AG Troy King just issued an AG opinion clarifying the whole issue of whether an automatic recount applies here: no, it doesn't apply to primaries, so James is responsible for the cost of the recount himself. James still plans to do it, though, despite the cost of at least $300K.

MI-Gov: Republican AG Mike Cox got endorsements from two key GOP power brokers: from the state Chamber of Commerce, and also from Dick and Betsy DeVos. I was a little surprised that the Grand Rapids-based Amway cult leaders didn't go with their in-house western Michigan U.S. Rep., Pete Hoekstra, but Hoekstra claims not to be surprised, probably suggestive of some interpersonal tension with the DeVos family.

MN-Gov: Here's one more place the SEIU won't get involved: the DFL gubernatorial primary in Minnesota. All three contenders seem to be friendly with labor, so the SEIU didn't seem to want to play favorites in a field that's basically a tossup.

OR-Gov: Now this is odd... while Oregon has a rather New England-influenced politics, there's no track record of quirky moderate independents running and winning there. Nevertheless, prominent local attorney John DiLorenzo is reporting a $150K loan from himself to his exploratory committee, in apparent preparation for a gubernatorial run.

SC-Gov: I don't think the RGA could tip its hand any further than it did last night, all but endorsing Nikki Haley, who still has to get past a runoff against Gresham Barrett, saying "the voters made a clear choice" and "the outcome is certain." Barrett, for his part, is brushing that off and continuing to fight on.

VT-Gov: You may remember Anthony Pollina, who ran as a Progressive and then independent in several gubernatorial races, going as far as to finish 2nd in 2008. Good news for Vermont Dems: Pollina isn't making a third-party bid, or even running for governor at all this year; instead, he's running for a state Senate seat. Also, it sounds like the local Dems and Progressives are getting smarter about not canceling each other out, as they plan to avail themselves more of "fusion voting" this year. (H/t terje; the whole comment is well worth a read.)

AR-01: With the ink barely dry on Chad Causey's victory in the Dem runoff, the Rick Crawford campaign released an internal poll showing them with a lead over Causey. The poll by POS gives the GOP nominee a 40-34 lead. While the district has a strong Dem tradition, Obama's 54% disapproval in the district gives Crawford an opening.

IN-03: There's a tally of 15 different Republicans seeking the GOP nod for the special election to replace the recently-resigned Mark Souder; the local GOP will meet on Saturday to choose somebody. The most prominent name is state Sen. Marlin Stutzman, who recently lost the IN-Sen primary, but the list also includes IN-03 primary loser Bob Thomas, two state Reps., Randy Borror and Wes Culver, and even a local TV anchor, Ryan Elijah.

IN-09: Biden alert! The fundraiser-in-chief has added Baron Hill to his list of beneficiaries, and will be appearing on his behalf in Jeffersonville on June 28.

PA-12: For his rematch against now-Rep. Mark Critz, Tim Burns is going to try a different campaign manager. Having lost by 9 in the special after seeming to lose the ground war, he parted ways with former chief Tadd Rupp.

NRSC: John Cornyn admits that the NRSC's wide playing field this November isn't all good news, because their limited resources (currently $17.1 million) will be stretched thin. Somewhere Dino Rossi is thinking "Now he tells me..."

Polltopia: Maybe the biggest story that people are following today is the quick decision, in the wake of the AR-Sen runoff polls (as well as MA-Sen, PA-12, and the AL-Gov D primary...), by Daily Kos to part ways with hired pollster Research 2000. However, Markos says the decision was more based on 538's aggregate pollster ratings than any one poll. There's no word yet on which pollster will be wearing the orange in the future. Mark Blumenthal has more on the decision, including R2K head Del Ali's response.

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Why should Lincoln need any labor money?
I'm sure her friends in the Chamber of Commerce will show the exact same enthusiasm for her in the general that they showed for her in the primary.

But seriously one reason I wanted her to lose besides the fact that she had no shot of winning the general is that because she is an incumbent this race will in all probability become a black hole the DSCC will be forced to send money to.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


oh man, your last point about the DSCC
is so worrisome.
So on the way to her defeat in the fall, will Lincoln wind contibuting to the loss of other Senate seats in close races  due to the DSCC blowing a big part of their wad in AR?
e.g. CO, PA, IL, OH, etc

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Labor would lose all credibility
if they turned around and backed her.  It would be ten times worse than the empty threats progressives in the house made regarding the public option.

