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NV-Sen: Lowden Fading in Primary, General

by: James L.

Fri May 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM EDT


Mason-Dixon for the Las Vegas Review-Journal (5/24-26, likely voters, 5/10-11 in parens):

Sue Lowden (R): 30 (30)
Sharron Angle (R): 29 (25)
Danny Tarkanian (R): 23 (22)
Other: 7 (5)
None: 3 (n/a)
Undecided: 8 (18)
(MoE: ±4%)

Get a load of that trend line for ex-Assemblywoman Sharron Angle, who was mostly a footnote in this race until Lowden started to implode with her poultry obsession. Still, I have to wonder if Lowden and Angle will go nuclear on each other in the remaining week and a half, potentially giving ex-SoS candidate Danny Tarkanian a chance to pull an Alice Kryzan-style victory.

Meanwhile, here are the general election numbers (4/13-14 in parens, 4/5-7 in brackets, 2/22-24 in italicized brackets):

Harry Reid (D-inc): 39 (37)
Sue Lowden (R): 42 (47)
Other: 3 (5)
None: 6 (3)
Undecided: 10 (8)

Harry Reid (D-inc): 42 [42]
Sharron Angle (R): 39 [44]
Other: 5 [n/a]
None: 4 [n/a]
Undecided: 10 [14]

Harry Reid (D-inc): 41 [39]
Danny Tarkanian (R): 42 [39]
Other: 4 [11]
None: 3 [n/a]
Undecided: 10 [11]
(MoE: ±4%)

The trend lines are an absolute mess. It seems that the LVRJ has not exactly been consistent in including the three major Republicans against Reid in each round of their polling. They haven't tested Angle in a general election poll since February, and only went with Lowden in their mid-April poll.

Still, it does show that Reid may have a ghost of a chance, particularly against Angle, who seems like a treasure trove for opposition researchers. But whether it's Angle or Lowden, his best hope may be to push as many voters as possible into the "none of the above" camp -- which, as you know, is an actual ballot choice in Nevada.

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Wow... leave it to the Nevada Republican party to give Reid a fighting chance
Seriously, a half-way decent candidate would've probably been able to win this race.

This actually makes me feel just a little bit better about Kentucky in '08, at least we're not the only ones who can screw up a good opportunity...

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


What
a band of idiots lined up to go against Reid. I was surprised that John Porter or Dean Heller didn't go up against Reid when they saw that he was DOA like John Boozman did with Blanche Lincoln.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

[ Parent ]
They probably didn't want to compete with his money
Or they enjoy him being the soft dem leader he is.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

[ Parent ]
Oh look
the Chicken Lady opens fire on Sharon Angle. She has three attack ads against Angle but this ad is really hilarious....like Sue Lowden's campaign bawk bawk.



19, Male, Independent, CA-12


Can you say
I'm Sharron Angle and I approve of this massage.

[ Parent ]
Oh my god, the photo of Tom Cruise!
I laughed so hard.

[ Parent ]
That was a nice touch
And OMG was that a hilariously awful ad. I LOVED the soft-focus, though.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

[ Parent ]
it wasn't terrible....
But I mean, there is probably a million ways to make that look better.  And I've never been the fan of those type of ads where they have like some weird other scene that has nothing to do with politics and its just out of nowhere, oh this is a political ad?  I always find that weird and usually not workable.

[ Parent ]
oh, and this video is exactly why
It comes off too cheesy because people usually overdo made up scenes.

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Sorry Sue, not as "good" as the Demon Sheep ad
from that lady the next state over. Keep trying.
(But I suppose if Fiorina wins on June 8 she'll have the last laugh WRT that ad).

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I don't know
I thought it was pretty epic, myself.

23, Male, PA-05 (summer) PA-12 (winter)

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All of a sudden Tark seems scary
Hopefully one of the two nutty choices wins, although any chance of Angle being a Senator is a "cry for my country" kind of moment.

Dean Heller
Must be shitting his pants.  

Why
would he be doing that now though? I could have seen him doing that a few months ago when Reid was getting CRUSHED but this is actually a good poll for us. I definitely think Heller would be better but all the same he could not compete with Reid's cash flow. I have this race at tossup tilts D for the moment.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Because
Now is when all the Republican candidates imploded.  

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More Like Kicking Himself
Maybe he was biding his time for John Ensign's exit, but oops.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03

[ Parent ]
More Like Kicking Himself
Maybe he was biding his time for John Ensign's exit, but oops.  

36, M, Democrat, MD-03

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For what's it's worth
Heller and Reid are supposedly good buddies and that's probably why he passed on the race. Still, why didn't he run for governor and Sandoval run for Senate? Seems like Nevada GOP did national Dems a huge favor.

NY-14, DC-AL (college) Distraught Mets fan

[ Parent ]
Yeah
This is really looking like an epic fail by the Republicans. I'm trying to think of a state where the Democrats have failed this badly in Senate recruitment for a potentially competitive race this year. Anybody?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
None come to mind
In fact, reviewing the slate of races, we've done pretty well in recruitment. Granted, some candidates aren't performing that well so far (Hodes in NH, for instance), but really the biggest failure that comes to mind is NC, and even then Marshall and Cunningham are decent, if not as good as Roy Cooper.  

