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NC & OH Results Thread

by: James L.

Tue May 04, 2010 at 9:50 PM EDT


Now that we've pretty much buried Indiana, it's time to move the party over to a fresh new thread.

RESULTS

11:51pm: Gibbs now leads Dailey by 5 votes in OH-18. 35 precincts to go.
11:41pm: 'Chili wins OH-02 -- the AP calls it.
11:28pm: Last update from jeffmd here, but I'm gonna say a narrow 'Chili win in OH-02 (he'll improve slightly), and a very very narrow win in OH-18 for Dailey, within recount territory.
11:13pm: Things are looking better for Yalamanchili in OH-02, up 651 votes with 11 precincts left; 9 are in Hamilton County, where Chili's been getting 55%. (jeffmd)
10:59pm: A new back of the envelope calculation says 21.1% for Dailey to 20.7% for Gibbs, or a 167-vote margin. Guernsey, Licking, and Tuscarawas Counties are left. Guernsey was 17-14 for Dailey, with some dude Moll winning; Licking was 30% for some dude Daubenmire but was 15-10 for Gibbs. Tuscarawas was also good for Moll, but leaned Gibbs 12-10. (jeffmd)
10:54pm: Here's a bit of good news: In OH-02, Surya Yalamanchili has taken the lead from David Krikorian for the first time. He's up 39-38 with three quarters in.
10:49pm: We're down to stems and seeds, folks. The only real excitement left is OH-18.
10:42pm: 509 of 589 precincts are in, and Dailey leads by 160 votes in OH-18. Meanwhile, all the votes are now counted in NC-11, and it looks like Jeff Miller will barely make it to the general without a runoff -- unless there's a recount.
10:22pm: SSP's jeffmd.app is projecting Fred Dailey to win OH-18 by 21.5% to Bob Gibbs' 20.5%. Ohio law calls for a mandatory recount if the margin is below 0.5%.
10:19pm: The AP has called a runoff for NC-08, with Harold Johnson and Tim D'Annuzio the lucky twosome. Meanwhile, jeffmd has called IN-09 for Todd Young.
10:13pm: With 445 of 589 precincts in, NRCC pick Bob Gibbs leads Fred Daily by just 70 votes. Hang on to your butts...
10:03pm: The AP has called the Ohio Senate primary for Lee Fisher. He's leading Brunner by 56-44 with about 48% of the votes in.
9:58pm: In OH-18, Fred Dailey leads NRCC pick Bob Gibbs by 25-22. Over half the vote's in there.
9:53pm: OH-16 got super-tight - Jim Renacci leads Matt Miller by just over 100 votes.
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I doubt Marshall will pass 40%
And I'm surprised how close OH-sen has been.  I thought it was going to be a blow out.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
My thoughts on Marshall
I like the idea of progressive females aspiring to higher office. But after coming down on the pro-Marshall side, I beginning to think Marshall looks old. Is she seriously capable of three hard months of campaigning come Labor Day? And if she wins, can we honestly expect her to hold the seat in six years?

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Her age doesn't concern me too much
Now, if she was 65 years old and a prospective Supreme Court candidate, I might be a little more concerned. The Senate has become a much older body and it's less of a rarity to see people in their mid-to-late 60's running for a Senate seat. Dan Coats and Mike Castle are both older than Marshall.

I voted for Cunningham, but I'd have no problem with her as the nominee. I wish she was a better fundraiser but Cunningham's not really setting the world on fire either.  

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Plus on average women live longer than men anyway.


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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)
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OH-18
A close race: Dailey 25% - Gibbs 22%.
Who's
the establishment candidate in that race?

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26
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Gibbsy
is the NRCC pick.

Dailey is the '08 candidate who they dislike.

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yeah
The state Republican party did a few mailings for Gibbs and the NRCC was pushing DC $ towards Gibbs.  
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Dailey ran in 2008 and lost 60-40.
He'd probably do better this year, but he's only raised around $100k, so it'd be almost impossible for him to actually win.
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Looks like it's been called for Fisher nt


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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!

Important
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"No more excuses"
WIN!!!!!!!

