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OH-Sen, OH-Gov: Strickland Leads, Dems Narrowly Trail Portman

by: Crisitunity

Wed Feb 24, 2010 at 1:19 PM EST


Quinnipiac (2/16-21, registered voters, 11/5-9 in parentheses):

Lee Fisher (D): 37 (36)
Rob Portman (R): 40 (39)
Undecided: 21 (24)

Jennifer Brunner (D): 35 (34)
Rob Portman (R): 40 (38)
Undecided: 23 (27)
(MoE: ±2.4%)

Lee Fisher (D): 29 (24)
Jennifer Brunner (D): 20 (22)
Undecided: 48 (51)
(MoE: ±4%)

Quinnipiac (2/16-21, registered voters, 11/5-9 in parentheses):

Ted Strickland (D-inc): 44 (40)
John Kasich (R): 39 (40)
Undecided: 15 (18)
(MoE: ±2.4%)

I wonder if Ted Strickland's phones are ringing off the hook as other Democrats call up and ask him what he did to improve his standing for re-election (Strickland has trailed John Kasich in polls for several months, although some of that may have to do with the fact that only Rasmussen has been polling the race regularly). The things is, Strickland may not have an explanation either. My first inclination would be to chalk this up to a sample fluctuation, but seeing as how the Senate matchups and Barack Obama's approval (44/52, not much change from 45/50) have changed very little since November, it seems like something's working in Strickland's favor. It certainly isn't Ohio's dismal economy, so maybe it has more to do with previously-undecideds taking a look at Kasich and not liking what they see.

As I said, there's little change in the Senate general election numbers; both Democratic Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher and SoS Jennifer Brunner trail Republican ex-Rep. Rob Portman by narrow margins. This race may still be winnable once we head into the home stretch (especially if the Dem nominee taps the currently bulging populist vein against the consummate insider Portman), although the already financially-loaded Portman now has the advantage of not having to fight a primary (with Tom Ganley's strange decision to move over to OH-13) while Fisher and Brunner keep slugging it out. While half the primary electorate is still undecided, Fisher seems to be putting a little distance between himself and the feisty but flat broke Brunner.

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No comment on the senate race
Have said all there is to say there. But Strickland. Very positive. Not sure it is just sample fluctuation since Quinnipiac are quite clear there was across the board improvement in the internal questions. As an aside, I found this spin from former POS VP Robert Moran to be quite desperare.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...

Nate Tweeted today - "Biggest myth in polling: that an incumbent under 50% can't win. Since 2006, 20 of 30 incumbents at <50% in early polling HAVE won."

Pwnd.


The "magic" 50% rule of thumb
I saw that 538 tweet (yesterday actually). http://twitter.com/fivethirtye...

Has he written articles before that expand on that statement?
Or maybe it's something he's working on writing more about (once the Olympics are over).


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Nate versus Moran
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com...

I thought it was too much of a coincidence.


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And Ed Kilgore!
http://www.thedemocraticstrate...

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28, New Democrat, Female, TX-03 (hometown CA-26)


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also: 'Sorry, Bob, but Nate's Right" by Mark Blumenthal.
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/...
So Pollster.com says 'Uncle'

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These last couple days of polls leaves me cauciously optimistic.
Hopefully HCR passes soon as well as that jobs bill.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)

Y'know you're right
Since the fall out from Bayh, things have been going quite well.

I wonder where the bottom is going to fall out on us next? Lautenberg has a turn for the worse? Can't find 218 in the House? I would say Lieberman does the full turn but he's been AMAZINGLY cooperative in the new year.

And now I'm paranoid, thanks.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


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I think it's possible that Lieberman
realizes that he's without a political home right now, and his only (long) shot at re-election is as a Democrat.  He's not going to be elected as a Republican from Conn.  Heck, he's even sponsoring the repeal of Don't Ask/Don't Tell in the Senate.

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He's screwing it up
Oh yeah, now there's a politically courageous stand--supporting something 70% of Americans support.

Effing Lieberman. Seriously, dude, teh gheyz are some of the only folks who don't completely and totally hate you, Lieberman. Don't screw this up.

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Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


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He has to run as an Independent, I think
I can't imagine how he makes it out of a primary (Dem or GOP) alive.

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I think
he was talking about if he caucused with the republicans, not try to run in a republican primary. I kind of wonder if he will run as for President as an independent in 2012.  

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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I think he realizes
He kind of has been screwing over his party a bit too much and knows they couldve gotten this done before Coakley if it hadnt been for him.  But meh, maybe we'll just end up with a PO and something a bit progressive because of reconciliation, and pared down but the paring down stuff can be done through other bills later on.

Ive been quite optimistic lately as well.  Polling is changing on HCR, the Democrats seem ready to play ball, they seem have some actual messaging.  Maybe losing MA-Sen wasnt such a bad thing, it was quite the wake up call and could potentially save us seats in November.