Unlike most people, I'm writing Lincoln off in the general.  Her chair of the Ag committee and her strength in CDs 1 and 2 should not be underestimated.  I'm not saying she'll win, but she's not as long of a long shot as a lot of people think.


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Don't you mean you are NOT writing Lincoln off
A typo in your comment.

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CT-Sen
I'm pretty sure someone who has limited contributions to $100 and is self-funding $50 million doesn't need to get donors to not write her off.  

Short Term Suprise Prediction: AR-Sen
There will be a non-Rassmusen poll, possibly in the next couple of weeks, showing Lincoln within 10 of Boozman, and pundits will be talking about "Hope for Blanche".

I think it will be a false hope, but that may depend in part on Bill Clinton's willingness to go back on the campaign trail.


This ties in to the first post
by Taget above.
If polls do show Lincoln staying around 10 points close throughout the summer and fall, the DSCC may well be required to throw their money down a black hole defending her seat.
Maybe if the poll numbers go bad on her, the DSCC can somewhat resist that pressure.

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or if she continues to raise millions of dollars
the DSCC won't need to pour money into her

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Dude, the DSCC is smart, they don't throw away their money......
They'll poll the race privately, almost certainly more than once, and they'll watch and see what fundraising Lincoln can do on her own.  And if she isn't raising money and private polling isn't showing her closing the gap, the DSCC will let her hang out to dry.  They have a large playing field to defend, they are smart, and they've proven that over several cycles in a row now.

Remember all the DSCC ads in the primary?  Me neither.  Because there weren't any.  They made Lincoln win without DSCC help.  Maybe OFA gave some GOTV help, I vaguely recall that might have happened, but it wouldn't have been a big investment or one with any more than a minimal cost.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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I'm thinking Ras *won't* insta-poll
Because he doesn't want to show Lincoln far behind.  he wants to make it seem she has a chance, to encourage money being dumped in here.

I wouldn't mind seeing a real pollster take a look now that the runoff is over.


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Won't he just give her one of his bounces?


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I think the DSCC and other Dem groups
see Rasmussen the same way that people here or on dKos do, and take anything that comes out as a bogus poll.

They aren't going to take his polls seriously.


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NO ONE takes Rasmussen seriously in either party's establishment, and...
...as Chuck Todd once smartly tweeted a few months ago, if Rasmussen's methodology was good, campaigns would use it (especially since it's cheaper than live callers).  They don't.

Republicans will cite Rasmussen polls for messaging purposes, but they never rely on Rasmussen or mimic its methodology in their own campaign polling.

And yes, Democrats discount Rasmussen completely.

Parties and candidates just don't rely on any public polls except as a check against their own private polling, and they trust their private polling above all else if it at least doesn't seem too out of whack.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Carly Fiorina caught open-mic bashing Sean Hannity
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo...

Heh. Who knows, that might actually help in California.

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LOL
the GOP Senate nominee talking crap about the GOP Governor nominee. 2 years and Carly has learned jack about staying on message. I love it!

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Too funny
Hey, at least this time she did it when the camera was supposed to be off. It was still funny though. She's right though, Hannity is not an easy interview. He NEVER shuts up. He doesn't listen to what your saying, he just keeps talking and talking. He loves to hear himself talk. It is SO annoying to watch, I can't imagine being the person being interviewed.  

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Yup
Ever notice the tilted head thing too? Man, that guy is an ass. And that has very little to do with his politics.

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Heh, I kind of agree
I think if you asked a broad cross-section of politicians (e.g., Palin, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, McCain, any Republican), they'd all say that Greta Van Susteran is the best interviewer.  She lets you get your message out and she will always provide you with one or two questions that make you seem very sympathetic.

I'm surprised that so many on the left take issue with Van Susteran considering that the actual Democrat politicians seem to have very little issue with her and even seem to like talking to her.


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Even O'Reilly lets his guests speak
Most of the time!

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Right on schedule
The FAILorina gaffe machine rolls on....although I actually agree with Fiorina here--it was dumb for Whitman's first post-win interview to be on Fox News, especially Hannity. You're trying to win California, Meg, not Alabama. However, Fiorina should not be the one saying that ... especially on camera.

