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SSP Daily Digest: 1/15

by: Crisitunity

Fri Jan 15, 2010 at 2:40 PM EST


MA-Sen: With last night's Suffolk poll, there really can't be any doubt any more that the Massachusetts Senate race qualifies as a "Toss Up," so we're changing our rating to reflect that. There's still room for skepticism on whether Scott Brown can in fact pull it out, given not only the difficulty of pinning down a likely voter universe in a rapidly-fluctuating special election, but also the Democrats' structural advantages on the ground in the Bay State. (The Democrats have the advantage of labor and local machines long-skilled at rousting out voters and getting them to the polls, while it's questionable whether the Republicans have, given their long neglect of the state, any ground troops to deploy here, or even up-to-date, refined voter databases.) Nevertheless, given what can actually be quantified, right now the polls balance out to more or less a tie, and that's how we have to treat the race.

The breaking news du jour is that Barack Obama has finally agreed to head up to Massachusetts and stump for Martha Coakley on Sunday. Also, the Coakley campaign is rolling out a second ad for the weekend, to go with their ad showcasing the Vicki Kennedy endorsement; they're also running a populist-themed ad on Wall Street regulation (specifically, the rather narrow issue of the proposed bonus tax on banks). The ad deluge is being bolstered a League of Conservation Voters ad buy for $350K; on the third-party front, that's being countered by a pro-Brown ad buy for $500K from Americans for Job Security.

CA-Sen: Yesterday I was musing about whether ex-Rep. Tom Campbell's entry into the GOP Senate primary hurt Carly Fiorina or Chuck DeVore more, and we already seem to have an answer. The Campbell camp is touting an internal poll showing them with a sizable lead over both Fiorina and DeVore in the primary: Campbell is at 31, with Fiorina at 15 and DeVore at 12. The few polls of the primary so far have shown Fiorina and DeVore deadlocked in the 20s, so maybe it's safe to say that Campbell hurts them each equally.

FL-Sen: Which of these is not like the other? There's a new multi-candidate GOP fundraising PAC called the U.S. Senate Victory Committee, which benefits seven different Republicans: Kelly Ayotte, Roy Blunt, Jane Norton, Rob Portman, Rob Simmons, Pat Toomey... and Marco Rubio? Six establishment candidates, and one insurgent. Or is Rubio the new establishment?

PPP (pdf): PPP looks all the way to 2012 as part of their wide-ranging Nevada survey, and finds that John Ensign may weather his whole giving-a-patronage-job-to-the-cuckolded-husband-of-his-mistress thing, if he runs again. Ensign trails Las Vegas mayor (but probable 2010 gubernatorial candidate) only Oscar Goodman 43-41, but leads Rep. Shelly Berkley 49-40 and SoS Ross Miller 47-36. Of course, Berkley and Miller aren't that well-known yet and would presumably gain ground in an active 2012 race, but again, more food for thought on the idea that Republicans really don't get the vapors over sex scandals after all, so long as they're perpetrated by Republicans.

MN-Gov: The St. Paul Pioneer Press is out with a poll of Minnesota voters (by a pollster I've never heard of, Decision Resources Ltd.). The poll seemed most focused on the question of whether there should be public funding of the new Vikings stadium, but it did throw in (almost as an afterthought) something we haven't seen before: general election head-to-heads in the Governor's race. The numbers are pretty encouraging for the Democrats: ex-Sen. Mark Dayton leads ex-Sen. Norm Coleman 41-31, and state Rep. Marty Seifert (who, assuming Coleman doesn't get in, is the likeliest GOP nominee) 41-25. State House speaker Margaret Anderson Kelliher beats Coleman 33-31, and Pat Anderson (who dropped out of the race this week) 33-23. There weren't any numbers for Minneapolis mayor R.T. Rybak, another strong contender for the Dem nod. And yes, if you're wondering, this does take into account the potential spoiler role of Minnesota's Independence Party; IP candidates account for 11 to 13 percent of the vote in each of these trial heats. (H/t alphaaqua.)

NH-Gov: One other gubernatorial poll has good news for Democrats, and it even comes from Rasmussen. They find incumbent Gov. John Lynch in safe position with 58/38 approvals and, against his no-name opponents, leading social conservative activist Karen Testerman 53-30 and businessman Jack Kimball 51-32.

OH-Gov: Who knew that John Kasich had the power to transcend the boundaries of space and time? In an effort to court the GOP's restive base, Kasich said "I think I was in the Tea Party before there was a Tea Party."