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A wake up Call
I've been noticing activity on Facebook. The non campaign entities of several elected officials I follow are now regularly putting out news briefs on what they are doing. It's as though they are actually trying to spread the word as to what they are doing for their constituents as opposed to just being party shills who only focus on the big "controversial" issues.

Franken, Tester, Sherrod Brown, Gillibrand, Chet Edwards and Patrick Murphy have been going gangbusters on FB as of late.  And not one status is about them needing money, it's about policy. Good for them.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


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I
really want to support Brunner in the Senate race since she seems like an awesome progressive (especially due to her support of marriage equality)but honestly unless she starts to raise some money and gets more excited Im just gonna support Fisher who seems like a strong populist and is raising just as much as Portman.  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

My thoughts EXACTLY


26, Male, Democrat, TX-26

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I
like Brunner, but I just don't see how she can catch up in money. I mean seriously 60K COH! You need more than that to run for the state senate. If Brunner was really running a grassroots campaign then she would have money to show for it.

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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She's screwing the state
IF she was really an awesome progressive she would have stayed in the SOS job so we could ensure that the redistricting is fair.  Redistricting will have a far bigger impact then her failed senate campaign.  

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Right...
and Mary Taylor is screwing the state by not staying in the Auditor job and running for Lieutenant Governor.

Just sayin...

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


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a pox on both their houses.


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Agreed
Brunner could've been a shoo-in for SOS re-election. And I'd have supported her totally. But now that's needlessly at risk.

And normally I wouldn't care much about some SOS race in some other state, but this one is different. Once a decade it's so important to hold it due to its huge power in OH redistricting.
And that potential gain or loss of potential Dem leaning districts does affect me.

I hope she enjoys her likely upcoming unemployment.


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Re: the Senate race
I think it's kinda funny to say that one candidate is beating the other when 50% of the electorate is non-committal.  Sure the trendline is good for Fisher, but man, Quinnipac needs to learn how to push-poll. ;)

I'm glad to see that Strickland is sporting better numbers.  I think a lot of voters have been very unfair in blaming him for Ohio's problems, especially the economy.  Ohio's economy was already in the shitter in 2006, and most of that is out of his control anyway.  He hasn't been perfect on the issues (such as being anti-gambling), but he's done wonders for helping with cost of higher education, expansion of medical coverage and benefits within the state, and several other issues.  

More importantly, I don't see where Kasich is more qualified to be governor than Strickland.  I mean seriously, Kasich wants to abolish the state income tax.  Where in the bloody blue hell are we going to find the money to fund the state government without an income tax?  If he thinks that elimination of "pork" and "unnecessary government spending" will get it done, then he's cucco for Cocoa Puffs.

23, Male, Democrat, OH-13


You know, on any other given year...
Rob Portman would be defeated by a decent margin by a Democrat.  Portman is a joke, and if his baggage from the Bush Administration doesn't pull him down now, wait until 2016.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

Voters
have very short term memories. I remember Eric Cantor speaking at Bob McDonnell's victory party back in November, and as much as I hate to agree with that piece of ****, he was right when he said "It's Obama's economy now." Portman's going to use that line to deflect the free trade/Bush admin ties that the DSCC is going to use against him.  

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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good points, however
you'd think that the "Washington insider" tag should be able to be used effectively against Portman.
Since neither Brunner or Fisher have been "tainted" by working in DC, an anti-Washington sentiment will help them.

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Exactly
Some effective ads tying Portman with the jobs being shipped overseas will cripple him.  Voters in general know little about Portman's past.  It's time to remind him that he contributed the failed Presidency of ole Dubya.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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Am I the only one
who thinks these are excellent numbers for Fisher?  He's polling better than half a dozen incumbent Democrats, and twenty points better than our excellent candidate for DE-Sen, which is a Democratic seat.  I think this win is well within his grasp.

As for Strickland, that guy's got political chops out the wazoo.  I never really worried about him winning re-election, no matter what the polls said.

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Political chops only get you so far
He did get unseated in 1994 after all.  He's probably gotten a lot better since then but a lot of talented people lose due to circumstances they can't control.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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He's probably gotten a lot better since then but a lot of talented people lose due to circumstances they can't control.
True, if not for 1994 we wouldn't of lost to insane GOPer Frank Clemmons, who he later went on to beat in 1996 in a rematch.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Correction
He lost to Frank Cremeans not Clemmons

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.

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Just looked him up on Wikipedia. Wow...
It just goes to show that even skilled politicians can lose in very bad years to utter nuts.  And say what you will about Kasich, he's no where near as far out as Cremeans.  I think Strickland will win but this is far from in the bag.

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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I know what a nut
He wasn't the only nut to win in '94 as a Republican only to lose to a Democrat in 1996. Dosen't beat old black helicopters Helen Chenoweth from Idaho.

I don't think Kasich is that far out either, I think his problems is that he has ties to Lehman Brothers and economically wise wouldn't be a good fit for Governor, same goes with Rob Portman for Senate.

22, Male, Democrat, PA-18.


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