Btw, it is such a tacky move to insult someone's hairstyle (especially a fellow female candidate whose hair is actually pretty cute), especially when you've been given a free-bad-hair pass on account of chemotherapy.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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I agree that it was a stupid comment
It makes her seem small to make fun of another woman's hair.  I'm surprised Boxer doesn't appear to be making a big deal about this.

But lucky for her, the Fox News comment is getting the publicity.  But doesn't her comment go against the liberal narrative about Hannity?  That he's a "tough" interview for Republicans?  She was criticizing Fox for being too tough.


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Boxer might stick it on to an ad
in the same tone as Fiorina's last ad.

"When the country is trying to solve big problems, all Carly cares is about my hair."


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No way
There is absolutely nothing Boxer can say that won't sound petty and make this about her response.  The comments speak for themselves.  (And while petty, they're not going to impact the race.  This isn't a macaca moment.)

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Yeah
Dangerous territory with the chemo factor. There are more important things for Boxer to run on.

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For Boxer to comment on this at all
would be undignified.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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She wasn't supposed to be on camera though
She was waiting for the interview to begin, the camera should have been off. She didn't know though. IDK if the Boxer hair thing was serious, a joke, or a reference to her hair.  

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Yes, I think that should be a rule
When two women are running against each other, hair should be off-limits. Also off-limits should be children, clothing (flag pins, or lack thereof, included), God and makeup. And I would like three of those ground rules of mildly improved political discourse to apply to male candidates, also. You can guess which three.    /half-joke

That said, GOPVOTER makes an excellent point--if Fiorina wasn't told the camera was rolling, this is actual lamestream "gotcha" journalism on CNN's part... and real naivete from Fiorina's otherwise-heroic press person. (heroic because he or she has kept Fiorina in it this long and helped her to an impressively decisive primary victory). As we all know, if there are cameras and/or journalists within 50 feet of you, assume you are on camera and being recorded at all times. Honestly, unnamed press person, that was an unforced error right there.

As for Boxer's response, in the articles I've read about it, Boxer's response sticks to the "jobs" theme--as in, Carly Fiorina kills 'em and my climate bill builds 'em.  Boxer's is definitely a workable strategy in these times for California, methinks.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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Oregon
Now this is odd... while Oregon has a rather New England-influenced politics, there's no track record of quirky moderate independents running and winning there.

aside from 1930. ;D


You'd think
that as a product of Oregon public schools I would have had instant recall of Julius Meier, but I don't recall much discussion of historic governors. I do recall doing lots of back-to-school shopping at his eponymous chain of department stores though.

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NV Voter registration
How big is the Dem edge in NV? In the Senate primary, 116,005 Democrats voted, in the Rep primary, 175,656 people voted. Also, does the fact that 11% voted none in the Dem primary look bad for Reid?  

Dem advantage is 43-35
but with the lack of competitive Dem primaries, I wouldn't place too much emphasis on the difference in turnout.

the 11% NOTA vote is bad, I think, but we already knew that Reid was in trouble and I don't think that was completely unexpected.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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POS polling
They are the most prolific of GOP internal pollsters and according to Nate one of the worst in the country bar none. But then we knew that already!

The penultimate story about POS is from 2008 and was never discussed in the media......
The entire media and blogosphere seems to have had collective amnesia or perhaps didn't care in the first instance when this happened, but in 2008 Glenn McInturff of POS was McCain's top pollster and, for months, produced polling showing McCain more competitive in Iowa and Pennsylvania than any public polling supported.  Same in New Mexico.  So McCain was traveling to Iowa and New Mexico and left me, and quite a few in the political media, puzzled.

A week out from the election, McInturff's polling showed McCain down only one point in Iowa, and similarly close in Pennsylvania.  McInturff got challenged on this and insisted his methodology was sound, that his turnout model even used census-plus-one for black turnout to represent elevated black turnout for Obama.  And 5 days out, McCain advisor and Republican celebrity Charlie Black said point blank that McCain "would probably win Iowa and Pennsylvania."  I didn't take it as dishonest spin at the time because they claimed real polling supporting McCain momentum in those states.