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26
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Funny!
Though, of course, it's not that Fisher had big bucks; it's that Brunner had practically zero. She just dropped the ball here.
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Brunner should have stayed as SOS.


20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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AMEN!
I hope she leaves politics for good!
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She's a solid progressive Democrat
Who couldn't fundraise well for this campaign, whether her own fault or that of donors being pressured.
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If she was a netroots liberal, why did I never see Kos push some fundraising for her?
I think its because Fisher and Brunner are too similar, I think OH-sen is fine, and that Fisher has a more extensive history in Ohio Politics.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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The Netroots would not have made a difference.
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If she was such a solid Dem
Why couldn't she do what was best for the OH dems and stay SOS, make sure they are in good position for redistricting, and save the DSCC a fair amount of money.

She is just in it for herself.

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that makes no sense.
Why couldn't Fisher do what was best and let the better candidate run unopposed?
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I hope Obama gives her a job
She'd be a good judge.
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She's a lightweight.
Her entire campaign was based on complaining about how she was being mistreated by big-E, establishment Dems. And her refusal to campaign for Fisher shows how stupid she is. Brunner apparently never learned that in politics there are no permanent enemies.
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That was it
I still feel to this day that, Brunner was the better, more electable candidate than Fisher, if and only if the two were on the same financial standing.  But Brunner's inability to fundraise ultimately killed her as Fisher was able to mount a final sprint to the finish unobstructed.  

Oh well, it's water under the bridge now, it's time to get behind Lee Fisher (and Ted Strickland) and bring these guys to victory.  It's time to put up or shut up, and I'm sure as hell not ready to stomach Rob Portman and John Kasich.  Uggh.

I'm really hoping that Jim Renacci goes down in OH-16, he's a very solid candidate and will give Boccieri a heck of a race if he gets through.  If the teabagger takes him out that would be outstanding.  OH-18, I don't think Space is going down regardless unless the Dems are losing 60+ seats.  

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13

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Bohner said they would win back 100+ seats
and come on, Boner never lies.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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I don't expect you've seen the last of Jennifer Brunner
I would not be surprised to see her run for OH-12 or OH-15 in 2012, assuming they remain Columbus-area districts.
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You know what
That's actually not outside the realm of possibility, especially if Tiberi gets bloodied up by Paula Brooks this year in OH-12 (I'm assuming that Kilroy will rematch with Stivers if she loses this year).  I'm not entirely certain where in Columbus Brunner lives, if she's in OH-12 or OH-15, but in all honesty she could probably run for either.

She'll have to do a little better on the fundraising front next time if she goes for it, but at least a house race isn't as daunting as a senate race.  

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13

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Yeah, I'm not dancing on her grave
She was a good SoS, just a lousy fundraiser with somewhat annoying fans. I wish she hadn't torpedoed her future in Ohio politics by a bad campaign ended with sore-loser-ish noises, but I wish Judge Brunner the best wherever she ends up.
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You know, your right that I shouldn't blame the candidate for her supporters..
It does seem like every year there's some candidate who's supporters are just obnoxious. Two years ago there was these Steve Novick fans from OR on SSP who were just unbearable. Anyone else remember them?
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Ugh yes
But let's not open old wounds.
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Or that asshole
who kept railing against Franken.  :)
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No seriously
With 20/20 hindsight, she probably should've been begged to stay at SoS. She would've been super-helpful with redistricting and would've easily won another term as SoS, I'm sure.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.
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She'd be SoS anyway
In NC, statewide offices (U.S. Senate and judges notwithstanding) are always held in presidential years. So she'll keep her seat this year whether she's the nominee or not, and will then probably win handily in 2012.
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Oops
I didn't realize this thread was about Brunner, I thought it was about the other female Secretary of State on the ballot.
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OH
They were talking about Ohio, not NC.  
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NC-Sen
It looks like it'll be a runoff, Elaine's got 37%, Cunningham has 28%, Lewis has 16%, and the others have the rest. I'm still surprised that the minor candidates took so much of the vote from the big two (or three), that seems to be what made the difference.