WY-Gov: One more big-name Republican (by Wyoming's small standards) is getting into the gubernatorial race, banking on the assumption that incumbent Dem Dave Freudenthal won't jump through the legal hoops necessary to run for a third term. Auditor Rita Meyer is getting into the race, where potential GOP primary rivals include former US Attorney Matt Mead and state House speaker Colin Simpson.

AL-05: Rep. Parker Griffith is showing his true colors. The party-switcher has been turning away requests for refunds of contributions that don't meet the requirements buried in the fine print: he says he can't refund donations for the 2008 cycle, only the 2010 cycle, because the 2008 contributions were spent long ago.

AR-02: Rep. Vic Snyder is in pretty dire shape, if a new poll from SurveyUSA is to be believed: he trails Republican candidate and former US Attorney Tim Griffin by a 56-39 margin. You may want to take this poll with a grain of salt, as it was paid for by Firedoglake, who seem to have an axe to grind in the health care reform debate, and the Snyder numbers seem to be less the main point than engaging in strangely-right-wing-sounding message-testing. The good news is that, even after a variety of anti-HCR arguments have been offered (and Nate Silver does a fine job of picking apart the survey), Snyder doesn't fare much worse (at 58-35); the bad news, though, is that the 56-39 topline question was asked before any of the litany of anti-HCR talking points, suggesting that, HCR or no, we have a major problem in Arkansas.

AZ-03: Despite Jon Hulburd's surprising cash haul, he may have bigger company in the Democratic primary to replace recently-retired Republican Rep. John Shadegg. Phoenix mayor Phil Gordon is the subject of speculation; he had briefly considered a 2008 run against Shadegg before ruling it out, saying his post-mayoral future would be in the private sector, but all eyes are on what he does now. (Gordon lives slightly outside the district's boundaries.) On the GOP side, there's no clear frontrunner at all. State Rep. Sam Crump has already said he's running. Possible other candidates include state Treasurer Dean Martin (who would have to drop down from the gubernatorial bid he just launched this week), state Sens. Pamela Gorman and Jim Waring, Phoenix city councilor Peggy Neely, former ASU football star Andrew Walter, and, in a shocker, the co-founder of Taser International Inc., Tom Smith. Former state House speaker Jim Weiers has taken himself out of the running.

NC-11: Businessman Jeff Miller has reversed course and will run against Democratic Blue Dog Rep. Heath Shuler in the 11th. Miller had been recruited to run, but decided against it; he'll have to face a primary against Hendersonville mayor Greg Newman, who got in after Miller initially declined.

OH-15: The Ohio GOP is still searching for an Auditor candidate after Mary Taylor decided to run for Lt. Governor instead of re-election. Former state Sen. Steve Stivers has been asked to run for Auditor, but made clear he'll be staying in the race in the 15th (where he might actually have better odds, considering how close he came to Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy last time).

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MA-Sen
Isn't there an adage about American politics that the results of an election are pretty much locked in by the last Friday of the campaign?

It's going to be a long, long 2010.

Male, 23, DC-At Large


I don't mean to make this all Coakley, all the time
But this paragraph from the New York Times is just amazing:

A senior Democratic official on Friday described Ms. Coakley's chances as "within striking distance," and in a special election that many voters may not even know is taking place, the attention that comes with a presidential visit could increase turnout.

Whew. A Dem Senate candidate is within "striking distance." In Massachusetts! This is a proud moment.  


markhanna...HAHAHA
Laugh or cry moment?  

[ Parent ]
I'll take the latter :_(
I haven't been this depressed since Bush won.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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Told you so
I was one of the most outspoken ney sayers of Martha Coakley.  I am extremely liberal and have never voted for a republican.  However, I've seen Coakley in many interviews and in every one of them she sucks.  I was very disappointed when she won but had no idea she'd be this big of a disaster.  What a sad day for democrats.

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A note on the suffolk poll
They had teabagger candidate Joe Kennedy getting 0% of the republican vote and getting 3% of the dem vote. There will definatly be some republican voting for Joe Kennedy so this poll definatly has its flaws. Suffolk has had its blunders before. (Corzine winning by 9). They also had Christy Mihos leading Charlie Baker for MA-GOV and there is a snowballs chance in hell of Mihos winning this primary. While this does not mean that Coakley will definatly win, I do believe that Coakley can pull this out if people show up to vote on Tuesday. Call everyone you know in Massachusetts and get them out to vote on Tuesday. Massachusetts is full of tons of democrats who don't even know an election is taking place.