And, of course, Obama went on to win both states by 10 points.  Iowa ended up slightly closer than most public polling showed, but 10 points is still a big margin.  And Pennsylvania actually was a bigger blowout than the last week of public polling showed, because public polls did show a tightening in the last week from mid-double digits to high single-digits.  But in both cases McCain's polling was complete shit.

All this was forgotten after the election, and McInturff was never called out on it.  The luster of Obama's win overwhelmed everything.  But I never forgot, and I've filed away that bit of history as a reminder everytime I see a POS poll since then.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Even though I'm rooting for Haley
I don't blame Barrett for not dropping out.  He has a compelling bio that will play very well with South Carolina Republicans as a military man.

He's likely going to pick up nearly everyone who didn't vote for Haley the first time.  The last Public Policy Polling poll showed her favorable numbers weren't that great among Republican primary voters.  Rasmussen showed that she's less  popular with Republican voters than Angle and Fiorina are with Republican voters.

I see Haley winning the runoff by around twelve points.


I hate to say it...
...but part of that could be the fact that she's a woman born of Indian parents. While there should be no place for it, there is still a tad bit of racism and sexism not just in South Carolina, but in almost every state. Out of all the Republicans, she appears to be the best candidate, but you can't help but think that there may be some of that still there. Hell, wasn't it a South Carolina lawmaker, and even a fellow Republican, who was calling Haley all sorts of bad things?  

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)

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If Barrett somehow wins the runoff
There's going to be a LOT of unhappy Republican primary voters.  I think it's plausible that because of the kitchen sinks thrown at her and because of the nastiness/horror that is the SC GOP, maybe a large bunch of her supporters will either not turn out at all in November or support Sheheen.  Sheheen would have a great chance to steal this one if Barrett squeezes through.  

Of course, that's extremely unlikely.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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If Barrett pulls it off...
I move the race from Likely R to Toss-Up, on account that most of Haley's supporters will probably be so pissed they would not only not vote, they'd probably hire Sarah Palin and they'd all do a march through South Carolina tearing down every stare and federal building in sight.

That may be a BIT dramatic, but it would be an explosion of epic proportions. I don't see it happening. 90% chance Nikki Haley is the next governor of South Carolina.

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)


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I'd put a BOATLOAD of cash on it
If she loses, I'd have to give up my car, but I think it's an extremely high possibility.

Now, if these extramarital affairs start to gain some legs, which they haven't, then it's a different set of circumstances. I see the only way Nikki Haley loses right now is if Hillary Clinton comes out and announces that she had an affair with Nikki Haley in exchange for Haley voting for Universal Health Care.

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)


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She is the box seat certainly
But too many variables out there for me to say any more than leans right now.

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I'd be extremely pissed
Especially with Barrett taking a hidden shot at Haley in his new ad saying "Christian family man who won't embarrass us" Its a shot at Haley's fake affairs and Sanford.  

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What's wrong with a shot at Sanford
That guy is an asshole, along with Vitter and Ensign, are hypocritical immoral degenerates.  They should all have resigned after their disgusting behavior.  At least Souder and Spitzer had some decency in this regard.  


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Nothing really
But I think it was aimed more at Haley, considering she is his opponent, and has ties to Sanford.  

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I heard on NPR
that you have to have voted in the primary in order to vote in the runoff in SC. That seems ridiculous to me, but it also means that it would be almost impossible to beat Haley.

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Lincoln and Halter showed us
that not that much changes in 3 weeks, let alone 2. if Barrett wins it might be even bigger than Sparks' victory over Artur Davis.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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SC-Sen, Alvin Greene
We dodged a bullet back in Indiana when after Senator Bayh there was like a 1 or 2 day envelope just before the filing deadline when that crazy cafe owner lady would have been our Senate candidate if she had managed to have collected enough signatures.
But we got nailed here in SC.

For some reason, this vaguely reminds me of the final couple of episodes of the Cheers sitcom, where barkeep Woody just kind of accidentally won an election to the Boston City Council against a long-term incumbent.

But don't expect the same outcome for Mr. Greene against DeMint.


Environmental groups
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment but isn't there a case for unions to follow that lead in the case of Zach Space for instance?