Expect a Marshall endorsement by Kenneth Lewis, he ran attack ads against Cunningham. This will help Elaine consolidate the black vote and win the runnoff. Ann Worthy also was harsh on Cunningham during the debate, she might endorse Elaine as well. I think Elaine will be favored in the runoff.

I think Lewis and Williams will be pressured by the DSCC and state party to support Cal.
I don't know for sure but if I were Robert Menendez I'd be on the phone right now with both of them begging for a Cunningham endorsement. The DSCC will make a race out of it, much to our enjoyment!
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I will be so pissed
If Cal calls for a runoff and wastes more time and effort.  He's clearly not the fundraising machine they thought he was.  She's got a great name and reputation, too.  If Ken Lewis endorses him, I'll be even more pissed considering he ran attack ads.  I wish what you said was true about Williams - I would love it if he became some kingpin in state politics.  He's run so many times and pulls the same amount every time.  Governor, Senate, Senate again, Court of Appeals, etc.

PS - I'm a huge Elaine fan (and a major anti-Cal person, also).

28, male, NC-13 formerly NC-01, 04, 05, 07, 11

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Why shouldn't he call for a runoff ??
36% is a long ways from a majority. If she had gotten 39%, I would agree with you, even 38%, but not with 36%.

Marshall has a leg up, but the runoff is 7 weeks away.   A lot can happen in that time.  With just two candidates, they won't have to share a debate stage any longer with three others. With most races now settled, the focus will sharpen on just those two.  

Historically speaking, the runner-up wins the runoff, not the first place finisher.  Endorsements from the other candidates matter too though.    

It would be a HUGE mistake for the DSCC to endorse Cunningham outright, but a few behind the scenes moves might make a difference.

Burr is bland and we need someone who isn't bland to beat him.  Cunningham has a shot to be that candidate.  Marshall, IMO does not.  

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Great name recognition?
Just 5 months ago, half of the electorate had no opinion of Marshall, and that's from someone that's been the SoS for 13+ years.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04
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Name Recognition does not equal Having an opinion
You can recognize the name, but have no idea what the person has done in office, a thus have no opinion of them.  If given the choice between a name they recognize but know little about versus a name they don't recognize, voters will usually choose the former.

Regardless, she had more ,name recognition than Cunningham.

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I agree, but...
I don't believe she has great name recognition within NC.  She's probably has better name recognition than any other member of the NC Council of state, but that not saying much at all.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04
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I seriously Lewis will endorse Cal in the primary
Elaine and Ken have been friends for a long time and were very cordial to each other the whole campaign, even before Cunningham was in the race. Plus, the only attacks in the primary were from Lewis to Cunningham over bank bonuses, so there is clearly some tension there that requires more than a phone call from Menendez to overcome. http://www2.wnct.com/nct/news/...

If the DSCC gets involved in the runoff they will piss a lot of NC activists off which would not be wise on their part considering that NC has one of the strongest grassroots Democratic Party sturctures in the nation. Also, it would alienate female voters, who make up about 60% of registered Democrats and will be more likely to break for Elaine. That is not to say those voters wouldn't vote for Cal in November, but there would be a lack of enthusiasm by many Democrats to directly volunteer for the Cunningham campaign if this happened in my opinion.

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*seriously doubt

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Well, there are absolutely no primaries of intrest next week
Hopefully Conway beats Mongiardo on the 18th, and Halter makes Blanche mince meat.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
What about WV-01?
Mollohan v. Oliverio, with a six-way Republican free-for-all?

I'm also interested to see if Don Blankenship's buddy Spike Maynard wins the Republican nomination in WV-03, considering how lackluster his fundraising has been.

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I really haven't kept up with that WV-01 race
Why is Mollohan being primaried?

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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Oliverio's whole campaign has been based on Mollohan's ethics issues
despite the fact that Mollohan was cleared recently. Oliverio is running to Mollohan's right, he's basically a Republican.
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This what we need more of
Moderate dems being primaried by conservative dems.  Facepalm.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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WV-01
Mollohan was losing in a poll last week.

28, Liberal Democrat, CA-26
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Oliverio's internal poll. Grain of salt.

