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CA-Gov, CA-Sen: Whitman, Fiorina Lead Primary, Trail in General

by: Crisitunity

Mon May 31, 2010 at 12:25 PM EDT


Greenberg Quinlan Rosner/American Viewpoint for the Los Angeles Times and University of Southern California (5/19-26, likely voters for primary, registered voters for general, 3/20-23 in parentheses):

Carly Fiorina (R): 38 (25)
Tom Campbell (R): 23 (29)
Chuck DeVore (R): 16 (9)
(MoE: ±4.5%)

Barbara Boxer (D-inc): 44
Carly Fiorina (R): 38

Barbara Boxer (D-inc): 38
Tom Campbell (R): 45

Barbara Boxer (D-inc): 46
Chuck DeVore (R): 36
(MoE: ±2.6%)

Meg Whitman (R): 53 (60)
Steve Poizner (R): 29 (20)
(MoE: ±4.5%)

Jerry Brown (D): 44 (41)
Meg Whitman (R): 38 (44)

Jerry Brown (D): 45 (53)
Steve Poizner (R): 31 (22)
(MoE: ±2.6%)

Here's one more poll confirming the last-minute surge for Carly Fiorina in the GOP Senate primary, which seems to have advertising disparities at its root: trailing by 4 in the late March LA Times/USC poll, she's now up by 15. The previous poll only tested "Generic Republican" in the primary, and today's results show why that was kind of silly, given the very different candidate profiles: Tom Campbell beats Barbara Boxer while Fiorina loses (I don't think any other poll has had such a Campbell/Fiorina disparity in the general, though, and PPP went the opposite direction the other week, where Fiorina performed the best against Boxer).

On the gubernatorial side, this poll is remarkably right in line with other recent polls showing Meg Whitman's big lead in the primary (50-29 Pollster average today) and Jerry Brown's smaller lead over Whitman in November (46-39 Pollster average today).

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PPP was an outlier
Campbell has performed better against Boxer in most polls.  

I think what these numbers reflect are... Carly's moderately negative ads promote her while tearing down Boxer.  This lessens Boxer's numbers against Campbell, but does little to help her numbers.  

At the same time, the far higher profile has vaulted her way ahead of Campbell... but this support is as squishy and thin as support can get -- many of these people would be supporting Campbell if they had seen commercials by him instead.

If Campbell has the money for commercials the last five days, he could have a shot, but lets hope note.  Carly is at her peak right now (zilch negative ads aimed at her lame resume) and has no real shot against Boxer.


Prop 14 with a big lead.
Prop 14 (Top Two primary) is up 52-28. Second recent poll that shows it likely to pass.  

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

Has
there been any polls done on Prop 16 which is basically a power grab by PG&E (our power company in California). I pray that it'll get defeated but I have a bad feeling that it'll pass because Californians are stupid enough to be swayed by $42 million of PG&E money going into tv ads and mailers and there is no organized opposition pushing back.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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I have not seen any


"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

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My parents got a beautiful full color mailer with pictures of sunflowers and windmills
It was full of lies and distortion about the evils of public power, of course.  I wouldn't be surprised if it passed by a large margin.  There is no organized opposition to speak of and if most voters only hear one side of the story they won't make a well informed decision.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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the California polling is very weird
Are these pollsters using very different methodologies? The IA-Gov and IA-Sen polls have been more consistent in terms of which challenger does the best against the incumbent.

Looking to the poll
Boxer 38
Campbell 45

seems like a mistake, but the report of Greenberg tell that. Would be more logical Boxer 45 Campbell 38 looking to all other results.



That was my thought
A switching error like the mods here sometimes make. I mean Campbell usually polls better but not to this degree.

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I think can be a mistake
I read not all the report of Greenberg but I see not reference to this and this would be sign of something is wrong here. If the report talk not about Campbell leading Boxer as a big result of this poll, surely this can be a mistake.

Would not be the first time what I see mistakes in the reports of polls.

When Campbell was better than Fiorina and DeVore in the polls for the general, he was leading the primaries in the republican side. Would be so logical he down in the general when he loses the lead in the primary.


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Low-info voters & propositions
I talked to my right-leaning centrist, decline-to-state brother, who will be taking a Republican ballot this year primarily so he can vote against Meg Whitman. Mostly, he just wants to screw with Republicans this year, so he'll also now be voting against Steve Cooley... but it was hard to advise him on who to vote for in the Senate contest, since all the candidates are flawed. (Campbell=no money, Fiorina=gaffes, DeVore=too conservative)

But he hadn't seen either Demon Sheep or Chuck DeVore's 24 ad and said he'd probably vote for whomever's ad was worse....which I'll guess will mean Fiorina.

That said, he's the sort of low-information voter that PG&E would target, but even he was like "I should vote against that power prop, right? Seems like a pretty blatant power grab by PG&E..." Here's to hoping that even this piece of info gets through to low-information voters.

Also, I remember reading, (but can't find the study) that most voters, when they don't know anything about a proposition, they'll usually vote no on any given prop. Can anyone back me up or refute me on this?  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.



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