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PA-Sen: Quinnipiac Gives Specter 7-Point Lead

by: Crisitunity

Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 1:38 PM EST


Quinnipiac (2/22-28, registered voters, 12/8-14 in parentheses):

Arlen Specter (D-inc): 49 (44)
Pat Toomey (R): 42 (44)
Undecided: 8 (11)

Joe Sestak (D): 36 (35)
Pat Toomey (R): 39 (40)
Undecided: 24 (22)
(MoE: ±2.6%)

Arlen Specter (D-inc): 53 (53)
Joe Sestak (D): 29 (30)
Undecided: 14 (15)
(MoE: ±3.9%)

This ought to shake up some of that growing pessimism about the Pennsylvania Senate race -- although most of that pessimism seems to come from the fact that only Rasmussen and Franklin & Marshall have been polling this race reliably for the last few months. (And recall that Franklin & Marshall offers both LV and RV models, where Toomey wins the LV matchup and Specter the RV matchup, meaning that, well, Rasmussen and Quinnipiac -- which is polling registered voters right now -- may both be right.)

The improvement in the matchup between Arlen Specter and Pat Toomey is all the more interesting because Specter and Joe Sestak have been going hammer and tongs at each other while Toomey is out of the fray. In fact, Toomey's favorables indicate how unbesmirched he really is: he's at 26/8, with a whopping 65% "haven't heard enough" (note to Specter or DSCC or somebody: start defining Toomey as Club for Growth wingnut ASAP). Sestak is in a similar boat, with favorables of 18/6, while pretty much everyone has already decided about Specter, who has an approval of 48/45, which has changed very little since December's 47/45. I hate to start prematurely acting like the Democrats have weathered the worst of the storm and the momentum going into November has changed direction, but with nothing else having significantly changed about this race in the last few months, it seems like changes in the national environment have to be at least partially responsible here for the changed toplines. (Discussion underway in conspiracy's diary too.)

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Quinnipiac
They should be treated more seriously than some others
like RAS.They have good track record.While not always
right In final perchange.Spector won back In 92 when Clinton was elected,and In 2004 when Kerry carried PA.
If I lived In PA I would not vote for him In Primary but
would In General Election.

The Conservative MSM Is going overboard with all the doom
and gloom and polls.MA should remind people races can change.Remember at one time Coakley has a huge lead.
I sure don't remember back In 2006 the Media saying how
much trouble Republicans were in.

And at one time if you said democrats would pick up 6 seats
In the senate In 2006,and 8 seats In 2008 people would say
you were crazy.

Even when Quinnipiac has bad news for our side I still put my faith In them than RAS.


Well, at this point, Rasmussen is just spamming.
But apart from that, I don't put full faith in any poll.

Just, some polls are better than others, and you also have to learn the biases of each polling institution (e.g. better in primaries? in certain geographical areas? using likely or registered screen?).

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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I really hope the worst is over
Wouldn't it be amazing if we actually made some gains in 2010? I think the fact that Indiana is actually competitive shows that things might not be so bad come November.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

I hope so
Competitive Indiana without Bayh, Specter gaining ground, the Bright poll showing him far ahead of any of his GOP competitors, the polls showing Perriello not as far behind as anticipated.

Hopefully the bottom has passed.


[ Parent ]
Yup
definitely not the only evidence of a national inflection point. IL-Sen looking salvageable. And didn't we get some good numbers in MI-GOV recently too?
We are going to lose seats, but maybe not too many in blue states. I say we lose AR, CO, ND, NV, WI and DE.
Hold CT, IL, PA, IN, NY (both), WA, CA.
Maybe a pick up in NH OR MO, and something funky in FL if Crist decides to bolt the GOP.
We'll have 53 or 54.

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nwih we lose WI and we're going to win 2/3 OH, NH and MO
If the Pubs had any foresight they would realize that having Reid as majority leader (instead of Schumer or Durbin let's say) was the only reason they were so successful this past year and stop campaigning so hard against him.

One of the weirdest things about this cycle in my mind is that Vitter (R-diapers), known family values man despite extensive forensic background into prostitutes in multiple states and jurisdictions, is going to have an easy hold against a legitimate opponent.  


[ Parent ]
To paraphrase gopvoter,
They don't care about values; the only f***ing they care about is f***ing with our legislation.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

[ Parent ]
I don't see us realistically making gains ...
... but the floor very well might not collapse.  Here in Indiana, I actually am cautiously optimistic about holding both the Senate seat and the IN-08 House seat.

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I'm interested to see more MO-Sen polls
Carnahan was holding on to a tie until the national environment REALLY got bad. If it gets better she should get back into a tie and maybe grab the lead.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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I'd like to see a poll done by someone other than Rasmussen in MO
That's really the problem, there are so few non-Rasmussen polls out there that we're pretty much held hostage to whatever narrative they come up with (whether true or not).

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
"Registered voters" concerns me....
..particularly in an off year election when turnout almost always declines.  Unfortunately Democrats historically have done better with "everyone" than "registered voters" and better with "registered voters" than "likely voters."  Now some of the deviations in polling (particularly with Rasmussen) have been over what the "likely voter" model will be.  Unfortunately it is unlikely to reflect the opinions of "registered voters."

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Maybe so
but given that it's hard to find out who will turn out 8 months before the election, RVs is at least more consistent. Until we get closer to the election I'm inclined to be somewhat wary about LV polls, even if they would be accurate if the election were held today.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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[ Parent ]
Things are definitely gettting better.
I think that Dems may have actually been helped by the Scott Brown win in that it made some people realize the Republicans could take it all in November, and what the consequences might be. Also, this Bunning thing can't be helping.

That said, I have a feeling Dems may not be out of the woods yet.  


Man
I wish Bunning was still running, it would be the easiest pickup ever. I live in the Louisville media market and Bunning has been getting some really bad press. Even local conservatives are pissed at him. If he was on the ballot in November his seat would be more likely to flip parties than North Dakota is.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Nice to see a registered voters poll
The weightings on likely voters in various polls has been bizarre to say the least, with those 1% assumptions, and Ras polling everybody in the world without a cellphone.

Specter beat Toomey among Republican primary voters in 2004
Are we expected to believe that the Pennsylvania general electorate in 2010 is more conservative than just the Republican primary voters in 2004?

26, male, Dem, NJ-12

No, but it's a different time...
Specter had the support of Bush and all the Repub congressional delegation in 2004.

That said, I do think once it comes out how conservative Toomey is (Club for Growth strongly supported Social Security privitization), he's going to lose, maybe big, against either Specter or Sestak.  


[ Parent ]
Probably Specter
since Sestak has had quite a while to close the gap and now only has a little over 2 months left.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
I really don't see
How Specter loses this race against Toomey.  Sure the Republicans will be after him hard because of his party switch, but the way in which Specter has held onto the majority of the Democratic primary electorate is pretty amazing.  I figured this primary would be at best leaning toward Specter right now and maybe even a toss up.  I think Specter will really consolidate the democratic vote in November, especially after some ads showing just how nuts Toomey is.  And Specter has always pulled in the independent voters, so I don't think the Indies will be as much a problem in Pennsylvania as in other states.  

Specter is going to win this race.  To me, it's a much more sure bet than say, Giannoulias v Kirk in Illinois or Bennet v Norton in Colorado, which are also close races in blue seats.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


[ Parent ]
Colorado isn't all that blue
I feel like Colorado's not as blue as PA. it only came around to the Democratic column recently and now seems to be turning away again while PA has had a Dem tilt for quite a few years now. Plus in CO the registration is essentially even while in PA we have a significant advantage.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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