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You can always
Follow the UK election on Thursday!
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Ugg, and watch the Conservatives win?
I'd rather not.  With Cons to the north of us, Cons to the south of us, and soon Cons to be to the East of us, our only "liberal" friend will be Japan to the west :(

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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They're not really Cons though
More like moderate Dems!
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Well yeah...
But they suck too.

Oh who am I kidding, Barack Obama would probably be part of the Canadian Conservative party if he were born in Canada. Us Americans are doomed to having an Ultra right party and a moderate party if compared on a world scale.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

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Japan
after breaking out of basically uninterrupted one-party rule since the war, Japan has a PM whose wife believes in UFOs. cool beans. maybe she and Kucinich should get together sometime.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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OH-2 & IN-5
Two examples of voters on our side likely not knowing what they are voting for, these aren't just cases of more moderate Dems winning, nuts really can do well in a low turnout primary.  Ask the voters of TX-22 if you need more evidence.  

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23, Democrat, IA-2

What happened in IN-05?
I mean, what's the deal with the candidates there?
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Tim Crawford
An ex-GOPer who sounds like a teabagger to me won that, the other guy was a doctor who had a funny sounding name that some voters hated for the usual stupid reasons.

http://www.timforushouse.com/i...

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23, Democrat, IA-2

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Renaci should win OH-16 GOP nod
Too much of Stark County remaining.
OH-18
Dailey back in the lead by less than 200 votes. Recount?
NC-11
All precincts in, Jeff Miller wins with 40.19%. 65 votes out of runoff territory.
Still not called.
Wonder if this is a recount situation, being <.02% from a runoff.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11
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Interesting question
Google up NC's recount law and get back to us! :)
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Here's what I found
(c) Mandatory Recounts for Ballot Items Within the Jurisdiction of the State Board of Elections. - In a ballot item within the jurisdiction of the State Board of Elections, a candidate shall have the right to demand a recount of the votes if the difference between the votes for that candidate and the votes for a prevailing candidate are not more than the following:

(1) For a nonstatewide ballot item, one percent (1%) of the total votes cast in the ballot item, or in the case of a multiseat ballot item, one percent (1%) of the votes cast for those two candidates.

On its face, this does not seem to give Eichenbaum the right to demand a recount because the difference between HIS vote total and Miller's is far greater than 1%.  I assume then that they're not calling it because they have to wait for the final certified canvass, not because of the possibility of a recount.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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Chili takes the lead
in OH-02 with 76% in.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11
Good to see
Democrats rebound.  

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23, Democrat, IA-2

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Chili expands to 4
with 91% in.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11
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CHILI ANYONE?
don't look now; chili is in the lead........
Overall, a pretty boring election night
I hope there's more fun Thursday with the UK elections.
Anyone else worried about Heath Shuler's margin in NC 11?
For an incumbent Representative to lose the biggest and most important county in his district is pretty distressing (Buncombe). I really hope Shuler doesn't have a problem in November with the Democratic base there. FWIW the GOP challenger who won his primary in NC did not win Buncombe either.
I find it strangely encouraging.
Gives me hope that the Democratic base is alive and well and paying at least some attention.  8,000 more Democrats showed up to the primary than Republicans when the Republican primary was the competitive one.  May just be reflective of a registration advantage, but I hope it is a good sign.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11
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Turnout
Or maybe they came out to vote because of the Senate race?
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Good point
didn't think of that.  That's probably right.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11
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But yeah also!
That's still a nice registration advantage of apparently active voters. Perhaps the pollsters will recognize it with their voter models. Or not.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.
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Asheville
is a liberal oasis in a conservative region. It's not surprising that they would vote against Shuler in the primary. I don't think it's cause for concern, however, given how weak the Republican opposition is. Larry Kissell's 63-37 win is a little more troubling.
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That's what I thought too
About Asheville voting against Shuler but good to hear the Republicans are in a tight race with non serious challengers there.

What's the deal with Kissell?

