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TX-Gov: Medina Surges, May Be Able to Overtake KBH

by: Crisitunity

Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 2:16 PM EST


PPP (pdf) (2/4-7, likely voters)

Rick Perry (R-inc): 39
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R): 28
Debra Medina (R): 24
Undecided: 10
(MoE: ±4.8%)

(Medina supporters only: who is your second choice?)
Rick Perry (R-inc): 43
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R): 39
Undecided: 18
(MoE: ±9.7%)

Bill White (D): 49
Farouk Shami (D): 19
Undecided: 24
(MoE: ±4.9%)

I don't think anyone was expecting this: PPP takes a look at the primary races in the Texas governor's race, and finds Debra Medina, the Paulist candidate who was something of a nobody before the debates, making a huge impact in the race. Not only is her presence almost certainly going to force a runoff now -- with Rick Perry unlikely to top 50% -- but it's now at least conceivable that she and not Kay Bailey Hutchison could be the one who makes it to the runoff with Perry. There must be a major freakout going on at KBH HQ today; this is all a bit reminiscent of what must have happened last month with the Martha Coakley camp, when the nice lady who'd been coasting for a while finally looked in the rear view mirror and realized that object was closer than it appeared.

What I find baffling, though, is how Medina supporters will split if she doesn't make it into the runoff. You'd think that Medina's right-wing followers would all pile into the Perry camp, given a choice between Perry's anti-Washington posturing and KBH's decades of insiderness. Nope: it's almost an even split, with a narrow edge to Perry... suggesting that Medina is tapping into a lot of generalized anti-Perry sentiment too, or maybe just that the voters have a really superficial understanding of the differences between the candidates. (Of course, now maybe the more interesting question we should be asking is: how would KBH supporters split if she didn't make it into the runoff?)

Finally, there's the little matter of the Democratic primary. Houston mayor Bill White isn't currently making it over the 50% mark against hair product magnate Farouk Shami, but he's almost there, with a sizable number of undecideds left to break.

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Funky Cold Medina
That would be awesome if Medina was able to win this race.  Anything would be an improvement over Perry, and the Democrat would have a better chance of defeating Medina than Hutchison.

Funky Cold Medina?  This is an old song from 1989.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


Holy crap, we can plausibly win TX-Gov?
If Perry & Medina make the runoff, and Medina manages to tap that anti-Perry sentiment to defeat him, White would make mincemeat out of her lack of credentials to actually govern a state.

And heck, I think we'd have a good shot with Perry Vs. White with the help of KBH's disaffected moderates and the anti-incumbency mood.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


Money
I bet Medina compared to before is now racking in a lot of campaign donations. The momentum all oh her side.

[ Parent ]
But what if Medina
first overtakes KBH, then defeats Perry in run-off, and then - White in general?)))

[ Parent ]
Anything is better than Perry


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

[ Parent ]
Well, it's not like
It's not like Texas government could really get much worse at this point. What are they gonna do -- execute some more innocent people? Underfund schools even more? Build power lines and polluting factories everywhere? Try to secede?

Actually...I think there would be bipartisan support (for non-TX Dems, at least) on that last one.  

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


[ Parent ]
I suspect Debra Medina has a weaker form of Chris Daggett syndrome
Unlike Daggett, I think she'll break double-digits, but at the end of the day, most righties will come home to Perry and most of the anti-Perry vote will come home to Hutchison. Medina will only get those who are both strongly anti-Perry AND strongly conservative, and I highly doubt that's a full quarter of the Texas GOP electorate.

My current prediction...

Perry - 48%
Hutchison - 36%
Medina - 16%

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But there's a run off in Texas
Daggett lost most of his support because his backers didn't want to "waste" their vote.  That will not be a factor here.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

[ Parent ]
I doubt it.
I doubt that Medina voters will eventually just go off to their second choice, considering that Medina actually as a chance to win. I don't remember one poll showing Daggot behind by even 10%

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Ill save you a trip to 2010 political calendar
The primary is March 3rd for those you who were wondering like I was.  

Wrong- primary is March 2nd
First Tuesday of March- happens to be Texas Independence Day this year. And yes, I'll bet you Medina uses that to drive out her voters.

[ Parent ]
Two questions:
1) I know the filing deadline for the primaries has passed.  Is there a later deadline to run as an independent?

2) If so is there a sore loser law?

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


Hutchison will drop out
Hutchison will drop out under pressure from state(/national?) Republicans to avoid possible Medina win in a run-off. She saves what face she can in the process.

Is this just a guess or fact?


Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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Man
you had me googling a storm for nothing. I could really see it happening, KBH is smart and knows she is not going to win. Honestly if I lived in Texas I would probably vote for her in the primary, she would be a thousand times better than Perry, from what I hear.        

Proud member of the Indiana Democratic Party from IN-9.  

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idk
Voting begins next week, so it would have to be quick. I don't think she will. Her name would still be on the ballot and would still siphon away enough votes to force a Perry/Medina runoff. Although, even with her staying the course, I think there's a good chance of a Perry/Medina runoff.

[ Parent ]
I don't think that will help him....
...and may actually hurt him.  To use a historical reference.  The 1990 Massachusetts Democratic Gubernatorial primary.

You had a really liberal Democrat (Evelyn Murphy) running against a more conservative establishment Democrat (Francis Bellotti).  Then out of nowhere a populist conservative enters (John Silber).  After being in third Silber towards the end inches up to second passing Murphy and people soon become scaredhe might pass Bellotti despite being 10 points behind.  To make sure that would never happen Evelyn Murphy drops out and endorse Bellotti.  Theoretically giving him a comfortable level of support.  Bellotti gets crushed.

Why?  Once the "liberal" (in the case of Massachusetts that year being the Lt. Governor associated with the then extremely unpopular Michael Dukakis) drops out the labels shift and people move around.  If Kay Bailey Hutchinson drops out Perry is no longer the conservative or perhaps the cough cough cough moderate, but the liberal against the more conservative Medina.  And some people who supported him as the "conservative" against the "liberal" Hutchinson might move if he becomes the "liberal" candidate.

He might find himself rather than gaining Hutchinson's vote BECOMING Hutchinson.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


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Kay Bailey Hutchison
I'm not at all a fan of Hutchison, but as Texas Republicans go, she's better than most.  Perry is a disgrace, but he still can spout his conservative rhetoric with the best.  

It's kind of ironic that Perry actually endorsed Al Gore for President in 1988.  Of course, he was a Democrat at that time.  I'm surprised that the candidates don't attack him for his prior affiliations with Democrats.  Perry acts a lot like NC's Lauch Faircloth.

If Perry wins, which I do suspect will happen, and Medina and Hutchison supporters become apathetic, I can see Perry losing in the GE.  If Medina wins, I think we will have a Governor White.  

Hutchison is toast.  Barring a major scandal of both Perry and Medina, she will lose.  Even if she makes the runoff, I don't see her having a chance.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


Al Gore in 1988
was quite different from Al Gore now (or Al Gore 2000.)  Back in 1988, Gore still had to win the votes of people from Tennessee.

26, white male, TX-24, liberal-leaning independent

[ Parent ]
You're right
He tried to win a Democratic Presidential primary that year by pretending to be a conservative, demonstrating a penchant for terrible campaign strategy that was on display to the whole World in 2000.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
PPP: Perry/Hutchison approvals down to 33/40, White down 6-7% against all three

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