Re: The polltopia item
I'm actually willing to forgive R2K for MA-Sen. It was off but technically it was within the MoE. and I do appreciate that R2K polled the AR runoff when no one else would. Even so, changing pollsters might be a good idea.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


Great post from Nate
Pollsters should really think hard before taking him on.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com...


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Glad he responded.
Also gald he fleshed out the R2K thing.  While I cannot pretend to understand it all, it certainly makes Kos' decision look much more reasonable, and less reactionary to last night (of course, Kos said this was the case, but it still looked funny).

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Geez, that's brutal
I admit that I had growing suspicions of R2K, but they really were the Democratic Rasmussen.

In a way though, I still disagree with Kos's decision (and why I'm less hard on Rasmussen than others). I think R2K and Rasmussen are good indicators of best and worse case scenarios respectively. And thus, they are probably good reflections of internal polling. So I think they serve a useful purpose.


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Maybe
But their purpose doesn't seem to be predictive. Impressive response by Nate.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Despite of Nate's ratings, I don't agree R2K is so bad......
I look at the totality of polling, and I look for corroboration between polls, as well as corroboration from whatever other non-polling tidbits I can find on a race.  And Research 2000's polling for DailyKos wasn't bad at all, on the contrary it was consistent with other polling.  Where it was off, even way off, it still wasn't any different from other polls.

People point to AL-Gov(D) where Kos/R2K had Davis up, but Sparks' own internal polling showed him down 42-41 a week or two out.  Everyone seems to forget that and just blames Kos/R2K, but that's not remotely accurate.  No one saw the Sparks blowout coming, including Sparks.

People now point to the AR-Sen(D) runoff, but again, the Kos/R2K polling was exactly in line with private polling as revealed by Chuck Todd and Marc Ambinder in their Twitter feeds and blog posts.  As soon as the DailyKos poll came out, Chuck Todd tweeted that it was consistent with "some private polls."  And that information was corroborated more fervently the last few days before the runoff.  Indeed, Lincoln's own people were despondently leaking that they could see up to a 10-point loss coming, if "pro-insurgent" voting followed the recent trend around the country and resulted in Halter outperforming his polling.  Halter's people concurred.

The most salient thing I saw from Nate's quotes in his discussions with Markos is that there's not such a huge difference between these pollsters, they're all basically in the same ballpark.  The differences are small.

I don't dismiss that there have been some R2K polls that have showed a Democratic bias that I had to question, but it was a very small one, and in particular comparing R2K with Rasmussen is stupid.  R2K is far more methodologically sound than Rasmussen and doesn't have anywhere near the massive outliers and volatility that Rasmussen produces.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10


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Dave's Redistricting App
Now has political data for North Carolina's precincts. You DON'T need to click the "Use Test Data" box as must be done with Texas, NY and California political data, just use the voting districts format. Maybe David/James/Crisitunity, you could mention this in the Daily Digest tomorrow as I don't know how many people will see this comment.

Wonderful, wonderful news!
...except for the fact that I still have one more paper to write.

Thanks, DRA team!

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Thune has an opponent, in 2014
Nick Severson, a recent graduate at the University of South Dakota just lost his bid for mayor of Vermillion, the college's town.  One of the main reasons for his defeat was being caught with pot.  now he says he'll run against Thune as an indie come 2014.

http://www.siouxcityjournal.co...

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.


typo, i meant 2016


Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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Alvin Greene syndrome


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Clearly he made the comments
when he was high.

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I
really hope Daily Kos get's PPP since R2K is getting the ax. I trust them above all else.


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

Me too
Sure, they struggled in 2 special house races, but one of those just was NOT normal! They nailed all the statewide races since NJ and VA Gov. They nailed the SC-Gov primary, putting Haley at 43 (she won 49), Barrett at 23 (22), McMaster at 16 (17) and Bauer at 12 (12). Pretty good.  

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don't forget MA-Sen
they totally owned the crap out of that one.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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PPP poll choices
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
Its between LA and Wisconsin now. If you want LA, vote now and often!!