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Kissell's win was on the backs of grassroots activists
and he's been a pretty disappointing representative so far, voting against health care and climate change.
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I think it's great for him to fear problems from the Democratic base
Maybe that will make him consider voting a little bit more like the main stream of the Democratic Congressional Caucus. I like RuralDem wouldn't agree that that would be a positive effect, but that's OK; there are different factions within the Democratic Party, as we all know.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  
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save the wet blankets, Kissell and Shuler are the great news of the night
Kissell got as many votes as all the Republicans combined.  And Shakir got an additional 14k Dem votes.

Likewise 10k more votes on the Dem side in Shuler's district.

Put these in the "Likely D" column.

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...which might mean something if there weren't 800,000 more registered Dems than Reps
and if the Republicans had had a seriously-contested Senate primary.
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OH-16 finally called
Uncalled races:

NC-11 - Miller within 0.2% of a runoff with Eichebaum with all precincts reporting.  Should be Miller's unless votes shift in the final canvass.

OH-02 - Looks all but certain for Chili, with 99% in.

OH-18 - Looks like a recount between Dailey and Gibbs, with 91% in.  Looks like Dailey will have a tiny lead.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

Daubenmire isn't just a regular "some guy"
He is a full throttle teabagger.

He is connected with the Fishwater case where a local teacher taught creationism in the classroom (that's the Good part!) and BURNED A CROSS into a student's arm!!
(Daubenmire/ Fishwater= best buds!)

He showed up a a teabagger rally outside of a private fundraiser and demanded to speak to Space.  After rumors of guns in the posession of the teabaggers, the Knox County Police was called in.

Go to his website to see more.  Or better yet....DON'T!

I think many GOPers voted in the Ohio DEM primary
I think the results are closer than the polls indicated because Republicans voted for Brunner.

Either that or Quinnipiac polls outside of the NYC area are garbage.

The margin will increase
Because a third of the vote is out in Cuyahoga. Won't quite be 60-40 but not far off.
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I doubt it
it actually looks like there were slightly more votes in the Republican statewide primaries than Democratic ones.
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The only one is NC
And there are more D than R votes.
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Oh I see
You meant Ohio. Apologies.
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Damn. You're right
As of right now, 616,000 voters voted in the GOP primary for Auditor while 595,854 voted in the DEM Senate primary.

Huh?

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Why would GOP voters vote for brunner
Brunner and Fisher are equally competitive against Portman.  Its not like some dem voting for a teabagger or Hayworth in the primary where it would make things competitive in a race that would otherwise be a blowout.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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Because Brunner only had $76,000
She would be a weaker candidate against Portman's millions.
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Not
trying to open old wounds, but if I was a Republican I would probably vote Brunner as well. We have a much better path to victory with Fisher.

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  
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That's Absurd.
   Normal voters don't vote like that.  Swing Staters are not typical.

24, Male, GA-05
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"Swing Staters are not typical."
Heh - you can say that again.
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Kissell & Shuler
Larry Kissell, with all precincts in, won his primary just 63-37 after being the state's Democratic House darling last cycle in the R+2 NC-08. Healthcarevotemuch?

Heath Shuler, with all precincts in, won his primary 62-38, running for his third term in the R+6 NC-11....after winning against Carl Mumpower 62-36 in 2008.

Hmmmm....

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.

A combination of apathy and irritating the grassroots...
I know turnout was very low in the NC primary, which is probably partly because the only statewide office up is the US Senate seat. Even then, Marshall, Cunningham and Lewis really don't seem to fire people up either way. Combined with Kissell and Schuler's votes against health care and I'd imagine the base wasn't too excited to come out and vote for them in the primary.
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OH-02 called for Chili.


34, WM, Democrat, FL-11
OH
Is this good?  I thought Krikorian had this locked up and was decent?

29/D/Male/NY-01
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Krikorian is ok, don't know much about him.
But he had a Macaca moment where he asked why people would vote for Chili when he had a name like that.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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Good and bad.
Krikorian is probably more electable.  He actually had an internal early in the cycle with him up on Schmidt slightly.

However, Chili is a better Dem (Krikorian is not really a Dem at all - he is very conservative and ran as an independent in 2008).  Chili is endorsed by prior candidates Vic Wulsin and Paul Hackett.