Let's just hope there focus on Wall Street greed leaves out the WTC
Not sure if focusing on how Coakley will raise taxes (even if it is on banks) is the right strategy going into the final few days.

Also can't see how including a picture of the World Trade Center in the attack on Scott Brown for his closeness to Wall Street is at all helpful.

(The politico story I refer to is here:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/... )

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If
If she pulls this out after the misspelling ad, the WTC ad, dis on the Socks and Catholics, it is only because of the registration advantage.

Why could she not just run a generic campaign after she won the stupid primary, instead they let this guy define himself for 2 months?

Obove all the waste of time and money on this seat is nothing but an epic disaster and an embarrassment.


Tediscoakley, anyone?
That never will get old to me.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

[ Parent ]
Ok ok
we get it, Coakley ran a terrible campaign and stupidly sleepwalked through the general. Now can we please all stop complaining about that? I'm really sick of seeing 3984792743 "OMG COAKLEY SUCKS" comments in EVERY MA-SEN thread. That horse has been not just beaten to death but drawn, quartered, brutally maimed, and tossed into a river.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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River nothing
this horse was tossed off a cliff and shot with MOABs

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Kerry Vs. Weld
I have not actually talked to anyone voting for Brown but I have seen many signs for him. I did however talk to someone who usually vote democratic but splits the ticket many times. For example, he voted for Romney, Celluci, and Weld and even voted for Weld when ran against Kerry. I feel as though this is the type of voter Brown would need to get to win, however, he and his whole family are vote for Coakley. However, does anyone have or remember any polls from when Weld ran against Kerry.

sign war
just curious but I was wondering who is winning the lawn sign war where you have seen them  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

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Don't worry too much about that
Republicans seem to be into signs in Massachusetts. Even in the 2008 election, from what I've heard.  

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Republicans are into signs everywhere
when I was volunteering for Obama in Indiana, I used to see like 5 McCain signs in the same yard (same for the Republican running against Andre Carson, blanking out on his name).

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Sorry, but I don't buy Tom Campbell's internals one bit
He barely registers in double-digits in the Gov race and suddenly scores 31% in the Senate primary? Ha!

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Where do you come up with that?
He was just a few points behind in the Gov race.  It was ''Poizner'' who barely registers.

The numbers clearly make sense.  Nobody outside of wonks has heard of DeVore or Carly.  Campbell on the other hand is a name that will register with most California voyers over 24.  

It should be very soft support though, based on the others being unknown.


[ Parent ]
Here's why Brown's been leading in the polls

I'm going to assume Masschusetts' population is the average of the national population in general, so there's a lot of female voters in the state. And while the Democrats thought they could lock down the women vote with the argument of electing the Bay State's first female United States Senator, they certainly didn't count on this factor from the Republican, Scott Brown, working against them:

 

I mean, let's face it. Sure, the first female senator, that's tempting. But what woman could look at this steaming hunk of beefcake and not say "Yes" to that? And considering that at age 50, Brown looks about the same as he did in the photo, which was taken in his 20s. There's a very strong chance that those gorgeous muscles still reside underneath that teabagger of an empty Republican suit.

No wonder why Brown's been closing in these last few days.



ewww
too much body hair for my taste haha  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

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So that's why the gay vote is not going to Brown
That explains why Brown's numbers are still hovering around 50. The gay vote is apparently counterbalancing the loss of the female vote :-P

[ Parent ]
LMAO
LMAO  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

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Another Thing
I'm surprised at how little attention this story has received; the fact that Brown once posed nude in college. That double standard in the media thing seems to be working in reverse for the Democrats this time. I mean, did conservatives KNOW about this?  

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Imagine
Just imagine if it were Coakley who had done this. THen people would have been talking about it. Damn the double standard for women politicians.  

17, Gay Male, Democrat, NJ-8  

[ Parent ]
IOKIYAAR
Had it been Coakley posing nude in college, the shit would have hit the fan.

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Huh?
It seems like at least every other story about Brown on a left-leaning blog/news outlet works naked into the headline or the first paragraph. I think it's received far more attention than it deserves. Maybe conservatives are simply among the folks who couldn't care less about magazine spreads from the 80s.

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I think they meant mainstream news sources
and honestly, how many stupid, minute, COMPLETELY pointless things did the media throw a fit about when it came to Obama's campaign? I admit they sometimes go after the Republicans for dumb things, but they have definitely hit Democrats for stupider stuff than this.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


[ Parent ]
Well, its only Cosmo
and his arm is over his dick.