For a second, I thought you meant
PPP was having a runoff, which would have been weird. but wow, LA is a lot closer to WI than it was when I voted. I guess it helps that the oil spill is in the news and people want to see voters' attitudes.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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If you voted early
It was. Then the link was put in the daily digest here and LA surged. Then, Neumann supporters saw LA was winning and hijacked it. LA was trailing by 25 votes when I posted that just now. If they hijack the poll, I rejack it. Just like when they put a Paul on the poll, Neumann's supporters got themselves all wet for a poll showing he only trails by 10.  

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There, voted for LA.
But only because I want someone else besides Rasmussen to poll the Senate race for once.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!


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SC-runoff
Candidates in runoffs for House races had 2 days to fundraise before their FEC Reports are due. The pre-runoff reports are due today.  

You guys aren't like this huh?
I called out some Liberals on Twitter for saying Carly Fiorina had a lesbian hair cut and informed them of her cancer. So, they respond by calling me gay and blaming me for Arnold and CA's problems. "ha ha! I am republican you fuck! Kiss my black ass you faggot. I only mean it figuratively. So don't get Roy Ashburn on me." (doubt he's a Republican, not a very good person, has swastika in his avatar), "ou are the reason Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor and fucked California over.", "you're from Louisiana? Drill baby Drill! Stupid hardcore right wing repressed homos talking shit about guns and god made BP."
Such good people! Funny how both people gave me such similar responses, another said he was a Republican.  

Don't sweat it too much
There are assholes of all political persuasions. I got called a "Nazi" in an email by one friend of a FB friend for criticizing the Netanyahu government in Israel - and I'm Jewish, too, which makes her crazy insult even worse (I blocked and reported her).

A good sleep will probably help this crap roll off your back.

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And on this very site
I got called a DINO by a dude named Rock n Roller when I asked how the establishment was preventing Brunner from raising more funds. Fortunately, Rock n Roller is now in Bansville.

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Only "DINO"????
i was called "bigot" on dKos after expressing some doubts about "gay marriage". In fact i am absolutely for civil unions with all possible judicial guarantees, but have philological doubts, that the very word "marriage", which for thouthands years meant "different-sex unions", needs to be used in this situation. That alone was more then enough))))

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dKos is rough
I'm anti-immigration (not just anti-illegal immigration) and very pro-Israel, pro war with Iran and anti-Islamic radicalism.  Guess how that plays there.  


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I tried, but my imagination failed)))


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Not sure what you were expecting
While there is absolutely a diversity of opinion there, there is still a common thread running though a vast majority of the users.  Admittedly, many don't have proper restraint, but you're still talking about some positions that are pretty cotroversal there.

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Many on dKos are just crazy
They are obsessed with issues that the country could care less about, extreme anti-Israel, civil liberties for terrorists, etc.  I dropped arguing with them pretty quickly.  And I didn't even bring up another issue that I would run into trouble there, enhanced interrogations.

I go there because they have a good number of pro-labor and pro-reproductive freedom diaries that I found interesting.


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A lot of people avoid Israel/Palestine discussions on DailyKos
because they often degenerate very quickly into yelling and screaming from both sides. You can, too.

(Incidentally, having participated in some recent threads, I don't agree that the consensus is "extreme anti-Israel." I would say that most people coalesce around a critical but not extremist attitude. Of course, since I am also highly critical of the Netanyahu government's policies and competence in executing them, I would view "extremism" differently from you, which is OK. No reason people should agree on everything.)

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I basically avoid them now
but I don't think it is a healthy debate when basically any pro-Israel or pro-action-against-Iran comment gets troll rated by a few jihad sympathizers who are intolerant of any dissent.  And my latter statement is not an exaggeration, there are several at dKos who have endorsed Hamas and its methods, and endorsed the idea that Israel shouldn't exist.

But I guess I should stop going down this road now.


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Sigh.
I would so love to debate that with you, without name calling, but this is not the place.

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Yes, pure political (not electoral) discussions are not welcome here)))


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I don't have sympathy with you on that
But this is NOT the place to debate the merits of allowing only heterosexuals to marry.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Exactly what i said, while giving this example


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Ah well
People from all sides write crap on the internet.  When you are anonymous, it is much easier to write things that you'd never say in public.


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This is good
Were all getting our feelings out.  

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Are you sure they're liberals?
maybe it's because I'm gay and so my group of friends just naturally happens to be people who don't talk like they're in a Lil Jon music video, but uh, yeah...no liberals I know use language like that.

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