Also, Krikorian got himself into some trouble making fun of Chili's last name recently, suggesting Chili's ethnicity would make it impossible for him to win.

So this is probably good for humanity, but it is neutral to bad for our prospects for winning the seat, which are pretty bad either way.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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Well, I dunno
Chili has name rec from being on TV, so maybe he could win?  We unfortunately live in a celebrity world.  More people probably know more about what was on the cover of People magazine last week than the Oil spill in the gulf of Mexico.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)
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"More electable" is a complete fiction in this district, this year......
If "more electable" means losing 60-40 instead of 62-38, that's not really more electable at all, and really that's as big a "distinction" I think one can argue here.

I'm very skeptical of a released early poll showing Krikorian up.  I didn't know about it and I eat up this stuff voraciously, but if it had real legs it would've gotten more attention here I think.  Somehow I suspect it's one of those "leaks" with cooked numbers (e.g., trial heat question asked after message testing questions are posed).

All that said, I recall Chili himself originally was running as an independent and switched over to Team Blue, and that makes me unenthused about him, as well.  At least he did make the switch, but still, how much of a Democrat could he have been in the first place?

BTW, as I've mentioned at times before on SSP, I'm Indian-American myself, and it's a big thing in our community to try to get an Indian-American Democrat elected to Congress (most of us are Democrats and don't care about Bobby Jindal).  But this isn't one of the better opportunities, even though I take satisfaction in the primary win against a 2008 saboteur.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

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But even Booby learned
that to be elected as a relatively dark-skinned Indian-American in conservative state is really difficult. Even if you are conservative Republican yourself. OH-2, while not "southern", is no less (probably even more) conservative then Louisiana. And "dark-skinned Indian-American candidate" isn't a conservative Republican, but rather liberal Democrat....
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That's an awkward typo :-P
n/t

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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Yes))) I wished many times tfor possibility to edit posts...

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Hell, I didn't think it was a typo! Seriously! (nm)
nm

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10
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I strongly dislike Krikorian.
    He sabotaged the Democrats in 2008 by running as an independent.  He is very conservative.  I don't see any difference between him and a generic Republican (admittedly better than Schmidt).  He's even an a-hole in defeat - blaming his loss on Yalamanchili "playing the race card."  http://news.cincinnati.com/art...

 Good riddance.  It's a testament to Krikorian's weakness as a candidate that he couldn't beat a slick, former Proctor & Gamble executive in a blue-collar district with high unemployment.

24, Male, GA-05

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Dkos user, Ohiobama is going to be pissed.
He(or she?) was pulling for Krikorian since last fall.

Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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That's the happiest thing of all for me......
Ohiobama's diaries were nauseating.  I imagine he's in total shock this morning, I'm not sure anyone really expected this outcome.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10
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What a D-Bag
I'm glad Chili won. Even if he loses this year, this could be a building block for him. Krikorian is futureless in our party - as well he should be.
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Good, now Krikorian has to accept the results this time.


Ad hoc, ad loc and quid pro quo!
So little time, so much to know!
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OH-18
It looks like Gibbs will pull off a 'victory' by a margin of possibly less than 50 votes. Pretty much guarantees a recount.    
Overall I'm pleased with Fishers win
I was quite amused on what politico had to say
He[Fisher] outraised and outspent his opponent, who drove around the state on an old school bus and didn't air a single television advertisement.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s...



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Poor night for the Teabaggers
Good night for the GOP establishment.
Exactly
I can't (so far) name a single "pure teabagger" (not establishment candidate, using some teabagger's retoric, but "candidate from outside") winning important primary or having really good chances in general. May be Rand Paul two weeks from now? But even he isn't a "complete outsider"....
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Is that the standard?
Because if it is, Jim DeMint wouldn't qualify, simply because he's already in the Senate. But he does qualify.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  
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Yes and No
By behavoir - yes. But he had plenty of time to make himself a part of establishment (the most conservative part of it, sure, but still) long before anyone began to speak about "teabagger's movement"))))
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Understood
But now, he is a Tea Party leader.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  
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