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I'll be watching the vote in Provincetown ;)
n/t

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Must phonebank for Brown... Must phonebank for Brown...
My bf clearly shouldnt go out of town, I get crazy ideas.

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Makes sense with todays Republican Party...
...with it's Dick Armey led group of teabaggers with their national convention at the Gaylord Hotel in Nashville.  (You can't make this stuff up)

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MA-SEN: Seriously people do whatever you can to get out the vote
Their are tons and tons and tons of democrats who have no idea that this election is taking place. Get them out to vote and we will win. Call your friends neighbors, use facebook, twitter, e-mail, whatever it takes. We can do this!!!!!!!

rock
Seriously how could anyone in MA., not know there is an election?

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AR-02 - Snyder retiring
Press release just issued.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

January 15, 2010

Washington D.C. - U.S. Representative Vic Snyder (AR-02) issued the following statement today:

"2010 will be a robust election year during which great forces collide to set the direction for our country for another two years.  Over the last several weeks Betsy and I have had discussions with family and friends including other members of Congress (Rep. David Price, Rep. Susan Davis, and our own Sen. Mark Pryor) regarding the appropriate balance between family and Congressional service when a family has very young children.  I have concluded that these election-year forces are no match for the persuasive and powerful attraction of our three one-year old boys under the leadership of their three-year old brother, and I have decided not to run for re-election.  It is the greatest professional honor of my life to represent Arkansas in the U.S. House of Representatives, and I am so grateful to the people of Arkansas to have had this wonderful opportunity.  That honor will now pass to someone else at the conclusion of this term."

"This decision has not been an easy one.  Two weeks ago my campaign manager came on board, but that first morning I advised him to do nothing to begin the campaign because of my doubts regarding running.  The onset of the new year, the time I always begin organizing my campaigns, did nothing to remove these doubts."

"I have put very little thought into what the work side of my life will look like at the end of this term, although it is clear from observing how much our four little boys eat that I will be working for a long, long time."

- END -


where did the press release come from?
I believe it I just can't find it on the web.

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lol
Thanks for the first scoop

[ Parent ]
nm stu rothenberg has it up
nt

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When it rains it pours for team blue
Coakley's own internals have her down by 3 to Brown:
http://stevekornacki.blogspot....

2010
With People like Snyder bailing, I now believe 2010 will be much worse than 1994.

29/D/Male/NY-01

Oh Shut the Hell Up
Seriously,shut the hell up. I can't take you no more. All you do on this sit is moan and write gloom and doom about everything about the Democrats. Exactly how Tekzilla willa '10 be worse than '94 how? please explain. Are you aware that in 1994 the reason why we lost alot of seats was because of Congressman retiring that represented districts that were going to flip instantly when there gone. What do we got 5,6,7 retirements to worry about. Big deal. Your trying to tell me because of Vic Snyder retiring because he wants to take care of his young family that were going to lose 40 plus seats. Seriously give me your opinion because your famous for giving one liners and not defend your opinions. Answer my question because Ican't take your BS.

Oh and to all the people who not think Scott Brown will easily become the Junior Senator from Massachusetts, I got three words to say to you: Shame on You. Sorry for the rant but I can't take this BS from Tekzilla and the people who suddenly think Martha will lose because of a comment she made about a baseball team. Good freaking God.


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Well
I wouldn't pay the baseball comment any mind if the race weren't already close, but it really makes her look bizarre. And plus you have NO idea how seriously we take the Sox up here, it's actually kind of sad but it's part of our regional identity I guess.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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First off
I knew Coakley was a weak candidate from the moment she entered the race. He comes off as dume, he's unemotional and sounds like a milquetoast Democrat, someone I wouldn't want replaceing a liberal lion in Teddy Kennedy. Second, what I hate is you have people on here like Jim Martin for Senate going around cheerleading for Coakley and dragging a good progressive who would of mopped the floor of Scott Brown in Mike Capuano through the mud when we all knew he would be the better candidate. I still think she's pull a 51-49 percent one off but regardless she's the Creigh Deeds of 2010.

As for the Sox, even though i'm from the Pittsburgh, PA area and forced to watch the Pirates, I know how deeply Mass cares about it's beloved Sox. It's like a religion up there like how the Steelers are here. I was thrilled when the Pirates traded Jason Bay there because he finally got the chanced to play for a winning team and get treated wit respect by fans who treat the Sox like roality. I've been in NE and through Mass I do know what your talking about. Hell even went through your neck of the wood in Rhode Island (Providence).