Independent Socialist & Chair of SSP Cranky Indianian Hoosier Caucus, IN-09

[ Parent ]
Remember the skepticism about Kay Hagan?
She turned out OK. None of the candidates you mentioned have said a bunch of idiotic or extremist things like the top two Republican candidates in NV. We'll have to see how all of them do in the fall, but on the face of it, we are in agreement that they aren't either idiots, obvious gaffers, or extremists. Even in Delaware, where Coons may lose in a blowout, it won't be because he's an awful candidate, but because Castle is the best possible one.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Florida is the obvious one for me
Getting Kendrick Meek into the race wasn't exactly a coup. If we had a stronger Democrat, Crist would be forced to run harder against Rubio instead of eating way into the Dem base.

In the congressional delegation alone, you've got Blue Dog Allen Boyd (the new Ben Nelson, but probably electable), Kathy Castor (last name=name rec), or Ron Klein (though his House seat might be tough to hold.)

Honestly, even a liberal like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz or the now-departed Robert Wexler would probably be doing better. They're both squeaky clean (notwithstanding Wexler's fondness for hookers & blow) and pretty good lil fundraisers, too.

If I could take a recruitment Mulligan on any race, it would be FL-Sen.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
I suspect Meek's weakness
is ultimately beneficial here; if we had a stronger nominee, it'd probably just guarantee Rubio's election.

[ Parent ]
Yeah, I spose.....
That's very important to point out.  Meek never polled well when Crist switching Indy was hypothetical, but he did well in a one-on-one vs Rubio.

It's still only May 30th, but Meek getting 10% does seem like the best way to win...  ::sigh::  Im not ready to be in a position to root for that though, but the problem is that Meek only getting 10% is going to be caused by problems associated sooner rather than latter.  If Crist can start consolidating the Dem vote and somehow keep it, he can pull it out.  And if that happens, Crist better fucking caucus with us.  I'll flip if he doesnt.  Just come to our fold, you may actually have a future with us.


[ Parent ]
I don't get the joke on Wexler
Please explain.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
has to do with comments
he made on the Colbert Report.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Oh, now I remember n/t


"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
Probably Illinois
 Lisa Madigan who could have won easily did not run. Instead, we have Alexi.

The other state would probably be Delaware where Beau Biden decided not to run.  

for more election analysis, visit  http://frogandturtle.blogspot....




17, CA-06,  


[ Parent ]
Alexi
would be a good candidate if not for the bank crap. He's a pretty good fundraiser and is a statewide elected official. Too bad he's no cleaner than the typical Illinois Democrat.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
With Deleware
Beau Biden made it competitive only because of name recognition.  Coons can step it up to Beau Biden potential.

[ Parent ]
Could "None of These Candidates" win this election?
I think there ought to be a shadowy IE group running ads to advocate that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...

Tarkanian
He's clearly the closest to a bland "Generic R" at this point -- and that's just who Reid should NOT want to face.

Maybe the DSCC or an enterprising independent pro-Dem group can take out some kind of anti-Tarkanian attack ad?  I'm kind of serious...


Possibly...
But he is a proven loser and has no money or fundraising ability. If he could raise the money, he would be strongest, even though he has lost twice. I lean Lowden/Tarkanian here.  

[ Parent ]
I do have to wonder about his campaign skills
given that he was the #2 until the last month or so, and seemingly hasn't benefited from Lowden's collapse at all.  That doesn't exactly speak highly of him.

That said, there seems to be a lot less obviously wrong with him than with the others.  If I was a GOP voter, I'd back him.


[ Parent ]
prob because R's want something spicier
than generic republican.  

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
He seems like a lock for third so no point in attacking him
But I dunno, I do like the idea of closing the book on him.  It'd have to be legit attacks because anything outrageous only gives him the chance to make the papers defending himself.

[ Parent ]
actually, Im thinking this totally wrong
Lowden and Angle instead of being in the spot light and making it a two person race between them, they may nuke each other and Tark could sneak through.  It happens, we better nuke him.

[ Parent ]
Reid has the bazillions and ability to raise more
he should start airing ads attacking Lowden and Tarkanian.  Get Angle the win because she'd be EASY to beat.

[ Parent ]
what happens if "none of these" wins?
does the secon place winner get the nom?  that seems to go against the concept of "none of these."  of is there another election?  are the losers of the first ballot allowed to participate b/c they were already rejected?

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

that doesn't seem right
not incorrect, i don't doubt you, just wrong.  i guess i just see law literally, but if "none of these" wins, then NONE OF THESE should get the nomination.  that might be a tad simplistic, but that's how i see it.

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

[ Parent ]
Unfortunatley the NV law is rather stupid
The candidate with the most votes is elected no matter how many votes are cast for "None of these candidates".

http://nota.org/nevada.html

It's just an alternative to casting a blank ballot, that's all.  I think we should use the Russian system of calling a new election.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


[ Parent ]
they used to have that in Russia
but it was called "against all" instead of "none of the above." If "against all" won a plurality, no one was declared the winner and a new election was scheduled some weeks later. That happened a few times.

[ Parent ]
I think "None of the above"
should be a choice in any election, and if it wins a majority, the candidates who ran in the first election should be barred from running in the followup election.

Of course, that would require a Constitutional amendment, and that won't happen.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
CHICKENS! CHICKENS!
CHICKENS! CHICKENS! CHICKENS! CHICKENS!

19, gay male, IL-7, MN 4 (college), Dem


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