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I wouldn't just say
The Red Sox are part of MA's identity, just part of it. When I think of Massachusetts I think of this:

-Kennedy Family
-Michael Dukakis
-Tom Brady
-New England Patriots
-Boston Red Sox
-Boston Bruins
-Boston Celtics
-John Kerry
-Barney Frank
-Boston Garden
-Bobby Orr
-Ted Williams
-The Boston Celtics Dynasty of the 1980's
-Great Universitys
-Plymouth Rock
-Mitt Romney...Sorry
-Liberalism
-Majestic Sceneary

That's not in any order


[ Parent ]
Boston Garden?
I had actually never heard of that so I just wikied it--predecessor to TD Banknorth Garden. Interesting.

Don't forget the T, having a love-hate relationship with the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority is an integral part of living in the Bay State. ;)

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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You never heard of the Garden?
It was one of the great meccas of sports entertainment before the TD Garden was complete in 1995. It was 70 something years old before they demolished it in 1997. I'm shocked you never heard of it you being from New England in all.

Yeah can't forget about the mass transit system Boaton has, pretty good to get around, espically the subway.


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I'm only 19
so I was 5 in 1995. :)

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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Well i'm going to be 24 this year and I know alot about the place.
Of course I love sports history so that's why I care so much. I didn't know you were only 19, I thought you were like in your 40's or something. My bad man.

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Lol it's okay
Aside from the obligatory Sox/Pats fandom I have very little investment in sports. Which is interesting because I get the feeling that a lot of people who are into politics are also into sports.

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
please help Japan. click "donate funds" in upper right and then "Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami." http://www.redcross.org/


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No intrest in sports
Now even the Sox, Pats or P-Bruins? Well I can't say people who are into like politics are into sports as well. I can only speak for myself and i'm a diehard sports fan, these are the teams I follow:

-Pittsburgh Penguins, NHL
-Pittsburgh Steelers, NFL
-Pittsburgh Pirates, MLB
-Johnstown Chiefs, ECHL AA Minor League Hockey
Hartford Wolf Pack and WilkesBarre/Scranton Penguins, AHL AAA Minor League Hockey
-Columbus Crew, MLS Soccer
-Celveland Cavaliers and Boston Celtics, NBA
-Altoona Curve, Eastern League AA Minor League Baseball3
-Washington Wild Things, Frontier League Independent Baseball


[ Parent ]
While 2010 may end up being a bad year...
..."worse than 1994" simply isn't possible due to the changes in redistricting where districts are a LOT more partisanly drawn and safer than they were back then.  There simply is a smaller pool of competitive districts than you had in 1994.  In addition 1994 wiped out most of the residual deep south districts where you had seats in overwelmingly Republican districts that somehow stayed Democratic for not much of a good reason besides habit.  Or in other words there are fewer oddball Bobby Brights to worry about than there were back then.

2006 and 2008 were great overwelmingly Democratic years.  No need to go on suicide watch because the pendulum may swing the other way a bit.  Especially when barring a national disaster (like 9-11) off-year elections tend to be bad for the party holding the White House.  Don't confuse bad with cataclysmic.

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Obama is going to Massuchusetts
I hope he can save things.  

CA-Sen: Boxer stuck @ 46% against all three opponents
Ugh, Andrew Gelman on 538 just called Scott Brown a Liberal Republican
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com...

even more liberal than DeDe Scozzafava....

With an image like that in MA, Brown could win.


Olympia Snowe is a "liberal" Republican
that isn't getting us anywhere.  

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liberal republican is bs
The only liberal republican was Lincoln Chafee. All other republicans are lockstep republicans. Its only democrats that feel they have to cross over from time to time. Politics is f**cked up.

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Quoted for Truth
When Chafee left there were no liberal GOPers, the rest like Snowe want to pretend their Rockefeller GOPers but there just like the DeMint's and McConnell's of the Senate. Only difference Jim DeMint dosen't pretend about who he is. Olympia Snowe on the other hand does.

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Snowe != DeMint
My God! Nope. Snowe is probably dead center or a bit left of where the center of the Republican Senatorial Caucus used to be about 30 years ago. DeMint is a true extremist. You're right that she is no liberal, but to equate her with DeMint is just silly.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Yup, when I think of Snowe's politics, I think of
Jerry Ford - and Hunter Thompson's description of him - how he'd give a poor kid the shirt off his back - but didn't understand how cuts in school lunch programs hurt the same kid.

Like Barry Goldwater, Jerry Ford was a conservative in the R party of the 70s.


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Barry Goldwater was much more conservative
than Jerry Ford. Ford was a moderate Republican, although horrible for New York; I could compare him somewhat to former Governor George Pataki - a decent environmentalist, I think, who was proud to have appointed Justice Stevens and had a moderate but not overly sympathetic position on matters of social welfare. Goldwater was highly principled, and a libertarian conservative, but he was literally synonymous with conservatism back in the day. Ironically, today's extremists would consider him unacceptable and teabag him.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Your missing the point Pan
What I was trying to make a point between the two is Jim DeMint dosen't pretend to be who he is; an extremeist. In fact he's quite proud of it. Olympia Snowe on the other hand pretends to be a "liberal republican" when in reality she's your garden variety conservative with a couple moderate positions mixed into it. That's what I was getting at.

[ Parent ]
You're right; I didn't get that that was your point
But I don't think she calls herself a liberal. I think she calls herself a moderate Republican, and considering what her party has become, that's true. It would have been a lot less true 30 years ago, but that was then and this is now.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Your right my mistake
I would never call Snowe a LIBERAL Republican, the last one of those was Lincoln Chafee and we kicked him out of the Senate four years ago. But could become the next Governor of Rhode Island which I will be very happy if he wins.

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The real point - Scott Brown is being depicted as a liberal Republican
and even though it's false, it's an image that can sell a candidate in MA.

As for Goldwater/Ford, of course Barry was more conservative than Jerry, but Goldwater's positions today, like Ford's would be "liberal" in today's Republican party.


[ Parent ]
Oh puhleeze, Snowe/Collins are no loony right-wingers
They voted TARP, they're pro-choice, pro-gay. If you said the word "homosexual" in front of Jim DeMint, he'd cut a bitch.

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[ Parent ]
That's nice
why aren't they cosponsoring a repeal of DADT? Why are they no where to be found on healthcare?

They're no loony right wingers, at least they weren't until Obama came into office.  


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Exactly
Sure there be there on issues that are non controversial per se like abortion but when push come to shove they won't buck their leadership. They did it when Bush was in office because it was okay because he was as popular as the plague and it gave them a chance to show there so called "Maverick Ways" but once Obama came into office, they quit there maverick and started to stand by McConnell because a Dem is running the WH.

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FL-GOV
The late Governor Lawton Chiles son, Bud Chiles, might be considering a run for Governor!

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.c...

He's supporting Sink, but growing frustrated.

I wonder if we could get Sink or Chiles to run for Senate though?


The problem is, so much of the FL Dem establishment has already backed Meek


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[ Parent ]
THIS IS BAD!
Taegan Goddard's Political Wire:
In a radio interview, Martha Coakley (D) claimed that Red Sox great Curt Schilling was a Yankee fan.

While Massachusetts Democrats can disagree with Schilling's political views, they have to respect him as the person who brought the Red Sox their first World Series championship in 86 years. Calling him a Yankee fan is a huge insult to an entire state.



yeah this is over, we're done


[ Parent ]
This is gonna sound like hyperbole, but...
I can't envision Martha Coakley winning next Tuesday. In fact, I feel like it might be a semi-blowout.

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Me too
oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

We'll just have to pick up the pieces and start over again.  


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Wondering
If she does win, do y'all think a big name will Primary her next time around?  

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yes absolutely
I think it depends on her performance as a Senator, but yeah, probably.  

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the real Joe Kennedy (III), n/t
At least he'll get the first crack at establishment support.

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That better be your sad attempt of sarcasm
Because if it isn't, shame on you son.

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Helping
The bottom is falling out on this race fast...I am hoping that Obama may be able to stop the bleed.  It may be over.

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I don't even think he can save this now
it's done.  

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Again, I think Obama's just being courteous
If he thought she'd have a legit shot, he'd do more than one event in a liberal stronghold.

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wtf?
n/t

21, dude, RI-01 (registered) IL-01 (college)
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WEEI is going to have a field day...
...running clips of that until the election.  And if she wins for a long time after that.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...

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wow
http://www.americanresearchgro...

I still don't think Brown will win, but just wow.

Libertarian secular Republican, MO-7


If ARG has us down I feel really good about this race


21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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